SO I HEARD YOU LIKED LAND DESTRUCTION... GW Land Destruction Control (MH3 Legacy MTG)

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ThrabenU

ThrabenU

Күн бұрын

I play a Magic: the Gathering Online Legacy league with a Modern Horizons 3 / MH3 fueled GW Land Destruction deck featuring White Orchid Phantom, Six, Wasteland, and more! This Maverick style decklist seeks to control your opponent's ability to play Magic. Vexing Bauble and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben prevent combo decks from pulling away with the game, while finishers like Stoneforge Mystic close the game vs fair decks.
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0:00 Deck Tech
4:30 Round 1
12:13 Round 2
24:45 Round 3
38:38 Round 4
59:39 Round 5
1:06:31 Conclusion
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Пікірлер: 100
@graemebelliveau7770
@graemebelliveau7770 4 күн бұрын
Winning turn 1 on a mull to 3 makes me want to puke
@raznaak
@raznaak 4 күн бұрын
This was just unhealthy.
@jacobkempic9022
@jacobkempic9022 4 күн бұрын
Based on that, and the fact that necropotence is banned in the format, I don't see necrodominance evading the banhammer for long
@NavaNou
@NavaNou Күн бұрын
LED echo has been around for years. They need exactly BBB and a necro, it’s the same chance. This is way more dangerous.
@Winto69420
@Winto69420 4 күн бұрын
Do I like land destruction? NO! I LOVE IT! I am land destruction biggest fan.
@doomkingraye7692
@doomkingraye7692 4 күн бұрын
if land destruction has 10k fans, I'm one of them, if land destruction has 100 fans I'm one of them, if land destruction has 2 fans, I'm one of them, if land destruction has 1 fan, I'm the one, if land destruction has no fans, start searching for my corpse, I died
@CaesarShadowKnight
@CaesarShadowKnight 4 күн бұрын
@@doomkingraye7692your headstone was destroyed as is tradition
@ericcook4171
@ericcook4171 4 күн бұрын
Bet your a hit at the edh tables.
@doomkingraye7692
@doomkingraye7692 4 күн бұрын
@@ericcook4171 imagine playing edh
@ericcook4171
@ericcook4171 4 күн бұрын
@@doomkingraye7692 play it all the time... also got a kenrith ld deck.
@3arcmaxindeps3
@3arcmaxindeps3 4 күн бұрын
Gutshot might be a hilarious sideboard tech vs necrodominance lists.
@TriforceCollector
@TriforceCollector 4 күн бұрын
Honestly that's probs why they only went down to 2 in game 2
@ashlynwoods8464
@ashlynwoods8464 4 күн бұрын
unfortunately, by the time you get the chance they have a very good chance of having a pact
@geraldmitterecker130
@geraldmitterecker130 3 күн бұрын
They either can win in response or have a pact of negation
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 2 күн бұрын
Or Sudden Shock, to get around Pact of Negation or them just paying 18 instead of 19 life. Although of course Sudden Shock is 1R, which you won't always have. Sudden Shock is hilarious but probably not actually good.
@geraldmitterecker130
@geraldmitterecker130 2 күн бұрын
That would indeed be hilarious
@BigChimpEnergy
@BigChimpEnergy 4 күн бұрын
I think the Willy Wonka "you get nothing!" rant would have also be been a good stand in for the intro lol
@RandomCommenter955
@RandomCommenter955 4 күн бұрын
that turn 1 kill off mull to 3 was brutal. turns out releasing necrodominace at home but it's actually still fucking cracked is PRETTY GOOD.
@Grushvak
@Grushvak 3 күн бұрын
This is the sort of content that keeps me interested in Legacy. Six had a surprisingly good showing, it's such a grindy card. Great league, very fun watch.
@Eisenwulf666
@Eisenwulf666 4 күн бұрын
Love the video Phil! Just wanted to congratulate Wizards for making Turn 1 wins even more viable😂 I don't mind, i love a good storm deck, but i've seen and heard a lot of people are not too happy about it
@1998flash
@1998flash 4 күн бұрын
Love this channel, you inspired me to venture into other formats coming from an only cedh player
@agemmer1
@agemmer1 4 күн бұрын
Cycling through 2 one rings with Six is just great. As long as you can discard a land you have protection from everything forever.
