Sonic Superstars' Unused Music Tracks

[@DefinitelyNotClassicShadow]

Fun fact: Sonic Superstars' OST had a total of 20 composers. Jun Senoue, Tee Lopes, Fumio Itoh, Satoshi Oike, Takahiro Kai, Hiroshi Kawaguchi (Hiro), Hideaki Kobayashi, Hidenori Shoji, Rintaro Soma, Iona Takashima, Yasuyuki Nagata, Ryo Fukuda, Mitsuharu Fukuyama, Tae Fujimoto, Tatsuyuki Maeda, Kenji Mizuno, Takenobu Mitsuyoshi, TORIENA, Yuzuru Jinma, and Teruhiko Nakagawa Thank you to Sonic Sound Archive for providing this order! If there are any mistakes, please let me know so I can correct them.

[@CMJ321]

WOW! this is an intresting fact thanks!!!

[@SonicSoundArchive]

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[@SonicTheHedgehogX15]

That explains the instrumental inconsistency

[@TheSultan1470]

More musical composers than programmers Programmers: SEGA's Janitor

[@knowingjordankid]

@@DefinitelyNotClassicShadow Thanks for telling me this interesting fact.

[@caseykm2405]

Unused bridge island act 1 kinda reminds me of the first stage of sonic 4 ep 2

[@sonkmaximoose59]

Cyber station boss (unused) is the best song out of every song in this video change my mind

[@TheGamingChampions-pg1sl]

Your so right

[@EbubechukwuChukwuma-oy7cr]

So true dude ❤

[@TimTacTV]

Nothing beats Bridge Island sorry lmao

[@sonkmaximoose59]

@@TimTacTV you deserve to be on a watch list (joke)

[@mehiloll]

Agreed

[@Creeper_Storm]

My man picked the right choice of having Speed Jungle act Sonic as the intro

[@baxodlade]

A masterpiece

[@playbossthebest936]

The recent spotify release of the album states that Yuzuru Jinma arranged every track for the credits medley. So... I guess he decided to emulate Jun's "style" specifically? Such a weird decision

[@Couldntfindaname111]

Holy shit its the guy who listened to the entire sonic forces ost

[@playbossthebest936]

@@Couldntfindaname111 is that a huge achievement?

[@Couldntfindaname111]

@@playbossthebest936 yes

[@Couldntfindaname111]

@@playbossthebest936 yes

[@Couldntfindaname111]

​@@playbossthebest936yes

[@ItYaBoiGreen]

Unused cyber station sounds so good holy cow

[@brawlsonic18]

1:43 Music Composers don't use "Soundfonts". Composers use real instruments or VST's. An example of a VST is the Korg M1, which is the synth where multiple different instrument noises, including the Brass Noise from Sonic Mania ("The Brass Of Power") originates from. Another example of VST's are the "XPand!2" and "Vacuum Classic" VST's which are the ones Jun Senoue used in Sonic 4 Episode 2. And Genesis Music also doesn't use a soundfont. Genesis Music uses the YM2612 and SN76489 Sound Chips. In terms of different styles of music from different composers, just refer to them using "different instruments" and/or "different instrumentation". By the way, I am not trying to be rude at all. I'm just saying that composers don't use "Soundfonts". Because ever since a soundfont that contains a few Genesis Instruments called "The Ultimate Genesis Soundfont" was released, a lot of people now make "Genesis Remixes" using that soundfont. When you say "I know how to make Genesis Music", that means you should know how to program music using chiptune trackers (such as Furnace or Deflemask). But, if you just take a MIDI and slap a Genesis Soundfont on top, that doesn't count as "being able to make Genesis Music". I'm just leaving this comment so people can avoid confusion about instruments and programs that composers use.

