【Sonic Theory: Who Are Silver's Parents? - VS. Sega Scourge (DEBATE)】

[@kitsuneoftheforest2119]

personally, I think silver is the result of a mixture between shadows and sonics bloodlines, think about it, if shadow had a child with someone, and sonamy had a child, and the children got together and had a child, it wouldn't be to far fetched to say that the child could be silver

[@s0urcl0ut]

I like it! My own theory is that Shadow and Shade the Echidna have children, and if Amy's clairvoyance was passed down with Sonic in your theory, it would merge with Shade's teleportation and own PK abilities. Silver would inherit both Sonic and Shadow's chaos control and super forms too. Best part? It doesn't violate the time travel laws which would erase Silver from existence when Mephiles kills Sonic because Shadow and Shade's offspring could still go on to create Silver! That time travel thing was the biggest problem I had with Scourge's theory. I love it when a theory comes together!

[@Velocity_YT]

@@s0urcl0ut that's where your wrong. Remove just one person from the timeline and it could change everything.

[@sonicthehedgehog6609]

BTW I like ur theory, “kitsune of the forest” shadaze(shadow+blaze) + sonamy(sonic+Amy) + many generations of evolution and bloodline mutation =SILVER!

[@sonicthehedgehog6609]

Git Yo’ face outta here Colin Nze

[@Velocity_YT]

@@sonicthehedgehog6609 I'm stating facts you idiot. Time travel has a weird way with messing with you...

[@GeneFOX70]

Why would shadow kick his son in the back of the head?

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

Why would Vegeta punch his son Trunks in the face? ;) (that was in the Buu saga btw). Both Vegeta and Shadow are hard-asses

[@GeneFOX70]

+GamerGuyd7Aces Is Archie Sonic canon? Because some people say no and some people say yes

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

AuraMaster It depends. I believe in some areas they are canon. Of course Sega has to approve of Archie's canon obviously. And their stories are alot more organized and cohesive than the sloppy videogame canon

[@GeneFOX70]

+GamerGuyd7Aces So does the strength/speed theory you did is kind of irrelevant because Archie Sonic is waaaaaaaaaaaay faster than light and his strength is god like or beyond since he has defeated gods who can destroy universes?

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

+AuraMaster lol that's why I didn't use the comics. I only drew from the games to further debunk mattpatts original sonic theory and to add on to gnoggins video about it

[@somebadbatter]

Theory: Silver went back in time and became his own grandfather

[@Ollie.H-23]

That makes 0 sense

[@shadzr0ze]

Lol

[@georgelee6151]

Not taking the mick but.. why would you think that? Pls explain

[@andrewedmondson9361]

George Lee It’s a reference to one of the earlier episodes of Futurama

[@georgelee6151]

K

[@DaReelSlimN80]

Theory: Silver was actually grown in someone's backyard, and was green, but one day a serum (cookies, spice, needles, mice, teenager, no uses, bleach, chemical TK, etc.) spilled on him and evolved into a Mobian weed-hog. Blaze befriends him just so she can use her fire powers to smoke his hair while he's asleep.

[@iananderson4754]

so that explains his original name of pothead the porcupine

[@AsterLotus]

Weed more likes.

[@kendiafaulk2870]

Actually there called quills

[@reinacarranza1210]

I laughed at this for way to long

[@s0urcl0ut]

Best joke theory 😂

[@bigbrobird116]

Wait a minute. If shadow and blaze are the parents of silver, wouldn't silver recognize shadow and know blaze as his mother?

[@cirnosnumberfan6449]

Silver never met his parents they die after he was born.

[@bigbrobird116]

+Cesar Melendez but blaze is with silver in the silver 06 campaign.

[@cirnosnumberfan6449]

+Bigbrobird 11 Well Blaze isn't Silver's mother and also Shadow is 50 years old Blaze is 14 you can go ahead and think about that.

[@bigbrobird116]

+Cesar Melendez shadow doesn't physically age, pervert. Also why are you fighting against me when in poking a hole in the theory that you don't even believe. Common sense please. I don't have a side ether. I believe in both theroies. I just think there is a hole I gamerguyd's theroy.

[@cirnosnumberfan6449]

+Bigbrobird 11 I'm on either side too both theories could be possible but I have my own theory the only resemblance we have to Silver is Venice the hedgehog he could be Silver's dead father or his long lost brother.

[@calacalamari3977]

As much as I am a die hard shadaze fangirl, why can't Silver's parents just be two random people who did the do and had a child? :,)

[@acespade_7]

Cr1t1cal Hershey thats probobly right

[@Dondre__]

Cr1t1cal Hershey Shadaze?

[@calacalamari3977]

Dondre Shadaze = Shadow x Blaze

[@lullabysorrow5746]

yessssss that's what i always thoughtttt, i hate when people always try to say any new char is someone's child or relative.

[@jamainegardner4193]

because then they would have to add in other characters to create an origin story and since SEGA was too lazy to do that we can't make theories on Silver's past without getting the elephant out of the room?

