Demoknight TF2 is a 𝘣𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘺 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘳

People often say that Spy is the buggiest class in TF2. That might be true. Demoknight is still wack, though.
This video is way overdue, but hey, it's done. It could have been even longer, but I'm saving the charge-turn bugs (at least, those that still exist) for a video about Ali Baba's Wee Booties.
Yes, I'm still trying to make a trimping tutorial thing! But I don't want it to be just that, I'm also planning on talking about why I love trimping so much, but unfortunately this means that the video is way too ambitious, I keep re-writing the script and it constantly crashes Sony Vegas. This video also had that problem, actually. Bah. Eventually...
Jane's melee weapon analysis: • Melee hit detection
Some of the voice clips in the video were made using: 15.ai/
Credit goes to 3kliksphilip for the "sorse" clip, and AsumSaus for the Melee extender clip.
Reddit post by Ghostown56: / why_is_this_a_thing
Special thanks to my Discord mods for being my guinea pigs for some parts of the video. Also thanks once again to DefaultUsername for helping me with the previous bugs and glitches video. That person is the whole reason why this video also exists.
Music: pastebin.com/32n7n5FR
Discord: / discord
Twitter: / tf2solarlight
Twitch: / solarlighttf2

[@SolarLight]

Oh, thanks for 100k by the way. I kind of rocketed past that milestone since the last actual video I uploaded on Halloween.

[@__Cal_]

Ur welcome.

[@ascii0n278]

Ok

[@ascii0n278]

I want to see a gameplay of you as soldier with a half zatoichi and name it Soldier-rai (Samurai but it was replaced by soldier)

[@demonboy04]

Honestly you deserve being at 100k+, hope your new year went great!

[@lush.hayden]

Wait you only have 100k wtf?

[@Toofty]

Hold all the buttons down all the time just in case, got it

[@jasongoingcrazy]

yO , ToOf

[@Gnome_Tank]

Just flip your keyboard every time you charge, I dont know what will happen but I imagine something good

[@tugazu]

Yep

[@killianjudemisagal9754]

my man is not verfied

[@cupofspiders5830]

yeah that sounds about right

[@kirbstarkingofsucc]

petition to make this outro his standard outro

[@colourblindchalk]

*yES*

[@enzoferrari6388]

What's the song name?

[@pr0gurt]

@@enzoferrari6388 mof - 64nick

[@tysongaming4204]

Yes

[@enzoferrari6388]

@@pr0gurt didn't find anything

[@Berd]

3 bottles is not enough

[@infinityoreos7717]

We need more

[@0m3GAARS3NAL]

Oh. It's berd.

[@tabnk2]

How about 256?

[@thedeez5436]

@@tabnk2 yessir

[@atray6579]

Ooooh, scrumpy.

[@Slye_Fox]

Speaking of transferring between weapons: The Eyelander & Airstike use the same code to track kills, and even share the stealing mechanic. So if an Eyelander Demo kills an Airstike Soldier who has some kills, he'll steal them as heads.

[@BlazingShadowSword]

Same as the bazaar bargain. The amount of heads the sniper has can be stolen by the eyelander. Now I don't quite remember, but I'm pretty sure the airstrike can steal heads from both the eylander and bargain, but the bargain can't steal from the others.

[@theultimatetrashman887]

I guess this is what happens when you share code amongst things...

[@gregorymirabella1423]

@@BlazingShadowSword you're correct.

[@gregorymirabella1423]

@@theultimatetrashman887 it's intentional.

[@BlazingShadowSword]

@@gregorymirabella1423 Funnily enough, I've learned since then that the Vita-saw organs can be stolen and can steal from all the others as well. The Bazaar Bargain is the only weapon that can't steal from anything.

[@gartinmarrix4841]

Ah yes, woolen style commentary where the character model has a seizure every time you say something

[@kerbonaut2059]

woooly boy

[@damired]

The best way of storytelling in the history

[@tototootootwotwo]

woolen :-)

[@Slender_Man_186]

I refer to it as the RvB style. Red vs Blue was a Halo Machinama where whenever the characters talk, their heads would nod up and down. This is just a more extreme version of that.

