So EU5 Lets You Play AS A BUILDING and OWN COUNTRIES xD

[@LudietHistoria]

Tired of watching eu5 videos? watch eu4 video then scumbag kzbin.info/www/bejne/fH7aiJpubJalaMU

[@taikutsunaneko9125]

15.00 ludi I am %100 sure that there is a mechanic for removing people out of existence after the expeling it is not to different you just expel them to other world instead of New world. And I think horded must be this type instead of army based cause a horde is not a nation it is a clan (I dont sure how to translate but like a big family that has 600k members). The turkic history is based on horde joining each other and forming an empire and colapsing when the leading horde shows weakness. The ottomans was formed by hordes as well and one of the sultans (Mehmet II./conqueror If I remember right) splited the horde peoples all around the realm for them to not unitify and rebel.

[@Thomas-qs1ul]

I think Army based countries might actually be hordes, let's see!

[@harcoom]

Ludi please i beg you. Like goal or not u MUST continue the crusade into the steps! For Christendom!!

[@slephnirr]

When paradox starts calling it eu5 I hope every content creator will then actually stop calling it eu5 and call it project caesar. would be funny as hell. :D

[@LudietHistoria]

bro that's funny xD Will do this!

[@theblackpixell3216]

Best comment

[@Enum_Dev]

EU5? This is obviously march of the eagles 2

[@jonathandubreuil8977]

I though it was Victoria 4?

[@harrylion6689]

It's obviously going to be Stellaris 2

[@Eruntano42]

I don’t think that Prussia really fits into the idea they have for ABCs. Prussia was a feudal kingdom. It had a lord and vassals and lands and everything we expect from a settled, Euroepan monarchy. Sure, throughout its history the Prussian aristocracy came to value the military and a strong army immensely, weaving it into the country's power structures, but Frederick the Great's court wasn't a battlefield tent. When the Prussians lost to Napoleon and were occupied, they still existed. ABCs are really about hordes.

[@petrus123321123321]

Completely agree! They could potentially also be for rebels 👀👀 Hope they rework how rebels happen overall. They are just a bother in EU4...

[@zgalexy834]

@@petrus123321123321 I Completely agree with both points here. Prussia was not just an army. I also think, though, they might make ABCs a part of the mercenary system? Each mercenary band would be an ABC. Seems like another intended feature of them as they are quite literally armies.

[@colinm5545]

Johan confirmed in the comments on the TT that Prussia is a normal country

[@QuisUtDeus828]

​@@zgalexy834 correct they weren't just an army. But they were a heavily martial kingdom where being in the Army ranked you above your peers (military noble > noble, etc) it reapply did end up being an army with a country.

[@mythicdawn9574]

But it's not Prussia we are talking about. It's the Teutonic Order. I think it's to emulate the "Crusader" aspect of the Teutons. Once you found Prussia, I guess you turn into a normal settled country. But if, before that, the Teutonic Armies are crushed, then all their territories collapse into weak independent provinces. I think the ABC system fits well with the Teutonic Order.

[@keegandecker4080]

“The trail of tears isn’t a bug, it’s a feature” -Paradox interactive

[@dean_l33]

Oddly based but okay

[@zlayd5146]

i fucking love how they have made the building based countries it is so realistic i was in lubeck at the hanse museum and litterally that is what it was. merchants in offices controlling trade posts, manufactories, churches and other buildings in other countries. I am wondering how they are gonna portray the hanseatic league because realisticly cities where thrown out and rejoined on multiple occasions because of disagreements so how will they show that in the game.

[@MattFerr100]

The templars are technically still around in Portugal with the order of Christ

[@ANCalias]

yeah, actually some people think that the templar order fund Colombus

[@eVillGaming-eng]

@@ANCalias I feel like Columbus was a while ago though

[@MahsaKaerra]

I am guessing the idea that a country can own buildings outside it's de jure territory means that a Papal States player could play a game with the intention of taking direct control over every church building in Europe without outright conquering everything?

