Somehow it got WORSE...

[@edcancade9025]

Every NHL team loves playing the Habs. If you are in a slump, Mtl will find a way to give you a win.

[@slgreidanus]

Primeau is not a major concern for Mtl. He's likely not going to be there, Dobes will be given his chance as Fowler is likely heading to Laval. Dobes might be brought up early if Fowler ends university, signs and goes straight to Laval. Primeau and Montembeault are likely both gone in 3 yrs. Habs not making the playoffs this year and it won't be because of the goaltending. So people need to chill on Primeau, he's a backup making 900k.

[@lubosgombos582]

Honestly I just gave up I think MSL didn't wanted slaf to be MTL 1st pick cuz this is ridiculous how he treat him at this point literally hating him not training him last season second half of it was good beginning of this one good until MSL fucked it up again not only for slaf but for suz-cole-slaf line when they were producing pretty much point per game each I just gave up how tf MSL still think he's doing good job coaching 😢

[@lubosgombos582]

Punishing dach or slaf or others all the time but matheson never got sat down on bench or put on different line he might be 8 but definitely not great 8 like ovechkin I mean he's not terrible player but always turning over puck or shooting through everyone rather than passing to someone else

[@iAMakaMaxPower]

Heineman 4th for rookie goals.

[@oldhab7890]

Listened to the game on the radio - old school I know. I kept track of how often Dach was mentioned. Twice. The first time was when the announcers wondered what he was doing on the Coyle goal (Bruins 4th). The only other time he was mentioned making a pass. Not sure why people believe in him. Primeau needs to be sent to Laval to see if he can find his game. No issue with him clearing waivers. Although it would be extremely fortunate if he was claimed.

[@yokohamalion5101]

Primeau has no game.

[@adamCarter20]

I don't believe in Dach anymore, want him gone

[@tonylloy327]

Dach does nothing but hurt us. He's so bad that if he was out of the lineup we'd be better by subtraction. Same for Newhook. If only we could have back what HuGo gave away to acquire them.

[@peterpeterson5550]

I'll never forget video from 2022 Draft when Chicago traded Dach to Montreal for 1st round (13 overall) and 3 round picks. The fans went nuts from excitement and said ... What a steal 😂

[@oldhab7890]

@@peterpeterson5550 I liked the trade at the time. But Dach's injury has clearly diminished his talent to being subNHL The trade is not the issue it is being pigheaded about not admitting Dach is no longer able to be a 2nd line centre in the NHL.

[@DanSmokey-i8w]

I don't think anyone expected the Habs to win today on their second back to back of the week. However, it only seems they start to actually play after they fall behind by a few goals. That is what is discouraging.

[@markorr999]

I told you last year he cost us more games than he helped to win. Last year he finished with 60 pts but was a minus 26. And those minus points game with games on the line when we were on a comeback. He is a serious drag on the team and not someone you want teaching young D. ALL the young guys are expected to make those kinds of errors not a veteran like Mike M. With the waaay Heineman is playing I would like to see him play with Laine (LW) and Dach at center (Dach was always touted as a playmaker not a goal scorer) with an elite goal scorer on both sides of Dach that could be an impressive line. GO HABS GO!

[@Full.Time.Watcher]

Matheson has how many turnover with the habs 3671 ?

[@HabsTypeBeat]

Matheson is awesome but he had a terrible game

[@Full.Time.Watcher]

@HabsTypeBeat cap+glazing

[@paulshea3728]

3671 was just last night.

[@quintingauthier]

There’s a reason why Pittsburgh swapped Matheson for an expired Jeff Petry & it’s showing… And don’t get me started on Primeau my ******* God 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@doubllechief6926]

We keep making the warm and fuzzy move instead of the shrewd and competitive one. 1. Not drafting Michkov because “he didn’t want to play for us” or because “he had too many red flags”. Idc, you have to take that risk when that talent is available. 2. We didn’t trade Matheson when his value was the highest. With his contract and him finally putting together a really strong season, we should have traded him but didn’t because “we have to have somebody back there” and “we’re too young”. We could have got a haul for him in the offseason.

[@MD76MAC]

Alot of teams feel stupid now for passing on Michkov. Dude is crazy good.