[@SFproductions1]

i appreciate the corrections 👍

[@brawlsonic18]

​@@SFproductions1 Like I said, I am just leaving this comment so that people avoid confusion. Again, don't find this comment annoying. I'm just a composer that wanted to clear up that small bit of false information about music. 👍

[@TheSultan1470]

Here it comes... 🤓

[@sonicnetwork2789]

​​@@SFproductions1can you do another fan game video except with the sonic fan game's on Roblox I've got at four recommendations sonic re charged sonic pulse sonic sandbox and sonic r sonic r has sonic and a trail of rings as the cover btw this sonic rift 2 but on the phone with my first channel I'll subscribe on here if you make the vid 👍

[@Epsilonsama]

That's the difference but Jun did not use that soundfont. He used something worse than that.

[@louiseugeniojr.3530]

That was a rather interesting video showing off unused music tracks in Sonic Superstars if I do say so myself. It just amazes me how much content in a typical video game could end up not being used in the final version.

[@farawaygaming_]

Press factory is honestly my favorite track in the game, reminds me the few good forces genesis tracks (like egg dragon boss music)

[@sa_lad1158]

The intro to the unused Cyberstation Boss theme needs to be extended and expanded on cuz it’s so ethereal sounding

[@LotteYansson]

First time hearing the Press Factory zone theme and the final version borderline sounds like the options theme in Sonic Spinpall.

[@Scratchthefox804]

Tbh I love the final version of press factory because it has more chaotic nature in its theme while the beta version sounded pretty empty when it’s a factory zone

[@Firstsave6]

I would’ve been so cool to see some of these songs as an unlockable somewhere in the game.

[@squarethinkingdude]

i'd say the game was never meant to sond like that and those Xpand tracks were just actual placeholders waiting to be rearranged, specially because in the credits medley there are sections fro songs that didnt get to pass trough the Xpand2 treatment like the entirety of speed jungle, in short, i think this was rushed and it is still incomplete but we eill never see a completed version i fear

[@PercyPanleo]

Honestly I'd be inclined to agree with this, it isn't normal for a game to have as much unused music left in the files as Superstars had

[@MrNeedleM0use]

Nah bro Press Factory is peak lock in

[@AsayaPaul]

Reminds me of Metallic Madness

[@RameNoodls]

LOCK IN SF 🗣️ 🔥 🔥

[@SFproductions1]

Me when I'm wrong

[@jonasonic456]

I unironically like act 1 💀

[@MrNeedleM0use]

@@SFproductions1 Im right you just dont see the vision gang

[@PilaCiu]

How dare you call Sonic R bad?

[@AsayaPaul]

Fr the soundtrack is PEAK

[@sonkmaximoose59]

Whoever calls Sonic R bad should be kicked out of the Sonic fandom forever

[@PercyPanleo]

Sonic R has an amazing OST but it isn't great gameplay wise. Controls aren't great (especially on Saturn if the PC version's selling point of improved controls is anything to go off of) there isn't much content (with the padding being extremely punishing towards the player) and the character balancing is not great

[@sonkmaximoose59]

@@PercyPanleo Sonic r-echarged fixes basically everything wrong with the game

[@PercyPanleo]

@@sonkmaximoose59 fair, but that's a fan made mod, not the original game that SEGA published

[@Pinkeys_Place]

I cannot lie some of the genesis sounding songs that are both used and unused sound like it would be played by an ice cream truck.

[@joshuadesousa6668]

Bridge Island Act 2, Speed Jungle Act 1, and Egg Fortress Act 2 were the best songs in the soundtrack

[@TTGXD]

Cyber station boss unused is perfect for a modern Sonic game fr

[@Cray2legends]

fr

[@ABO-aLÄLOO]

if you remember when speed jungle act 1 got leaked the music was diffrent than what we got

[@masudhasan70]

Yeah, I always had a feeling that the "Sonic 4"-ish tracks (courtesy of none other than Jun Senoue) weren't intended to be finalised that way, but a lack of time and budget prevented other composers from re-arranging them. Personally though, my gripes with the soundtrack are mostly relegated to how ungodly repetitive and awful some themes are: the main menu, world map, the Fang encounter in Speed Jungle act Sonic and ESPECIALLY the early game boss theme. Also Press Factory act 1's theme is awesome; it's the only one that truly benefits from the harshness of the "Sonic 4" soundfont given the level theme and I will die on this hill. Funny how that since the original PFZ1 is considerably less harsh sounding, this one's final arrangement might've been intentional. Still prefer fan Genesis remixes of that one though.