[@JT-cc7wc]

Look guys, We gotta realize. SILVER ISN'T EXACTLY SLOW. In fact, He seems to be pretty fast. In 06, He's seen to be faster than TAILS, Who keeps up with sonic on a daily basis. He literally RACES against sonic MULTIPLE times, Sometimes winning, In Rivals. He also raced in the 3ds version of Sonic Generations. The only reason people actually think he is slow... Is because in 06, A few characters are faster than him. Who are these characters? A PRINCESS FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION THE "ULTIMATE LIFE FORM" And the FASTEST THING ALIVE. Come on, that's not very fair to say just because of these things, he's outright SLOW.

[@ghosttoast2]

Ikr

[@ThatsPrettyDude]

True. Silver is fast

[@sonicthehedgehog6609]

Yh

[@sonicthehedgehog6609]

A PRINCESS FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION IS BLAZE, THE”ULTIMATE LIFE FORM” IS SHADOW AND THE FASTEST THING ALIVE IS SONIC

[@jocoolshow]

Answer? Two random hedgehogs. His parents have no relevance to the story whatsoever as far as we know so it kind of doesn't matter who they are. Like Sonic, it would be nice to know who his parents are but it doesn't actually matter in the grand scheme of things

[@Lenare]

Exactly.

[@s0urcl0ut]

Probably the most likely response but also the most boring. Its much more fun to imagine that his ancestors are from modern times and are well known characters

[@rashmaakter721]

1000001100101111111000

[@mysterylover58]

You can meet his parents in "Sonic The Hedgehog Issue 30." His dad's a robot. Weird, isn't it?

[@guacamolefartsauce5934]

mysterylover58 *Strange, isn’t it.

[@SolarWola]

theory: Past:Shadow Present:Sonic Future:Silver remember just a theory ;)

[@kanoukakenn2320]

Mr.Whiskers The Cat A GAME THEORY

[@jamainegardner4193]

that's not a theory. that was actually in '06, so it's fact.

[@vontecore]

jamaine gardner but sonic 06 isn't canon

[@sonicrunn3r895]

How Silver actually timetravels: Silver runs fast past a sign *Past* Gotta go fast!

[@iH8Mercy]

Wait then wouldn't that mean sonic was in silver's time in the future

[@TrevimohPlus]

Shadow would never date amy 1. Amy doesnt have much of a relationship with shadow. 3.shadow never really interacted with amy and he never has. Plus sega comfirmed in one of their live streams and i quote "shadow likes cats" or what ive heard

[@noobscoop4293]

They did interact with eachother, in SA2 amy reminded shadow of marias wish and actually played the biggest role in convincing him to save the world

[@trenchcoatgaming2893]

shadaze are sonics parents and sonamy are silvrs parents

[@connorkenway5452]

What happened to "2."?

[@malcolmandrews2779]

For what I know he don't seem like he likes cats at all, plus he never interacts with anyone not Blaze, Amy, or Sonic no one.

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

Thanks for the support guys!

[@delax7491]

I know who's Silver's parents are I finally got it all in my head

[@_zhn_]

I choose Gamer Guy

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

Then be sure to vote! ;)

[@_zhn_]

+GamerGuyd7Aces sorry I don't know how to. LEL

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

+Ideas Not so bad you just click the I button up top

[@gamejitzu]

Scourge never discussed the power similarities. What people tend to overlook is that Sonic can control the wind to an extent. You could say SIlver's telekineses is actually him using telekinetic wind, and using telekinesis on whateve's caught in his wind.

[@OceanisZone]

I don't really agree with either theory although I'm more inclined to lean towards the scourge theory. You can't really base your research on the Archie comics cannon because Shadow and Blaze making a connection there or inter-species breeding being possible doesn't really apply to the main cannon of the games. Also referencing Dragon Ball Z kind of makes your retort about Silver disappearing with Sonic's death less powerful seeing that in Dragon Ball Z a character interfering with the past creates an alternate timeline rather than a paradox. So if you are going to use Dragon Ball than you should probably accept that Silver changing the past wouldn't alter his future or cause him to pull a Marty Mcfly and disappear on us.

[@theowodepot7992]

Or do what fry did in futurama

[@personalpandatube]

24 Silvaze and Sonaze fans disliked. (Don't take this as an offense, it's supposed to be for humor.)

[@xgoldenemeraldx9844]

You’ve got Wattpad????? GREAT ME TOO

[@xgoldenemeraldx9844]

Aidan Mcnelis oh! That’s so weird haha. But I was talking to the other guy

[@cryingtroll5700]

13:03 "Silver can't run fast" (Shows montage of Silver running fast in the Sonic Rivals game) "Silver can't run fast, I swear!" O_O

[@abandonedchannel6251]

even if the comics are based off of the games and are approved by Sega that doesn't technically make them Cannon since Sega or Sonic team did not make them. it's kind of like saying that the creator of the Dragon Ball series approves of Dragon Ball AF or Dragonball Absalon yeah he approved of them but they're not canon.