[@memphissander3512]

The one thing you don't do on the rush during a PK is MISS THE NET & Matheson DUMPED IT while 3 people were deep for an easy 2-on-1, thanks to Savard for bailing him out BIG TIME. I think the 60 point season went to his head

[@HabsTypeBeat]

Every player has boneheaded plays from time to time.

[@mikeking-t2u]

Matheson gave Mcavoy a perfect breakaway pass resulting in a goal then another dumb pass resulting in a 2 on 1 which thankfully they didn’t score on, yet people shit on Jackeye lol or blame Primeau? Start making Matheson accountable ffs!!

[@spyrrex_7541]

He fumbled the puck and lost his man on the 2nd and 3rd goal too. He was directly responsible for 3 goals. I like him but today he had one of the worst games I've seen.

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

Matheson has more assists on other teams goals then he does on mtl goals

[@jjevans1693]

3 out of 4 points when Matheson was out.

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

@@jjevans1693 i said 100 times to trade matheson and barron in the offseason, everyone argued with me on it , we should never of traded kovacevic

[@bobgomez9249]

Please bring up Dobes, the season is fu**** anyway we have nothing to lose, tanking is not worth it. Great work guys, another good video.

[@samsav0434]

yes tanking is worth it we need top 5 picks dont kid yourself

[@AKmumu]

I would try Heineman on the 1st line instead of newhook

[@cornellbubush]

Why? Does not have that level. It would be another Newhook.

[@LethalTobinator]

@@cornellbubushI like Newhooks compete level, but he’s a utility player for the 3rd line. Heineman has shown to have a great NHL release. Habs need size up front.

[@AKmumu]

@cornellbubush ennemy players would have to defend against 2 dangerous shot instead of only caufield, it would open the ice up a little bit, newhook doesnt contribute much on that line

[@Purpgo]

I’ll say it once and I”ll say it again please god no more hutson matheson tandem

[@richardlavinskas5463]

Remember when Caufield stunk the place out when Ducharme was the coach? And then with MSL coming on board , all of a sudden Caufield was scoring at a 50 goal/year pace ? Imagine how stupid it would have been for habs management to give up on Caufield at the time. But thank goodness they DID NOT press the panic button at that time as now he is so great that he is a leading goal scorer in the world! I believe that players like Dach, Newhook will turn their games around soon, just like Caufield did. It would be the absolute stupidest thing in the world to throw in the towel with many of these Habs players. ..My whole point is that instead of panicking , the habs and habs fans should just chill and let things play out . Our patience will be rewarded. Montreal will be a great team soon enough..

[@heyoou]

you're dreaming. The good players have success in this league by showing skill and not necessary scoring but getting shots on goal or preventing goals by sticking to their man from scoring. Dach and Newhook will only be 4th line players from where I sit. Dach has been in the league 5 years minus last year's injury and he has not produced or improved. To have blind faith is just fooling yourself. Look at Caulfield and how he plays in real time and you can't say he is not an asset to any team. He scores and is skillful. Same for Hutson and Suzuki. How can Gallagher play with toughness and good hockey IQ for a small guy that doesn't have speed while Dach has size but no imagination or toughness.

[@adamCarter20]

You sound like the same fans that said, give Drouin time, he's gonna be great, give KK time, he's gonna be great

[@HabsandExposFan]

@@heyoou You have very limited hockey knowledge, and are wrong. Try reading a bit of Brian Wilde, maybe Eric Engels, and perhaps you'll learn to see beyond the tips of your toes and understand not only how a real rebuild works, but how impatience on young players is the most immature stance flans and management can have. Sabres have up on Seinhart, I'Rielley, and Eichel. They have wons THREE CUPS, A CONN SMYTHE, LEADING PLAYOFF SCORER, AND CUP WINNING GOASL SCORER, since. Sabres stuck in a 14 year rebuild, Habs were crappy for 35 years, Your mindset would reproduce the same. Is that what you want? If not, then you need to learn, or summer down and be patient.

[@HabsandExposFan]

Exactly x 10000000000% Moronic short sighted fans can't see or understand that, and most never will.