@Commanderkittenface
@Commanderkittenface 4 күн бұрын
nice explanation at the wrap-up
@data_abort
@data_abort 4 күн бұрын
Nolander: there can be only none
@parisnelson8764
@parisnelson8764 3 күн бұрын
12:43 ThrabenU audition for Mongolian throat singing
@joshdoughty5211
@joshdoughty5211 4 күн бұрын
Not sure how much I like Thalia alongside Vexing bauble as she makes the bauble do nothing. I’m sure it’s normally fine but I’d be worried about that nonbo
@vfreeman3188
@vfreeman3188 10 күн бұрын
Honestly one of my favorite videos, that last match for the opponent had to be painful.
@REWASDFGHJ
@REWASDFGHJ 4 күн бұрын
I think the selection of a single Lush Portico is really worthwhile here. Yes it undermines your T2 Phantom, but only if you've got no other W source in your hand on T2. The number of times you were Reclaimering or Flagstones to deckthin and hoping for a good topdeck might've turned some matches. Surveiling a permanent threat is also potential card advantage with Six
@themetamancer7402
@themetamancer7402 4 күн бұрын
As a combo player, that first match was so beautiful it made me cry tears of joy
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 2 күн бұрын
Cool deck, fun video. Thanks. I'd be tempted to add one Nantuko Monastery that you can get with Elvish Reclaimer in the midgame.
@Josh-lp7ek
@Josh-lp7ek 4 күн бұрын
My first ever T1 deck was land-D, back in 1999-2000ish. 4x stone rain, pillage, thermorcast, wasteland. Finishers were ernhman djinn & balduvian horde 😅
@dl0.0lb
@dl0.0lb 4 күн бұрын
Love seeing White Orchid Phantom seeing play - Maze and Dryad Arbor with Nadu on R2G2 though - That was some great unexpected value.
@thiccroissant
@thiccroissant 2 күн бұрын
I kept wishing you had one or two ghost quarters to take them off basics once they ran out of ones in deck. Phantom already pressures their basic count so it might be worthwhile, especially if you're replaying them off wayfarer and the likes. Eventually it's much better than wasteland
@Shadowquacker
@Shadowquacker 4 күн бұрын
I am essentially of the opinion that any reasonable combo that lets you win before your opponent’s first turn should be banned.
@matthiasbirner8489
@matthiasbirner8489 4 күн бұрын
I wonder if Loam would a suitable replacement in the Deeproot spot. It synergizes way better with Six as it enables you to play multiple things from your GY each turn, especially since both mill cards. It would also make the Mox Diamond you mentioned at the end of the video much better.
@ShiroyWolf
@ShiroyWolf 4 күн бұрын
Oh hey, it is Swordfishtrombone!
@Poolrev1234
@Poolrev1234 4 күн бұрын
Hey Phil! As always love the decks and the commentary. I think there was a strictly better line at 43:36 wether they have removal or not, which was to put reclaimer and white orchid in front of the 2/3 and then reclaimer in front of the 1/2. If they don't have removal then they basically loose on the spot (throw 2 cards so that they remove 1 reclaimer? Throw hand to have 1 frog survive combat but still loose the other and get only white orchid phantom?.) If they have push + random card, then their best line is to push the reclaimer in front of the 2/3 and let the 1/2 frog die, which kills your phantom in combat. That way they would loose push + frog and would not get to draw any card, you would loose reclaimer + phantom. Game is still live there and your outcome is better I think. Your outcome (we dont know if they had removal or not) means trading phantom + card drawn x frog, which looks like a worse outcome than what would've happened in the split push had they had the removal imo? Thanks for the content!
@Poolrev1234
@Poolrev1234 4 күн бұрын
Basically at any point they can push a reclaimer to convert their result into the other result but having drawn 1 more card and having 1 less counter on the frog that is alive, which basically is (in the worst case) a free cycle?
@andrelukadeoliveiraquarter3153
@andrelukadeoliveiraquarter3153 10 күн бұрын
Selesnya Pox? lets gooooooo
@Frontline35
@Frontline35 4 күн бұрын
Also Six looked amazing.
@kellvas
@kellvas 4 күн бұрын
It's only a matter of time before wizards prints a "Oops! All Land Destruction" list
@RokstarGene
@RokstarGene 4 күн бұрын
Ah Phil is cosplaying me as a deckbuilder today
@tylermfdurden
@tylermfdurden 4 күн бұрын
Please be good please be good please be good
@rdcrabbs
@rdcrabbs Күн бұрын
Image in 2016 someone calling Reanimator one of the "fair" decks. Ah, how times have changed!