[@mctottem4636]

11:02 Imagine how op would a gang up of like 3 players playing society and 1 guy playing a settled country be together in multiplayer. I'm just saying, you could really get some cool playstyles if multiplayer is added.

[@valentinmitterbauer4196]

*if multiplayer is going to work

[@mctottem4636]

@@valentinmitterbauer4196 If it's gonna be added then it will most likely work

[@Bleilock1]

​@@mctottem4636 desync*

[@mctottem4636]

Trade companies will most likely be entities that can be invested in by the overlord or other countries while propably incrasing the profits from a colony massively. This would make sence as it would both be great for income but would also have the readonable downside of enriching your neighbors/rivals. Also I think the companies will be able to autonomously buy out your overseas buildings and use them to empower themselves and build a navy or a mercenary force.

[@mctottem4636]

This is just my opinion tho and I am not sure. I based this on my knowledge of historical companies like the Dutch East Indies or British India companies.

[@MarwanRashad]

Imagine the content after 3 years of DLCs

[@kebsonxd1720]

Imagine doing WC as Mercenary company🥶

[@Mr_Valentin.]

I need a blanket after reading your comment ❄️🥶❄️

[@budycabra6668]

Thats sounds fun

[@kaztarihtanu]

Any steppe hordes in fact were mercenary type of nation. Their armies were based on mass conscription due to every man in hordes being able to shoot an arrow, ride a horse and march/migrate long distances due to nomadic traditions.

[@dweeb24]

WC as random holy orders 🥶

[@missk1697]

Calm down there Prigozhin.

[@TheBestMCScavenger]

This isn’t eu5. This is the forgotten stellaris prequel

[@darahanrahan2864]

It’s imperator Rome 2

[@the_feedle]

4:00 Nomadic steppe societies were not just "roaming around", they were much more organized that we often imagine. They had an aristocracy, a complex administration, census and army system and their territory functionned like actual states, except that it was just a bit more decentralised. And all of this already existed way before the birth of Genghis Khan. If you're interested I can give you some sources about recent discoveries by modern historians, who crossed mongol, muslim, chinese and western sources to depict the Mongols and other nomadic peoples more accurately

[@Mr_Valentin.]

I stopped playing video games for years yet I'm excited for this, I'll be back to gaming when this comes out.

[@12354rony]

Why so? Video games are awesome and a great way to ignore responsibilities lol

[@Leivve]

Pretty sure the army based nation is more to facilitate rebels, migratory groups, or some specific instances, like a a Yuan General being a state till he conquered land or something of the like. Prussia would be a state based nation still.

[@ellidominusser1138]

Yeah that's exactly what the system is useful for

[@masamatheusagostinisennaav7526]

Bro the idea of society of pops is so cool, like imagine playing as THE cossacks. The mere existence of that mechanic would made things so much more interesting specially in borderlands, where you can try to sway these peoples to your side and integrate them. There's also so many cool options for these societies, from memory i can think the cossacks, the janissaries, the migrating jews and maybe the pirates! The thing is most of these guys would be State-less societies or parallel States within other countries, so cool and will probably make the game much more historically accurate

[@DmitriKaramazov1880]

It'll be very interesting if country types can change. Especially if holy orders can switch to crusading nations for example. Kinda like how the teutons came into existance from a hospitaller nation to a formidable crusading state

[@B_men_apo]

At this point I hope the game realises as ceasar

[@DaGoat-gd7om]

Ludi could you do a mikmaq game (east coast of Canada)

[@bigpigrigjig]

That would be fun

[@BSideWasTaken]

2:20 my money is on rebellions, civil wars and so on is what is currently redacted but I might be wrong they might mean revolutions or something

[@mythicdawn9574]

I don't see why they would hide it, it seems obvious this is the most logical option to make Rebels as ABC. instead of having your country instantly split into loyal and rebel regions, you'd get one or multiple rebel armies popping up in rebellious territories, and as long as you don't kill them even if you chase them off your territories, they will try to come back or die from bankruptcy (no money, no army, no rebellion). And it would allow other countries to actually have a real diplomacy with the rebels too. You could give them money, or a territory of yours if you want them to stick around despite their defeat. etc.