[@Delic0]

That styles been around in game videos since forever

[@nix3l_]

That triple bottle is so cursed

[@purpledinosaur5118]

💩

[@RayanfhoulaBR]

Family size scrumpy

[@susanncannon4741]

@@RayanfhoulaBR "4 seconds ago"

[@RayanfhoulaBR]

@@susanncannon4741 "3 minutes ago"

[@AG45.]

@@RayanfhoulaBR "53 minutes ago"

[@evieinfinite]

the character bobbing its head all over the place reminds me of the way they do it in Red VS Blue show

[@aleks4431]

"I don't know how to end this video, so..." *Ends it with utmost perfection* Mann wtf

[@lorenzoazrielprugalidad5557]

MANN CO.

[@thefunny6015]

*mann wtf*

[@ItsMeSkyPie]

"Why sword when have bottle" -LazyPurple

[@Sci_X1]

When can have bottle Don’t deface quotes

[@Kilo_Maybe]

Why have sword when can have bottle

[@3junqn1913]

"Why have sword when have Sharp glass"

[@scouttf2708]

Lol

[@LaboLad]

Why use sword when can have sharp glass?

[@DEWILL]

Source spagettiknight TF2 Btw, wonder why shield bash sometimes doesn’t register. Might be a good breakdown video theme. Good vid though!

[@eva2602]

im pretty sure that might just be pinge

[@facelesspootis2415]

woah i didnt expect to see you here

[@cor_ins]

Well, I did since they both know each other. (You'd know from discord servers.)

[@HappyToast-st8el]

And when it does register, you’d sometimes wonder how it even hits at such a ridiculous angle

[@randomcatdude]

@@HappyToast-st8el pretty sure shield bashes are determined by the two players' collision hulls touching, and not with any unique hitbox specific to the shield. physical interactions with players in MP Source games are quite janky and jittery in general, TF2 being no exception(most noticeable when playing Spy), so this could explain the shield bash being jank too. just my guess.

[@justanothersandwich9307]

The idea of the demoman talking like a brit while having a seizure sounds very cursed to me somehow

[@deez5120]

Demo is a brit tho

[@bread5795]

@@deez5120 thought he was scottish?

[@jakey9065]

​@@bread5795 Scottish people are still brits as they reside in the united kingdom.

[@bread5795]

@@jakey9065 but the accents are different

[@bread5795]

just to be clear i know they are separate nationalities or whatever but we’re talking about accents rn

[@Mordecai02]

Theoretically, the "extender" might sync quite well with the Splendid Screen. Extended range hit at the start, land the bash, then get the damage-boosted swing.

[@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436]

at minimum, that is 345. With 5 heads, it is 388

[@josukedrinkingcoffee7346]

@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 Holy moly.

[@jackmio]

funny thing is, you could actually theoretically one shot a fully overhealed heavy as demoknight. however, it requires a long setup and is very situational

[@jackmio]

if you're curious, a crit caber + splendid screen bash does at most 444 damage. so, if you did the eyelander shield damage buff transfer to the splendid screen, hitting the combo could do up to 487 damage

[@A.Singularity]

​@@jackmio AEEEEAEAEAEAEEAEAUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHH kaBOOOOM aaaaaaeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuugggggghhhhhhh you have dominated heavy Heavy revenge

[@Ethelo1301]

Man, I hope to see a dual sword demoknight one day

[@nix3l_]

Yea im sure everyone else would love that

[@trikyoo]

How is this comment older than the video

[@pawarad1526]

Demo knight hell.exe

[@loribertok]

You can still do that with engie, but its pretty much useless, main use is to 2hit heavies instead of 3, and troll spies, delfy has a video about it but i've discovered that its still not patched You have to hold left and right click on a building, as soon as you place your building your character does an extra swing, also, its useful with mini sentries cause you almost instant build it But placing a building and turning on an enemy in like half a second is difficult to pull off, just ends up wasting time. But very easy to do

[@aahaanchatterjee9885]

130 damage per hit 390 damage when crit Just saying

[@TheJosiahTurner]

Demoknight is basically just.. source engine, the character

[@vivelespatat2670]

Shitty melee hitreg 24/7, engine exploits with trimping, janky mechanics that aren't intended/doesn't work as intended (extender, longer charges on bash kills). Yup, definitely Source Engine the character.