[@dendo6336]

Yeah I don't really remember Mina Mongoose ever appearing in the Games.Or Nicole ever being used. Not to mention the Creator said shadow isn't related.Had he not said this I would be more lenient with the idea. I mean I love internet theories but a fact is a fact.They aren't related.

[@abandonedchannel6251]

+Dendo64 honestly the last true Cannon thing that Sega has actually done with Sonic Lost World and even then we don't know if that truly follows the same continuity as Sonic Generations. it's still Cannon but we don't know if it still follows the same continuity. same with Sonic the Hedgehog 4

[@dendo6336]

Deven Pautz This my friend is why time travel should not be used unless you're creating new timelines like in Dragon Ball.All it does is confuse the audience.

[@abandonedchannel6251]

+Dendo64 even with creating timelines that still confusing as hell. but at least it's less confusing.

[@bubblegumbitch1465]

+Dendo64 Sally and Bunnie appeared in Sonic Spinball though.

[@premydaremy]

I think both theories are well thought out and very believable, and they both have their own strengths and weaknesses. As a personal preference, I'd have to go with the first theory, not because I think it's more or less believable, but simply because I personally like that theory better. It would be nice to see that worked into the main cannon.

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

Thanks man! And You mean Shadow and Blaze being the parents?

[@premydaremy]

***** Yes

[@s0urcl0ut]

@@GamerGuyd7Aces I liked both theories but found holes in both sets of logic. Interested in what you think. In Scourge's theory, he has overlooked the time travel laws that he uses to explain Silver's "temporal disassociation". Sonic is killed by Mephiles, which would mean Silver ceases to exist. Silver can't disassociate from his own timeline until after he changes the future, and his ceasing to exist wouldn't change anything with a butterfly effect. His timeline would play out the same without him in it. As for your theory, you sir, have forgotten Blaze's age, Silver's biology and his memories. 1) surely he will remember his own mother and his parents are both stated as "deceased" which wouldn't be possible if Blaze is his closest companion. 2) if Silver is of feline descent, it stands to reason he would have at least one catlike physical trait (whiskers, claws, a long tail etc) but nope, he's pure hedgehog. 3) Blaze and Silver are both 14 years old. In the unlikely event that she ages exponentially different due to her home universe, it is even less likely that she will mother a child who ages 14 years without her aging one. You both raised excellent points and I think Shadow could possibly be the father despite the creator's statement to the contrary because I've found holes in Sega's continuity before (ie Scourge's video on Sega's broken moon theory not being scientifically possible due to gravity's behaviour). Also when Elise says "nobody will remember the Solaris incident after the flames are extinguished" yet its eventually revealed that Sonic, Shadow, Silver and Blaze remember. So yeah, I'm not too worried by what the staff of Sega are saying lol

[@s0urcl0ut]

@@GamerGuyd7Aces Amy's connection with Silver is a good point Scourge made as well, but I'll admit I'm biased due to my own theory:....... Shadow + Shade from the Dark Brotherhood Hedgehogs and Echidnas are biologically far similar than cats and hedgehogs. They're of the same family tree. Shade also shares the teleportation ability and its plausible the Nocturnis clan was experimenting with ESP or PK on its people. She also doesn't appear to age from her time in the Twilight Cage (listed as 4000 years old) which would give her and Shadow similar immortality. Shadow, Shade and Silver are all colours ranging in the "black and white" spectrum which is also interesting (though admittedly, a pretty weak argument on its own. I just thought it was noteworthy). I believe that it's most likely Shadow and Shade are ancestors of Silver and it works well as them being parents OR distant ancestors due to their immortality.

[@ghosttoast2]

@@s0urcl0ut why are you always here

[@fatalwaffle1715]

Shadow: No I am you father. Silver: NOOOOOOOOO!

[@shyofdaswamp4680]

There is a possibility that one of Shadow's descendants and Sonic's descendants got together and had offspring at one point

[@blehblblehbl7535]

I am sooo glad its not Shadamy

[@angelcraft9828]

I am Fatima Bonilla changed my account and shadow and Amy arent his parents plus they will never get together

[@ITBOHIO]

agreed☺☺☺☺☺☺

[@s0urcl0ut]

Idk would be nice to see Amy move on instead of hopelessly pursuing a guy who rather dates humans than his own kind lol

[@jenpro788]

I know right

[@miguelcastillo3723]

I believe Shadow is silver's father but I don't think Amy is the mother or blaze for that matter because blaze was with silver and no I don't count the comics Although imagine how funny the situation to be a silver did find out he was his father Silver: notice me! Shadow:NO Sonic:hey guys how's training going Silver: I don't know let me check hey Dad Shadow: what Silver: you want to train with me Shadow: damn off Silver: about that good

[@ScythGrizz]

You do realize that someone who works at sega said that Silver has no relation to Shadow at all.

