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@garyebken60562 жыл бұрын
Dude, your a genius. I have a 2009 R56 with 251000 miles and had the same problem crop up. So glad I found your video. You saved the car from the scrap heap. And saved me a ton of money. Just amazing. THANK YOU!
@Sek101 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video! All of the comments with others having the same issue, then resolving it after watching this gave me hope that my stalled-then-no-start situation related to this. So I followed your guidance, took out the fuse box, de-soldered *most* of the pins with a solder sucker (snipping the remaining 6 I couldn't fully de-solder) and sure enough that one solder joint looked just like yours. Added a bit of flux and re-flowed while adding a tad more solder. I wasn't sure if the relay was OK still so took a chance on it. Re-installed in the Mini and as soon as I reconnected the battery I heard the fuel pump prime. Good sign! It started right up. Not super familiar with auto mechanic stuff, so this was a huge win. Can't imagine what a dealer or other mechanic would've charged to resolve this!
@paultidwell6524 ай бұрын
Ran across this video this week, although I wasn’t experiencing the intermittent starts and stalls, I had no codes. It appeared that the fuel pump wasn’t priming so I began by trouble shooting electrical and things seem to point to the JBE. I do a lot of soldering so I felt comfortable pulling apart the box. Re-soldered the pins, put everything back together following your instructions and 45 minutes later I hit the start button and she turned right over. Can’t thank you enough for sharing this fix. I didn’t spend anything but my time which was well worth it. Thanks again!
@billpeugh95125 күн бұрын
2011 R57 MIni Cooper S with 97,000 miles exhibited all the symptoms until it finally died and wouldn't start. While waiting the two weeks for a service appt, I searched for information and found your video. Figuring I had nothing to lose, I tackled the job. Sure enough, there was the crack - no magnifier needed to see it.. Repaired, reassembled and now it runs perfectly. Thank you so much for your detailed diagnostic and repair video.
@VetOnVettes25 күн бұрын
Hell yeah. I'm really glad I made that video. It has helped about a hundred people. Glad it worked out. For peace of mind, mine is still going strong 3 years later.
@msr04 Жыл бұрын
First, thank you for do this valuable video and thank you for the explanation that is narrated in it in my case I am the owner of an R56 S n18, the first diagnosis at the workshop after the engine that sounded like a potato, was to replace the high pressure fuel pump, (1.4K€) not seeing it clearly on my own, I ended up here and the problem was solved in less than 4 hours and at the same time I changed the fuel pump and the high pressure pump (€40 amazon, €600 ebay) The Car is running better than ever and I am happy to saved myself a repair that would have left the car stopped for months in a workshop due to bad diagnoses and spending thousands of euros, obviously the solder on the fuse was damaged and thoroughly re-soldering the relay was more than enough thanks for the video again, and to those who have this problem in the future, without fear and with a little patience it can be achieved without problem greetings from barcelona r4ulfpv
@essbee79783 жыл бұрын
IT WORKS for Works. I knew I had the right video when you talked about both hating and loving the car. I have a 2010 JCW and it would randomly stall, then start after a few minutes. Random as in not every day or several times per day regardless of speed, weather or terrain. No check engine light, no clear repair path to follow. I was thinking along the lines of electrical issue and thankfully I found your video and it made perfect sense as I've encountered bad solder joints on other vehicles. After removing the fuse panel I tried to unsolder the pins that join the boards together but abandoned that ideas as the boards are soldered on both sides and the pin solder joints are covered with a waterproof coating. So I clipped them as you did. I found that pin 8 of the EP2F-B3G1 fuel pump relay - the switch contact that turns off/on power to the pump looked exactly like your video. A small crack in the solder around the pin with some bubbled solder. I took the relay out and checked its performance and reinstalled it. I resoldered the relay to the board and the board to board pins with silver solder which has a higher heat and vibration tolerance. I also went over a couple of suspect solder joints on the boards. Two months later and many thousands of miles later, no stalling - FIXED! I got lucky, I tried your cure first before replacing fuel pumps and throttle bodies and the like. Many thanks.
@KamakOzzie12 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I was have a random stalling out issue on my '09 R55 Clubman. I found your video while searching for fixes. My problem turned out to look exactly like your bad solder joint shown at 8:30. It has been running great for two months now.
@derekcunningham88572 жыл бұрын
We have had this random engine cutting out in our MY11 Cooper S for some time now & it got to the point where we weren't driving the car after it stopped in the middle of a major intersection. The engine always restarted after a few minutes & then drove home like nothing was wrong & I have been searching for this one for a while. Like you, I also replaced the fuel filter & was trying not to just throw parts at it until it was fixed as it gets way too expensive. So happy I found your video today as there was a dry solder joint at the low volume fuel pump relay pin exactly as you showed. It really is a love-hate relationship with a Mini. So good to drive & so annoying when it breaks. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@richarddimarco44315 күн бұрын
I’m an airline mechanic. After seeing this… I’ll buy another fuse box and install that. Too high an echelon of maintenance for me. Thank you for showing us the point of failure.
