So many different options: Talking Mics with SoundSpeeds | Booth Junkie

[@AudioHaze]

Love this! Such a great conversation :)

[@markwiemels]

This video is my happy place. Two of my favourite KZbinrs.

[@StefanNitzsche]

My two sound/recording KZbinrs in one video. Yay! 🎉

[@monty671]

Mike it was great having Alan on. The two of you went into some of the science of mics to allow us to better understand. Be nice to have more of this type of conversations with others also. Better understanding of the tools we use will only help to make us that much better. Thanks to both of you.

[@BillAnciaux]

Such an interesting conversation. I hope you’ll consider doing more of these.

[@mind-brainstudio927]

What he said! 👍

[@tombuck]

Awesome conversation- thanks for all the great info!

[@petertlocke]

Mike and Allen, this was done so well. The friendly conversational style worked very effectively to convey detailed information in an entertaining way. The editing was excellent to make it seem like a real conversation without cutting into each other. This is also good fun because I have been watching both of your channels for a few years now.

[@Tarukai788]

Getting that info about the vents on shotgun mics is pretty indispensable. I’ve never thoughts about that but it’s super important, and making the case for the non-universal vented mics for rejecting ambient sounds is excellent! Excellent insights and information!

[@SoundSpeeds]

Watch the first few minutes of my Rode NTG8 video and you'll see a really good breakdown of it with visuals.

[@Tarukai788]

@@SoundSpeeds definitely plan to!

[@JohnAldred]

Well, that kicked ass. And now I have another channel to go binge and geek out on, lol. Thanks guys. :)

[@BandrewScott]

What a great conversation picking Allen’s brain. Thank you very much for sharing this. And you should just recommend the U87 to everyone.

[@SoundSpeeds]

I prefer the U67

[@kevingriffin8854]

What about a wa-87?

[@WarmVoice]

Thanks for a superb video Mike and Allen. It's really educational to hear about mic choice from a non-VO angle, with all of the differing requirements that TV/Film brings.

[@MyStutteringLife]

This is GREAT !!! I've subbed both your channels. I'm still new to VO so I'm soaking up as much as I can and your videos are AWESOME !!!! Thank you again!

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

This is one of the most top-shelf, superb conversations I have ever seen/heard on youtube. I am so happy I am subscribed to both channels!

[@nukedathlonman]

Awesome to have both of you in the same video talking about this subject!!! :D

[@nukedathlonman]

Thank you, both of you!!! :D

[@BBEEKKAY]

Alan is equally as technical as he is hilarious. Awesome guest appearance!

[@Alexandra-Rex]

Somehow these two in the same video really surprised me. It's great stuff!

[@rogberube6422]

Great interview. Geat interviewee. Great interviewer. Very informative. Thanks for sharing, Mike and Allen.

[@yougettingresults]

Love both your channels.

[@DynamixWarePro]

This was very helpful, especially with the info on the grills on the shotgun microphones and mic placement and how much a difference it can make, especially hearing about the table and the persons voice bouncing of it or placing the mic higher to reduce bass in the voice. I am building a vocal booth and I'll be using using a Sennheiser MKH 416 as my voice over mic and it was very useful to know about getting the right mic placement to get the best voice recording. For outdoor background audio I use a Tascam 701D and a Sennheiser ME66 and K6P since its sensitive enough to pick up a lot of sound while having a low self noise, which really helps and I didn't know the grills around it will pick up some sound from those areas, not just mostly from the front. I shoot all my videos myself and since I recently upgraded to a Panasonic GH6 camera, I am a bit concerned the fan noise from the camera might get picked up on the audio due to the mic sensitivity, so I need to find a way of minimizing, especially in quieter situations.

[@aussernllc]

Never ceases to amaze me how clean voice can be when experienced people present. No audible breathing, no reverb, no echo. Am looking to justify spending $400 on a CAD e100, but I spent money on several other microphones. Already have a FocusRite Scarlet Solo 3rd gen, but do I spend more money on a SSL2?

[@FunnyGuyTimmy]

Such good information. Thank you both for sharing.

[@patrickclancy4434]

I love seeing both of you together! I work in a booth environment but I have a higher voice like Allen so when the both of you review a mic I can hear the both of you compare.

[@cyberdefenseddi]

Hi Mike, wowzer! Great details on mic techniques and information. Picked up some knowledge today.

[@repalmore]

Blanks, there is a LOT less powder and to my ear it is VERY different but I have a LOT of experience with live (real?) ammo. If you get a chance, fire the same fire arm, once with a blank and then right away one with a live round. You'll know the difference then. To the average person on the street that has no experience might notice the difference and may not. It isn't like night and day difference but if you know what to listen for it is quite obvious. If all you hear are blanks I guess they would all sound the same. VERY video Mike. Thank you.