@baddiekozicki
@baddiekozicki 3 күн бұрын
Can confirm destroying lands are very fun
@DankAudioStash24
@DankAudioStash24 4 күн бұрын
With mulligans, if I am on the draw, do I know that my opponent is going to, say, 3 cards, before I have to decide whether to keep my initial 7 and go to 6, or does it go in order for every fewer card / further mulligan ?
@sadieroms
@sadieroms 4 күн бұрын
To once again confirm, land destruction IS what the ladies like
@celestialTangle
@celestialTangle 4 күн бұрын
Surprised not to see a one-of Loam in the deck or any other utility lands... but I suppose there's no way you could fit a Saga package or something of the sort in this gameplan. Is the green-white creatureland worth a damn?
@jaredschroeder7555
@jaredschroeder7555 4 күн бұрын
Likewise surprised. I was also kinda surprised to not see a singke ghost quarter or sone basic land kill, to eventually run them out of the 1 or 2 basics they may have. Or maybe a singleton copy of depths stage to fish for as a somewhat cheap combo kill.
@andrewwang7699
@andrewwang7699 4 күн бұрын
I mean, recurring white orchid phantom with Six does what those Quarter does, right
@jaredschroeder7555
@jaredschroeder7555 4 күн бұрын
@@andrewwang7699 iirc, they don't do basic land destruction like strip mines. The point of the ghost quarter would be to get those too
@andrewwang7699
@andrewwang7699 3 күн бұрын
@@jaredschroeder7555 ah fair, makes sense
@derekcline950
@derekcline950 4 күн бұрын
I sorta wish White Orchid Phantom were Legendary (or at least 1W). Delighted Halfling seems like a significant upgrade but obviously doesn't play well with the Phantom. /edit/ I made this comment before watching the video where Phil immediately discusses this same topic hahah
@mememaster5748
@mememaster5748 10 күн бұрын
Last match was r o u g h, but very fun to watch
@ryangainey94
@ryangainey94 4 күн бұрын
Is Gut Shot maybe a good sideboard card versus Necrodominance? Assuming they go down to 1 life each time, they can pay the 19 life, and with the draw ability on the stack, pay 2 life to ding them one and they're dead. Maybe get 2+ in hand versus when they have chancellor of the annex as well.
@jaggededge11
@jaggededge11 4 күн бұрын
It's actually been discussed a bit, and I think a lot of the players have been opting to go down to 2 life post board for exactly that reason.
@quincywilliams9860
@quincywilliams9860 4 күн бұрын
You heard correctly, Phil.
@grnman86
@grnman86 4 күн бұрын
Man necro seems tough to play against when you’re on the draw. Not sure if it’s bannable at this point but might be on the radar.
@craigrgriffin
@craigrgriffin 4 күн бұрын
Down with the greedy landbasers!
@merrja
@merrja 4 күн бұрын
In Round 5, Match 2, isn't it a little dangerous to run out Thalia as well as two Vexing Baubles, given thalia tax turns on Force of Vigor and similar cards. Or is it that putting pressure on the oppo and closing the game faster is the safer choice vs oops all spells?
@MrScourge42
@MrScourge42 4 күн бұрын
10:50 Lol is he playing around Gutshot?
@JeffMendoza
@JeffMendoza 4 күн бұрын
This deck looks like it only does well with an expert like Phil behind the wheel.
@ericdaniello5659
@ericdaniello5659 4 күн бұрын
Would a ghost quarter make sense to strip mine basics after you’ve hit them with a few WOP triggers, ?since you have recursion
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 2 күн бұрын
On one hand yes, on the other hand this deck needs G and WW in the early turns and already has a bunch of lands that produce 0 or 1 colors. We've seen Phil in the games occasionally not being able to cast spells. So realistically speaking you'd have to play Ghost Quarter over a spell, not a land, if you want to be able to keep casting your own spells. And I don't know if Ghost Quarter is good enough in that context. Maybe as a sideboard card? I think if they're on the ropes and you have Elvish Reclaimer active, it might be better to just get a Nantuko Monastery and murder them (keep in mind that with Moxen and Lotus Petal, some decks will eventually get out from any amount of land destruction).