@drmmrby452 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. Crazy how I went through exactly what you went through. Car would randomly die and I couldn't figure it out. I replaced the fuel filter and put a new fuel pump and still wouldn't start. Now doing research and came across this video. SURE ENOUGH I took apart the junction box and that relay had a broken solder weld. Crazy. Thank you again! 13 mini JCW.
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad to help.
@freddy1jumper58 Жыл бұрын
If you were ever interested in Learning Mechanical or Electrical Engineering, Buying a Mini Cooper Might just be for You!
@bryangardner43706 ай бұрын
If a mini doesn't suit you get a Sprinter..same education.
@MotorSpotPt2 жыл бұрын
Well it worked for me... After a new HPFP was installed the car died again so I found your vídeo... Got the Fuse Box out and there it was the relay connection was broken and toasted... Replaced the welding and after 2500km the car is working like a charm no more problems with the stalling! Thanks!
@darrenellis89103 жыл бұрын
So often I find and fix faults with various things but then wish I had taken the time to video the procedure as I went through the stages. This is often not bothered with at the time as you go through so many ideas on how to fix the issues but some don’t remedy the issue so you tend to just get on with it. My point is, love how well you have managed to still compile a great tutorial on how to fix this issue without the original step by step video. Well done and great outcome 👏
@jarekkrol1 Жыл бұрын
Hi there and great, great thanks for the video. I own R56 2009 Mini Cooper and had this issue for years. Mine was stalling after first start in the morning once the engine was cold. This happened mostly during cold season, very rarely during the summer. No dealer could help as there were no codes. I removed the board as per your video (no easy it was though) but was not brave enough to split the sandwich. I took magnifying glass and examined pins of the low pressure fuel pump relay. Guess what - a middle pin in a first row had no solder at all! I need to look for some electronic workshop now with precise soldering expert to fix it. Btw. This issue should be a recall. Hundreds of users if no thousands report it and the BMW seats quiet. Anyone who experienced the Mini stalling at the middle of a intersection or in a heavy traffic knows that this is a life threatening issue. BMW - shame on you!
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
Glad to help & I agree. I can't imagine how many people have been in accidents & stranded from this. I'm sure there are thousands of mini's in scrap yards as well due to this little relay issue.
@StockMarketAnalysisEconomicsАй бұрын
I just bought a 2007 Cooper S Convertible-R52-and the headlights do not work, but the high beams do. I found a vix that involves the exact same thing described here to desolder the relay as they soldering is shoddy throughout all of the boards on these things. This video mysteriously showed up this morning and I figured I would watch it to see what other issues I will be having in the future. Seems consistent. Thanks for this.
@glennkelly5422 ай бұрын
This absolutely worked on my wifes R59, after getting towed for a HPFP failure according to the mecahnic. Replaced HPFP only to discover still no fuel. Found this video and had the exact same problem on the board. Repaired and now running again. Thank you so much.
@VetOnVettes2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! 👍🤙
@darylmartinez30554 ай бұрын
Hope to never have to do that! But good to know it can be done. Glad you took the plunge into it and sorry you had to! Electronic engineer for 45+ years and always hated repairs. Especially with sandwiched boards! Thanks!!
@Flat4_Matt Жыл бұрын
Just fixed this very issue after finding your video... A cracked solder joint, exactly the same as yours. Managed to get the whole thing done in an evening (was a bit harder to access being RHD!). Not a big job as you say, managed to get it out, apart, fixed and back in, all within a few hours. Fix wise, only did it at the weekend, but so far so good 👍 Thanks for taking the time to make the video, you are an absolute hero my man!
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
Outstanding. So glad I made this video. It's helped a lot of mini owners save time & money! It's been over 2 years since I've done this and my R56 still going strong 💪
@Flat4_Matt Жыл бұрын
@@VetOnVettes Just don't spill that coffee in the footwell! 👍
@patrikjankai4583 Жыл бұрын
Thank you soooooooooooo much. I was about to remove the fuel pump. Then I saw your video and it was exactly the right diagnosis. It took less than 2 hours and the mini is running well again. Thank you very much.
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I am really glad I ended up making this video. It has helped sooo many people at their wits end. It's definitely a frustrating flaw that MINI should address.