[@TheJosiahTurner]

@@vivelespatat2670 the Most jank thing you can somehow have fun playing

[@therobot1080]

yes

[@Rafelandroid2]

@@vivelespatat2670 trimping is really fun though. they should just keep it as a feature like what they did with rocket jump! takes some skill, but extremely rewarding!

[@gregorymirabella1423]

@@Rafelandroid2it is a feature though, there's a loading screen tip that mentions it.

[@wolfspider1693]

My conclusion: Holding down right click as Demoknight TF2 causes very strange things to happen.

[@Takato142]

"I don't really know the best way to end this video" *proceeds to end the video in the best possible manner*

[@1whospeaks]

"It seems that Valve made one mistake" ... one?

[@BlazingShadowSword]

Well yeah, it's relative. One, as in the amount of atoms in one hand.

[@staticsfs6823]

You mean dota right?

[@GooseMcBruce]

the virgin SFM vs the chad shaking the mouse around

[@urmemegay7929]

This meme is gay

[@justoriginal6029]

what

[@3zozmk973]

@@urmemegay7929 so is your mom

[@urmemegay7929]

@@Rodrigo-kq3js that's because your ideas hasn't developed yet

[@iceeci9562]

@@urmemegay7929 ta *sar *************************** and thee area.#**** ************tehe e te e ******************teaste *et t to t

[@purplehaze2358]

You don’t need to swing before charging, melee hit detection is so broken that half the time it’ll connect anyway.

[@jemond]

8:44 I’m glad I’m not the only one who believes that naruto song is an absolute BANGER.

[@TheInfectedGamerYT]

Which one?

[@kebasnaek4129]

Wasn’t expecting to see a 3kliksphilip “Sorse” joke, but it’s a welcome surprise

[@Pmannen00]

It's actually from his smaller, prettier, more dank brother 2kliksphilip but as usual his brother steals all his credit

[@MrCubFan415]

A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.

[@Matteo73M]

Every KZbinr sone how knows every other one

[@Tsuki_On_Paws]

This video demonstrated something crucial: the movement of the character's head relative to the mouse's movements is absolutely beautiful.

[@agentdelta569]

8:27 THEORY: the "regen charge on melee kill" stat actually just regenerates charge on any kill (or maybe just on any kill with a melee being held), it then does a check to see if it was a melee weapon kill, and removes however much charge it regenerated if its not, however if you hold right click, you initiate a new charge before the game has a chance to remove this regenerated charge meter

[@hi-i-am-atan]

my own guess is that shield damage counts as melee damage ( either that, or it's because the shield itself isn't its own weapon - you're technically wielding another weapon when you charge, after all - so shield kills while holding a melee count as melee kills for the effect ) but applies _before_ the charge ends, so you get the meter refill in any time you get a shield kill to begin with ... but then your current charge ends and your charge meter immediately drops to zero it'd certainly explain why it just seems like a variant on the extender, since they both involve holding right click when you gain 100% charge to start a new one and prevent your old charge from ending, throwing away all that meter you just gained

[@pulledpork9778]

Keep in mind that the extender can be used to mess up a pyro’s airblast timing because they don’t expect you to have the increased melee range

[@aahaanchatterjee9885]

He is back when his people needed him the most

[@user-bw4ec4bm2t]

Aye can you tell me what the map at 0:20 is?

[@abdulrahmanalbinali4095]

@@user-bw4ec4bm2t tr_walkway

[@user-bw4ec4bm2t]

@@abdulrahmanalbinali4095 thanks

[@disrike2909]

truancy

[@KayDragonn]

SolarLight: "I don't really know the best way to end this video." Also SolarLight: *Ends the video in the best way possible*

[@kingpiplup5258]

Agreed

[@Kilo_Maybe]

By breaking his arm with good music

[@lordrwbyandnepwatcher1387]

Exactly

[@Jawsomest]

10:34

[@jeremypanjaitan4039]

"The claps from my ass cheeks keep alerting the enemy pyro" -Spy Doer of moms

[@Robosium]

8:40 what probably is happening is that the charge meter is getting refilled a moment before the charge ends and charge ending sets the meter to zero without caarrying any of the remaining meter over

[@garyguillet7950]

That outro is perfection.