[@sambradley5140]

My theory is that Sonic and Amy are Silver’s parents, and I know what you’re thinking: “how come Silver has psychokinesis rather than super speed?” Well I think that Sonic and Amy’s abilities (super sonic speed and ESP-like powers) combine to create psychokinesis, also taking into consideration that Silver has gotten faster over time, and I think that someone, who had the ability to time travel, took Silver into the future as an infant and raised him to defend the world from Iblis, also I think that Sonic and Amy’s relationship has improved over time, originally Amy was a creepy stalker who made Sonic uncomfortable, but now, even though she’s still obsessed with him, Sonic is shown to be more comfortable around her, implying that Amy has realised how clingy she was, so it wouldn’t be far-fetched that Sonic and Amy would become a couple and have a kid. Back to the original point, I think some of u would ask how Silver would get white fur and yellow eyes from parents with blue and pink fur and green eyes, maybe it was just a result of a genetic mutation, or maybe Silver has a twin sibling who has purple fur and blue eyes (because Sonic and Amy both have green eyes and silver has yellow, and the fact that blue and yellow combined makes green and u probably understand where I’m going with this) and who inherited the most traits from Sonic and Amy (particularly, maybe Sonic’s speed) and Silver was left with own traits

[@gabs3096]

plot twist: cream is silver's mother and his father is a random hedgehog just a theory don't kill me

[@Velocity_YT]

The hell? That is the weirdest theory I have ever heard.

[@connorkenway5452]

@@Velocity_YT plot twist:

[@Velocity_YT]

@@connorkenway5452 I know...just sounds a little weird...

[@connorkenway5452]

@@Velocity_YT weirdest plot twist

[@connorkenway5452]

@@Velocity_YT Not weird as Shrek X Shadow like wtfff

[@NintenGril101]

Can anyone link me to where SEGA said Shadow kept his memories from 06 please?

[@JadenTapscott]

In my theory, all 4 of the characters mentioned in this video would ALL be Silver's ancestors.

[@ThisGamingDragon]

Jaden Tapscott I'm curious how. Like Silver is a descendant of both descendants?

[@JadenTapscott]

Sonic, Shadow, Amy & Blaze along with 4 other unknown people could ALL be Silver's great-grandparents.

[@ThePastAnalysis]

Personally, I favor Scourage's account more. I like how he doesn't say that Sonic and Amy are Silver's parents and how he tapped into Amy's psych intuition. XD

[@francescosalzano4553]

Cioè una schizofrenica?

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, The Moment You've All Been Waiting For! For the First Time Ever, I'm doing a Sonic Theory Debate and going head-to-head with The Sega Scourge as we theorize about Silver's True Lineage. Who were his parents? And who were his Ancestors? THIS time YOU guys will decide which theory is the most plausible! Who's side are you on? #TeamGamerGuyd or #TeamScourge? PLEASE WATCH THE FULL VIDEO BEFORE CHOOSING/VOTING! Also Be sure to watch Scourge's Full version of this theory on his channel too, along with his rebuttal,as both of ours are different! Be Sure to Subscribe and Support the growing community of The Sonic Theorists! :)

[@LightNJT]

who is yamcha

[@LightNJT]

#TeamScourge

[@Pinkieshy-ut1dr]

#TeamGamerGuyd

[@dendo6336]

I mean no offence but until the creator changes his mind or messes up in a way that approves your theory about something you have to take it for what it is. Who knows maybe 10 years from now they will be together somehow but until then I'm perfectly happy thinking he's an orphan. Also about 06 being non canon the characters do indeed remember the events of the game as this quote from Sonic Generations proves. "I thought I would never be in Crisis City again" after clearing "Blaze: Piercing the Flames'.Meaning Blaze does indeed remember meaning everyone else more than likely does too.Giving an explanation as to why Shadow would talk to Silver and why Silver would talk to Blaze. This last point may be a weak one but here it is,wasn't shadow trapped for 200 years by omega? I may be wrong about that because honestly time travel confuses me.

[@lindex3970]

Shadaze doesn't exist, be next to a person doesn't meant a relationship OKAY ?

[@Blepster]

Well, now here’s the thing. Silvers title, “Silver the Hedgehog” Titles given to hedgehogs of the series that are fully pure bred

[@koikoi1354]

isnt sonics dad a robot..? and shadow was a lab creation right?

[@Blepster]

KoiKoi There are many sonic dads, and I believe modern sonic doesn’t have a dad, also shadow may have been created in the lab, but he still resembles the hedgehog form, meaning he may be a pure bred, but with heightened and implanted abilities

[@Blepster]

Sorry, it’s never shown that he has a dad*

[@koikoi1354]

@@Blepster oh? i thought it showed his dad in sonic underground. there are lots of possibilities but i dont really think they're purebred

[@Blepster]

KoiKoi Ahh sonic underground is entirely different, and yes what I said about shadow was simply a theory, its not confirmed on what he’s actually made up of

[@karenrayne8310]

my silvaze fanning is officially over ugh!!!