@chonorof2 жыл бұрын
Well after fighting this issue for about 6 months and calling my mini all sorts of bad names. I replaced the Hi-Pressure fuel pump, the low-pressure fuel pump and both relays on the JBE board. I also has some defective coil issues (after market - supposed to be high end units, I guess not). I also had an alternator fail during this time! I finally saw your you tube and gave it a try! I tested the theory before I tried the board... I bypassed the connector on the low pressure pump and inserted 12V from the rear power (powers off with the ignition) socket and it ran flawlessly for over a week. oh and the solder joint on mine made yours look good. 😀
@lanceuppercut24832 ай бұрын
Spot on with the fix. That lousy relay had one dry terminal. I was afraid to do all of the cutting but it was not bad at all. Thank a million
@juliemcclung49542 жыл бұрын
I think ever used Mini owner, or mini owner in general can agree with how you feel in the beginning of the video. Got my 09 a year ago and the first year was rough. We are going through another rough patch right now, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. 🤣
@evantaur2 жыл бұрын
as long as it's not check engine light...
@ashishm885011 ай бұрын
My Mini died in a similar manner today as I was pulling out of the kids school 😰. Imagine the mayhem that would have ensued had the car not rolled off safely across the road to the right. Gave me a big scare. Will keep a watch for the next few days.
@dk-fn1dq3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! My R56 started stalling with no CEL's this summer. Mine was frustrating as it was only driven for short trips and therefore might go hundreds of miles in between episodes. But they were always the same. Engine just lost power and stalled when it had just been running great. I pulled the JBE out last night and sure enough one solder joint was broken and the trace was starting to get dark from the heat. Thanks to you I was able to complete the repair in under an hour. The nearest dealer for me is 300 miles so this really was a miracle. In hindsight I think I would have changed the repair a little. Once the pins are cut the sections would be easy to heat up and pull out. I think I would have just replaced them with some solid core wire. They moved around on me alot and it was hard to tell when I had good contact between them. Time will tell if this fixes my issue but I was thrilled to see that solder joint after cutting the board apart. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to post this. One other point. Pull the large black relay before trying to remove the plastic casing.
@VetOnVettes3 жыл бұрын
Nice man! I'm glad this video has helped a lot of people and saved you guys a ton of money. As far as the repair I agree. I threw it back together with mixed feeling on whether or not it would work. 🤷🏼♂️. It's been almost a year. Still good to go!
@martinclark1411 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this, only did this repair yesterday (still undergoing testing on the road) but definitely had a crack on the solder at the relay part of the board. Will update when more testing done but all symptoms pointer to this anyway, cheers
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
Outstanding. So glad I made this video out of anger 😂. It's solved at least 50 people's problems. Please leave an update 👍🤙
@NP-kc5qd3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, I have a r57 with the same issue. I was about to start changing all kinds of parts, I’ll give this a go. Also, as a dealer technician, I know this would cost a client well over $1,500 +! You’re the man!!!! I’ll let you know how it went. Thanks again:)
@NP-kc5qd3 жыл бұрын
Update, took my JBE apart, found the relay pin burnt. Thank you so much! Ordering a used JBE
@VetOnVettes3 жыл бұрын
Nice man. Welcome. 🤘👍
@mikeh.81552 жыл бұрын
@@NP-kc5qd where did you order????
@NP-kc5qd2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeh.8155 eBay Used unit, make sure you match the number
@MrNeilAlan Жыл бұрын
Your video was terrific. I fixed my 2014 Mini Cooper S Convertible. I bought a JBE module from the junkyard to practice on. I would recommend. Get the junction box open can cause some board damage. Thank you for the video.
@mikecullins21002 жыл бұрын
I am so happy to see this video. I have been having the same issue and haven't been able to track it down. Replaced fuel pump and filter already. Will check this weekend.
@travisogden16612 жыл бұрын
Hello again. So the Mini ran great for three months, then died on my son again. Decided I better go through with looking at that relay after all. Sure enough, the pin on the relay looked like crap. Touched up the solder, then everything went to hell. Had a terrible time with putting those cut pins back together, and ended up messing up one of the solder traces in the process. Did find another used assembly on eBay and got it installed. So far, so good. Hope it doesn't have the same issue, but next time I will try to cut the pins more in the middle, and be more careful. It definitely isn't easy, but I believe it would have taken care of the random dying problem. Thanks for your help.
@bobturner6255 Жыл бұрын
Hey Thanks. Glad you are immersed in Mini fun. Bad fun cars. I have a lot of Mini customers in the shop frustrating way to make a living.