[@bearydangerous6318]

After watching Solar and knowing that there is someone with that much power and skill, i am too afraid to go into pubs.

[@adityamaram6293]

@@eyluvl what do you mean by experience instead of skill.

[@localidiotnumber792]

@@adityamaram6293 well spy is mostly movement skill. demoknight is having experience of knowing exactly how far your charge goes, what your resistances are, or other stuff like that

[@adityamaram6293]

@@localidiotnumber792 Well, couldn't you call the ability to gauge distance well, knowing when you should strike, from where you should strike, which target is your priority, and being able to dodge projectiles and shots a skill?

[@localidiotnumber792]

@@adityamaram6293 Yeah, but knowing exactly what your opponent can do based on their visible load out only comes with experience

[@ennigama9092]

I was on one of his teams during the whole Headless Headsman incident... let's just say he carried the team.

[@ethanbrandt8617]

Imagine a demo knight running tide turner, booty's and eyelander or pursian persuader and just going around the map like a train constantly charging and getting shield bash kills

[@orangechicken2262]

You don't have to imagine if you join a 10-1000x server and wait

[@jayfeather001theslav5]

That’ll be me once I get the boots

[@3rdJan]

wow, great video! really easy to watch, explains stuff well with good examples and it's also pretty funny. I can see the AsumSaus inspiration but you made your own thing out of it, which is great! Also, I love the "Extender because Melee" reference lmaoo

[@PurpleLogicYT]

It's just a demo. There were bound to be some bugs

[@temanator6457]

"Special thanks to my Discord mods for being my guinea pigs for some parts of the video. " ok

[@plazmikpond]

ok

[@jackgold7340]

ok

[@randomgoose2905]

ok

[@Trap-Girl]

ok

[@brownie5458]

ok

[@ritenger87]

This is a great vid!! I can see the Amus inspiration and that's honestly a really good thing. I actually understand TF2 lol

[@snipernosniping2505]

Solar light you're awesome I wish you made a lot more videos you're editing is awesome really like how you change the pace of everything just keep up the good work

[@bigjoeylyqnuts]

the most interesting glitch is that demoman does a mini punch when walking forward and backwards 10:39

[@wideengineer]

Nah,its just his democrab spirit

[@bigjoeylyqnuts]

well holy fuck this comment blew up

[@Matteo73M]

He’s more or less rolling his arm getting ready to “ shield bash “ sone one

[@nokamiwd]

So the game's code is held together with shoelaces and gum. Nice.

[@mishael1339]

just gum, actually

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Source IS a tower of duct tape.

[@mishael1339]

@@DinnerForkTongue I stand corrected

[@kolamite]

That's source spaghetti for ya. It's like normal spaghetti but the noodles are moldy and the sauce is actual human feces.

[@Crosshill]

@@kolamite reading the developer comments in the code from that one video, i think its likely seasoned with tears

[@TheDoc_K]

I remember LazyPurple recommending you and man, if the rest of your content is half as good as this video, then I've been missing out! Great work!

[@Ringowasprettygood]

OMG i saw the wavy text in the last buggy video and thought of asumsaus!!! loved you shouted them out

[@marcoscubilla6169]

The Simpsons Hit & Run OST has started to become a very common background music for TF2 videos for some reason.

[@axel990413]

Sounds like Tom Jones as well :D

[@missingindy]

I thought it was the ECDP ost

[@mr365truck9]

6:56 I feel like the shield multi bash could be pretty useful in 10x

[@Theman-kr9fm]

i got a rare achievement for that in x10

[@Chick2106]

@@Theman-kr9fm what achievment

[@Theman-kr9fm]

@@Chick2106 killing like 5 targets with 1 shield bash

[@popkoji]

Great guide, love your choice of music too

[@SleepyOcto]

I like the machinima head bobs, its been a while since I last watched one of your demoknight videos

[@icetide9411]

The ending was... Beautiful. Never cried so much at such a emotional story

[@czha8329]

The one with the dancing demoknight or the one with the spy with think cheeks?

