SoloTürk F-16 Demo Nearly Hits Crowd

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C.W. Lemoine

C.W. Lemoine

Күн бұрын

Former F-16 Pilot Breaks Down SoloTürk F-16 Near Disaster during demo. x.com/avionot/... • Solotürk Adana’da yüre...
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@robem2349
@robem2349 15 сағат бұрын
Camera man never dies, he saved everyone.
@EricYamf
@EricYamf 15 сағат бұрын
😂 This actually made me laugh, camera man never dies
@DropdudeJohn
@DropdudeJohn 14 сағат бұрын
Ramstein proves you wrong
@user-xq4lp6ho1i
@user-xq4lp6ho1i 13 сағат бұрын
That is Germany those rules do not apply.
@JustPlaneNutzRC
@JustPlaneNutzRC 10 сағат бұрын
Damn, you beat me too it, I was coming down to write this exact comment. 😂👍💯
@brentdennard6722
@brentdennard6722 7 сағат бұрын
Alec Baldwin disagrees
@chili_92
@chili_92 Күн бұрын
I’m sure there were folks in the crowd absolutely loving it.
@Chuck8541
@Chuck8541 13 сағат бұрын
They sure as heck aren't gonna ever forget that! lol
@kevinm.n.5158
@kevinm.n.5158 11 сағат бұрын
Not gonna lie i would totally pay to have a fighter jet almost give me a buzz cut and singe my brows with Afterburner
@MrGp3po
@MrGp3po 11 сағат бұрын
@@kevinm.n.5158 but not in an out of control manner
@daveg5857
@daveg5857 Сағат бұрын
In the same way as thrill rides and scary movies. You're just thankful to be ok at the end.
@MegaAKuRAi
@MegaAKuRAi 15 сағат бұрын
The second angle is crazy because that would be the path of destruction if the crash were to happen.
@babygrrlpc5057
@babygrrlpc5057 Күн бұрын
Thanks, Mover. One thought about the guy potentially “filming his own death”. I think civilians have been told so often how safe flying is, how every mishap improves safety, and in the world of air shows in particular, with all the crazy acrobatics that are done, that we’re simply lulled into apathy about the danger. Personally, watching a Raptor go vertical is thrilling but I’m terrified of the small biplane acrobat stunts. I think we’ve gotten so used to seeing mil jets do some amazing things - I likely wouldn’t have realized the danger here, myself. That’s why your perspective is so appreciated.
@samuraidriver4x4
@samuraidriver4x4 16 сағат бұрын
Everyone is filming everything these days. From the most mundane things to active shooter situations with bullets flying past. In my opinion its not about the public thinking flying is safe it's due to a cell phone addiction.
@babygrrlpc5057
@babygrrlpc5057 15 сағат бұрын
@@samuraidriver4x4 maybe. But all the years I’ve been going to air shows, more than 20 now, I have always tried to capture it on film because it’s so spectacular to see a mil jet fly, not something a lot of civilians see up close unless you live near a base.
@aaronwhite1786
@aaronwhite1786 14 сағат бұрын
@@samuraidriver4x4 I don't think it's that. I think it's more likely they're just at an airshow and filming. If this video title didn't reference the F-16 nearly crashing into the crowd, you'd likely be in a similar frame of mind. Just watching a cool airshow and filming it to watch later. You aren't going to suspect something's going wrong until that plane's already seconds from the crowd. You can even notice some of the people in frame who kind of flinch as their brains do the math on the plane potentially heading towards them, but they freeze up for that split second, possibly because they're in a crowd and just naturally feel a little safer, combined with the "I'm at an organized airshow with professional pilots, what could happen?".
@samuraidriver4x4
@samuraidriver4x4 14 сағат бұрын
@@aaronwhite1786 I hardly ever film stuff anyway, rather enjoy watching something normally instead of on a screen. Recently we had the last Dc-3 in my country fly over on its last flight ever before going into a museum and I didn't film it but just enjoyed the moment of seeing and hearing it. Plenty of other people with much better equipment that are filming then me with a cellphone. Besides that, got apache's, chinooks, nh90's and f35's fly straight over my house pretty much twice a week or more. No more F16'S as they are now officially no longer in service here.