@EliasAnto11 ай бұрын
You’re an absolute legend! Had the same issue. Followed your instructions and now all fixed and working. Thank you 🙏
@VetOnVettes11 ай бұрын
Oh hell yeah! I love seeing these comments. I'm really glad I made that video. 🤙👍
@craigharley23867 ай бұрын
Yes!!! My fuse box gets hot and it starts “clicking” when turn the air conditioner, barely any clicking. So after a couple days I found a couple sites to purchase a reconditioned fuse box that’s compatible. So I will replace it, and look at the board, repair with a soldering iron and keep as a backup.
@mindazwerin8056 Жыл бұрын
I literally just bought a new (used) Mini and this happened. I thought I had a lemon and now I have hope! Thank you!
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Please keep me posted.
@DieselBakedBean Жыл бұрын
Thank you !!. About to take my ute and trailer to town to collect my wife's R56 Cooper S. I diagnose fuel pressure or crank angle sensor by how it behaves in the carpark. Based on internet research, I'm very confident this will be it. Great video. Thanks
@norainet Жыл бұрын
Man you saved my car. Three days ago the engine stalled 3 times, random speeds,.... so I did remove the box, cut the 30 pins, and same thing, relay pin was not ok.... Now two days on and it runs ok :) Thanks
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
Awesome 😎
@norainet Жыл бұрын
Two days later and the car stalled again !!!!!! 😤
@mta356214 күн бұрын
@@norainet Did you find or fix the problem. Just wonder if you have to get back in JBE again
@DavidJackson-zg5my8 ай бұрын
Glad I ran across this video shipmate, been troubleshooting this problem for a day and a half and now this makes perfect sense.
@VetOnVettes8 ай бұрын
Hell yeah 👍🤙. Keep me posted
@flycatchful3 жыл бұрын
Had a similar problem on a Mercedes 2002 SLK 320 left taillight assembly. Many solutions listed on UTube but none fixed the problem permanently. Save yourself time and money by replacing the fuse assembly. I did the same thing with the taillight. You will find out this fuse assembly is used on other minis' that did not have an issue like the individual in this video has. it is all about the production run of the vendor of this assembly. In the case of my SLK 320 I replaced the original taillight assembly with one made in 2001. That was three years ago and it is still working. I got my taillight off of EBay and you can do the same with the fuse assembly. Just get the part number and match it to a used one. I paid $53 USD when an OEM was $259 dollars.
@Galenki Жыл бұрын
Started to have the same issue this month on a 2010 R57 with 250k km , dying silently (not the usual stall you can feel) at stops/roundabouts when it's rather hot outside, and at least after 30min driving on a cold start. Works really well otherwise. Started with a timing chain rattle at 180k km, and that's where i'm at now with -4000$ in my wallet after all i've done on it. Can't wait to fix this and have a head gasket to do in a couple 10k's, or what else. Still gonna check around for other things that could cause this, but i guess this is it sadly. Thanks a lot for the video.
@xolanigama83814 жыл бұрын
Great video. fortifies my research on the issue as i has similar sypmtoms. most forums revealed it was the relay as per your video. i will be working on mine next week hopefully.
@VetOnVettes4 жыл бұрын
Nice man. Let me know if you have any questions!
@kawa17553 жыл бұрын
Oddly mine did not have enough solder. That was my issue
@lisan.54533 жыл бұрын
Did you say you replaced the fuel pump? Can't hear it well in that part of the video. Having issues with my 2011 R56 S. Turning off after engine low power light. Car shop says its the JBE Module.
@VetOnVettes3 жыл бұрын
No, I did not replace the fuel pump (sorry for the confusion). It very well may be something as simple as the fuel pump relay. I did this fix almost a year ago she still good to go. Its crazy, if took it to a shop they would have spent 2 weeks diagnosing it and 3k to fix it. Literally fixed it for free in an hour. 🤦♂️🤷🏼♂️
@billjackson4786Ай бұрын
Question: I'm having a similar problem on my R55. Start it, runs great, then cuts off randomly. I put my scanner on it and read the values for the high and low pressure fuel lines. When this happens the LP fuel pressure is constant at 75PSI. The HP pressures are 750PSI in the pump and ~100 on the rail. I hesitate to blame the LP fuel pump or the relay since the low pressure remains rock solid at 75PSI. So I had the HPFP rebuilt by a reputable place that has lots of on-line positive reviews on their web site and the mini forums. thoughts?
@hagnik3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. 2006 cooper S, sounds like the same problem. Already replaced the fuel pump and filter. Any idea if I should be able to hear a click or something from the RELAY when it's working properly? I bought a new one. After going through all that trouble I will just replace it.
@festus-pl3tyАй бұрын
Hello, I have a mini cooper s R52, 2006. It stalls, cranks but no start. If I replace a new DME, it starts fine. But once I switch off engine. It won't start again. The vehicle has shut down 3. DME. What can I do?