[@redclover7105]

@@czha8329 yes

[@ryanrong495]

Solarlight be like when he failed miserably : (edit: well this is unexpected TBH....... But thx for the over 300 likea)

[@ryanrong495]

Yes he actually switching his trusty sword just to drink

[@sophiedeergirl]

How did you comment before the video

[@saxshton]

@@sophiedeergirl the video was priemered

[@ryanrong495]

@@sophiedeergirl always click on your notifications m8

[@_kishken_1595]

I love this style of editing akin to asumsaus I hope we get to see more videos like this :))

[@tihy9s168]

This video was amazing and it’s editing was even better lmfaoooo

[@Halocon720]

Demoknight Loadout: The Über-Charger -Eyelander (5 heads) -Tide Turner -Booties Oneshot scouts, spies, engineers, and snipers and pick up ammo boxes in a chain for infinite charge

[@tvcat5096]

eyelander+ammo boxes=charge?

[@user-Insane_Ails]

@@tvcat5096 It's the tide turners ability. I think he means that when you kill a scout the tide turner shield bash will recharge and you will be able to charge further and possibly hit another person charging even more

[@iiiivvvv9986]

But tide Turner has less shield bash than splendid screen? Haven't checked the numbers but will it actually work?

[@2.0pewdiepie53]

@@iiiivvvv9986 He just has to kill someone who's at lower health.

[@jkdontjudgeme]

10:33 so... who's gonna make this part for 10 hours?

[@FrancisACNH]

“WHAT THE FU- BOOOOOOM” Now that’s a meme I haven’t seen in ages…

[@people9426]

11:20 dang look at the golden contract nice Also Peter Griffey pose?burn witch yes

[@drunkengibberish1143]

That extended bottle is 'Scrümpy for the GentleMann'

[@LunaXCBN]

Ok so just hold right click no matter what when charging, got it.

[@captntargaryen]

This is, by far, the best outro ever.

[@MiquShiro]

I can smell a new demoknight montage with extender included.

[@zurdoo0]

The idea of giving demoman a sword and shield was a bug

[@sheehan3204]

i wouldn't be surprised

[@robinscompass5951]

This was the last place I expected to see Asumsaus referenced but I’m not complaining

[@sclafyheart]

"Aye, me bottle o' scrumpy!"

[@fenzgmod7377]

FREEEE- *gets teleported to Brazil*

[@Fallout0SC]

Cool video. I really liked the video ending/dancing.

[@myykana]

I fear no man, but that thing **triple bottle** It scares me

[@ceru3707]

Sooooooo, tide turner + booties + glitched eyelander buffing + holding down rmb = *Mowing through every light class in your line of sight*

[@bruschetta7711]

Seems the perfect way to kill snipers on 2fort

[@errorcode651]

Sadly the tide turner does less damage, (capping out at 75 with 5 heads) but if you used the glitched extendo reach to hit the light class before running into them then yes, they will die and yes, you can charge reset and continue the slaughter

[@r3ynolds_ow581]

2:42 I saw this in my nightmares. The turnaround!

[@MorphBaller388]

Love the use of the mk7 music, makes the vibes be vibin

[@_bongo]

Man, I cant wait to watch team fort 2 and see my favourite character, D E M O K N I G H T T F 2

[@wuzz111]

The demoman shaking his head and *vibin* is the funniest thing

[@Barlakopofai]

I think the reason why the multibash works like that is that shields are calculated as *melee damage* for the purpose of damage calculations, with a separate line of code added on top that says "shield bash = end charge" but then it also has a line that says alt-fire = charge and then it has one singular tick where the charge ends and the charge meter is full and then due to weird code a charge cannot start while a charge is ending so you just don't get the effects but the game treats all of them as separate charges and you could test this by testing the damage output of the splendid screen after a bash chain

[@Fasteddie9000]

That last part was the best thing I’ve ever seen

[@DeslikKarcasso]

In regards to carrying over eyelander buffs, swapping to the caber with the buffed splendid screen could most likely one hit a 450 hp Heavy

[@nyxl6508]

0:25 were no strangers to buuuuugs you know the rules and so do i

[@smarkwell8590]

Thank you for this! I was looking for a good reason to get back into demo knight

[@Treblaine]

"my code is perfect, it accounts for every eventuality" "What if I hold the button down?" "IMPOSSIBLE!"