@CoreDump07
@CoreDump07 13 сағат бұрын
i don't think running would do any good once you realize what happens
@jknelhams
@jknelhams 19 сағат бұрын
Their displays are impressive, but time and again it appears poor judgement is exercised. SoloTurk was at RIAT (Fairford Airshow) this year - and received two knock it offs from the display director for violations from their 3 displays over the 3 days. 1st for not following their pre-approved display sequence; 2nd for repeated crowd line infringements. A few years ago at the Turkish Formula Un (2021 maybe) they got far too low on a flyby of the grid. There was also the ultra-low boat pass that you and Gonky covered on an early episode of M&G show. Now this wing rock episode. That’s all the hallmarks of a culture there - and it’s sad as their displays are already great and don’t need this shithousery along with it. I’ve no doubt the pilot had no intention of having a near miss with the crowd. But the wing rock seems very exaggerated; gets away from him and causes this.
@rogerramjet8395
@rogerramjet8395 16 сағат бұрын
Yeah, was looking for this comment (was gonna make the same comment). I hope that the hard bank to the left was to not (further) violate any airspace restrictions, but this cultural thing (I immediately thought "Hang on, wasn't it the Turks who did that ultra-low boat pass?") makes me worry he may have felt some instant need to bluff: "I meant that" … Obviously, I have no idea - we'll have to wait for the incident report - but it almost appears that way … 😕
@LeonAust
@LeonAust 14 сағат бұрын
Maybe the Turks are not that well disciplined in their air force, seems to be a history of failing flight safety standards. You don't Fk up at RIAT and get away with it!
@SamT-rf1dx
@SamT-rf1dx 12 сағат бұрын
likely answer here
@Zone5Aviation
@Zone5Aviation 11 сағат бұрын
Was there too watching the Sunday show towards the the East end of the show ground. He came extremely close if not over the crowd line and the show seemed a bit anticlimactic. Obviously now has a history of violations.
@jimmay1988
@jimmay1988 11 сағат бұрын
Absolutely the culture. Kuwaitis pilots get overly cocky with their inexperienced wingmen, too.
@John.Diaz76
@John.Diaz76 Күн бұрын
Check your shorts moment for the pilot, but “WOW that was cool” for the crowd. It’s better to not know how close they came to ending up part of the mishap report.
@GregOwens-vh4se
@GregOwens-vh4se 6 сағат бұрын
This is the youtube video of the year for me. Thank you. What a save. Can you image being on the ground brave enough to watch the jet come at you and save it. Best adrenaline rush ever.
@oldschooleazykillz-outlawj6464
@oldschooleazykillz-outlawj6464 15 сағат бұрын
Crazy how barely anyone realized just how dead they could have been. WHEW
@greenthing99100
@greenthing99100 10 сағат бұрын
I once stood on an earth bank at the UK Silverstone F1 Grand Prix. The red arrows did one of their displays using the old main runway as their primary sightline. One of the solo aircraft pulled out of a synchronised head-on roll a fraction nose-low. Two seconds later I was processing just how close the belly of the plane [so long ago it was a Folland Gnat] had been to the top of my head as the recovery trajectory, strikingly similar to this one, played out. In both cases it looked like pilot error followed by brilliant decision-making under pressure. I hope they let him keep flying because he is never, ever going to do that again.
@tomwilson1006
@tomwilson1006 15 сағат бұрын
Just another reason why MOVER needs to be back in the seat teaching other pilots in the mighty Viper!
@jjk5048
@jjk5048 15 сағат бұрын
Happens to me all the Time in DCS
@vikingcat794
@vikingcat794 14 сағат бұрын
🤣
@Aeronaut1975
@Aeronaut1975 17 минут бұрын
You and me both, bro. You and me both... 🤣
@w0706
@w0706 15 сағат бұрын
Insane safe, thank God the pilot managed to save it!
@steve334
@steve334 15 сағат бұрын
Man I need to go to one of these air shows 🎉
@vJaBoG32Laud
@vJaBoG32Laud 14 сағат бұрын
You really do! 🤙
@anthonymallia3691
@anthonymallia3691 15 сағат бұрын
Found this on the web….. make sense to you ?? In the F-16 the way the FLCS works is it tries to keep you rolling around the longitudinal flight vector, rather than the aircraft longitudinal axis. That means the more AoA you have when you start an aileron roll (later stick input), the more your nose will rotate off-plane and potentially make you end up pointing below the horizon. For this reason it’s important to cancel out any significant AoA before making an aileron roll (unless of course you want to make a loaded roll). I think his mistake was that he was pulling out of a loop and still had significant AoA in when he started to roll, ended up with the nose pointing at the ground and was cold blooded enough to save it.
@LeoH3L1
@LeoH3L1 15 сағат бұрын
I think that's called "making excuses".