@koshthekernel Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for such a brilliant solution! That's exactly what it was. Will keep you posted once is all back together.🤗
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!
@nxa.sketch2 жыл бұрын
Does this affect newer models too?? I have a 2015 paceman and it shut down a couple of days ago... no warning lights or anything. Could it be the same issue?
@princep90513 жыл бұрын
Hi buddy's I'm in deep trouble. One mini cooper starting trouble but cranking ok. Fault code is High pressure fuel plausibility pressure too low. What is the complaints ?. Any realy or high pressure pumb. High pressure pumb is very expensive. We don't have spare pumb. Please give me some suggestion
@L.os1232 жыл бұрын
I have no code and it dies on me and it also has no strength while pushing pedal. I am still trying to find what is the real deal, due that they are charging me for a transmission issues. So I am doing my research better. I am thankful for this videos, hoping to find it.
@jasondominguez84342 жыл бұрын
Do a fuel pressure test, Compression test & spark test to find the problem
@georgebarnes45612 жыл бұрын
I have a question when your car would stall. Did the rpms drop very low and then struggle and then shut off? Because this is what I’m experiencing I wonder if this could fix my mini finally!!!
@bad89coupe Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing what you found! So many videos are just left with searching for problems!
@brandonwagner86023 ай бұрын
Did you have to reset the battery IBS or anything after doing this? I attempted this the other day on a 2013 Mini Cooper S and when I started the car back up afterwards, the tach and fuel gauges are not working and the car will not shift out of park.
@arkangelnorthman3 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Just found your video! I am going to check this out on my mothers car. Its a MINT 2004. She has been through hell with this car. I did all the "dealer" recommended fixes...new fuel pump and filter...new gas cap...new computer...new head valves and rockers....i found a ring etched in the cylinder wall on cylinder 2...so used lower end installed....after 6 months off the road....IT STILL WOULD JUST DIE!!!! took to mini dealer an hour away....they diagnosed new pugs and new coil(it had a new Mopar coil since it's a damn dodge neon engine!) they said mini coils are better...lol!! STILL DIES!!! if I try your fix and it works.....I OWE YOU ONE!! FINGERS CROSSED!!
@G00B4LIFE2 жыл бұрын
did it work for you?
@arkangelnorthman2 жыл бұрын
@@G00B4LIFE no....totally different on her year.
@sharonkendrick98987 ай бұрын
Did you find out what the issue was? I also have a 2004 that has randomly died a few times.
@arkangelnorthman7 ай бұрын
@@sharonkendrick9898 YES!! i found a factory defect in one cylinder.....a groove all the way around( not up and down).....after mini dealerships and private mechanics ALL misdiagnosed it over and over!! over a year and thousands of dollars.....luckily i saw it because the piston was down and the head was off.. so sad... mini did NOTHING for my mother!!
@stgmatuning5 ай бұрын
When it would stall, was your gas pedal working? Or did it cut off the gas pedal?
@flymo39655 ай бұрын
Great video @VetOnVettes, I am just wondering if you still have the car and the problem is still resolved? My 2005 Cooper is doing similar so I will be looking at this this weekend.
@VetOnVettes5 ай бұрын
Yes sir. 3.5 years later and going strong since the fix 💪🤙
@jklstewart Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to confirm it's the low pressure fuel pump that is causing the problem, before pulling the card and soldering?
@goclunker8 ай бұрын
Hey man, I don't know where to ask, but you seem to be an r56 expert. My fan doesn't come on. I replaced the fan with a new one. New coolant temp sensor. Seems to be working and reading the right temps. Hard starting stopped. Issue is when the temp sensor is plugged in, the fans do not come on at all. With the sensor unplugged the fan comes on full blast and stays on. So, the circuit works, the fan works and the sensor works. Could it be the AUX waterpump? For now, unplugging the temp sensor means it won't overheat, but it will run in limp, poorly. Thoughts?
@paulbone53483 жыл бұрын
Had a similar issue on the same fuse panel. Lost power to the cabin blower motor and turned out to be an over heated spade terminal. The cause of the over heat was a low resistance circuit within the blower fan itself because over time the carbon dust from the motor brushes had completely coated the insulating material holding the brushes allowing a low resistance path to the motor metalwork. Cleaned the insulator up, cleaned the spade terminal on the fuse board up and blower now works fine again.
@derekkchung2 жыл бұрын
That relay is for low pressure or hight pressure fuel pump? I wonder why no code. Usually it should give some low pressure codes.
@freddy1jumper58 Жыл бұрын
P10EE Low fuel rail pressure sensor. And the I have the same issues as described.. Hmm?