[@JadeJovian]

I must wonder how you feel about most of Sonic 1 and 2's soundtracks considering most of those songs are about the same length.

[@masudhasan70]

@@JadeJovian They aren't 10 second loops though.

[@JadeJovian]

@@masudhasan70 Sonic 2's boss melody is the same length as Superstars. 14 seconds. Sonic 2's menu theme is literally 6 seconds.

[@masudhasan70]

@@JadeJovian At least the Sonic 2 boss theme is awesome enough. And if you meant the sound test menu theme, I do find that one does get old pretty fast. But again; my gripes on Superstars OST were with the few super repetitive awful faux-Genesis tracks; and there's also very few super repetitive tracks from the classic games. So I'm not sure what you're going for by saying "most of these songs" are the same length.

[@Rafielo]

The unused Cyber Station song woulve been perfect for a possible Act 2 of the stage... If it had one... :C

[@Ibalistic_hedge]

unused cyber station track has a very unleashed feel to it and sound to it.

[@BrettWeiss-w7y]

The unused cyber station boss sound track is so much better then the original

[@korza6foura333]

Hey! I honestly thought the polarizing diff in superstars OST was because sega hired tee Lopes last minute because jun senoue is the main reason we have many genesis esque tracks in many modern 2d games, which fans have expressed hatred before. And also cyber station has 2 different unused versions!!!

[@TheFallenStar64]

I feel like the unused Invincibility theme is better then the used one. It has a charm to it that's hard to explain

[@Spin_Music]

Jun Senuoe really be like I LOVE Korg Trition/Xpand!2/Vaccum PRESETS

[@spsaofficalchannel]

3:29 so instead of just using this better sounding track... they made the consious decision to go back in and make the final track WORSE... What is this game's problem???

[@Ibalistic_hedge]

Superstars is so damn underrated.

[@TORXINYUEXAVIERSTUDENT]

Give Jun his goddamn guitar SEGA you’re killing him

[@PuppyFromTheAlt]

I just hope that SEGA allows the arrangers some extra time to stuff their Tee Lopes-ified variations of the songs into update patches. SEGA's disregard of the damage that time crunches can inflict on both the artist and the product has been evident for years, and it's very disappointing.

[@Sonic24prime]

The beginning of press factory of both versions of the track sounds like sonic 4 episode 2 final boss theme

[@MarcusTheObjectShowFan]

the unused cyber station boss theme sounds like sonic cd

[@solidusgadget]

Superstars OST's inconsistenty mostly comes from Senoue as sound director. He's always been inviting anyone he can to record music since SA1 and letting people do whatever they want but it backfired with TSR which was mediocre but at least consistent and Superstars because there's just too many clashing styles and instruments.

[@majman446]

I'm surprised this whole video didn't mention the unused version of Press Factory Act Fruit, which is a completely different song from the released one, but uses the same instruments.

[@falk2024]

Also, fun fact: there's an newer version of the unused Cyber Station music and it's better then the old one

[@DSK_Terrence_Official]

the unused cyber station track sounds like an unused sonic unleashed track

[@ЕрнарКыдырбеков-ч8э]

absolutely not

[@DewMan31]

I might be the only person that unironically likes the sound of Press Factory Zone.