@defencebangladesh4068
@defencebangladesh4068 15 сағат бұрын
Make sense
@EDCandLace
@EDCandLace 14 сағат бұрын
I totally agree with everything except he was cold blooded enough to save it. I'm sorry but that was luck and at that point once inverted at that altitude he couldn't say bye bye cockpit or he would have died and by the time the jet was back upright he was flying out of it. Thankfully no one was killed and no f16 lost but in this case I don't believe it was anything more than luck he had enough just enough altitude that he just hit them with jet blast rather than the jet. There was definitely some burnt eye brows in that crowd lol.
@spock81
@spock81 14 сағат бұрын
Except that he was clearly not pulling out of a loop in the footage.
@RussianThunderrr
@RussianThunderrr 7 сағат бұрын
wrote: "Found this on the web….. make sense to you ?? In the F-16 the way the FLCS works is it tries to keep you rolling around the longitudinal flight vector, rather than the aircraft longitudinal axis. That means the more AoA you have when you start an aileron roll (later stick input), the more your nose will rotate off-plane and potentially make you end up pointing below the horizon. For this reason it’s important to cancel out any significant AoA before making an aileron roll (unless of course you want to make a loaded roll)." -- It doesn't sounds like this explanation was written by pilot... I can't speak for military maneuvering terminology, maybe Mover can cheap-in and strait it out, but phrase "longitudinal flight vector" made me cringe and think hard about what you(or whoever you trying to make sense here) - there are three directional axis, about which aircraft maneuvering: Longitudinal, Lateral and Vertical - or simpler way to call in pilot lingo - Roll, Pitch and Yaw. Pitch does control AoA, but its about increasing or decreasing AoA, but not canceling AoA. And there is no need to cancel per say. "Loaded Roll" too - is that a barrel roll!? IDK
@zambakteacher
@zambakteacher 5 сағат бұрын
I was there to watch the show. He completed his show, but after that day, the other pilot went on flying for the next 4 days. It was on the second day of a six-day aviation and science festival. Normally, he is the number two pilot. The next days till the end of festival, the leader pilot flew for 4 days.
@alidigitaly
@alidigitaly 6 сағат бұрын
This was close to being like back in 88. It has been a long time but what a tragedy that was.
@andresilvasophisma
@andresilvasophisma 15 сағат бұрын
Looks like pilot error, tbh. Edit Next on the Mover product line, Skateboards.
@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures
@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures 15 сағат бұрын
HA! Was thinking the same thing!
@superflyguy4488
@superflyguy4488 16 сағат бұрын
Ive seen Solo Turk conduct displays in Northern Cyprus serval times and generally there is little regard for safety when it comes to how they treat buildings and crowds.
@guedos
@guedos 14 сағат бұрын
Turks are crazy! could he have been fighting the flcs?
@cantari5667
@cantari5667 14 сағат бұрын
Yeah.. It's this bravery you owe your living safe and in peace!
@RedTail1-1
@RedTail1-1 12 сағат бұрын
​@@cantari5667right... Two dozen people in that crowd almost lost theirs due to that "bravery"
@cantari5667
@cantari5667 11 сағат бұрын
@@RedTail1-1 You care about people losing their lives? Maybe you should direct your great comments to those taking the lives of hundreds of women and children in Palestine everyday!
@ukqwerty999
@ukqwerty999 7 сағат бұрын
@@cantari5667 Was wondering who would make this inane comment, you are the Winner. Coming into random KZbin flying videos and talking about middle east politics is so 2023.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 9 сағат бұрын
Really informative video thankyou. I do remember when we were at RIAT this year he went way over the display line having just broken out of cloud after a cuban. So glad this turned out to be a near miss. I hope the investigation brings to light exactly what happened. Take care.
@benz500r
@benz500r 9 сағат бұрын
I think you're right. Those things happen and your conclusion about the flight controls are spot on.
@ferittuzer4629
@ferittuzer4629 13 сағат бұрын
one commentary I heard is the fly by wire computer just continued the left roll instead of taking the right roll command that the pilot gave next, so the plane went into a barrel roll, from which the pilot recovered and pulled up.
@owenmerrick2377
@owenmerrick2377 15 сағат бұрын
Pilot started a slow right roll; switches to a faster left roll; meanwhile the nose is dropping and there's a hesitation when inverted, (making up his mind what to do?) continues the left roll to level and pulls out. I think the pilot got off his show routine....if there was one.