[@vitrous2]

I'm assuming the incentive for having trade companies around the world will correlate with the amount of control over the region. If I'm not mistaken, control decreases drastically the further away land is from your capital. So If a subject is a trade company they have more control, thus giving the overlord more benefits from the land they would otherwise have themselves

[@Bka321]

Warning to all who love Paradox grand strategy games. Even if you have game pass. Buy this on stream you cannot mod these versions very well and once you buy the dlc from this platform your stuck in unless your a rich guy like Ludi

[@anteep4900]

the mods for this game are gonna be absolutely emmental

[@eggwatch596]

I think they'll be very gouda

[@eggwatch596]

I think they'll be very gouda

[@wrastood4844]

2:20 they're gonna simulate crusades with this one

[@Nameless-sq6fq]

Banking countries let goooo

[@SylveonSimp]

HAVA NAGILA

[@LaVaZ000]

🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🎉🎉🎉

[@berjoxhn5142]

👃

[@mpewarren2]

Will they represent the lost natives from the Amazon in the game?

[@lincolnlog5977]

Can’t wait to pay $20 for the impending “Society of Pops” DLC

[@WhyRBX]

Hey, thanks for the to to talks video. (Copied) 0:01 for timestamp

[@Wyzer-PZ]

Hopefully the ABCs won't be too OP, but still prove a real challenge when you're playing in places like Delhi and Persia where you'll have to fend of multiple waves of ABCs. I really hope there is decent testing before release to get the in-game balance right.

[@joedh23]

After watching the Civ 7 game preview thing, I am SO MUCH MORE excited for EU5!!!! :)

[@Necromediancer]

Wonder how they'll depict the Romani as a Society of People because that seems like the most obvious example

[@mausklick1635]

I wonder if they put features like extraterritorial countries in knowing the modders are going to go wild with them.

[@ellidominusser1138]

It definitely sounds like a lot of potential, but they probably just wanted a way to illustrate the hanseatic league

[@draganescuconstantin2380]

Wait the fact that EU5 uses (more or less) the same system as CK3 landless is actually huge. A lot of people have been worrying about the state of CK3 because of lackluster DLCs in the past (I myself lost a bit of faith in PDX after the last one) and were on the fence about this upcoming feature, but the more I hear about it the more it seems like an evergreen feature that they are going to continue developing and basing future content around so yeah, I think things are looking pretty good actually

[@warlockwod]

I really hope the Anbennar devs remake the mod for EU5... So much potential!

[@frfri9874]

Hey, thanks for the tinto talks video

[@EliasPoulain]

I’m so hyped for playing peruzzi an bardi.

[@harcoom]

I’m really excited for a possible romani (gypsy) play through in both ck3 and eu5. Either as a dlc or anything. It would be sooooo coooool

[@FernandoSV]

what if I want to be an early commune?

[@PinkMawile]

I hope to see mercenary companies or Holy Order that mixes millitary society and extraterritorial societies

[@android175]

Oh man imagine just playing as a huge bank and basically owning all the countries? This game is gonna be multiple games in one.

[@emsouemsou]

Switzerland in HOI4 is a building based country. The president at game start is literally a building

[@domesday1535]

playable/releasable building countries is so intriguing, imagine just managing buildings and trade while holding various indian and asian landholders as subjects like the east india companies you could also have two players essentially playing one country in MP with one managing economy and development while the other fights wars and whatever else that falls under. You could even have teams in MP where one person links multiple player economies with each other and develops resources

[@theindeez7929]

There is same mechanic in CK2. You can as republic control trade post in locations which owed by other country. As more i watch TT about eu5, i see that they took a lot for ck2

[@JustAnotherTroll]

When that game will come out, (if it would be playable in the release version) it would take me probably few years to understand all of that😂

