Sonic 1 NES Improvement - But does it work on Real Hardware?

[@redhotsonic]

EDIT: I've now set up a live stream for volume 2 of this game and will be using real hardware. Don't miss it (27th Feb 2021) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYSvYnifYseSiJI Before edit: So, I was not aware there was a "Vol. 2" of this. So, possibly this weekend coming, using real hardware, I'll do a live stream of that version. So, keep an eye out for that 😊

[@stained36]

count me in the stream

[@redhotsonic]

@@ssicosomatico Google weren't a lot of help either. It keeps returning 1.1 or 1.2, even from the original webhost. I think it doesn't help that the new version is called "Volume 2" rather than "version 2". But ah well, excise for a stream, eh? 😅

[@yellowrodri55]

Your wife should be in more videos together or you guys should create a KZbin channel together

[@redhotsonic]

Well, I downloaded the file from romhacking.net but I don't understand what I'm meant to be doing. There's patches for Somari and Family Kid and then extras has lots of different patches but I see no vol2 patch. The readme is very vague. EDIT: Never mind, I had to download a different patcher and use a xdelta file instead.

[@dannyleedawber]

Don't take this offensively but give yourself a break 🤗

[@sourmelon7303]

In the original Somari, you need to have at least 100 rings to enter the Bonus Stage. It also used the music from the official 8-bit game.

[@FoxMan_FF]

Yeah, most of the faults that come with this hack are the fault of Hummer Team's original work, like the endless onslaught of enemies, but I do appreciate the efforts of multiple people to attempt to make this bootleg somewhat more enjoyable.

[@PrimeTF]

I also feel like the engine isn't suited for Sonic levels, and needs an overhaul.

[@FoxMan_FF]

Oh, absolutely. If you need further proof of that, go look at Waixing's hack of Somari that replaced Mario with Doraemon. It's a mess.

[@tassman5577]

"Hang on a minute you cant do tha-" *Title card*

[@BeBoldToWonder]

this is underrated

[@Nbrother1234]

“Yes she can” said the editor

[@Kidsworks-c7i]

"Roll The Title Cards 😉"

[@keiyakins]

The issues on the edges are due to a hardware limitation. The FC/NES only has enough memory for two screens of tiles, and they have to be either one above the other or one beside the other, no rearranging tiles to get a slightly bigger than the screen rectangle. It actually happens on both sides of SMB3, too, except that takes advantage of a hardware feature to hide the left edge of the screen entirely. Most if not all of this woulda been in the overscan anyway, so it was a sensible enough choice I guess.

[@luisjogos821]

This also happens in Megaman 6.

[@lucianothewindowsfan]

Not to mention, the palette table is for 16x16 pixels (2x2 tiles) each, which made it a nightmare to fix.

[@xtokumaru]

The fact that the game is blanking a bunch of scanlines at the bottom of the screen means that they could have gone with the "side by side" screen layout (i.e. vertical mirroring) instead and hidden the attribute glitches behind those blank scanlines. Unfortunately, the original developers didn't do that, and hacking the scrolling engine would probably be way too much work.

[@stoopidmansidiot]

Ironic how the camera overheats for someone with the word "redhot" in their username.

[@fnln3011]

More fitting than ironic. Irony would be if he was chill blue sonic and things kept overheating

[@iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg]

@@fnln3011 The channel name must now change to "ice cold, never overheats blue sonic"

[@PixelSP]

I like to imagine that Sonic 1 on NES would be totally normal in some other universe somewhere

[@compitalc]

but not sonic 1 on genesis

[@ArcadianLegend]

Sunsoft did port a bunch of Sega games to Famicom...

[@compitalc]

@@ArcadianLegend I guess... but did they port Sonic 1?

[@fungo6631]

It is normal in Russia. Somari was even officially licensed by Steepler.

[@PixelSP]

@@fungo6631 Checks out. The Dendy is a weeeeeeird system

[@individualeleven]

To load disk images for the FDS, get a FDSStick. It's a flash drive like device that connects to the RAM adapter.

[@stedmangg]

I like how you pointed out the edges of the screen being rendered in real time. Mario 3 suffers from the same problem on both sides, but they added a border to the left side of the screen to help hide it. I blame the rom!

[@xtokumaru]

There are many ways to implement clean 8-way scrolling on the NES (Jurassic Park and Felix the Cat are good examples of two different techniques), but apparently Hummer Team did not care about that.