@RedTail1-1
@RedTail1-1 12 сағат бұрын
From what I've been reading about these guys from those who've witnessed their demonstrations. They just do whatever they want to whenever they feel like it. One person mentioned a pilot being reprimanded repeatedly for deviating from the planned demonstration and violating safety protocols.
@owenmerrick2377
@owenmerrick2377 10 сағат бұрын
@@RedTail1-1 Why am I not surprised?
@dblankenship88
@dblankenship88 14 сағат бұрын
I was waiting for you to get ahold of this one.
@pittss2c601
@pittss2c601 15 сағат бұрын
You should have been at Oshkosh this year. The military is heavily recruiting there (plus everywhere else) and they have nearly taken over this experimental homebuilt airshow & convention event. Non-stop jet noise right on the deck all day long. And they are allowed to fly over the crowd from West to East at super low altitude like 300’ at airshow center. It’s nuts. All of us pilots complained.
@RedTail1-1
@RedTail1-1 12 сағат бұрын
I'd rather have experienced military flying over me than experimental pilots in something they built inside their garage.
@pittss2c601
@pittss2c601 11 сағат бұрын
@@RedTail1-1 Have you witnessed the jet crashes and incursions during Oshkosh each year? I have lost count on all that I have seen. They try to keep many of them quiet. I volunteer there for 2-3 weeks each year, and we hear everything. I saw the F16 crash. I witnessed Jack Rouch’s private jet crash (Hawker Beechcraft 390). I witnessed the Corsairs crash right in front of me on the runway. A blue angel hit his wingtip during a practice flight which grounded his aircraft. All of those aircraft were “factory built”.
@cup_and_cone
@cup_and_cone 2 сағат бұрын
@@pittss2c601 F-16 was a landing mishap and Blues always trade paint. None of the other instances you mention are military related demos. So it looks like you're still short on examples of military demo's having accidents...
@angrydachshund
@angrydachshund 12 сағат бұрын
Thank you for the analysis.
@SimonWallwork
@SimonWallwork 15 сағат бұрын
That was too close. In the UK flying towards the crown isn't allowed.
@wiwa23
@wiwa23 15 сағат бұрын
It looks this was not the actual crowd area but more of a transit/walk towards the crowd area. This can happen in the UK as well with spotter/aviation lovers standing outside the crowd area outside the base or something like this.
@plrpilot
@plrpilot 6 сағат бұрын
This makes me nauseous. So scary.
@PaddyPatrone
@PaddyPatrone 9 сағат бұрын
I have seen the solotürk displays in person a couple years ago. It was more on the bold side...
@EDCandLace
@EDCandLace 14 сағат бұрын
Absolutely terrifying, that man and crowd was literally one or two tenths of a second from death. If he delayed anything he did 2 tenths of a second this video made me get chills! Excellent break down Mover.
@Erated78
@Erated78 6 сағат бұрын
Mover, I think you’ve nailed the scenario perfectly - very risky - let’s hope there was a debrief of sorts after this flight . Thanks and cheers
@martindworak
@martindworak 5 сағат бұрын
😮😮😮 If it was me I’d be diving to the ground at 1:45, huge props to whoever maintained that camera pointing in the right direction!!
@ozymandias1192
@ozymandias1192 16 сағат бұрын
As soon as I saw this video I was waiting for your reaction to it
@jmp.t28b99
@jmp.t28b99 14 сағат бұрын
That low and that fast, the brain is just not fast enough to beat physics. I think that the pilot was fortunate to be able to finish the roll and pull to the limiter a split second before hitting the ground. The sky is not the limit.....the ground is!
@Nehpets1701G
@Nehpets1701G 15 сағат бұрын
Hory sheet! I bet they could feel the exhaust heat!
@rogerweber8194
@rogerweber8194 14 сағат бұрын
There have been instances where, on the analog FLCS, the ECA and FLCP have different software causing un expect roll behavior. Without any failure notices. The DFLCS COMBINED THE ECA LOGINC INTO THE DFCP.
@wurfyy
@wurfyy 11 сағат бұрын
Uhuh, yup, those are definitely words.
@rogerweber8194
@rogerweber8194 8 сағат бұрын
@@wurfyy I am sure Mover had to debrief an avionics tech.
@harrykoyl3784
@harrykoyl3784 Сағат бұрын
Yep! I think you hit the nail on the head! With just the video at hand, and with little information that you have, I think it's a pretty good assessment! At first, I thought the pilot was trying to do an aleron roll, and pulled back while inverted by accident, but watching over and over, looks more like an over bank that got away from him...Lucky, lucky, lucky, for everyone there! 😮
@mikeblasko841
@mikeblasko841 13 сағат бұрын
Love your channel!
