Socrates, Jesus, and the Fall of Rome | Dr. John Vervaeke

[@ManWithAName425]

Such a beautiful thing you said about loving an infant from the hospital. That's so true (as a dad). You realize pretty quickly that every deposit of love you make into that infant's emotional bank account equates to that child's sense of security, courage, EQ, and curiosity. Selfless love from parents ages 0-3 in an infant is stunningly impactful. Thanks Vervaeke for letting the world know.

[@SyriusOLsh]

Ahhh I see prof Vervaeke and Prof Peterson and I click! Took Prof Vervaeke's module in University of Toronto (that's how I first heard of Prof Peterson actually: from him) and it was one of the best modules I've ever taken. No regrets taking a module that is difficult but extremely insightful. I know Prof Vervaeke was Buddhist at that period of time, didn't expect him to dive into Christianity! My path echoed his: I started with Lao Tzu's Dao De Jing, went on to Buddhism (was reading Pali canon) and then recently after a brief stint with Law of Attraction (still into it, in fact it is through LOA that I become convinced of Christianity) now arrived at Christianity.

[@BrandonGray]

There is a difference between reading the Word and eating the Word. Reading the word is propositional knowledge, however eating the Word is to become it.

[@andreverwoerd1378]

Like Jesus said:" I am the bread that gives life.....the person that eats my body and drinks my blood, stays in me and I in him" (John 6: 48 and 56). The Word has to go "Through" us. Embody us, Become.

[@andreverwoerd1378]

And another: "If you hold to my teachings, you are really my disciples, you will know , and the the truth will set you free." (John 8: 31-32) Another totally upside down explanation to how the world thinks. They first want to "know", and Jesus says first follow and implement and THEN you will know and be freed by that knowledge and know how.

[@benjaminlquinlan8702]

Eucharist is the total participation

[@alexandrestrawinski7581]

Mr. Peterson, you MUST come and make speaches, talks, conference in Paris, France. France NEEDS people like you.

[@cascarrabias397]

Charlemagne would be pissed with the French right now. He was the most HARD CORE Christian of his time... and look what the Frenchies have done to his country.

[@alexandrestrawinski7581]

@@cascarrabias397 a lot of ancient French leaders would be pissed !!!

[@cascarrabias397]

@@alexandrestrawinski7581 France was the jewel of the Catholic church. What the heck happen to the Frenchies?

[@alexandrestrawinski7581]

@@cascarrabias397 the left happened to France.

[@zkrtrt]

The french caliphate would not like that at all.

[@RocketKirchner]

“ Socrates death in Athens was the dress rehearsal for Christ death in Jeruselum “ Justin Martyer

[@Truth-Virtue-LVX]

It was probably also an inspiration for Shakespeare, and God only knows how many people have been ripping him off ever since.

[@scottbignell]

Citation?

[@RocketKirchner]

@@scottbignell found in the Didache

[@scottbignell]

@RocketKirchner No its not. And Justin didn't write the Didache either.

[@alexismcmurdie6288]

I could listen to discussions like this for hours every day.

[@envisionedlives]

Me too!! 😅

[@artmusicalley9751]

Enroll in Peterson Academy. Dr. Vervaeke teaches an amazing course there.

[@artmusicalley9751]

Enroll in Peterson Academy! Dr. Vervaeke teaches an amazing course there.

[@atlasfeynman1039]

I basically do listen to discussions like this every day between Petersons podcast, Vervaeke's, Pageau, Sam Harris and PragerU. I am considering that Peterson Academy, but not sure how much it is and if they do accredited Master's degrees?

[@artmusicalley9751]

@@atlasfeynman1039 for what you get ... it's pennies. Look into it ! They are working on accreditation

[@Μαρίαπ-μ8β]

As a Greek,the existence of Socrates,Plato and the Stoics is exactly what prepared and guided us to Orthodox Christianity..

[@drooskie9525]

I think this is more what people need too. No one really cares about Christianity from the perspective of a hebrew desert cult several thousand years ago. That's too alien and distant. How does Christ culminate in or fulfill and shed light on whatever gaps or errors a pagan's religion may have. What does Christ offer that you don't already have.