[@lightbluedude7628]

I see what you mean with the Press Factory comparison, tho I vastly prefer the one they used. The aggressive lead instrument fits the vibe of the stage better, tho I do agree that they could've toned it down a bit (Doesn't help either that this stage is AFTER Lagoon City Act 2, one of the best tracks in the game-)

[@GLITCHWORMGAMESYT]

Also related to sonic superstars in my Mario fangame I'm currently updating the first level is inspired a little by Bridge Island Zone and has a remix of Windy Hill From SA1, I gave it the name "Windmill Valley". The fangame has a lot of Sonic Inspired content in it. I gave mario a cool moveset where he has the Flame Dash and a DIG/Spin move as well. It's a pretty good moveset for Speedrunning. My Fangame is Called SMB RMX Land 3: Now's The Time!! It's my sixth entry in my fangame series. I'm updating and revamping all of my entries to fix some issues or problems they had. I recently finished revamping my first entry. It turned out pretty good I'll say that. My sixth entry has a cool gimmick where it has split paths like sonic and knuckles on the genesis/mega drive. It has a little sonic advance series inspired content as well. I'm planning something pretty cool for the new update for the game. I won't say much about it as it's gonna be a cool surprise. Have a good one dude loved the video.

[@earlyriser03]

No, not all songs in Superstars were composed using the instrumentation found in Sonic 4, which is why some songs, like Pinball Carnival 1 or Lagoon City 1, have no early full versions that align with that sound. They weren’t composed with that instrument set to begin with. The musical medley we hear during the credits was absolutely composed after the fact and, according to the OST, done by Yuzuru Jinma.

[@CMJ321]

superstars is a fun little game to me!

[@neatbeats3616]

Dude could u imagine if they act used the Bridge Island Act 1 Zone? I don’t even think people would by the game 😭

[@AetherWolf]

Honestly, I love the different types and kinds of songs in the Sonic Superstars!

[@SlimeCooler2]

The unused cyber station music is like rick roll

[@yoshihammerbro435]

Sonic Labyrinth OST got me going like a banger tho

[@Andresitum]

Many of them are used for the Medley (Credits)

[@knowingjordankid]

Sonic Superstars soundtrack is… not really good. I don’t ever want to hear you say Sonic R is bad.

[@TheSultan1470]

Sonic R(eally bad)

[@MafaroChinyerere]

Egg fotrs beta sound amazing

[@carolineneh2791]

I think Cyber Station Act 1 soundtrack (Unused) sounds kinda good and Press Factory Act 1(Unused) sounds pretty good But yeah I wish Superstars had consistent tracks in the level of Mania Quality or Majestic as Lagoon City(all 3 acts) Bridge Island(All acts) Speed Jungle(All 3 acts) or Carvinal Night(All 3 acts)

[@NyzArt]

Pinball Carnival* btw

[@NokaiGaming]

We making it out of Sonic 4 with this one 🔥🔥🔥

[@Phamtheman69]

sup nokai

[@Toysonicandfriends2]

3:41 that sound way better

[@TheTSMBoi]

0:27 Sonic Eraser and Sonic Chronicles: No it’s not!

[@carolineneh2791]

If it had unused tracks I wouldn't be suprised if the game had unused zones

[@squarethinkingdude]

There was a cyber station act 2, the bossfight music in the files is referred as Cyber Station Act 2, and it is kinda strange that we have 2 bosses in 1 act, alsothe song has a faint connection to the main melody just lacking the you are my hero from 3d blast leitmotif

[@Mikau888]

Holy shit, the "Genesis" version of Bridge Island makes it sound so shitty

[@Mohamed58290]

Best ost in the game imo is sand sanctuary

[@GLITCHWORMGAMESYT]

I kinda like all of the Cyber Station Themes, i do agree that the final game track for the zone is better

[@wisdorfianvods]

I think the majority of this game’s ost is not very good. Which is a shame because I actually enjoy a few of these songs like Speed Jungle act 1 and Lagoon City act 2

[@pedda3934]

"Good games" *shows Frontiers* That's a good one xD

[@SFproductions1]

We all have our opinions 👍

[@sonicnetwork2789]