[@erratic1444]

2:50 Khwarazmians also tried to invade anatolia after Genghis Khan seized the persia

[@matheustroan7224]

Can't wait to play Bank Nations. This basically ultimate playing tall. Imagine being Economic Hegemon and barely have any land

[@TomfooleryOfTheTrolls]

“We live in a society” -Ludi, 2024

[@greywind243]

Outside of conspiracy related stuff, doing a Rothschild type of run with the banks would be fun. Grow to a point where you run central banks and those nations you are in almost require you to exist to keep money moving around. :o

[@ayanned]

Nice role play for the world revolves around my tent gameplay.

[@velvet6923]

i feel like as long as they are transparent that they are not optimized everyone should be able to choose who to play and who not

[@MattFerr100]

Prussia is a normal country Ludi just like every other country we have seen owning land so far on the map, the army with a nation thing is just a nickname Prussia had, I suppose ABC countries are gonna be a way to wich they are gonna divide the Golden orde like the division between Blue and white ordes.

[@velvet6923]

this game if it is even just half as good as it sounds so far, is going to be the greatest paradox game ever

[@matthewross6045]

The extra territorial countries could make for some interesting mods - Warhammer-style chaos cults or cuthulu cults, vampire clans, criminal organisations - great opportunities for fantasy reskins

[@CameronAB122]

I was thinking vampire clans for Anbennar because right now they’re an estate in some countries

[@АртуоАндраде]

Would be cool if this can for example allow me to play as a ship fleet so you can use characters like Barbarossa, Blackbeard or Sayyid Al-Hurra without being necessarily a pirate republic but rather be really a pirate fleet that eventually can create a reopublic anywhere or even not idk i guess would be nice to play as that

[@Skyguy22]

Damn, someone looks buff today.

[@Jesus-jb6ho]

The more I look into dev diaries, the more I think Victoria 3 was actually Eu4.5

[@devincook1396]

the tournaments will be much more interesting with player banking conglomerates.

[@McHobotheBobo]

9:30 Let a thousand playstyles bloom!

[@roni1451]

society sounds like a single province nation kinda like a free nation

[@shawndythomas2683]

I hope they consider late game countries functioning more like a mix of everything rather than a single type. Like the Banking countries, I can't see Early USA not loaning people while being a "normal" countries

[@ellidominusser1138]

? What do you mean? The USA is a normal country. No reason for any other type being mixed in.

[@Bleilock1]

If usa spawns Because in eu4 colonies never rebeled or had too hard time rebeling against their overlords

[@veti__]

Next county time after extraterritorial is going to be extraterrestrial

[@Zaire82]

I'm thinking they've been using Crusader Kings 3 and Victoria 3 as test subjects for EU5 mechanics. It sucks that CK3 and Vicky 3 suffer if that's the case, but at least it would guarantee that EU5 is going to be a great game.

[@Zapper1993]

To be fair, a building in London had much of India before the Crown stepped in.

[@Velesus101]

Now, I am curious if the Teutonic Order, in addition to having its own state, will also own commanderies in various HRE countries.

[@Da__goat]

I really feel like they're promising mountains here so I will be expecting absolutely nothing to not get a repeat of Vic 3, which is still broken 2 years post release.

[@thelionofnorth1053]

Honestly, i thought and liked you explained more about those banks.Hanseatic League etc

[@Baker0214]

1:35 We live in a society

[@alialtuntas8207]

I just saw a cultural difference. I am Turkish so I have obviously learnt about old Turkic nomadic confederations and our history teachers always calls these countries as "Army-Nation" so that the entire nation is the army. Therefor you can imagine that as soon as I was ABCs I have thought of steppe hordes (Fun Fact: the word "horde" is coming from Turkish word "ordu" which means army). But as soon as Ludi saw it he has thought of he thought of Prussia. That was funny to see 😂

[@McHobotheBobo]

10:30 The Mississipian culture was still going strong at this point in history. Cahokia gaming!