[@ComeAlongFriend]

Wife: sonic on Nintendo RHS: >:[

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

Woodman is that you?

[@ComeAlongFriend]

@@doraeguyakaneddie6586 nice >:]

[@fungo6631]

Kinaman: Круто! Sega Lord X: Чё за нах?!

[@icecoldbluesonic]

SEGA:

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

If you ever decide you’re sick of the Stereo sound on your Famicom you can probably get an adaptor that splits the audio into two cables then another adaptor that splits a single cable into two, giving you identical sound in both speakers.

[@CPOSC]

0:30 Shadowcat: Roll the title cards. Redhotsonic: Hey wait a minute, you can't do -that!- *_Intro plays_*

[@NoahNCopeland]

that closing shot is money

[@mickael486]

it's unfortunate you never showed a comparison of the Master System version.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

I honestly think graphically this is really impressive. I love the way the SMS games look, but the graphics here are arguably better, some of the stages look like near perfect 8-bit renditions of the Mega Drive stages, whereas the SMS levels had to go for a very different look for most of the game. This is clearly not a great port, but graphically I like it. Especially the stages after Green Hill. I’d love to see some rom hackers change the level layouts to be less horrible with less badniks someday, maybe even improving the physics.

[@RodrigoDavy]

3:04 was the first time I've seen a KZbinr capture the essence of 2D Sonic game, this is literally my experience whenever I play any of the titles in the Mega Drive trilogy lmao

[@jackgibsonfirstalt]

“Hey wait a minute you can do tha-“ -best line ever

[@Speems]

It's a nice way to fix a notorious bootleg but it's too damn brutal, I just hope the next update (if any considering 2020 was the latest I think) is able to make it more bearable.

[@pedroalpha1101]

this version is old, the new version is vol.2, where it improved the graphics even more and corrected several errors or bugs if you prefer. the difference is great from there.

[@pedroalpha1101]

link www.romhacking.net/hacks/5026/

[@DoomKid]

The latest version is amazing!

[@EnderElectrics]

Why do these intros keep getting better and better?!

[@jarjar549]

I just realised that you only have 58k subs and now I'm disappointed in the human race

[@0n1c420]

*63K

[@QuiteTolerable]

@@0n1c420 *63.5k

[@Mr_Gamer-Random]

63.6k

[@mariobest93]

@@Mr_Gamer-Random *66.3k

[@zooooooooom]

*67.2K

[@Narakusin84]

Nice work as always man! Thanks for finding more and more ways to reinvigorate my childhood memories. XD

[@theonlybilge]

"XD"

[@benjiyadegar8901]

"3:04 I started to enjoy the game" Ah yes Death is the best part of any video game

[@BouncekDeLemos]

Great vid! If I can recall, this particular hack was the improvement over the old one, which was only just a sprite swap of Somari. This newer one has better sprites for Sonic, better "physics", and a proper level loadout (the old version started you off at spring yard zone iicr)

[@clonefighter1996]

"You're not making this intro easy, are you?" "Roll the title cards." Breaking the 4th wall. [Ding!]

[@RetroDarioGaming]

Im a Twin Famicom Owner from Germany with an Everdrive N8 Pro and the Hack works flawlessly without any Issues

[@ChaoDee]

Fun fact: The Sonic 1 NES Improvement doesn't change the level designs, it's still from Somari.

[@FakeSonicGuy]

This also works on the nes mini

[@MegAmi24]

it's an emulator box of course it'll work

[@J.S.06]

@@MegAmi24 r/whooooosh

[@mischiefthedegenerateratto7464]

@@J.S.06 r/woooosh with 4 Os

[@megamix5403]

@@MegAmi24 Correction, it's an official emulator box made by Nintendo.

[@zguthethird]

@@J.S.06 Where's the woosh?

[@OVABlueBlur96]

1:36 “This NES is the NES Version-“

[@diffy2443]

I love the fact everybody can enjoy your work by the multiple subtitles

[@retrokoh]

This is amazing to see an NES version of Sonic... will definitely play this later.

[@StarlightDX]

Awesome video RHS keep up the good work can’t wait for the next BDIWORH!!

[@LonicTH]

I guess it’s funny I had this “rom hack of a bootleg of a good game” on my NES Mini, and makes it a bit more “better”?