@evanbenjamin4578
@evanbenjamin4578 Күн бұрын
Mover , in one of your past segments didn't you mentioned something about how a Pilot should "stay ahead of its aircraft" in flight or maybe think ahead . Can't recall exactly but You made a good point.
@georgeforeman1097
@georgeforeman1097 13 сағат бұрын
Thats a very common saying in the aviation community. You always wanna stay ahead of the aircraft. You dont wanna get caught behind and struggling to keep up.
@RussianThunderrr
@RussianThunderrr 10 сағат бұрын
wrote: ""stay ahead of its aircraft"" -- Its very hard to stay ahead of the event that called "wing stall" that can happened at any speed, and any altitude, especially when maneuvering aircraft aggressively, and that is in an aircraft that in a perfect mechanical order, which is the other "can of worms" of its own...
@TGoat5
@TGoat5 3 сағат бұрын
​@RussianThunderrr it's an airshow display, not a dogfight. You stay ahead of the aircraft by flying a practiced routine, planning your speeds, altitudes and control inputs days/weeks/months before. You practice at higher altitude, away from people until you have the routine perfected.
@RussianThunderrr
@RussianThunderrr 2 сағат бұрын
@@TGoat5 wrote: " You stay ahead of the aircraft by flying a practiced routine, planning your speeds, altitudes and control inputs days/weeks/months before. You practice at higher altitude, away from people until you have the routine perfected." -- Yes, practice, practice, practice! Every two years FAI(Fédération Aéronautique Internationale) publish known sequence/pattern of ten maneuvers, that depending on the aerobatic class, anyone in the world can show up to compete, be it full scale aerobatic airplane or RC, go to any FAI sanctioned events and ask pilots how many times they flew a perfect routine and got perfect score... There is nothing routine when you flying, especially that low and fast... People do make mistakes, and aircraft do break and malfunction too, but this instance, it looks to me like a stall or departure from controlled flight...
@renshangarailshipyard-pitstop
@renshangarailshipyard-pitstop 14 сағат бұрын
Eerily close like the SU-27 in the 2002 Sknyliv Air Show Disaster
@megalamanooblol
@megalamanooblol 12 сағат бұрын
Pretty sure I saw the footage from the crowd from that disaster, when SU-27 of a UAF literally mowed down the crowd. Pilot ejected and landed among the crowd as well. Pieces of bodies and blood everywhere, some 7-10 y.o kid`s arm lying on the ground ripped off. Fucking nightmare shit, worse than any Ukraine war footage I saw.
@astrophysicistguy
@astrophysicistguy 6 сағат бұрын
Completely agree. All my F-16 time is in block 30s and 40s and that sure looks like he got some unexpected roll coupling due to being a little too aggressive with the wing waggle at low speed/ high AOA. If he had a FCS issue the last time you ever want to do after recovery is go straight into a high bank maneuver. Declare an IFE, fly S&L and try to figure out how much control you still have ...
@Bradburger
@Bradburger 5 сағат бұрын
Good analysis! My understanding is that the second video was filmed from outside the airfield, where a 'secondary' crowd had gathered. This is something the CAA here in the UK have tried to clamp down on since the Shoreham tragedy in 2015, although it's something you will never completely eliminate, as people will always stop and look if they can get close to an active airfield, especially during an airshow!
@BuggSmasher
@BuggSmasher 15 сағат бұрын
If anything can be learnt from this footage, it's the true that the cameraman never dies !!!
@joeg5414
@joeg5414 15 сағат бұрын
i've got some footage that proves otherwise
@Darkvirgo88xx
@Darkvirgo88xx 5 сағат бұрын
Thank goodness he saved it. The Galloping Ghost was one of the worst crashes into a crowd I've seen though.
@ro9967
@ro9967 12 сағат бұрын
It was last week while I was in the area, didn't visit the event but saw the planes (also the F5 demo team) fly in the area. The event was on the old Adana airport (closed in August for domestic flights, those are now from Cukurova airport half an hour outside the city) which is basically inside the city itself. Houses and businesses all around. There was one guy with a flight suit each morning in our hotel at breakfast. Not sure if a stunt team pilot would go to the breakfast in an overall but it was special to see. Also close by is Incirlik Air Force base (also still for Nato if I'm right)
@erazorDev
@erazorDev 8 сағат бұрын
This was close to Sknyliv 2.0. He shouldn't have been so close to the crowd in the first place.