[@tonylloy327]

​@@HabsandExposFanKinda petty to accuse @heyoou of having no hockey knowledge just because he disagrees with you. There are a lot of excellent hockey minds who saw the same things in Dach and Newhook, and eagerly shipped them out to us when they had the opportunity. Is Sakic a hockey moron? No, I don't think so either. And you can't seriously compare the Eichel situation to Dach or Newhook. He was *always* putting up points and contributing huge in Buffalo. The questions they had were about his leadership skills...not about whether he might ever top 30-40 points in a season like is very questionable for Dach/Newhook. Both are 3rd line players at the very best. And can't be 4th-line, because 4th-liners need to play with some kind of heart.

[@Nikitamc88]

Nice touch with the goal video. Podcasts are missing this

[@TOGazza]

The whole team shut down for 70 seconds there. Heineman is a keeper. Got some good quick hands around the net. Does shy away from the tough stuff. Could he fit in with Laine upon his return??

[@matthewfast4817]

I think they should try a slafkovsky-dach-heineman line. I think that could work Put anderson back with evans & gallagher Unfortunately but that would have roy with dvorak and armia as the 4th line, which could work

[@kevinpassaglia940]

I believe HEINEMAN will take a roster spot, he's got some grit and can get some goals

[@Pyobum]

I've come to a point that I stopped watching the games, and listen to you guys + Junkie to keep up with the Habs. Saves myself 2hrs30mins each game.

[@adamCarter20]

I really hope Dach requests a trade, a millionaire can't take criticism, don't want that on the team.

[@joepallotta2879]

Marty doesn't know who their best players are,example Hudson gives you your best chance on the powerplay not Mathison,slaf should be on the first line,leave dack on 2nd line,newhook on 4th line,heinemen on 3rd line,Dvorak in minors,premeau in minors,dobes the back up,Hudson and gule your top pairing,dack Laine gally your 2nd line,Marty a smart guy needs to make these changes

[@comptegoogle511]

I can think of a few players who are not playing for the logo but are playing so as not to get injured and not jeopardize an exchange. Who would like to see Folwer's talent getting spoiled by St-Louis so-called hybrid defence system in the coming season?

[@legniak1]

Goaltending is awful and as much as I like St.Louis I don’t think he’s the right guy going forward

[@JosefDriemel]

i get Matheson makes mistakes but lets be honest here he does a lot for that team and his upside is huge. i don't think its fair to expect him to carry that defensive core at this point. for sure some questionable plays tonight but he is honestly a great defenseman

[@heyoou]

No he's not. He's like the rest of the team except for a select few. You can forgive players like Caulfield, Suzuki, and Hutson because although they make mistakes they make up for it by scoring and good hockey skills. Matheson should not get pick-pocketed so easily a few times in this game causing goals and then to give the puck away on that breakaway is just not smart for already a bad player. First Dach and now Matheson. 2 games in a row players make very costly and blundering mistakes to lose the game for their team. I've never seen a player so bad in a game.

[@russell7995]

Matheson and Newhook won't be there when the Habs are 'in the mix' let alone contending. The lack of heavy play by the team needs to be addressed by the GM acquiring players who play heavy and the coach who isn't showing them how to play heavy and hasn't had a philosophy of man first then the puck that is a hallmark of so many Stanley Cup Champions.

[@supergoujon4776]

Thanks guys.

[@MD76MAC]

Look at it this way. Y'all are a couple of losses away to being #1 in the Porter Martone sweepstakes. Guy is a beast.

[@matthewhawkins5760]

My fave matheson moment today, 3 habs go in the Bs zone on the pk, rims the puck around the boards to a bruin who then go on a 2 on 1. He's garbage

[@TomCrouchman.]

Top 5 pick, Getting rid of Matheson, Dvorak, Primeau and the incoming Demidov and Dobes and others will give us the chance to actually improve next year. This team needs a 2nd line Center and until it gets one we will be bottom 5.

[@xellossm8444]

Matheson quite the coach killer. Heineman has been a bright spot amongst rookies.

[@MrGlovesave33]

Get a certain vet rd , and an 8 to 10 tr tendy to help Monty. Move preems. Barron . Ghg

[@kevinboisvert5610]

I haven’t liked Matheson since early in his first year with Habs idk what people see in him

[@tonylloy327]

Oh, but c'mon...HuGo was brilliant to ger him in return for Petry...remember? 🤣

[@bcha1766]

Newhook should not be in the top 6, 5 points in 24 games and has been in the top 6 all season. That’s crazy, end the experiment, he’s a bottom 6 player. Also end the Primeau experiment, he isn’t an NHL calibre goalie. Giving up an average of 5 goals a game is throwing away wins every time he starts.