[@Μαρίαπ-μ8β]

@@thedeviousgreek1540 If there wasn't for the Byzantine monks who copied and saved the scrolls of almost all greek philosophers,no western university,after the sack of Constantinople, couldn't be able to find and read anything about greek philosophy..Go to amy monastery in Greece/especially in Agio Oros,and you will see them by yourself.. Don't call all Christian people and christian teachings as haters of logic,as all byzantine scholars teached greek philosophy in their curriculum.. That's why they made so many copies..they knew this philosophy better then you..we are a continuity and don't try to brake that please..we have a rich history and every change we made was needed by our people first..

[@dickjohnson6999]

Amen 🙏 Respect, I hope to travel to Athens one day. Cheers from Texas

[@thecrow4597]

@thedeviousgreek1540 So you’re one of these guys that uses the Greek philosophers as a way to justify secularism. Every deep philosophical idea that had any truth in it from the Greeks was expounded upon and completed by church fathers. Platonic forms being an example. This idea that people can be free thinking As independent agents and that rationality and logic are axioms in and of themselves and not tools within a paradigm is nonsense. Your view in Greek philosophy through the lens of a post enlightenment person. And the enlightenment was nonsense for the reasons I pointed out. There’s no such Axiom of objective logic or rationality or freethinking. All three of those things can only exist intra-paradigmatically. One man’s logic and reason is another man’s total irrationality depending on the game being played. And nobody is freethinking because all persons are being acted upon by outside agencies. This is why the only freedom is within God’s will because your idea of personal freedom lands you ensnared by agencies that are hard to detect

[@Μαρίαπ-μ8β]

@nuqwestr We have already many sources of documentation of the life of Christ by Roman documents, Jewish, Aramean and Syrian historians,aside from 12 disciples of Christ.Excuse me,but I believe those.All the essence of Christianity,the deeper meaning is there.The view of life itself is there Where Christ travelled, even if he did,i much less important then the things He did and say..

[@suzyanderson7395]

Thanks! Time never wasted when I tune in to Jordan Peterson.

[@wrayjordan7188]

Fascinating conversation. Don’t know if I’ll live long enough to get my head around this. Thanks Gentlemen. Respect ❤

[@anthonygarenani4308]

6:28 “we’re not just creating meaning, we’re creating the beings that participate in meaning” ❤️ absolutely beautiful

[@twanderson7756]

Rather meaningless.

[@allenhughes12]

​@@twanderson7756 just like you.

[@twanderson7756]

@@allenhughes12 Cheap personal jibe, zero debating value

[@McVet3]

Love this. I survived 18 years of hell but I was raised as a Catholic Christian always had faith still do. Many things happened I took responsibility of soul and really gave it to God. I use to feel this constant feeling near my chest, gone. Thank you God and you as well Dr Peterson 27 months🫡💪🙏🇺🇸

[@mysticlegion8088]

What really conquered Rome? We are watching in real time now.

[@cowboybeboop9420]

Please, don`t compare yourself to the Romans. The Roman empire lasted for over 2,000 years up until 1453 even though you Westerners like to ignore that. Rome was an elephant that died of a 1001 mosquito bites. You guys bought 70% of your empire for pennies from France and Russia etc and you won all your major wars by basically joining at the last moment when the fighting was already done and finishing off one of the exhausted sides. You also lack all of the stuff that made Rome great such as nationalism, Orthodox Christianity, collectivism, etc.

[@Ipleadthebloodofjesus]

😢​@cowboybeboop9420 everything is accelerated due to technology.

[@mathewjohnson3614]

@@cowboybeboop9420 I notice you keep saying "you guys".

[@donaldlococo954]

@@cowboybeboop9420 Mentioning Orthodox Christianity and collectivism in the same statement is odd. What could be more fractious than that soup of sees?

[@solinvictus2045]

​@@cowboybeboop9420where are you from ?

[@je_ye_ma6230]

"Questioning improves, but it also destroys"

[@atlasfeynman1039]

Separates the wheat from the chaff.

[@GibsonSG2001]

For improvement there must always be destruction

[@artmusicalley9751]

A great deal of respect for Dr Vervaeke through his teaching at Peterson Academy. Thank you sirs for bringing us, and challenging us, with higher reach

[@michelbelanger2845]

DR Peterson had many many interesting conversation but this one beats them all. Thanks for sharing this.

[@chayse247]

Thanks for all the great life lessons and education Dr. Peterson ❤

[@FortYeah]

By now, Peterson should be enough independent of fortune to concentrate exclusively on interesting and philosophical topics like this one and stay away from the political noise. He would do himself a great favour. To us too. Vervaeke is truly amazing.

[@RippleDrop.]