[@SportsThrowbacks]

I love that the PAL NES says on the door. Nintendo Entertainment System NES Edition

[@TheRealZoizzle]

That was awesome! Thank you RHS as usual for the great video :D

[@itsNikash.]

What an amusing opening. Well played Millie.

[@ethanjones9532]

GUESS WHAT REDHOTSONIC I HAVE BECAME A SPONSOR!!!

[@LYB4]

wow, I'm early for once! also, that intro was great

[@ToniaGlitched]

ok, now that's a big wow, because I was rather sure this game wouldn't run on real hardware, as it's a hack of a bootleg, also this series is really fun, glad you're back with it, redsonic

[@Arlacent]

Someone isnt exploiting the greatness of the NES soundchip

[@miwiki6]

that intro gives me some déjà vu

[@dannyleedawber]

BREAKING NEWS: Shadowcat is official takes over channel after taking over the channel... Maybe

[@Jake_Josh]

Can’t wait for that.

[@dannyleedawber]

@@Jake_Josh it's not actually happening 😂

[@Jake_Josh]

@@dannyleedawber you make me sad.

[@SupaGut2001]

Adorei o vídeo. Muito obrigado por colocar legendas em português! Este brasileiro aqui agradece!

[@bloodblues85]

That was really funny at the beginning :) Great video!

[@Mr_Wahee]

What's next- *Atari* Sonic? (i donno but would be extremely mind blowing if it existed)

[@mypkamax]

Zippy the Porcupine?

[@PhantomBoi-ru9ci]

Yeah Zippy for the atari 2600

[@linkthehero8431]

Zippy the Porcupine for the Atari 2600

[@ElephantMariotheRHDNhater3293]

Even though Sonic 1 on the NES is just a rom hack of Somari, I find it a lot more polished then the original bootleg.

[@Whfox]

Not really, the original Sonic 1 on NES was made by the same bootleg developers (hummer team) and they added some bugfixes for the Sonic variant (named Sonic 3D Blast 5).

[@Synergetic32X]

Wife: Roll the title card! RHS: Wait, that's illegal-

[@swordcube]

*title card starts*

[@UltraSonicHero]

I was laughing so hard when your wife stole the spotlight from you at the beginning. XD

[@SolidSonicTH]

I've seen the evolution of this project. It's almost insane (and it's still going).

[@CrashFan03]

8:25 i like the detail of the background music becoming mono when you switch it in obs

[@KCDash4400cw]

Finally I've been waiting for something like this. thank you :)

[@nkkcutie]

Red did you explore the zone for emeralds?

[@DiamondWolfX]

The "real time drawing" effect is a hardware limitation. The video system can only load more than a still screen's worth of tiles in one direction, which is needed to draw different tiles on each side of the screen is its not perfectly on the grid.

[@Garrulous64]

Sonic Improvement in Stereo sounds like something I wanna hear. Aside from those pesky ring noises of course.

[@krisfrederick5001]

Sonic on the NES...Mario hanging with Sonic...Cats sleeping with Dogs...no one would have believed any of this on the playground in the early 90's.

[@TheSaviour1.0]

Red I was in your sonic 4 episode 2 and I'm subbed

[@midamida887]

That intro was hilarious.

[@tuneableice]

Labyrinth is always the true hell zone

[@skoopercantdraw]

RHS: aight, the last machine of the night, the north american NES...... YOU COST ME A LOT OF MONEY >:[

[@TheVintageGamer]

There are so many sonic nes ports, mods, rom hacks, etc it's overwhelming

[@magolol4945]

i’ll be trying this out some day, just wait

[@BrynBuck]

Mrs RHS is a natural at this.

[@ElephantMariotheRHDNhater3293]

Well, I figured this would appear. And I'm glad it's working on real Hardware.

[@lokisbr9884]

Just when I was checking the playlist

[@GameMistress]

I have the old version on an "original cartridge" Of Sonic and I can tell you it's a massive nightmare compared to the improved version! Do you know if they put the Sonic 1 NES Improvement + Tracks on a NES cartidge as well? Would be fun to own it :D

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

Nice >:) - Woodman

[@waltercomunello121]

loving the intro!

[@deadkatasumi]

At least it got that authentic nintendo nes difficulty

[@GottaBeFrank]

Can't wait to see Zippy the Porcupine But does it work on Real Hardware? 😉

[@redhotsonic]

Getting an RGB modded PAL Atari is no problem. Getting an NTSC one though...