Cyber station beta and finished versions sounds good equally

[@UnderWeekend]

0:25 Showing Sonic R when saying bad games 😢

[@baxodlade]

In pretty sure the unused music is in the credits (I think)

[@baxodlade]

Shit I forgot about the part you put in the beginning 💀 my brain confuses me sometimes

[@therealdk01]

The Sonic Superstars Soundtrack debate has always been tiring to me, I understand why people were mixed on the ost since so many people are very passionate about Sonic music, but it got to a point where people were talking more about the music than the actual game itself. I felt like people gave better constructive criticism to Jun’s music in the game than the gameplay.. to me, the soundtrack is fine. There’s just a few songs that actually border on unbearable listening.

[@huuishuu]

I actually wonder if some of these tracks are leftovers from the cancelled Sonic 4 Episode 3 & were just repurposed for Superstars with new arrangements. Wouldn't be the first time they'd do that, such as with the Boss theme in Sonic 4 Episode 1 being the unused/scrapped boss theme from Sonic 3D Blast, or some Sonic Adventure tracks being rearranges of Sonic 3D Blast songs too. Reason I think this is because some of the unused tracks sound way too similar to the style used in both Sonic 4 episodes. I think it's entirely possible anyway, that some of the tracks used in Superstars are just compositions that have been reused from the cancelled project.

[@rollbustah]

I think this soundtrack gets overhated by the Sonic fanbase too much. I can't hate a soundtrack with masterpieces like Lagoon City Act 2, Sand Sanctuary, and Pinball Carnival. Even the Sonic 4 sounding ones still have good melodies and compositions. They really just should have delayed the game by 3 months or something so the other composers could finish remixing the rest of those tracks into better versions.

[@TheSultan1470]

Delay? Unspeakable.

[@sephdotwav]

"soundfonts"

[@SFproductions1]

soundfonts, VSTs, plugins, instruments, whatever 🤣

[@darknid158]

@@SFproductions1nah you right man

[@Jax-go9es]

sonic fans finding out unfinished music doesn't sound good: 😮😮😮😮

[@SFproductions1]

It's kinda crazy because most of the unused tracks in this video sound better than their final versions imo

[@TommyFebbo-c1r]

I think they should have made an entirely different mode where the game has Genesis graphics and these songs play

[@CcMusicAndMore]

I don't think XPand!2 is that bad. I actually like the sound of it.

[@nurzhansmagulov8432]

Sonic R was was SEGA’s greatest 3D game of the 1990s!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@PrismaticSekai]

Although this soundtrack is a bit of a mixed bag due to its inconsistency, there are some really good tracks Bridge Island, Pinball Carnival, Press Factory (in my opinion), hell the Fang and Eggman final boss themes are absolutely stellar From the looks of it, most of the composers that worked on the soundtrack either worked on other Sonic games beforehand (Jun Senoue, Rintaro Soma, Tee Lopes) or some that either have worked on other Sega projects or relatively new composers Despite the disconnected soundtrack, I wouldn't really say that it's the composers fault as even with whatever the hell was happening, they did the best they could and I can commend them for that

[@EpikGamer879]

My Theory Is That Sonic Superstars Was Supposed To Be A 2d Game Just Like Sonic 1,Sonic 2,Sonic 3 & Knuckles

[@Aronical]

Idk why but Sonic 4 and sonic superstars are the same thing to me but one is definetly better

[@sonicnetwork2789]

Sonic superstars has a great sound track minus fangs boss press factory act 1 the finished version and a few of the tracks from battle mode but everything else is good

[@LolipooChimichanga]

I feel like even with some of the few songs that sound really good, the zone selection gotta be the most generic sonic archetype stages ever, with the most sonic 1 type names. I bet you that no zone in this game is as memrorable as the few original stages in Mania. Edit: And I'll say it, I'll count even the reused stages aswell.