Peterson just endorse an aspiring dictator pathological liar who promises US citizens never have to vote again. Anything he says scewed, as his highest moral guide line was to fight authoritarians and always tell thw truth is most important, or at least not lie. Peterson is a disingenuous mess whose thought process is dangerously deranged nowadays.

[@ErictheAmateur]

I love listening to these higher cognition conversations. I’ll admit, I spent half of the time trying to figure out what you just said, lol. However, I feel better about myself when I finally understand the beautifully brilliant thing you just said. Thank you Dr. Peterson for the glimpse into the enlightened.

[@rlrogues3268]

Gave me chills. I weng from being a high-functioning weak Christian child, to a barely-functioning strongly atheistic young adult. Socrates and the neoplatonists were key in bridging the divide for an intelligent, broken boy to develop into a high-functioning devoted Christian man. I recommend Manly P. Hall's lecture on 'The Neoplotonic Key to the Grand Cycle of Myths'.

[@colt3529]

Every Freshman in Highschool should be Introduced to Socrates but the public school system will never do that because they dont want you to know how to actually think! I didnt learn how to think until my Intro to Philosophy class at community college!

[@TheGringoSalado]

You wouldn’t resort to consumption and ego comparative levels of happiness. This would be bad for GDP of course….

[@Furrrburger]

Wonderful to listen to. I really need to start reading the acients, you guys dropped so many names I've never even heard of.

[@echopeakbicycling85]

Many of their works are in the public domain. Librivox, I believe, has free audio recordings for you to download and listen to.

[@silvy2026]

I understand exactly what he is talking about, and also I can relate. Since my 4 year of life I started reading and never stopped. I have read a lot, I was interested in all teachings and ways of spiritually development and in the end I end up like creationist strongly choosing Orthodox Christianity, the faith I'm actually born with...❤

[@Liveforfaithandlove]

Dr Peterson. You are my philosophy. You are my Socrates 😊

[@archity1242]

Wow what an eccentric wise man! I can see why he has been one of JBP's few friends for such a long time. I have to go listen to the full conversation now. Ive always been more interested in the psychoanalytical and scientific psychology side of the humanities, but this makes me want to go learn everything I can about wisdom and philosophy.

[@redirishmanxlt]

"Eccentric wise man" - Thats a perfect description of John Vervaeke! 😄

[@claudiajimenalemaitrebarra6920]

Una increíble conversación. Muchas gracias por todo lo que entregas Jordan. Saludos desde Chile 🇨🇱

[@lloydritchey]

This man's journey sounds a LOT like the one I went through in the early 90's, but it's taken me 30 years to stifle my intellectual pride sufficiently to accept the propositions of the Christian doctrine. Eternity would be a poorer place without the likes of Aristotle & Socrates who gave me the essential tools to eventually understand The message. First, subdue your ego, then all things are possible, for you can't learn what you think you already know.

[@nvp1137]

yes the heart at some point has to submit to the truth , the head will only get you so far. I pray that they get there!

[@gavinlagrange6322]

Such a wonderful conversation. I got goosebumps several times.

[@josephwald1991]

Fun conversation to listen in on. Is one kind of love really the best? Children might choose Philia, young adults Eros, and older folks (parents) Agape (reminding us, btw, of Plato's comments in the Laws about the type of choral performance people of different ages prefer). An evolutionary psychologist might point out that each corresponds to a different stage or aspect of human existence, and our species depends equally on all three.

[@Icnivad76]

Such an insightful talk. Thanks for it.

[@nvp1137]

beautiful dialogue between you 2 gentleman. sometimes people come to some understanding of Christ first with all the head knowledge, however there comes a time that the heart has to submit to truth or not. Ego and Pride limits our heart to fully get there. Reminds me of Matthew 19: 16-26. Agape Love can only fully be reached in communion with Christ, submitting to His love and not our own.

[@sheldonberg125]

This is an excellent conversation and a very necessary discussion for everyone.

[@segomocoscheppers6129]

Nothing beats a passionate Professor🙏

[@monastic_life]

philosophy and theology, especially in the context of Socratic ideas, emphasize the importance of self-discovery and inner transformation. I concur that merely accepting propositions is insufficient for a deep understanding and embodiment of true love and meaning. Real wisdom comes through personal experience and growth, not just through intellectual beliefs.