[@paulsd9255]

Let’s see if this video ends up being like the one that eventually patched one of the turn bugs and gave us the Tide Turner

[@elsgare8485]

Having recently taken up arms for the Demoknight TF2 cause, I can concur: The bugs are part of the fun.

[@heroak4744]

man your music choice is just perfect

[@tectonicgaming504]

8:43 that song hit me so hard harder then the shield bash felt like a kid again playing my favorite childhood game.

[@tectonicgaming504]

Theme not song my bad*

[@-Raylight]

Valve : *_Removed demoknight TF2_* too confusing for new players

[@thexylophone]

@Yelta Cookie so i guess you haven't seen how many times they've removed something for being "too confusing for new players"

[@multiwaypche6640]

10:33 Everytime during setup as a demoman I either spam KABOOM taunt or do a democrab rave

[@501stboi3]

I love the monk moz koshia battle music. It’s beautiful and really adds to the baddassery of the glitches.

[@wade-potato6200]

Your music selection is top-notch

[@sn1p1n]

0:53 When you see your crush at school

[@vavys1429]

No no thats wrong

[@magnetiteeagle2.025]

No no fbi at my door

[@jevilthedevil-clown7492]

FBI OPEN UP

[@sn1p1n]

I think I thought less worse than others.

[@sn1p1n]

Funny relatable memes

[@simpIeidiot]

when bottleknight tf2:

[@vc_whatever]

bottleknight is now meta

[@yuddpudd]

CRITICAL HIT

[@theakwardpotato2753]

Wow I wasn’t expecting to get hit with that Mario kart 7 nostalgia

[@Tower_Swagman]

10:45 that is the grooviest demoknight dance i ahve ever seen in my whole life

[@DISGUYR8HERE]

Solar: idk how to end this video so just ughh.... *weird dance ensues* The people: PERFECT *weirder real ending ensues* The people: EVEN BETTER!

[@Maddiedoggie]

Demoknight is a human-shaped car that is fueled by pedestrians.

[@rocket-rakun8133]

papa solar, i got my first 50 killstreak as demoknight and capped at 54, Thanks for the videos and all the trimping spots, they really helped

[@jaske69]

title: exist me with and old ass android: demoknight TF2 is a "blocks"

[@soft8oiled]

Range when it's me playing : *48* On other hand - A laggy enemy: *THOUSAND*

[@michaelzhang9806]

Nobody: Solar when talking: w i g g l e

[@yyoshman]

yoo that smash melee reference was on point good job solarlight

[@theofficialchannelofoffici7962]

Was amazing to see not just a meelee ref but a asumsaus shoutout

[@pietro6227]

we need a 10hour version of that ending

[@thealleyway525]

That dancing demo knight was truly the best way to end

[@nobilt]

The thing so many bugs are being discovered now is so weird after these 14 years

[@Rogue_Grank]

10:35 demo man cranking the soulja boy

[@filo8197]

Couple o' bottles o' scrampe

[@tugazu]

10:32 When you have to extend to video lenght to 10 minutes but dont know how.

[@mann274]

He extended the video by holding right-click

[@velarowo]

The video was already 10 minutes

[@trench7599]

it was 10 minutes before that

[@Predator20357]

BlackRaven918 he extended the video by pushing down the right click button like the person above said

[@volkanik3070]

Try thinking before making a comment

[@alessiomaggilino5916]

The Mario Kart Wii music in the background is immaculate.

[@SirNarax]

I have a theory for the buff transferring. The change to the Eyelander that gave it the extra damage for every head was not actually added to the Eyelander but rather the shields. I imagine it was done this way just in case they added another weapon later that gathered heads as well. This could explain why the bug only doesn't occur on the sword items, there may be some kind of tag calling them a sword. Ah, the Half-Zatoichi. Well it was the only of the swords to also appear on another class and for a while the animations were bugged in the loadout menu and it displayed the stock bottle animations but with the sword in hand. So I presume the weapon is missing these tags if they exist.