@shawn2443
@shawn2443 12 сағат бұрын
Would like to see HUD !! Yikes !! Well done Mover on the pros and cons.
@willowtree5267
@willowtree5267 13 сағат бұрын
Every once in awhile I see people comment about how USAF shows are kinda boring compared to foreign shows. This is why.
@simongeorge2505
@simongeorge2505 14 сағат бұрын
The Turkish Airforce F16's are Block50/50+ so digital with the more powerful engines. I saw his demo in Sanicole (Sept20/21) and this is the final departure pass, it was all wing waggles from what I remember, with a departure turn to port.
@CWLemoine
@CWLemoine 13 сағат бұрын
Solo Turk is a Block 30
@simongeorge2505
@simongeorge2505 12 сағат бұрын
@@CWLemoine I apologise, you are correct from there website ‘The demonstration flights are realized with a solo F-16 C Block-30 aircraft,
@bmwlane8834
@bmwlane8834 4 сағат бұрын
I've been to a couple for airshows outside the US when I was military. They definitely do it different.
@bmwlane8834
@bmwlane8834 4 сағат бұрын
I remember a show in Belgium when we did a rotation there. It was a Dutch F-16 that put on a show like I've never seen. It was amazing and scary at the same time. I thought he was going to hit one of the hangers. Lol
@SamiEyidilli
@SamiEyidilli 9 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the analysis, Mover. I don’t believe there was a technical issue, as they flew again in the show the following day. Some news sources mentioned that an investigation was underway to check for any technical problems, but this save seemed purely coincidental-thankfully, the pilot managed to recover. We'll probably never know if there was an investigation, as it’s likely an internal matter. However, I don’t think there were any restrictions limiting the aircraft's movement. They definitely issued NOTAMs that day, as the area is close to Incirlik Air Base and a regional airport. Regardless, they should be more careful.
@twelveparsex
@twelveparsex Сағат бұрын
I worked 10 years on the F-16 and can count on one hand how many uncommanded flight manevuers I've seen, even in flight test. Only one was caused by a mechanical problem.
@tomb2768
@tomb2768 14 сағат бұрын
If you watch the crowd where he pulled out of it a little girl holding he moms hand tried to pull he mom away, all be it in the wrong direction, she as a child knew something wasn't right. The adults.... not so much.🤔
@RussianThunderrr
@RussianThunderrr 11 сағат бұрын
-- Damn, it looks like he was trying to perform a slow roll to do low inverted pass, and did not give enough elevator to keep aircraft nose horizontal or upright. Got scared, and disoriented, tried to roll out, overcorrected, and once up-right belly stalled for a split second over the crowd, but managed to fly away, which is the best case scenario at this point. I'm glad it did not turned into a disaster.
@micktheartistayton7623
@micktheartistayton7623 12 сағат бұрын
Also had a close call landing at waddington one year
@Wannes_
@Wannes_ 11 сағат бұрын
Probably a different pilot but same attitude They fame themselves on doing slower slow passes, down to 100 or 95 knots, but the SoloTurk is lighter than later Cs with more power than an A
@Parawingdelta2
@Parawingdelta2 8 сағат бұрын
I thought that after the disaster at Ramstein Air Base in Germany in 1988 (which killed over 70 people),, flying directly over the heads of the crowds was disallowed at air displays.
@ming10000
@ming10000 3 сағат бұрын
Remember Thunderbird crash in early 2000; pilot set the altimeter wrong.
@MrGp3po
@MrGp3po 14 сағат бұрын
Camera man definitely had nerves of steel. Years ago I was filming a mama moose in Yellowstone with a crowd around her. Through the view finder I watched her lay her ears back, get an angry expression on her face, and charge the crowd! I thought, wow! Bet I got some good video there.” No. Reviewing showed as soon as she laid her ears back, I was running. Lol😂
@RedTail1-1
@RedTail1-1 12 сағат бұрын
Don't know why people think it's such a great idea to form crowds around wild animals.. The footage I see from Yellowstone always makes me sick in so many ways.
@MrGp3po
@MrGp3po 11 сағат бұрын
@@RedTail1-1 Many people have never seen these wild animals and are clueless as how to deal with them.
@Wannes_
@Wannes_ 11 сағат бұрын
Or doesn't comprehend things are not as they should be ...