[@ACFIXR]

"We frequently speak of God's holiness, righteousness, mercy, love, and other virtues. Man's mind is capable of conceiving these attributes of God, yet such mental knowledge is like looking through a stone wall. When however a believer has received revelation from God concerning His holiness, he sees himself corrupted to the core and void of any cleanliness before the light of God's dwelling in unapproachable light where no sinful, natural man can draw nigh. Oh, that many among us might be given such an experience as that." Nee, Watchman The Spiritual Man

[@09bamasky]

As a psychoanalyst and philosopher, I find these two fellow travelers always interesting. I hope they are eventually transformed by God’s grace and come into the one, truly, holy Catholic Church!

[@ConradoHdz38328]

What? Are you saved???

[@nvp1137]

I pray that they do too! They are on journey like the two on road to Emmaus.... ultimately to Holy Communion.

[@nvp1137]

@@ConradoHdz38328 yes one is Saved through Baptism...

[@ConradoHdz38328]

@nvp1137 No! It just by faith. Did the thief on the cross git baptize? No! He had faith. He believed that Jesus Christ was his savior.

[@nvp1137]

@@ConradoHdz38328 Yes ..Baptism does indeed Save us as we become marked or become sons and daughters of the Father. Jesus did indeed "baptize" the thief, as the thief willingly wanted Christ's salvation. Once we are marked we always belong to him, however we have free will to walk away from him at any time, even those to to proclaim to be saved, the next day they can walk away. Now then we indeed have to do our part and continue our faith...... Without baptism we have no way in....I am curious as to what you think Jesus meant by saying ::" go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Our salvation STARTS at baptism.......

[@louisnault7333]

This is excellent. Much better than the last Vervaeke Peterson conversation

[@hamedmoradi5291]

Agape is a person-making process; it turns potential persons into actual persons.

[@georgekiriak7027]

Are you sure?

[@asunhug]

The ending...😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨 John snapped

[@gergelybakos2159]

Great, thanks!

[@brianlebreton7011]

Great discussion! Deep topics.

[@jasonwagner5571]

I understand the Christian analogy. To live a Christlike existence doesn’t make one a Christian. It’s part of what a Christian should strive to do, but there needs to be a personal relationship between Christ and the individual to be a Christian.

[@swesleyc7]

Yes. All that AND outwardly affirming Christ's accomplishment and who He is as the Son of God.

[@Edenifyable]

Amen!

[@Jeff_To]

A "relationship with Christ" is just a relationship with the Logos. It's the same thing. This means "what it means to be Christian" only means affirming a set of propositions, making it redundant

[@MuyiwaMonehin]

Christ would say to both John and Jordan, "you're not far from the kingdom."

[@MuyiwaMonehin]

​@@Jeff_To Yeah, but slightly different. John, one of the Gospel writers, would say, "the Logos took on flesh and lived among us" ... and displayed Agape, ultimately in his Cross. Vervaeke says, 'you have to go through fundamental transformation to perceive some truths.' I'd add that you have to go through some experiences to perceive some truths. Hopefully, Vervaeke would have those experiences that help him to perceive that 'the Logos actually took on flesh and lived among us.'

[@TheCommonGardenTater1]

Tremendous knowledge from these two wise Sages. Thank you. Be BLESSED All here :)

[@killeenmeister]

"What kinds of questions are you asking? Those that seek the truth? Or, those that seek to destroy the truth? " These three questions were once asked of me. In confession. And, I shall never forget them.

[@diegoarmandoquembagarcia1312]

I am going to follow you.

[@Khalrua]

What really conquered Rome was a combination of internal decay and external pressures. Corruption, economic instability, and the erosion of civic duty weakened the empire, while waves of invasions from various tribes hastened its downfall.

[@Ipleadthebloodofjesus]

Exactly as the usa today

[@echopeakbicycling85]

It was then as we are now. Doomed to repeat history, I fear.

[@MichaelPatrick447]

They are answering the question, how did Christianity conquer pagan Rome? Not how did Rome collapse

[@GeeAmo907]

@@echopeakbicycling85Rome has a lot in common with the US today but they're not exactly the same. Rome still got its wealth through the land and through conquest. They didn't have the economic system to generate wealth the way we do. The moment Rome became too big and it didn't make sense to conquer more land, a lot of the wealth that propped up the empire stopped coming in. That along with everything you mentioned and I'm sure countless more reasons are why Rome fell. PS- the similarities between Rome and America today do still terrify me.

[@not2tees]

Ask not what Rome can do for you; ask what you can do for Rome. Nobody took that too seriously.