[@ghosttoast2]

That's too bad

[@ladynoname3621]

YAYAAAYY

[@izukumidoriyadeku9846]

I'LL NEVER GIVE UP MAH SHIP

[@bluenazex1598]

Does everyone forget sonic can also use chaos energy

[@bluewolf2166]

I believe the first theory a bit more

[@andimbritish6933]

I believe that the person who said that Shadow wasn’t an ancestor of Silver was just trying to make people think that Shadow wasn’t Silver’s ancestor just so no one will find out who Silver’s parents are. I think Silver’s parents aware Shadow and Blaze.

[@silverthehedgehog6197]

Blaze And Shidow

[@2ChillAce]

does anyone know the song played in in 9:00

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

I Would Give In - Joey Pecoraro

[@gigimeww9437]

When Scourge said that Amy and Shadow couldn't be the parents I was so relived and happy

[@bowserbreaker2515]

The Black Knight thing is dumb. They are separate characters from another world. Silver's parents are probably just 2 random people. Also, Silver and Blaze are the same age. I sincerely doubt that Silver is in anyway related to a main series character.

[@BulletBillSoilder]

What if silver is his own ancestor?

[@v1viana]

😂

[@randomperson7900]

Possible Answer : Shadow had a one night stand with a random character.

[@livingdeaddollsjunky9543]

But sonic team confirmed in a tweet that shadow is not silver son

[@kyoninedy8019]

Bret .E. Fox Exactly It's like why are people still commenting Shadamy and Stuff :/

[@ragnarokstravius2074]

No one ever said that Silver is the Father of Shadow, we already know that Gramps Robotnik made him.

[@willpow05]

Link

[@connorkenway5452]

@@Account-1536 What no they didn't when?

[@Account-1536]

@@connorkenway5452 i don’t even know where I heard it honestly since it was 4 years ago, but it’s definitely not true.

[@beckyd1127]

The key to Sonics speed is his shoes

[@wolfsydproductions9082]

Both theories had great evidence and fabulous presentation! I like how you respect each other's theories and don't insult each other simply because of a different view point! Excellent video boys! But I think I'm with Gamerguyd on this one!

[@TheOfficialHelloKittyPowa]

19:53 is not a theory or story it's a proven fact. Thank you Mr Takashi!

[@rodimusrider8798]

Personally I don't think Silver has any blood connection to the present Sonic cast but I've got to admit both theories are really damn good and bring in ideas I didn't even think about like Amy's tarot cards Honestly I can't deceide

[@Sonic-ly9xu]

In sonic06 why where shadow and silver fighting if there father and son

[@zackturing5748]

Sonic's fast, Amy's fast but silver is slow... I'm calling BS on scourge's theory

[@TheNijikazegirl]

6:45 They seem to have gone back on that because Shadow didn't know who Mephiles was in the boss fight.

[@leiarobinson3549]

Well from what I heard so far, GamerGuyd's theory sounded like it made more sense. And would be super awesome if Shadow and Blaze were Silver's parents. But again like everyone knows, this is just a theory...a rather cool theory though. ;D

[@raquanrogers7774]

this is like science class

[@justincarlbrown1]

""Sega Comics"" and "" Sega Games"" says: Silver is the adopted brother of Queen Blaze in her dimension ... from blazes future.. Silver is not from sonic & shadows dimension at all... So thats not possible.. Silver was an orphan from the future who befriended blaze when they were children and became her sibling.... So he's prince Silver... on relation.. more so Silver would be a half-Cousin or nephew to Sonic more so than a grandson/descendant.. due to Eggman destroying the time stream destroying Sonic's Wife: Queen Sally and Sonic's 2 kids: Sonia the chipmunk. Jr. and Manic the hedgehog Jr....due to this Silver was never born.... at least not directly..... because he was born in blaze's dimension...therefore Eggman destroying the timeline and creating a new alternate versions of sonic. Sega is to blame. . Sega always changes Sonic's biography and family ties..and Sega uses Eggman as a excuse or scape goat for changing all of Sonic's stories without thinking of the fans..... So to answer your question Silver would be a relative of the old 2006 sonic that doesn't exist anymore.. not the 2014 sonic... hope the fans aren't disappointed..

[@honeylemonadearts8852]

how could Sonia be a chipmunk if she's sonic's sister?

[@joel904]

but the queen is not brownish in the show o_O

[@_Galaxy_457]

Yeah but the Archie comic is not a canon.

[@jfunny]

Shadow isn't silver's distant ancestor, he is his father

[@trenchcoatgaming2893]

no hes his grandfather, hes sonics dad,

[@grapejuice8595]

Never watched either of you're videos before this, but Scourge has the more believable theory. GG's relied way too heavily on DBZ and possibilities, while Scourge's was much more straightforward and didn't focus as much on what-ifs. (Though I do believe Shadow and Blaze could have a relationship without Silver in the picture) Also, quick hole in GG's: We can assume Silver's home is Crisis City. I mean, why would he always be flying around in a ransom desolate city when he could be continuing his aid to the future and past? You could say it's because of Iblis, but how exactly would he know Iblis was in this random city? So, if Crisis City is his home, how would he get there, as it can also be assumed that this is in the same dimension of Sonic, and not in Blaze's dimension?