[@vilhovarelius1164]

Cyber station unused boss music is more like anime fight music to me

[@MarioWithTheCrowbar]

I see you accidentally swapped the footage when talking about Sonic having good games and bad games, please check your videos before uploading them

[@SFproductions1]

LOL

[@SunkotheRabbit]

Why didn't they use the unused version of press factory it actually sounds good.

[@ChibiSteak]

7:36 fin.

[@Speedhedge12]

I wish they allowed us to change the soundtrack to classic and modernish sounding music instead of us being stuck with an extremely inconsistent soundtrack.

[@Gyrokun]

Would've been extra Sonic CD points for that too

[@DoubustuNoSekai]

I prefer the Sonic 4 music.

[@octocamandfriends5925]

Cyberstation bosss sounds like cyberspace

[@TRN49]

When you posted the broken Minecraft disc on your community, I thought you were going to review all the discs from Minecraft, Also Great Video

[@thelognerrator]

This is probably a hot take but I honestly don't mind the "inconsistency" of the soundtrack. Sonic games have had multiple styles in their soundtracks before this is nothing new. And people's reaction to the "Sonic 4 sounding" songs is ridiculous imo.

[@Snuskillen1380]

Good video

[@deslardesslok]

7:58p.m. 7/30/2024

[@andersonsansonowski5644]

Idea: face reveal when you 30K

[@SFproductions1]

lol no

[@andersonsansonowski5644]

@@SFproductions1 okay..

[@skadooshnator9336]

After reading the comments, the hate for some zone tracks, especially Press Factory is exaggerated a litte just be glad we don't have to listen same type of melody in Sonic Forces classic green hill

[@cakelayer]

Exactly, if people want bad classic Sonic music they should go listen to the Forces Soundtrack, all the songs sound like corporate and out of touch and sound like 8 bit stock music and the instruments are so amateur and ear piercing it's embarrassing, I genuinely wonder how they even thought Classic Sonic music sounded remotely like that (This is all just my opinion however)

[@agentomecha634]

Coming from someone who does like Press Factory’s OST, the unused one does sound better on the ears. And the unused Cyberspace boss stage is much better than the final version in my opinion. Although I suppose the more retro sound of the final track fits the stage better.

[@szszabolcs9582]

I'm still hoping a Sonic Superstars Plus will happen and if it will I am 100% sure that the soundtrack will be fixed

[@JoshuaRodroguez-hz5yb]

What if one day sega stopped making games?

[@victoralanhernandez6894]

I never knew this

[@user-vacgod2739]

You can’t say ANYTHING good about the music in Sonic Superstars. It’s JARRING, INCONSISTENT, CHEESY, and EAR-BLEEDING. Nearly EVERY other Sonic game has better music than this DUMPSTER FIRE of a game!

[@JakeThehedgehog-m1x]

How did you even discover the soundtracks??

[@SFproductions1]

from the cutting room floor (link in description)

[@Kirbsayshi]

Honestly if I'm being completely honest I have no problem with the superstar soundtrack and also I know this is completely off topic but a message that I tried to send on one of your live streams but apparently just did not get seen by you so I'm going to resend this real quickly hot take Sonic 06 is better than Sonic forces Bro use the freaking broken disc from Minecraft as the unused version of song that is hilarious also I'm sorry if these message is a bit broken in the English voice type has gone to total s*** it used to be good anyway have a nice day thank you for making this video but I personally see no issue with this soundtrack also by the way my favorite song from the soundtrack of Sonic Superstars is cyber station THE USED ONE that old one is trash 🗑️

[@TheSultan1470]

Honestly, I'm completely honest, to be honest.

[@SonicTheHedgehogX15]

Sand sactuary still slaps me ngl

[@Super_Cinder.Inferno]

Why Did You Have To Use Disc 11?