[@KapteinFruit]

I studied all of this so it makes me very haappy to listen too.

[@thehumancondition111]

Wow thank you for expressing the errors of evangelism so well. Kudos and may God bless us and unite us in his agape ❤❤❤

[@torolavmelhus1092]

Thanks for completing the meal of your talks with a classical dessert :D

[@francpez7564]

Reason before faith!

[@BillyD4186]

Two beautiful minds. Much love

[@josifmaracine5526]

GO THROUGH THE FIRE ! Don’t just talk about THE FIRE.

[@Mallory1382]

Thanks Jordan!

[@joechambers7816]

This is on target in my opinion. Love

[@geekvinos]

'truths that reveal themselves to you, after having gone through a fundamental transformation...' Vs. 'aspiring to a propositional truth.'

[@ACFIXR]

circumcision is of the heart by the Spirit and not by the letter. Romans 2:29

[@kimberlykay130]

My mom had the same experience in reading socrates & Plato & all those ancient Greeks

[@mankisito]

Don't forget that sadly enough Socrates did not write down his philosofies. What we "know" about Socrates is largely told to us by Plato, whose values are often inconsistent with many of Socrates' actions.

[@qypokrat]

I heard Peterson and I like how you speak.

[@harveyyoung3423]

What a great trailer. and i just brought Tarskie's redundancy theory of truth.

[@MarkoJuhaniMussalo]

Thank you.

[@Yiger]

That maybe the most linguistically complex video I have listened to this year hehe :] TY is there a transcript?

[@michaelhyland956]

Loved this thank you sir in the plural

[@TristanEspinoza-o9w]

The Cartesian project is there to establish the structure of critical thinking. To enter this structure, one must first question a previous structure to make way for a new framework of thought, and this process is transformative. It grants the possibility and flexibility to recognize new forms of thought and compare them with fundamental knowledge of the self. This is where reason plays a vital role, as reason provides the capacity to question everything until reaching a foundation that is beyond any epistemological structure, dogma, or bias from any experience…

[@brendenkoontz4614]

Talked about this video in intervals of pausing and playing for almost two hours with my wife. Not even religious but my apex of emergence may turn out otherwise lol.

[@thanksfernuthin]

Extremely eye opening. I've never heard of that thought process coming to bear in the Roman Empire. Fascinating. I gotta say, though. Didn't Socrates not only write his side of the arguments but also the losing side? I win every argument I write down or have in my head too. I don't think that would have floored me as a young college student.

[@ssantiago5555]

Vervaeke is awesome

[@richardcarlucci83]

If I might add, and blow your mind, Agape love goes beyond sacrificial love and what it is, at its core is...ready for this the love that is reflected between the FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST !

[@nvp1137]

YES exactly! and to think that we are worthy to share in that love is almost too much handle! Jesus is Lord!

[@zayinseven7923]

Your child already feels like apart of you (and is already a part of you literally) thats why you love them so.

[@oneshotprestige]

Christianity boomed in Rome during the Antoine plague, which killed nearly a quarter of the Romans. When the plague hit Rome, most of the population fled in an effort to distance themselves from the disease in self-preservation. Christians stepped out in faith to care for those in distress, staying and even coming back to help.

[@bluequirk5384]

Beautiful

[@IoriHaraguchi]

awesome!!

[@LeslieSusanas]

full support

[@RagnarB175]

The Republic is an amazing handbook on how to deal with the self, what it means to be good, and why be good anyways.

[@BrandonGray]

Mr. Peterson you can see. There is a difference between the object and its term. Knowing the term is not the same as being the object. Confessing the tenants of Christianity is not the same as being a Christian. To be a Christian, is to be the object, Christ.

[@onliwankannoli]

Deep deep conversation! Then at the end I said to myself: those chairs don’t look very comfortable. 😜

[@DrewIsOriginal]

my boi Vervaeke with the Jordan's on!! lol

[@noclubclub8975]

Beautiful just beautiful

[@RichardDanielli]

These are two men I'd invite over for dinner and just sit and listen.

[@lurkwave]

I love that business casual now has come full circle to Jordan's and sneakers being ok😂

[@ChristopherDwiggins]

I was attracted to Socrates because his last speech. It was too fitting, if you move past your own narratives of my guilt. Even if i was lets say I'm not about just getting drugged out my mind. Think if i really was being drugged against my will out of my mind, getting me to do any potential horrors. If you look at my situation in my narrative, you would see his speech fits perfectly. That's really all ik of Socrates. I listened to it a few months before my imprisonment. I haven't studied philosophy or psychology really. Ik most of everything ik by having dealt with it at some point. Or elementary and middle school. Wild life my pacha.