@MrGp3po
@MrGp3po 8 сағат бұрын
@@Wannes_ LOL...yes, you should be able to scratch a bison behind the ears and cuddle a baby moose without being killed. lol
@Joseph55220
@Joseph55220 8 сағат бұрын
It's impossible to say just from the video, but the response of the aircraft almost makes it look like he caught some ground-effect. He's definitely a couple of meters too tall for the GE you'd typically having at landing speeds/attitude, but at higher speeds with all the air he's bending down with that inside aileron coming through the roll - he definitely blew some people's hats off.
@Joseph55220
@Joseph55220 8 сағат бұрын
And before someone mentions that the inside aileron is the aileron deflecting up... I'm talking about when he's finishing the roll (so the part where he's inverted)
@kenhoward127
@kenhoward127 4 сағат бұрын
An electrical failure is extremely remote. The FCS is quad redundant. The Flight Control Computer is four independent units in one box, each with its own connector. The same is true for the axis gyros, one set of four for each axis.
@Dcscockpit
@Dcscockpit 9 сағат бұрын
This has happened to me a million times doing a roll in dcs, he either was low on airspeed or he didn’t give any down elevator when rolling, this will happen every time
@kimberley188
@kimberley188 9 сағат бұрын
Very informative and interesting. Puts a less glamorized and more realistic light on fighter jets. It is definitely not a safe job and it is definitely something to be respected.
@jonesbugattis
@jonesbugattis 2 сағат бұрын
He destroyed the lower half of a flight suit, and his career in a millisecond! He is resting on the lowest floor of a Turkish prison this evening..
@danndank
@danndank 12 сағат бұрын
YOU SHOULDN'T STOP FILMING! Camera man never dies. :)
@rickhaiman9904
@rickhaiman9904 Сағат бұрын
Edward's AFB, best Air Show facilty ever, seen just about everything there, they fly out over the desert in front of you.
@Blackmoon9u9
@Blackmoon9u9 7 сағат бұрын
ATE said that the pilot fault, because of the low aspect angle where aircraft inverted
@jonathanshumpert9549
@jonathanshumpert9549 8 сағат бұрын
If I was in that crowd, I probably would have had a "code brown" moment.
@wildone106
@wildone106 14 сағат бұрын
Now we have the plot for Top Gun 3
@rynopot
@rynopot 16 сағат бұрын
Mover, did you see the Gripen crash in Thailand a few years ago? I wonder if it's not the same thing - I thought the Gripen pilot went into the barrel roll with less attitude than he thought. Couldn't recover and crashed in front of the crowd. This pilot did the see-saw (waving), and when he wanted to pull back on the stick to lift his nose (my suspicion) , he went into the left roll (which happens to me in DCS quite often)- which resulted in him being 1. Lower, and 2. Less attitude (nose-up for those less familiar with the terms) than he practiced and anticipated. Whatever the cause - a great save. I don't want to go down the Computer Flight Sim line (because I only fly computer jets) , but (here I go) I crashed SO many times in a fighter jet display (Its kind of my thing - you can see various displays on my channel). Various reasons for my crashing but most often, not getting my nose-up before an elevator roll, and the sudden drop in altitude surprised me. And in barrel rolls - not getting that first pull up far enough up, to recover on the second half of it.
@RogerJL
@RogerJL 12 сағат бұрын
Thai Gripen flew into ground several seconds after roll was done.
@MrAndy9572ac
@MrAndy9572ac 13 сағат бұрын
Great vid mover. I think most ppl in the crowd got a haircut from that pass
@travistolbert2647
@travistolbert2647 14 сағат бұрын
I know next to nothing about how the Viper control response is, but I’d venture a guess that his decision to continue the left roll then pull out saved the situation. If he had tried to correct back to the right that few factions of a second would have put him into the crowd.
@ald1144
@ald1144 16 сағат бұрын
That's the sort of close call that leaves your feet jumping on the pedals. Or at least it should.
@ShadesOClarity
@ShadesOClarity 12 сағат бұрын
Wow. Close call.
@jochenheiden
@jochenheiden 16 сағат бұрын
Hey Mover someone should file an IG complaint on this!
@jiyushugi1085
@jiyushugi1085 5 сағат бұрын
Remember, when inverted, pulling back on the stick makes the houses get bigger.
@Moneymyke357
@Moneymyke357 14 сағат бұрын
Saw this on FB and thought that couldn’t be intentional.