@ericdaniello5659
@ericdaniello5659 2 күн бұрын
@@lightworker2956 thanks for the reply
@Fyrefrye
@Fyrefrye 4 күн бұрын
Is Loam too slow for this deck? The ability to retrace it with Six and still keep your normal draw step seems pretty strong
@lostinflymusic
@lostinflymusic 4 күн бұрын
At 11:34, how does his opponent cast Beseech? Necro triggers at the beginning of the end step is there a 2.nd main after the Necro trigger resolves? or could he cast Beseech at instant speed? I don't get it.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 4 күн бұрын
Borne Upon a Wind was cast.
@chikinramenco3439
@chikinramenco3439 4 күн бұрын
born upon a wind gives their stuff flash, so as long as they can string instant speed mana into manamorphose to make blue for born upon a wind, they can then play their stuff before moving to the cleanup step
@MickyThunderV
@MickyThunderV 4 күн бұрын
How would that deck play in modern?
@LucksackGames
@LucksackGames 4 күн бұрын
No land no peace.
@michaelburt9888
@michaelburt9888 4 күн бұрын
Zero copies of Phelia exuberant shepherd seems odd to me
@xellsunday
@xellsunday 4 күн бұрын
can someone explain to me why the opponent needed to be able to cast everything like it had flash? it was his turn?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 4 күн бұрын
Borne upon a Wind was cast
@krysto2012
@krysto2012 4 күн бұрын
You need to use flash so that you can immediately make use of the cards drawn with Necrodominance during your end step OR to combo off during your opponent's upkeep to shut off Force of Negation.
@alexortiz9777
@alexortiz9777 4 күн бұрын
R1g3 London mulligan good
@jeremyphillips3087
@jeremyphillips3087 3 күн бұрын
Whats the lore on what kind of teacher thrab is?
@Slim3398
@Slim3398 4 күн бұрын
That round 1 was garbo
@Frontline35
@Frontline35 4 күн бұрын
Doesn't Thalia negate Vexing Bauble?
@philipptenelsen4755
@philipptenelsen4755 4 күн бұрын
yes it does, it's a nombo
@jeromelim2928
@jeromelim2928 4 күн бұрын
Beginning of the deck tech - can't really recur wasteland with six right?
@jeromelim2928
@jeromelim2928 4 күн бұрын
52:40 i stand corrected..you got a wasteland from the mill by six
@tombstone909
@tombstone909 4 күн бұрын
11:42 is this fun for anyone involved?
@Eisenwulf666
@Eisenwulf666 4 күн бұрын
i think oppo had fun, not exactly what i would call fair though
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 2 күн бұрын
Some people enjoy doing that to others. But yeah, I don't enjoy getting combo-killed before my first turn either. Ultimately though, this is competitive Legacy, so you need to rely on bans and not on players's good will to stop stupidity like this.
@angst_
@angst_ 4 күн бұрын
Turn 1 win on a mul to 3 seems... Not fun to play against...
@cantorofleng7837
@cantorofleng7837 4 күн бұрын
How do people stand playing a for at where t1 wins are increasingly the norm?
@andrewwang7699
@andrewwang7699 4 күн бұрын
a for at?
@alexmaragh7766
@alexmaragh7766 4 күн бұрын
Well those decks are pretty glass cannony and vulnerable to disruption
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 2 күн бұрын
@@andrewwang7699 "how do people stand playing a FORMAT", I assume. Yeah, the turn 1 combo kill deck is pretty stupid -- and it's not even that glass cannony because it can easily play Pact of Negation maindeck. I hope Necrodominance eats a ban.
@coryd531
@coryd531 4 күн бұрын
Winning on a Turn 1 on a mull to 3…
@ThePhantomasian
@ThePhantomasian 4 күн бұрын
turn 1 wins in legacy is just dumb
@animeexpresscon
@animeexpresscon 4 күн бұрын
Solitude likely a better option over some number of swords and path's as it can be retraced with Six.
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 2 күн бұрын
I don't agree. This is very clearly a "kill them early or lose" type or deck, hence the possibility of hardcast / recur'd Solitude isn't that good (you'll lose against an actual control deck anyway if the games go long). And in the early game, I prefer not to lose my White Orchid Phantom or Stoneforge Mystic to remove their creature (because that's what you'll often have to pitch). If this deck wasn't so early game focused,, then I'd agree.
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