@rydevip36782 жыл бұрын
I am having same problem, I replaced the fuse panel with a used one, still no luck, and it won’t let me connect to ews module for some reaso.
@kevingonzales77835 ай бұрын
Hello do you have a part number for the entire junction box not just the relay?
@SharonMartinez Жыл бұрын
I have a 2009 MINI Cooper convertible with about 59K miles and a mobile mechanic changed the fuel filter and now the MINI will not start. Initially, I was having no trouble. I just was trying to be a good MINI owner and get the fuel filter changed since I do not believe that it had been done before. Any ideas what happened and how this can be fixed? I believe that the fuel pump is fine. There were never any symptoms of it failing. I think that something happened with the filter change.
@chaddelgado34787 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video! It solved my problem! BUT now one my rear windows does not roll down.. I have an R57. Any idea how to resolve? It must be something with the JBE right? Thank you!
@robenhoward33083 жыл бұрын
this part number does not look like the one in your video . I am looking it up wrong?
@hyscar12623 жыл бұрын
Hey man i really need your help. After changing fuel filter and new oem pump the problem was the same with yours...but mine was a little black on the solder point not just cracked. I took it apart and i resoldered it and then i did all the connections between the relay board and the other piece. But once i put it back in the car i get all kind of service notifications on the board like steering wheel, abs, power windows etc the car cranks but does not start....its like no power going to the pump. Do you think i should change the relay of the pump as well ?
@VetOnVettes3 жыл бұрын
I would highly advice to replace the relay. They are super cheap. You probably have a bad relay in conjunction with bad solder points. Also make sure you are careful when soldering the board back together. Take your time. If anything is shorted you will get all sorts of weird errors etc.
@hyscar12623 жыл бұрын
So i did replace the relay and the car runs like never before !!!!! No more stalling while driving !! I could never imagine this might be the problem. Thanks for the video you helped a fellow DYI driver 👍
@koshthekernel Жыл бұрын
So far the repair is holding up. No longers stalls. But we are gonna drive it at least 150 miles before we put the covers back on. However we have another issue that you may be able to shed some light. I dont know how to contact you other than you tube so I'll post it here. The rear lights are not coming on when turning the headlights at night. They only come on when applying the breaks. Signal lights OK. Fog lights OK. Two of the parking lights are also not comning on and one license plate light is also not coming on. I tested the lights bulbs and sockets. They are all fine. After doing some research it looks like the FRM foot module is the issue. As the baterry dies once and we had to jump it once which may have cause the issue. The closest cooper dealership is 6 hrs away and no one close will touch it. Mini suggested taking it to a BMW dealer 45 mins away. They will harge 200 just to troubleshoot and God knows how much for programming it. There are places that will program it for you on the web assuming the unit is not damaged. Is sending the module out a good idea or should I spend some needed cash at the dealership? Comments welcome!!😉
@juanatilano7982 жыл бұрын
This fixed it on my 2010 r56 thank you so much sir for your video
@VetOnVettes2 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@criscolon76393 ай бұрын
I need to try this tomorrow wish me luck thank you for all the information i also got a new fuel pump and high presure fuel pump and filter 😢 so much money spent.
@ega_srb9156 Жыл бұрын
I have 2003 cooper 1.4d, I have random stall problems, sometimes 5 times in only few miles, could this also be the issue on mine?
@bobbys63642 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to desolder the pins between the boards rather than cut them?
@DarrylHarris-u8k Жыл бұрын
VetOnVettes757, have you had this problem? I am working on a neighbor's 2009 Mini Cooper. It sat and the battery died otherwise it started normally before. I installed a new battery. The car will not start. The start button will not depress. Is there any reason other than a bad start button that will not let the button depress? My tools are being shipped so I have a few screwdrivers and a pair of pliers.
@bernardleatmon1216 ай бұрын
I love this.... my wife's car did the same exact thing.... I will no doubt follow your technique... Thx Bro
@IFixCrap20942 жыл бұрын
I have an R60 and I’ve been having issues with the front wipers not working at all. Everything has been checked wiring, relays, connectors, column switch and everything seems fine but still the junction fuse box is not sending ground to the wipers relays. Could this be a similar issue? Or related to the JBE at all?
@tm5346 Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe I’m watching again your brave& u giggling dont be scared! Lol I really hope this doesn’t happen!
@travisogden16613 жыл бұрын
Having the same problem with my son's 09 S-model. I am going to do your procedure, but am a little confused about what you did when you cut the pins and seperated the boards. Do they get resoldered together where you cut them when putting it back together, or what? Maybe it will be clear when I pull it out, but I wanted to get a better idea beforehand. Thanks for the vid, it gives me a starting point to fix this problem child.