[@Imfernolistico]

I guess you could say this is Sonic on Nintendo before Sonic on Nintendo actually happened... nah, just kidding. Amazing video! It's really interesting and weird seeing Sonic 1 on a NES.

[@ValExp543]

the sprites are really good

[@supersaiyanmario4265]

This video is in an alternative universe where The bit wars never existed.

[@MaxNovOfficial]

I like your videos they're so amazing I hope you will make more!

[@halfwaycash]

cool video hope you are doing good see you un next video!

[@skoopercantdraw]

It would be cool if sega actually collabed with nintendo to make sonic nes

[@Goldcoin69]

Redhotsonic: I can't get a top load nes. me sees the top loader: you have it bruh!

[@big8ball329]

he said the american version

[@Fafr]

8:59 I somewhy have a feeling like I saw this part somewhere earlier... is it just a deja vu feeling?

[@ethanrocket430]

0:40 start

[@RC-pj1pr]

The soundtrack sounds pretty good

[@jameschapman3737]

Read this so you don't have to watch the video. It does work. I tried it on my microwave. The most accurate microwave which has passed all its safety compliance tests. It heated up potatoes flawlessly. If it runs on my microwave, it runs on a real oven.

[@SonicTheDutchHedgehog]

Thanks mate

[@mistersomaru]

I want to hear that soundtrack done with the VRC8 chip

[@knightterror8489]

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one that struggles with it

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Awesome Video

[@revengenerd1]

One of these days I will RGB mod my AV Famicom, already have the kit just wary as Im a beginner at soldering would love to play this on it.

[@rexthesheep]

Somehow I'd never gotten around to watching a video of yours before. With an adorable intro like that, I think I picked the best first one. ✨

[@ls190v2]

There was another version of Somari called The Hummer.

[@Alexrun902]

This is a pretty awesome new video red, I don't know why the American NES was giving you soo much trouble though, on behalf of the country I apologize I guess

[@redhotsonic]

When I sent them for RGB modding, they all came back but every console jittered. I then sent them all to be dejittered but they all came back still jittering. Turns out it was a firmware issue on the RGB boards. Sent them all off again to be flashed but at this point, the modder received the NA NES dead on arrival. I guess damaged in post. They all came back and all consoles now worked and no longer jittered except for the NA NES which was dead. I then had to send it back for rework and managed to get it working again on composite only. Then after that, back to oldskool for another RGB board but it wouldn't work well and after months, it came back with RGB but jittering. Then back to Duncan for dejittering but no effect. The console itself cost a lot as I had to import it, then went back and forth for several mods and in the end, it just doesn't work except for my BVM.

[@Alexrun902]

@@redhotsonic I'm sorry to hear that, hopefully you won't have any more trouble with these Real Hardware videos going forward, but since you have the NES and SNES Equipment, will you ever try to see if any Mario rom hacks work on real hardware? You don't have to, I'm just asking

[@ruqg-1]

this is such a cool vid dude!!!!!!!!!!!

[@theonlybilge]

So this is less for the gameplay and more to look at the spritework.

[@takedoesstuff]

I love this man

[@tobytaylor6329]

my entire body when HAHHAHAHHA when she said roll the title cards

[@tobytaylor6329]

really I did not go like HAHHAHAHHA when she said roll the title cards I went like bruh...

[@sussyentertainment]

NEXT - Sonic Heroes prototypes - But does it work on Real Hardware?

[@classicalcomedy2622]

The chaos emeralds are in the special stages,just hidden

[@RandomNTH]

Is it weird that I like the sprites in the game more than the master system sprites?

[@rangerreviews107]

What's the name of the song that plays at 7:10?

[@dannyleedawber]

1:14 RHS After he couldn't get a prototype on eBay 😛

[@RosyTheRed]

Redhotsonic please try Super Mario Bros 3 Mix you will guaranteed love it.

[@numtec2]

Welp finally i was waiting for this

[@adamsfusion]

RHS discovers overscan, the musical.

[@redhotsonic]

According to the 240p suite, and other games such as the first Super Mario Bros, that was not overscan.

[@ILovePreschools]

8:11 Where did you get the NES to FC adapter? A link to the site you got it from would be apprecieated.