[@SFproductions1]

Cuz it's broken

[@Super_Cinder.Inferno]

​@@SFproductions1I Feel Your Cursing Me More, I Find Minecraft Creepypasta Videos More. (I Know Pretty Much All Of Them Are Fake, But Seriously Don't)

[@SaddieMoon]

4:25 I don’t agree with this take. While some of the instruments in the unused version sound worse, I would say I like it more since I can actually hear the melody.

[@Cerberus589]

Ngl Superstars has such a forgettable soundtrack imo

[@TheSultan1470]

LOL Sanic can't even get his music straight, pretty rough.

[@mober7430]

The unused Cyber Station Boss theme is amazing. Also Sonic Superstars OST is pretty good y’all are overreacting. But I don’t expect anything better from Sonic Fans. Like Press Factory is amazing what are y’all on about. Only bad tracks are the boss themes. (other than cyber station) Sonic 4 Episode 2 got some good tracks too don’t undermine it.

[@LolipooChimichanga]

_"Also Sonic Superstars OST is pretty good y’all are overreacting"_ Ah yes, I love having a new 2D sonic game which it's music has an identity crisis. I mean it's not like any 2D sonic fangames exist or even Sonic Mania (official game), which were more consistent than this somehow. And it's not like this inconsistency wasn't done back in origins when some of the s3&k songs were replaced and sounded worse than a prototype for sonic 3.

[@mober7430]

@@LolipooChimichanga I didn’t say it was consistent I said it was good. Fan Games usually have one of two composers. Including Sonic Mania (which is a fangame btw), Sonic Superstars had 19 composers so that’s not even a fair comparison. Just proved my point that y’all are overreacting about the soundtrack. Bro has NOT heard of an opinion lol.

[@LolipooChimichanga]

@@mober7430 _"I didn’t say it was consistent I said it was good."_ The soundtrack being inconsistent makes it more meddling than previous games that WERE consistent. _"Fan Games usually have one of two composers. Including Sonic Mania (which is a fangame btw), Sonic Superstars had 19 composers so that’s not even a fair comparison."_ There are other games out there with many people working on the OST, and can still have each song sound like they belong in the same game. And no, Sonic Mania was published by SEGA. By that definition makes it official. The develepers happened to be sonic fans. Never understood that logic. _"Just proved my point that y’all are overreacting about the soundtrack. Bro has NOT heard of an opinion lol."_ I know what an opinion is. I'm just saying that some of this criticism is justified when you account in to how generic the zones are compared to previous games, which IMO makes them a bit more forgetable. I expected a sort of evolution of both Mania's zone ideas and music direction, and I'm definitely not alone on that.

[@mober7430]

@@LolipooChimichanga By your logic SEGA publishing Sonic Mania automatically means SEGA are the people behind the game which is not true. I never said that the game wasn’t official. (bros going back to check rn lol) Also none of us know what was going on in the background. They clearly had different visions for the music and they most likely didn’t work together well. How does it bother you SO much to the point that it ruins all the good tracks for you? I also don’t know why you’re copying what I say to justify anything you say, kinda annoying ngl. Is this how you always are when you argue with someone? In fact I’ll do the same thing cause why not? “AnD nO, sOnIc MaNiA wAs PuBLiShEd By sEgA. bY tHaT dEfiNiTiOn MaKeS iT oFFiCiaL. dEvELoPeRs HaPpEnEd To Be FaNs. NeVeR UnDeRsToOd ThAt LoGiC 🤓” (idc if you call me immature for using nerd emoji) You’re the type of person to be disturbed by anything someone says. Must be very fun at social gatherings.

[@mober7430]

@@LolipooChimichanga I see you edited your comment and with the amount of zone/level ideas and places that have already been done in the series. How can you expect entirely new zone themes and names that haven’t already been done? They have been running out of them and it shows. There is only so much you can make. The only one I can see them doing is one thats has a space atmosphere. Not a planet atmosphere like Planet Wisp or a Spaceship like Death Egg Zone. Just a zone set in space where you can see another planets and the sun and stuff.