[@ledgendweaver]

The reason I believe it, is because Shadow is basically Vegeta the Edgehog, and Silver is literally godamn Future Trunks

[@ÉmileLaverdure-Vachon]

And Blaze is probably Bulma

[@thebossqueendiaries4875]

Hey I have a theory what if sonic and Amy had descendants and shadow would get close to one of female hedgehogs in the future and have sliver

[@skythehedgehog8987]

I call this debate to a Tie! Both theories are interesting and I’m team GamerScourage (meaning you 2 are both awesome theorists!) EDIT: I did not mean to start as ship between these 2

[@mateovasquez2191]

Awesome Theory😀 but Shadow can run fast also, he just prefers to skate

[@silverthehehedghog2785]

silver can fly fast

[@coldmenace4390]

wait but shadow died in sonic x

[@unknownshadow675]

I do believe Silver is Shadow's direct son. It's quite possible that Blaze could be the mother actually. But I think the mother is a character we haven't and will never see. I think it's better if we never get to see his mother and focus on Shadow and Silver. As a concept Shadow being a father is very jarring. But come 50 years down the line he will mellow out and eventually become friends with Sonic assuming everything doesn't go to hell before then. I think seeing everyone he's ever known and care about die around him slowly would drive Shadow to either A. Kill himself. B. Become the reason the future is destroyed. Or C. He'll just be on the Ark in solitude. I like to assume B is the most practical answer since I can't see Shadow killing himself. So assuming he wrecks the world he'll eventually either be stopped and won't be able to fight anymore or he'll eventually come to realize his mistakes and go off into hiding. For the sake of making things more believable I'll say it's a bit of both. He gets his ass kicked and can still fight but he comes to realize his mistakes and goes into hiding. He'll eventually find a spouse and they have Silver. I assume the mom dies at birth leaving Shadow in a more crippled state then before. So he would give Silver away and go into hiding so that he doesn't have to see anymore death or drama. This is just something I thought of on the spot. So It's probably not very good if you're looking for detailed reasoning. But it's a possibility if you open your mind to it.

[@BasedVegeta]

6:52 Was this ACTUALLY confirmed though?

[@somebread7000]

I loved the theories ! Though I prefer the first one.

[@brokensurge2143]

Me too

[@justinpritt7897]

Same.

[@evablessedlisa9088]

Scourge says Amy's the mom and Gamerguyd says Shadow's the father.

[@killerKedge]

#TeamGamerGuyd

[@mcwarrior1]

Gimme your ring...

[@sholehkachouie4021]

killerhedgehog " l

[@grimshadow4327]

Even though and it's been confirmed the Silver is not related to Shadow it was an interesting Theory and I did enjoy it.

[@rgutierrez123100]

Good theory but wrong, have you forgotten silver was born 200 years from sonics timeline? Very unlikely any of the characters would be parents, maybe ancestors but not parents

[@GamingSucc]

whats the music used during the debate

[@alphawolf6717]

i don't believe blaze is silver's mother no way it would be so strange and yet weird when silver sees blaze you see him blushing when she's around making we all know what that means but yes that is all true shadow and blaze being independent and also loners but I just don't see it happening now shadow and Amy that's a different story than everyone believes shadow and Amy make quite the pair true Amy chase's after sonic alot throughout the years but still I believe that shadow and amy are silver's mother and father just like Vegeta and Bulma are trunks parents even if they both are from the future just think about it is all im asking ik how it sounds but just at least take the time and think about it ppl and while this is still a theory it's also what I believe and also my opinion of what I think is and will always be true at least in my eyes it will be

[@alphawolf6717]

Well like I said I know how it sounds but it's just my opinion of what I think

[@alphawolf6717]

Thank you

[@supreme-kun6023]

Alpha Wolf agreed

[@jeanjeanbaptisted8931]

Alpha Wolf but Amy is like chi chi Chi chi never fell in love with vegeta

[@Thebes342]

Might wanna take off your fan-fiction goggles, because Silver and Blaze have never had any romantic interaction. Not even in 06.

[@GonicWarrior921]

Just a real question, when was it stated that Shadow the Hedgehog wasn't canon to the rest of the series?

[@lenaboswell6415]

I like Blaze and Shadow as Sliver's parents ❤️+💜=💚

[@xgoldenemeraldx9844]

Lena Boswell hell yeah! Me too! (Mainly because it gives a reason for people to ship Shadaze...)

[@trenchcoatgaming2893]

they could be silvers grandparents and sonics parents, making both shadaze and sonamy canon

[@justinpritt7897]

Same! and not to mention that Blaze's tied up hair does have the same shape to that of Silver's "Bangs" if you look closely.