[@victormaxwellchannel]

Bogdan doing well in Russia. I think Conor Hughes as a backup to Monty next year.

[@DjZOE-X]

its not a 1 person problem ...its team problem... something is not clicking... we have the players, we have goood tending.....but as a unit they are not playing whistle to whistle..

[@johnsantos3943]

This rebuild year #3 we need to finish last or at least bottom 3 .A rebuild is 5to 6 years we have some great prospects that will be joining the big team in the next 1 -2 to 3 years that is when things will click and we will have unloaded Dvorak and Anderson as well as Armia all of this takes time.With a little bit of luck Laine will be health and producing.Making the playoffs right now is just not a good thing.I think next years things will start to fall in line

[@noworries7673]

What? Making the playoffs is a great thing! Anyway, no one is expecting them to make it there, but after 3 years they should be competitive enough to at least have a hope. Or do you think being a bottom feeder makes players like Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky or Dach better? What are they getting from this? They're just becoming professional losers.

[@HabsTypeBeat]

Wait faceoffs are why they see him as a 2c? That makes no sense there are multiple 1st line centres hovering around 45% at the dot.

[@royshroud9536]

How long until G coach Raymond starts taking heat for the state of Goaltending with the Canadiens? Or does the Chez Nous protection keep the heat away ?

[@bbwphantom]

Emil Heinaman should ton the 2nd line. Undisciplined play is their MO, who is surprised by this.

[@MrJprey]

The goaltending and offence could be better but the defense is the real problem. Much too soft. Collapses too quickly. Gives up too many high quality chances. Only one guy that strikes fear. Bringing in more offence will help but not enough pride in team defense.

[@paulshea3728]

This team needs real leadership from someone who Has actual coaching experience in the NHL...or are we training coaches for the future NHL.This madness must stop. The culture of losing, apparently it continues BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES.

[@JeanJames-ff3wx]

heres how i grade the habs so far this season (active) cauflied s+ suzuki a slafkovsky c- dach c matheson f- hutson b heinman a evans b anderson b- gally a+ ghule b+ struble d xhejak c savard b roy c- newhook b- dvorak d- barron f- momtembault a- and primeau swiss 🧀 d- forgot about dach but since he had a torn acl i grade him a b at best

[@GandalfAI69]

considering how Slaf is being utilized and moved up and down, he does not deserve a C- at all..

[@JeanJames-ff3wx]

@oogaboooga69 yeah but hes super slow he plays lazy hockey and hes 6 foot 3 guy but plays like a 5 foot 9 guy its always annoying

[@peterlaka1692]

@@JeanJames-ff3wx Slaf is the youngest player of the team. As 20 years old he still has less power than several years older players regardless of his size

[@HabsTypeBeat]

Can’t crap on Matheson without crapping on Hutson. Matheson had a bad game but it happens. Peoole are going to hate Hutson if this is there bar. All offensive defenseman make mistakes. Subban was the king of them.

[@kennethkingelin6437]

Don't expect much from Laine. He has played in a year. Similar to Dach

[@jameskritikos6838]

How is it possibly thought to be a good idea to pair up offensive defensemen with speed and agility who have defensive struggles and physicality limitations with other offensive defensemen with speed and agility who have defensive struggles and physicality limitations, and then slower stay at home type of defencemen with some physical upsides but offensive limitations paired together? What are the messages to the defencemen? You need defense pairings to "compliment" each other, with offset balance, not similarity. SMH.

[@tetraboom8730]

Primeau was swimming out of control way too much. Dobes please, it's hurting the team's confidence and moral.

[@tonylloy327]

Can we PLEASE PLEASE *PLEASE* take an objective look at everything and all just agree that Dach and Newhook are absolute disasters??? Dach...24 games, 8 points, 43% FO, -20. Newhook...24 games, 5 points, 43% FO, -10. Don't blame everything on Matheson. At least he occasionally shows something positive. Dach and Newhook are dragging us down horribly. And almost NEVER show anything remotely encouraging. HuGo's boys are a nightmare!!