[@CrazyIvanTR]

How about best of both worlds in terms of playable factions? Just release a day one official mod that enables everything to be playable. Both guarantees the base game's enjoyment and should satisfy people looking for an "unmodded" experience of whatever is AI only.

[@RuneR96]

Maybe they will have the Cossacks as a society of pops

[@benjaminy4872]

Ludi looks way more buff then the last time I watched.

[@johnmanole4779]

2:14 like the Pazvante chioru who rebelled against the otoman sultan and created his own state in Vidin?

[@jamesworrell6825]

I would buy the game today just for a proto-alpha that only loads the most updated map and its view modes

[@CalDoggyDaddu]

Army based countries sound a lot like the Knights

[@hoyinching9313]

Until now, buildings are influential

[@liljeep3631]

I wonder if a pretender comes to power if you could choose to stick with your overthrown ruler as an Army Based Country that'd be awesome

[@sasabujanic]

paradox be cooking fr

[@kuba-ts2cp]

Jews simulator

[@zlayd5146]

instead of ABC even tho its nice to look at it should be "AC" pronounced "aces" because the short name for "building based countries" is "BBC" which already is a short name for muliple things and one dirty thing so that should be "BC" pronounced "bases" because a base is kind of a building and because it rhymes with aces so instead of "ABC" and "BBC" it should be "AC" "BC" pronounced aces and bases, that way the both follow the same word play thing without the BBC ruining it. thank you for coming to my TED talk

[@mythicdawn9574]

I'm ready to embrace the BBC acronym really xD

[@ssteel]

I'd rather they ditch calling them "countries" as that only makes sense for actual countries. Maybe call them states so it's ABS BBS. Maybe call them polities instead, ABP BBP

[@zlayd5146]

@@ssteel rather call them organisations then

[@MultiNacnud]

An army of pops, who leads them hopefully not Captain Mainwaring.

[@TheNoldaz]

Do we know how long a game (or simulation at this point) will be? Looks like one game will take 3 years to finish

[@hakankuran8484]

I'm almost %100 sure that this game will come out with a lot of problems. There are a lot of things that can go wrong. However, in a few years after release, this game can be the best game out there after they fix everything.

[@GreenIsTheWayForward]

A B C = Always Be Conquering

[@zondor8123]

Daimyos as building based country is interesting, owned by Oda clan etc

[@ambraxis2706]

Ludi, Project Caesar

[@FalkyRocket2222]

so its like papal states 1871-1929 or modern knights hospitaller makes sense

[@laMoria]

Hyped, hyped, hyped

[@LaLaLoaded]

I want to see things like the Anglo Saxons Nobels of Eastern Europe who left England after the Norman conquest And crimian goths

[@Goldenself]

I wonder if different ethno-religious groups like various communities of Jews and Roma could be represented as societies of pops, not just natives? That could be interesting but very complicated

[@leongashwig]

BANKING COUNTRIES!? REDSHIELDS CAMPAIGN!?

[@wolf666min7]

So what would happen if a building based nation annexed their subjects? Would they change the type of nation they are, or would they now own the land?

[@iamaim2847]

I just don't belive they can do something that complex. Comparing with how much time they needed to introduce in V3 mechanics from V2... They must cut some corners, we don't see now. It is too good to be true. At least it must lag as hell.

[@manooxi327]

Guilds series coming to EU5 😂

[@Bubs88429]

Oh boy, I always wanted to play as a Skyscrapper

[@ellidominusser1138]

Skycrapper gameplay be lit af

[@taikutsunaneko9125]

5.30 isn this just plqying evilbank manager but in an paradox grand strategy.

[@jacobschmidt8441]

I wonder if Mercenaries will be ABCs

[@gamedominatorxennongdm7956]

Ah yes, the swiss experience.

[@sammybrennan9515]

Also who is ready for a load of fun bugs,

[@velprox1]

I want to just play as a mercenary company

[@sammybrennan9515]

I'd be playing as the banking country