[@ÉmileLaverdure-Vachon]

@@justinpritt7897 I think you are right Shadow=Vegeta Blaze=Bulma Silver=Future Trunks

[@notbadsanta]

Shadow is Silver's father but irdk who the mother is

[@v1viana]

Ikr it’s still unknown

[@playwithastridh1238]

im team gamerguyd ( was that right? )

[@guntervonfurbaugh155]

I honestly would imagine his ancestors and parents wouldn't be anyone we know. I say this having seen Forces demonstrate that there are many neon woodland creatures on that planet, which games prior to it didn't.

[@Kazdow]

I'm team shadamy! :D

[@mistushipper]

Koment :D I'm team Sonamy

[@Kazdow]

................. ok

[@Kazdow]

Mr.Senpai Aka {Lol Lol} he's hermaphrodite! :O

[@calacalamari3977]

Fuck Shadamy lmao

[@lullabysorrow5746]

Can't deny their great fan art though :P , that's what got me XD

[@JulioLopez-te8ni]

In the comics apparently silver ancestors are Shadow and Amy

[@connorkenway5452]

Late reply can you link me to that also I know it is not canon and shadow is not related to sliver soo....

[@ÉmileLaverdure-Vachon]

amy is not

[@BeanBurritoMan22]

I'm on team GamerGuyd7Aces!

[@darthvidar-spiller5343]

I'd say both of your theories are pretty good.

[@robloxgamer-yd8pj]

I'm team gamerguyd because your theory is correct

[@Account-1536]

roblox gamer both theorys are half correct

[@lfuckeggs8604]

no he is not the game developer of shadow cleared that up and said no shadow is not related to silver in any way say "just because the creator of shadow said he is not related to silver doesn't mean it's true" is ridiculous

[@rosendoescobar2512]

I think your both wrong because in the game sonic the heg when shadow had the met his own shadow he looked behind him and it was silver he had to make a choice find it in the game

[@rosendoescobar2512]

But the real question is who is the silver cough* shadow parent but it is eggman

[@Ganer7552]

I'm in team gamerguyd

[@ghost_wipe1]

What's the song at 2:44

[@personalpandatube]

I now feel happy, I ship Shadaze. Shadaze will always last forever, even though in my own Sonic universe, Knuckles and Rouge are Silver's great grandparents.

[@KaizenMethod12]

If a game developer says Shadow isn't related to Silver, he is probably right. That theory was smashed.

[@Nice_Person7379]

He’s a game developer though, not a story teller. Ian Flynn hinted at the possibility of Shadow being Silver’s father (I think)

[@TheBohobemeister]

I don't who to pick both of these theories are amazing #mindblown

[@ITBOHIO]

same

[@infamouse9263]

Honestly what if silver got the shadow treatment I mean we know now in forces Amy is willing to step into a leader position and in 06 shadow had been captured what if since their were no stronger beings around and they needed something to fight Iblis so they mixed shadow and Amy’s DNA it could also explain the whole two hundred years thing saying silver got locked in the pod or that he wasn’t finished fully forming until two hundred years later

[@Raven-626-]

*SPOILER* So both of you used 2 ways to solve this: Who started the bloodline of silver Who are silver's parents

[@Raven-626-]

*Spoliers* Blaze maybe is with Silver to aid him as his mother

[@mackoman25]

I know it's not linked to the video, but I think I have pieced together the, I guess you could call it, the "Shadow Timeline". In Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow is the original Shadow, the ultimate life form. Before he died, he was cloned twice. In Sonic Heroes, one of those clones was set free by Rouge, and the clone from Shadow the Hedgehog (The game, not the hedgehog himself) was set free after Maria was killed. The same clone then continues 'till this day. Apart from Shadow from Sonic Boom, that game just makes no sense.

[@Logers9]

after watching this video both here and on scourges channel I find both theory's equally logical and possible but personally from my knowledge of psychology and sociology, the pairing of Shadow and Blaze makes a lot of sense given the similar personality types, both of which are obviously independent but using the MBTI system it is incredibly debatable and I hold of on using that system for blaze and shadow as I don't remember blaze all to well but I do think they are both use introverted and judging but I would debate perceiving and the other two functions are what are throwing me through a loop, but even if they are completely different a relationship could still function and on the other hand the chemistry between Sonic and Amy could work out if expanded upon given that the "Sonamy" theory make's more sense factually and biologically(keep in mind this may just be a useless factor as we don't know if this matters in this universe or not) and also the conformation from Takashi. But just because he said "no" doesn't mean that he was either telling the truth or simply hasn't put as much thought into it as we have however unlikely that may be and also who's to say his answer may change or if its cannon? And personally the Sonamy theory is to simplistic and seems to be more probable but it relied a bit to much on deductive and inductive reasoning in scourges theory while the shadow and blaze theory used some abduction and keen observation which is always the best way to get reliable results is to always observe and not just make up stories and assumptions but in conclusion the shadow and blaze theory makes more sense and is more pleasing. maybe because it was never one that I thought possible

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

Thanks Craig for agreeing ! Blaze is just my favorite female Sonic character so I did extensive research on her and found out that she and Shadow are so similar that they were actually supposed to be 1 character (Prototype Blaze).