[@navicedar2660]

Love: self, wife, family, society, world/creation. In that order. Face your daemons in all those hierarchies. Agape is something else. if you can not live life of vicissitudes, -ve and +ve i.e. opposites thorough physicality( vitality), emotion, thought and that other love called AGAPE that is beyond reason then you still have something to work out in yourself.

[@kyledammann4284]

Quite the discourse.

[@et4213]

Faith without works...proof in the pudding! Love is action and so is belief, true belief

[@obaydaak6726]

Dr Peterson please read Berserk Manga and talk about it. That'd be extremely interesting!

[@trippyvortex]

PLEASE do a reaction video to the presidential debate Jordan!

[@AFringedGentianToEnnien]

For that you want his latest interview with Pierce Morgan. They covered it.

[@dougdean8996]

Need Cole’s notes to better understand this deep conversation

[@Jesusfreak-m3x]

Agape, or Hesed in Hebrew, is the unconditional unending love available only from God and for persons by the power of the Holy Spirit. Parental love is not unconditional and unending itis breakable. None of this is the product of human reason only as a free gift of God.

[@kieferonline]

For me it was reading Plotinus which turned me back towards God, religion, and Christianity.

[@myopinion5096]

THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST WOKE CONVERSATIONS I'VE EVER HEARD ONLINE thank you thank you thank you for explaining the human psyche and the human experience. We are THE GODS.

[@SoftwareEngineer-Goggins-cq8my]

Jordan Peterson, science needs to make the discovery of immortality urgently and rejuvenate this man. Make him physically immortal. Please stay alive like Methuselah!

[@jdc4483]

Re: John speaks to living a good and moral life. The Bible is very specific that you can’t be good enough to get into heaven. Jesus is the way. When morals and ethics are self defined, human nature takes a negative turn m. We need the love and example of Christ. Otherwise, we make ourselves our own God with our own rules and morals and ethics.

[@ACFIXR]

"We frequently speak of God's holiness, righteousness, mercy, love, and other virtues. Man's mind is capable of conceiving these attributes of God, yet such mental knowledge is like looking through a stone wall. When however a believer has received revelation from God concerning His holiness, he sees himself corrupted to the core and void of any cleanliness before the light of God's dwelling in unapproachable light where no sinful, natural man can draw nigh. Oh, that many among us might be given such an experience as that." Nee, Watchman The Spiritual Man

[@Bronxguyanese]

Some say Aristotle is the first Christian.

[@RocketKirchner]

The first Christian was the thief on the cross who asked Jesus to remember him When you come into your kingdom

[@abovemotivationx]

The History tells us that we should LEARN the lesson from the Past...

[@jacquedegatineau9037]

"Belief as embodiment and transformation" is important... but you will never embody the right thing the right way until you first start with true propositions like (a) I am a sinner in need of grace and (b) Christ is King.

[@RocketKirchner]

And that only comes by divine revelation .

[@ACFIXR]

never say never...................

[@chrisgmurray3622]

Sir Kenneth Clarke said it was decadence and internal rot that toppled empires, not raiders from the outside. The same could be said about health!!

[@manuelandrade5656]

Based😎

[@jamespercy8506]

higher order meaning is grounded in enabling constraints, so is wonder. Enabling constraints are affording.

[@diegoarmandoquembagarcia1312]

The Best

[@richardcarlucci83]

Everything that comes out of God’s creative hands contains continuous preservation and creation. If God’s creating and preserving act withdrew from the heavens, from the sun and from all the rest of Creation, all would lose life, because, since Creation is ‘the nothing’, they need the work of ‘the All’ in order to be preserved. This is why God’s works are inseparable from Him; and what is not subject to separating, is loved always, is kept always under one’s eyes, and the work and the One who created it form one single thing.

[@timbo365]

Wow!

[@christopherwood9032]

Look up Pierre Grimes to get a deeper understanding of the overlap with socrates and Christ. He studied under Alan Watts and has a much more comprehensive analysis on this topic

[@julianlewin188]

Wow. I did tie chi chuan. Standing on stake. It gives the appearance of precognition, but really, it's a practice of self-awareness, having the ability to articulate more information that is coming into your subconscious through your being.