@Name-ps9fx
@Name-ps9fx 3 сағат бұрын
I know the first couple times I did that kind of (in DCS), I almost went into the ground....After watching the USN training films here on YT I kept the nose under control throughout the maneuver. Before, I was excited about the actual rolling part (hey! that/s cool! Sky below, ground above! Wait, where am I now...?)
@SkateZillaSimulations
@SkateZillaSimulations 13 сағат бұрын
That looked like clear showboating.
@skyepilotte11
@skyepilotte11 3 сағат бұрын
Irrespective of what the pilot did or didn't do or other flight control anomalies...the people responsible for the airshow boundaries were lacking in keeping the spectators too close to the runway. Thx Mover.
@sbreheny
@sbreheny 11 сағат бұрын
The SoloTurk Wikipedia article claims that they use a block 40 F-16C.
14 сағат бұрын
Actually, This was the part we loved as a crowd
@MrGp3po
@MrGp3po 14 сағат бұрын
Ignorance IS bliss.
@nsha2011
@nsha2011 15 сағат бұрын
POV: just looks like he was hot ridding and basically messed up.
@ronmarshall6829
@ronmarshall6829 16 сағат бұрын
That was CLOSE
@Shepa75
@Shepa75 14 сағат бұрын
What if I told you the pilot's name is Pete Mitchell... 😎
@vJaBoG32Laud
@vJaBoG32Laud 14 сағат бұрын
Glad that he was able to save it. Saw that guy 2 weeks ago in Belgium. When did this happen?
@Spartan620
@Spartan620 15 сағат бұрын
I’ll bet hats & toupees were flying, and a whole lot of hot ass exhaust felt on foreheads
@coma13794
@coma13794 15 сағат бұрын
I know you're listing possibilities to cover all bases, but I'd say it's 0% chance it was intentional. If the roll was intended, a pilot of that caliber wouldn't have hesitated at the 135 degree mark (where the problem started). If the intention was to do a full roll on the last waggle, it would've just been one continual roll from right knife edge through level, through left knife, through inverted, etc. Otherwise, everything else sounds like it's on the table. Great breakdown, thank you!
@mallias2683
@mallias2683 13 сағат бұрын
A few years ago they had a bald guy as their top demo pilot who had clearly mental issues and was doing very risky close to the crowd stunts. It would not surprise me if this is the same dude....
@maxhardover9772
@maxhardover9772 12 сағат бұрын
Hard to tell what's going on. As he banked left he let the nose drop (slow speed, need to pitch up before you roll). He's hesitates ever so slightly when inverted, nose still dropping, then snaps the roll hard to get the blue side up, but then exits show line in a hard left climbing turn as if to say, "Yeah, I planned that!" I'm leaning hard toward... he just gooned it. But, you never know...
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 12 сағат бұрын
Could we please get a defn. for term "Dishing it out"?
@derrickduncanson9253
@derrickduncanson9253 7 сағат бұрын
Your vid just popped up. But, reminds me of. Wait, I burned my leg, went to brook army medical in Texas. Ok now, I was there with a soldier from the tarmac crash in the 90s. This could have been horrible man. I know that crash was not an airshow crash. Just soldiers ready to board aircraft for training or mission. But reminded me of it.
@joehohmann6015
@joehohmann6015 Сағат бұрын
Damn that was scary !!!
@the12gaugeshotty
@the12gaugeshotty 10 сағат бұрын
Why were they doing a wing wave that fast and that low to the ground? That's very dangerous. I don't see that happening in air shows in the United States.
@Redders72
@Redders72 12 сағат бұрын
Hi mover , check out the typhoon near miss at RIAT 2006 …. It was way closer then this 😬
@Hawkeye6936
@Hawkeye6936 3 сағат бұрын
Guessing he needed a clean flightsuit.
@markusnachname1619
@markusnachname1619 13 сағат бұрын
I think the power of the Viper helped a lot.
@wurfyy
@wurfyy 11 сағат бұрын
Doubt it, he didn't have full throttle and this didn't look like the kind of situation where TWR would make a huge difference. If he had been at a super slow speed, such that as he was pulling up, he was stalling, then sure. But this looked like he had plenty of speed to work with, so power wasn't really needed.
@cshader2488
@cshader2488 5 сағат бұрын
would love to see the HUD cam
@luisribeiro4647
@luisribeiro4647 10 сағат бұрын
Relax...everything is under control !
@marktisdale7935
@marktisdale7935 8 сағат бұрын
That was close to being real bad.
@Tirran94
@Tirran94 11 сағат бұрын
I initially thought it was AI generated, crazy incident!
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