[@noworries7673]

If you want to be objective then see the whole team is in deep sh... Talents are being squandered, years of players lifes are being wasted and their game is going one step forward, two steps back. I feel sorry for some of them because they'd have a stellar career where the focus is on success and development of talent. You need veteran star players to develop young star talents. MTL has exactly 0 veteran stars and keeps bringing in young "stars" only to frustrate the "stars" they brought in previously. But what do I know.

[@JoTheSnoop]

The insane levels of 'criticism' by a lot of fans (attacking messages etc) on players and even coaching staff has made me not wanting to criticise. As someone who has been bullied and felt unwanted by others for being 'different', I am concerned about players' mental health. If players' mental health deteriorates, then performance will sink further.

[@yokohamalion5101]

Lame

[@heyoou]

Why would their mental health decline when they're still paid millions to be mediocre. Professional athletes all know how this works. Praise for good skills, boos for bad skills. You really believe they have mental issues in the pros.

[@JoTheSnoop]

@@heyoou there is criticism then there is the outright bullying with messages etc. That is where the situation becomes worse. Yes, fans are getting annoyed with bad performance and/or lack of results - I get that (even I get annoyed myself). Personal attacks via social media accounts are not helpful nor are they warranted.

[@adamCarter20]

​@@JoTheSnoopoh boo hoo, then play better, shut the "bullies" up, I don't feel sorry for these millionaires, they knew what they were getting into when they got into this sport, man the hell up!

[@JoTheSnoop]

@@adamCarter20 as I said there is criticism then there is outright bullying which includes intimidation and even threats.

[@kevinpassaglia940]

Primeau should stay in his net. Over commits...and Matheson is having a tough year

[@davidgosselin1193]

Keep Primo in net. I want Martone, Sheaffer or Hagens

[@heyoou]

If you really think drafting these players will make a difference, you're fooling yourself.

[@dav4303]

I never thought we would make the playoffs this year as soon as Laine went down and then some of are top 6 didn’t play to expectations. Wanted Matheson traded during the summer while his value was up. Thought we should have gone after Askarov Hard as we had the forward prospects,picks and Matheson. Goalies are funny but the top ones usually are top and except for a few the regulars remain that way. I really wanted McGroerty also as tougher than our top prospects. Now think that was a Mistake. MSL is fine my only problem is when we lose and don’t play hard. We are definitely too soft. With what’s coming down the pipe we will still be soft. Our size is ok but our big guys don’t play with grit and that doesn’t help our small guys. Hugo has to get some true power forwards. So now we need LW,2nd line Center and a Stud Rd. To win the cup we need both talent and grit and mean all in the same player I don’t care if they are not big as long as they play big.

[@tonylloy327]

You're right about HuGo needing to bring in some guys who play like true power forwards. Coulda had Ross Colton for just ONE of the picks they sent to the Avs for Newhook. But they love their sad reclamation projects too much. It's lazy managing...hoping that if they bring in enough former high draft picks that one of them just might magically change course and live up to the potential they seemed to once have.

[@dandesjardins2552]

At this rate ...I hope Caufeild get 40+ and we getal first round pick

[@carlitoforest2891]

Now watch Hughes still sell Savard before Matheson...

[@atarimeejyaneeka]

Tank is going on. That's all. All good news

[@BobzUrUncle-te6dj]

The Habs have FIVE Defencemen who are 23 or YOUNGER. Plus, another member of the D-corps is pretty terrible. We also have SIX Forwards who are 23 or younger. Plus, we have sooo many INEFECTIVE Forwards on the team. If we didnt have CC, the Habs would have maybe 2 or 3 fewer wins. Either the Habs trade some of the younger talent for more skilled/effective players, or we all just relax and let this team develop (lose) on their own. There is NO magic wand that can FIX this team.

[@adamCarter20]

I give this team ONE more year to show major progress, if not, then the kind of future we all want, is gonna take A LOT longer, try 5-6 years.