@VetOnVettes3 жыл бұрын
Yes, re-solder where you cut them.
@travisogden16613 жыл бұрын
@@VetOnVettes Ordered the relay (from China) so it will be a month or so before that comes in. Debated whether we wanted to just check the soldering, but for now decided to wait and hopefully only have to go through it once. Thanks a lot for your help.
@mohageli358 Жыл бұрын
Please please tell me if this apply to r50 have the Sam issue and yesterday no start I know it’s not the pump nor relay. I took fuse box a part And pressure relay is not the Sam as years. So I stopped. Please advice and buy three Coffee
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
I do not believe this would fix the R50.. however, the R50 is known to have bad grounds from the battery to the chassis (near the passenger motor mount) I would start there. 👍👍
@sharonkendrick98987 ай бұрын
my r50 is having a similar problem. what ended up being the issue and how did you fix?
@MegaZewe3 жыл бұрын
Hey what kind of error codes did you have when you got this issue?? i have the same issue car just dies and after about 30 minutes to an hour it works again. the erros i got was: 2BE9, Cylinder injection shutdown: Low pressure in the high pressure system. 2C57, low charging pressure and/or not plausible Mine is a 2013 R57 with a N18
@VetOnVettes3 жыл бұрын
I didn't get any codes. That was the most infuriating part. I'm not 100% sure this is applicable to the N18. But if it has the low pressure fuel pump relay in the same place then it very well may be
@aviatorian5348 Жыл бұрын
When your car died did it throw a half power engine light because mine is driving fine when it wants then randomly will die then starts right back up
@MalcolmRowley11 ай бұрын
2013 R60, the sound JUST went. Number 5 wire.... what do i do with it? Is it the connector, if so which end?
@disliked03 ай бұрын
2013 starts and runs for about 10 minutes then dies. Thinking this maybe the issue? I hope.
@JoseMendez-wo1cb Жыл бұрын
Hi I have an R52 2005 Mini Cooper with a similar problem. Should I look into doing this board repair?
@robertoloyola66233 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I hope you may help me with my problem, I have a f56 1.5turbo 2017, I'm having intermittent problems with my low pressure fuel pump, sometimes it delivers, mostly it doesn't. Do you think I could have the same problem? Thanks in advance
@BruceLeeRacing2 жыл бұрын
So, I just followed the EXCELLENT directions in the video and replaced the low pressure fuel pump relay and it drives much better, no stalling, problem fixed! However, after reinstalling the unit the and then the battery after days of being disconnected, the turn signals do not work and the car tells me doors are ajar when they are closed. Anyone know what to do next?
@RigsGOCsuncity8 ай бұрын
My daughter's 2011 Cooper S was randomly shutting off while driving, wait a bit then started again. Removed and repaired jbe, and after reinstall the car would crank, no start. I replaced battery and ordered a new jbe. Installed new jbe and same issue, crank, no start. Car now shows no fuel, Service light, ABS light, and Tire pressure light all on dash. Power Windows and locks don't work. OBDII says it can not communicate. Any suggestions?
@FrankKinlan8887 ай бұрын
Have the footwell module reflashed , you then need to clear the codes.
@chaddelgado34787 ай бұрын
Hello - how did you get your issue resolved?
@RigsGOCsuncity7 ай бұрын
@@FrankKinlan888 You are correct. Found a local mechanic who works on Mini that took care of it for me.
@RigsGOCsuncity7 ай бұрын
@@chaddelgado3478 Found a local mechanic to clear codes and flash module. Couldn't do it with my OBII reader. He connected to the car and did his thing, car started right up, everything worked.
@ariacolby43803 жыл бұрын
Other people are saying the fuel pump relay could be the problem. But only a dealer can program this. Would changing the whole JBE take care of this? And would this be something I can do myself or am I going to be forced to total the car as the labor on this, I understand, will be almost more than the value of the car.
@zoss012 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. Is "ep2f b3g1s" engine N18 compatible?
@ivarcantu764011 ай бұрын
I have a 2011 mini Cooper sport did the whole engine timing chain injectors. Also high-pressure fuel pump not just one but three and turbo mechanic still says it’s the high-pressure fuel pump car turn on maybe five minutes later turns off give it a few minutes maybe 30 minutes comes on, but it will only last 5 to 10 minutes . I spent over $6000 this past month on it and I’m tired. It’s a great car but I can’t find anybody to fix it. Is there a way that I can email you some videos so you can take a look at the videos
@anthonybelyea1964 Жыл бұрын
Yes it's a love-hate relationship sometimes minis really suck especially the brittle plastic parts after they get 10 years old but there are a lot of fun cheers from Atlantic Canada👍😎🇨🇦
@timgibbs47623 жыл бұрын
My 2012 R58 JCW with a N-14 engine starts when cold or warm but not when hot. It never cuts out when driving. When hot it does not crank at all. Is that the problem you had?