[@handcoding]

This was such a treat-I could have listened you two talk for hours!

[@TheFinalRevelation2]

This was one of the most beneficial videos I've seen on this subject. Amazing insights into shotgun microphones. Thanks both of you. Answered many of my questions in one video. Particularly about the rotation of the shotgun microphone. I'm using a rode procaster. Watching these videos to make sure if sinheisser MKH 416 will work better for me. It will cost me 1600 USD here in Pakistan. But I want to have more freedom while recording long tutorials. I hate lav mics cause they don't pick up my voice properly. I don't have a very loud voice. My voice is better when I speak in a low volume and near the mic.

[@nathanksimpson]

That NTG 8 video was hilarious. Highly recommend. Also Michael Mann's heat used the actual location sound of the gunshots that gave that trailing off echoes of the gunshot sound bouncing off the buildings in downtown LA. Sounded really cool. Michael Man thought he woulud replace it but when he heard the location sound he just liked the effect and the realism it added.

[@RamirezFlores]

Great conversation. Hope there’s a part 2

[@curly_]

Good to hear an engineers perspective , good listen.

[@johnheiser2604]

Thoroughly enjoyable and informative.

[@Rod-Wheeler]

Advanced Audio class! Great!!

[@TheFinalRevelation2]

My question is why don't video game streamers still avoid shotgun mics ? Is it cause the Shure SM7b is a fashion icon ? I find no reason not to use a shotgun for long gaming sessions.

[@justheretowatch3025]

Everyone should go over to his channel Sound Speed and comment hello from the booth Junkies.

[@Sajin688]

Hey Mike hope you are doing well brother, have missed your content lately. I always love when I see something new from your channel. Because I know even when iam not in the market for any new gear I still get to learn so much from you, and I appreciate your hard work and dedication to your craft. I have learned so much from watching you as well as the other 4 guys over the last year and a half you all have given so much insight and knowledge. Again thank you sir and keep up the great work putting out quality helpful content!

[@leolembo]

This was very interesting, thanks Mike!

[@variandavid377]

This certainly has been extremely educational. Great video……learned so much that I wouldn’t necessarily thought of or factor in especially when doing VO. Wow!

[@djtommykeys]

Great talk. I was already subscribed to SoundSpeeds. Great resource.

[@allen-simpson]

This was awesome. My instinct was not to trust this guy since his name is Allen, but I guess he won me over in the end.

[@SoundSpeeds]

Just call me Sound Speeds then. A lot more trustworthy that way.

[@5ecretcode]

I feel like we have to worry about that as well if our booth is in an apartment with all sort of sounds coming every where lol also this is the best ad ever for MKH416 for VOs

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

I've recently gone through the pencil-condenser vs longtube scenario in an echo-ey room. NTG4+ rejected almost all room reflection when close to the mouth "hang ten" angled 20º from the mouth, but "quality sucked" (16db of self noise etc.). Then tried my trusty delightful AT 4021 (5x better "sound", but picked up too much room-stuff, plus plosive-problems).

[@terry-]

Great video, more like this please. Maybe other proffecionals too!

[@davidgadowvo]

Hey Mike. Quick Q: imagine you traveled back in time, say 5 years, and saw yourself before this journey…and realized what you didn’t know? Would you change anything?

[@reimsrep]

@ 1:07 of this video, the mic Allen Williams during your discussion is shown. Do you know what mic that is (brand, mode/editiom, etc)?

[@markcalaway6249]

this was very informative. table bounce....big takeaway. thanks Mike!!!!😀

[@StrongLatinas]

Question: Why did some talk shows have a mic on desk stand - when obviously everyone has wireless lavs. Is it just for looks?

[@SoundSpeeds]

At a table the table mic often sounds better but during stands up sessions, you need sound so the lav works. Sometimes they'll use a bit of both so you have a closeness (lav) and fullness (LDC). The Producers always want to make sure the host is heard and sounds best.

[@StrongLatinas]

@@SoundSpeeds Thanks so much - one less mystery for me,😀

[@PassCalle]

what are your favorite xlr mics at around 100$?

[@totallyfrozen]

Hey Mike, any new Roaring Box productions episodes coming out? Newfield was cool. We want more.

[@MyStutteringLife]

Question: You talk about "premium xlr cables" - can you elaborate on this? Once I get my demos done, I want to be ready with the best gear I can. Thank you

[@YourSoundStudios]

Until you exceed 30 or 40 ft there is very little to be gained by spending extra money on XLR cables. Most of us are running less than 6 ft and it would be difficult to detect a performance difference on a cable that short.