[@BobzUrUncle-te6dj]

@@adamCarter20 Hey I kinda agree that if they let the kids develop without much change to the lineup, then things will absolutely take longer to turn around. I think six years might be a little too long, considering the potential talent pool we think we have, but I can see 3-4 year to become a playoff contender. The scary thing is that, with young players, even those seleted in the first two rounds, we just dont know for sure if they are gonna work out. If we look at the Oilers, its bizzare to me that McDavid has been in the NHL almost TEN years and has only been to the Cup Final once. Rebuilds take time. We might be looking at another significant number or years before we get to that point.

[@noworries7673]

At least Matheson did a good job on goal No.6 and confidently lied down in the o-zone.

[@simonsirois9034]

Hummm, I know I'm off topic...but how good Carey was huh? Habs biggest problem is goaltending, I love Montembeault but he's a # 2. Primeau is not NHL caliber. Too good for AHL not enough for the big league. The worst spot for a professionnal athlete. Sucks for him... 50% of fans said It was CP contract that was screwing things uo in MTL...YOU CAN'T WIN WITHOUT A TOP GOALIE. Don't throw at me one or two exception you're gonna find somewhere, you're not gonna change my mind. Every position is getting better. The priority is a goalie ( Fowler is too far away at this point) and unfortunatly that gd center line STILL!!!😤🤬 We'll get there, but we need another 2-3 years before having a contender squad in MTL.

[@GI-Joe]

we all humans and should treat each other as such you can hate but not acting like an animal

[@cornellbubush]

What did you expect? They played against Boston.

[@Slicky-14]

Let’s not forget down on one knee Savard! Caught on the first goal

[@mikeking-t2u]

Not a big fan of having Matheson and Hutson on the same pairing! MSL needs to split these 2 up! Neither get back when the other is caught or both caught at times

[@dwightharper2673]

MSL needs to go.

[@bbwphantom]

PS. I hope Cole doesn't make the USA team. Why risk getting him injured?

[@noworries7673]

Let's not be selfish. The world championships are an experience to remember for life and a lot of players really want to go. Let him go if he wants to go.

[@bondjames652]

Why not mention what a joke Slavkosky is? 1st PP unit as if he can do something with only 2 goals all year... KEEP HIM OUT THERE FIR WHAT?????

[@noworries7673]

Ah, another Slaf hater 😂 Look at the team stats. He played 21 games and is top 3 behind Suzuki and Caufield. He's the youngest too.

[@johnbourget4160]

One step forward three steps back it seems. Sorry to say it but we need better goaltending. Coming from a former goalie.

[@r_p_m7330]

Primeau is a bust.

[@naoyakusano9541]

Hey guys, do you think Matheson is tired from all the ice time this year and last?

[@HabsTypeBeat]

No every player has tough games.

[@c.d.s.6452]

Why is St Louis still coach?, fire him!

[@DjZOE-X]

all this pre season talk about our depth and rookie depth and blah blah bla... and all we got is shyte...WTF needs to change?????

[@stevedaniels623]

Matheson has to go

[@chrishansen8477]

Did this change everything? Is it amazing? Matheson is a dumpster fire, needs to be traded for a RD. Primeau blows

[@212jim]

If you would talk slower we could understand what you're saying

[@mauricerobillard612]

Tried to post something that was polite and my comment was rejected. Im it happens again I'm out of this channel. MSL is too pigheaded to accept coaching help. He is having a negative affect on WiFi. Let Wifi loose and let the dogs out. He doesn't know how to coach a power forward or a fighter/player.

[@tylerliverpool4481]

Matheson get pass compared to primeau is not nhl goalie and we need to stop trying to make him one I was at the game every goal he let in the first was terrible

[@GeoffEuverman]

enough of this Dach trash. Lose an AcL it takes a long time to heal. He reads this stuff. Habs always rejuvinate opposing players in a slump.Stop having so much respect . for other teams ,they dont.

[@williamarmour1656]

Stop the whining!

[@guillaumelussier7492]

it wasn t all negative ... come on guys , this game was pure garbage , be objective , stop trying to find sometings good in nothing

[@guillaumelussier7492]

fire the coach

[@guillaumelussier7492]

hugues and gorton are terrible too

[@tonylloy327]

Yup about HuGo. It ain't MSL that made the brutal trades to bring in Dach and Newhook and Barron. But Marty is the poor sap who's expected to give them ice time and try to get water from a stone.