@VetOnVettes3 жыл бұрын
It very well may be. Mine would refuse to start when hot when it was doing this. Let it cool down for an hour and it would start right up.
@drummerdonniedotcom2 жыл бұрын
Just curious... Was there a reason you didn't just remove the solder from the posts and then resolder them back on the board? As opposed to cutting all the posts and then soldering the halves back together?
@katiewhalen8503 Жыл бұрын
Please respond this is a great question
@xnoitulos Жыл бұрын
Above post from Ess Bee says he tried "...After removing the fuse panel I tried to unsolder the pins that join the boards together but abandoned that ideas as the boards are soldered on both sides and the pin solder joints are covered with a waterproof coating. So I clipped them as you did..."
@jamesvorhis9830 Жыл бұрын
Good video. So i have a 2010 that was running great. One day it died out like you have said but it will not start back up. It just cranks and cranks. I want to fix the JBE but its weird because it wont start at all like yours would. I put power to the LPFP and it runs. So pump is good. Weird thing is when i put a power probe to the fuel pump and turn it on it still wont start.
@rickwilson83543 жыл бұрын
I'm having a problem with my Mini Cooper the key broke awhile back and I duct-tape the little sensor on to it at work fine for about a year I got into start at 1 morning it wouldn't start went to the dealership bought a $200 key finally started up it run good for 3 days and then it just act like it won't start and like it's you can smell a little gas just barely faint and I don't know if it's flooding or what but they told me all it needed was a key and I still haven't got it running help help help
@Timber81 Жыл бұрын
Foot Well Module Recall on 2010 to 2013. I just got the letter. My 2010 stalls. I did everything Utube said to do, including cut open the junction box!
@troybone6849 Жыл бұрын
Man I think you just fixed my dad's mini lol he's been at wit's end with this thing for over a year
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍🤙😎
@javiereaton60833 жыл бұрын
I like the introduction spot on ....
@koshthekernel Жыл бұрын
Hi. We have a similar problem. We took it to a mechanic and they replaced both gas pumps. The main one and the one in the tank. Still getting the same stalls and the Cooper will die. Only after several minutes it will start again. Engine light wil come on. The techs at the repair shop couldnt duplicate it. But every time we took it for a spin to go to Walmart, it will do it. Whats creepy about it was it will stall and die exactly in the same street. It did it 4 times. Same symptoms. We have driven ot 130 on and off and hasnt done it yet, but Im afraid if we go to Walmart it will do it again. The code would read P0087 Fuel Rail / System Pressure too low. Do you think we have the same issue? A reply would be appreciated....😉
@VetOnVettes Жыл бұрын
You definitely have all of the hallmarks of a bad solder joint. Mine would stall at the same locations as well, once the board would heat up the solder joint would expand & boom Car would shut down. Given you have replaced both fuel pumps with the same symptoms I would say it's very likely. If you have a 2007-2011 it's extremely common.
@freddy1jumper58 Жыл бұрын
This is my next venture. My code says low fuel sensor pressure like yours,, DID you erase this error after? Yes my car is having same stalls now and wont start at all now.. I think the solder is toast completly now. Let me know. thanks
@freddy1jumper58 Жыл бұрын
My 2011 is acting like your vid and I also have the low pressure sensor error. Hope this is fixed as well??? @@VetOnVettes
@koshthekernel Жыл бұрын
@@freddy1jumper58 I have not have a chance to clear the code. We were waiting to reach 130 miles before we can say it worked. We have to take the copper to BMW to have a new FRM module, timing belt, battery and other repairs done. Is still in the shop. We dont have a Mini dealer here. The closest one is 6 hrs away. Once we get it back unless the dealer does it I'll let you know. Are you gonna try VetOnVettes757 solution? You may want to order the relay before you do. Our board did not show any signs of burns so we assumed the relay was ok.
@oscarrocha71492 жыл бұрын
Got a 07 mini s turns over just won’t start done added gas need help or advise
@LuisAMartinezcarrion-ef4hx4 ай бұрын
Where can I buy the fuel pump relays
@nickmalone3380 Жыл бұрын
We have exactly the same issue, done what you’ve suggested and still the same 😫 any other ideas? We’ve changed every sensor we can think of on the engine 🤦♂️
@nexuswmv Жыл бұрын
My r58 is not cranking again after replacing fuel pump.
@lynnplatero8752 Жыл бұрын
Having the same issue with my 2015 R60, do you think this would correct the problem?