[@MyStutteringLife]

@@YourSoundStudios Thank you

[@davidgadowvo]

Just get mogami balanced xlr cables to the right length. If you’re lucky, you’ll get some from Alan…

[@davidgadowvo]

Also, you want to get your studio sorted before demos. Why? You want to record your demos in your own studio. Why? Because then a client gets the same sound as you present on your demo…

[@SoundSpeeds]

YourSoundStudios is wrong on this. While it's true that longer cable runs see a noticable benefit from premium cables, even on shorter runs it matters. Amazon Basics cables, for example, aren't properly grounded or shielded and if you're using a mic with a floating ground (many cheaper dynamics have floating grounds but even Neumann and Microtech Gefell mics do too so it's not just cheap ones), you'll potentially pick up ratio stations from the cable. Kevin the Basic Filmmaker was running into all kinds of interference in his audio and it was because he was using a cheap XLR cable and running it over a power cable. One of my friends was recently doing RF coordination for a big church that was having major modulation issues and after multiple scans determined the source of their issues was a new XLR cable they had installed wasn't properly grounded and causing EMI and RFI issues between components. A cheap $20 cable turned into a $2500 consultation fee. Quality matters and if you want a better quality inexpensive XLR cable look into World's Best Cables on Amazon. They are inexpensive but use Mogami cable and Neutrik connectors. I use these cables running to my Adam Audio monitors and subwoofer with no issues.

[@manutecsounds]

Hi REquest you to please compare AKG P120 and Superlux E205 microphones

[@Tewahedo]

Hi Mike, how did you Edit this remotely?

[@SoundSpeeds]

We each recorded on our end and I sent him my files so he could edit them

[@Tewahedo]

@@SoundSpeeds Thanks!

[@davesalois4035]

Great infö!

[@mnicholson2003]

This was awesome!! Thank you for this!

[@johnnymiller3684]

This is probably a question for Allen: What would be an optimal type of microphone to use as an audience microphone in a church for their live stream? The church seats 100 at most, is a tall A-frame, and has a moderate amount of echo. At the moment they're using one Deity S-mic 2, and it seems to do the trick. It's placed on a boom stand about 7 feet high in front of the congregation (+/- 15 feet behind the main speakers). That said, there is still quite a bit of bleed from the main speakers when the Deity is on. Is that normal? Or, would something like a Deity S-mic 2s work better? Or, maybe even a dynamic microphone, like an SM57?

[@SoundSpeeds]

Don't use a dynamic for a choir. Dynamics are better at rejecting out off axis sounds but don't have the reach you're looking for. You're on the right path with an S-Mic 2 but the position could be tweaked and the pattern may not be wide enough to pick up the choir evenly. Many times choir mics are low profile cardioid or super cardioid mics that can hang lower from the ceiling to get a better signal to noise ratio. Usually 4-10 feet overhead depending on the choir size and acoustics. Choir mics aren't my specialty but I'd bet that if you searched for choir overhead microphones you're probably find many that would suit you and your budget great. Keep in mind that getting closer is better as is distance from undesirable sounds like the speakers but if you get too close, the mic will be picking up people selectively and less a balance of the whole choir. Many choir mics are positioned overhead and in front of the choir with an arm to angle back and away from the congregation too which helps to get less pick up from the speakers. Again, there are many good mics for choirs and while an S-Mic 2 is working, it's probably not optimized for your use case. I'll bet you could find better options for your choir spending less money.

[@johnnymiller3684]

@@SoundSpeeds They already have condenser mics for the choir which work perfectly (Audio Technica I think). The choir is positioned in a choir loft in the back of the church. I was referring to the audience/congregation mic (ambience mic) that is placed at the front of the church so that people watching the live stream can hear the audience/congregation sing, recite back-and-forth prayers with the minister, etc.

[@SoundSpeeds]

@@johnnymiller3684 Oh, sorry. I must have misread. A wider pattern would probably be best as a shotgun would single out a smaller group. For this case I'd be tempted to hang something like a cardioid or wide cardioid high above the congregation about 1/3 of the way back and start there. You want the congregation in unison as a collective and that, I would think, would do nicely while rejecting out some ceiling reflections.

[@johnnymiller3684]

@@SoundSpeeds Thanks, Allen!

[@andrewp1513]

Thanks. Love this

[@ThinBlueLaneRVLife]

Here for more of your wisdom.

[@EmoEmu]

More of these! :D

[@raysyourvoice4148]

If the mic was a lens, what would it see? THAT is what it will hear.

[@Digital.Done.Right.]

You know Mike I watched this all and as your title says "it's complicated". Well, that's my take on Allen's final verdict. Honestly, it is why folks like you and Allen will have jobs for a while still. that's a good thing.

[@QuantumGamingUploads]

2nd comment from the UK. Thank You Mr Mike

[@KnoxAgain]

"Talking Mics" At first I was expecting you would be doing voices for each mic. haha when the mics start talking back to you, you've probably gone too deep.