[@ÉmileLaverdure-Vachon]

​@@GamerGuyd7Aces i think you are right

[@ÉmileLaverdure-Vachon]

​@@GamerGuyd7Aces Shadow and Blaze are the Vegeta and Bulma of the Sonic universe

[@Kodsta118]

If u guys think that Silver is the son of Shadow the Hedgehog an Rouge the Bat ur wrong Silver's family is unknown an maybe dead in the future only sega knows

[@RedFoxReviewer]

Shadow X Blaze, I ship it. As an avid player of the games and reader of the comics I completely agree, the comics have much more depth than the games not to mention all the characters have a lot more development.

[@trenchcoatgaming2893]

how about shadow x blaze being sonics parents and sonamy being silvers parents

[@joewilliams-un8vu]

Silver was trying to cause the grandfather paradox then considering he kept trying to kill Sonic in Sonic 06

[@blekiscooler]

SONAMY 4 LIEF

[@cheetooooooooooo]

in a comic i forgot witch one but you where able to see everyone's life less bodies on the wall in silver's time

[@raptorzeraora2632]

Wait I have theroy think of dragon ba... u stole my theroy . who is bulma in sonic's world.

[@rynobehnke8289]

He has more than likely blob like feed with out any toes this is supported by Tikal and big's feed that we can see through there sandals and promotional art from sa1 that shows tails and Amy with the same kind of toeless blob feed

[@raptorzeraora2632]

The one who always changes her KZbin name are u a sonic noob?

[@kanoukakenn2320]

Avatar Raptor umm rouge their bust size (except of the saggy part)

[@raptorzeraora2632]

SSB Goku lol

[@ITBOHIO]

Avatar Raptor 👍 💡

[@Iron8127]

15:46 ok, I'll go with Scourge here but only cause i don't support Sonamy ship. I'm a Sonaze(SonicXBlaze) shipper(it's shown in my profile picture for crying out loud)

[@Iron8127]

Me after finding out Scourge shipped amy and Sonic: nevermind! Team GamerGuyd you win!

[@cmoldaccount8768]

but GamerGuyd7Aces it has been established by the fanbase that Blaze is Silver's girlfriend so how does that work?

[@SonicPikachu]

+The Hedgehog Channel / Canmo Entertainment "The FANBASE" sigh your new here aren't you

[@ragnarokstravius2074]

Incest.

[@ÉmileLaverdure-Vachon]

Blaze is not Silver's girlfriend

[@jamainegardner4193]

First, I'll say that the one with the heavier evidence and thus a better argument was Sega Scourge. I'm sorry, but the alternate dimension thing was really nothing more than headcanon, but that stuff about personality traits of the characters and that last part before the end of the video were good. Scourge however brought up the genetic mutations over extended periods of time. Both theories *are* plausible, but Scourge won the debate. Second,13:04 did you really just state that Shadow isn't fast without the hover shoes? It makes more sense for the character that he just wears them out of sentimentality or convenience, and Treesicle has already brought up that Shadow is potentially much faster than Sonic. Third, who the hell even said Silver even knows the identities of his ancestors? Fourth, here are my two possible theories: a. (weaker theory)He is a descendant of Shadow and Amy,( doesn't mean they ever had kids together, hell for all we know Shadow could've done it with a kid or relative of Amy's before getting imprisoned in the future) which is supported by the similarities he has to them, such as implied family ties with Shadow,plus sharing some character traits and powers, and his personality, speed and connection to Psychic powers he shares with Amy. Partially debunked by the fact that Amy loves Sonic and that Shadow would've been sealed pretty early on after Iblis is unleashed. b. (Stronger theory) He wasn't created through sexual reproduction, but actually through Mephiles, which is supported by the fact that We don't see anyone in the Iblis future other than Silver, Blaze and Iblis (which when combined with what Blaze says about him, the scene in the town square with Blaze and the invisible crowd and his interactions with the people and places of the past leads me to believe he doesn't know how to deal with social interactions with anyone but Blaze), although that isn't all. Mephiles was also around after Shadow got sealed, was stated to have similar time manipulation powers (by Shadow), could be inferred that he has Telepathy (due to his Boss fights), is stronger than Base Shadow, and the most concrete part of the theory is that *he has been shown to be able to create life before* . If you remember, in '06 there were two types of "Iblis" monsters, the lava looking kind(weaker variation) and the Purple kind (stronger variation). Assuming that the Purple kind were actually created by Mephiles himself, along with the mini and giant monsters he creates in his boss fights show he can create life. The only thing that could refute this theory is asking why the Mephiles monsters attack Silver, which could merely be him trying to make it look like Iblis had Purple monsters too, or Mephiles testing out his strongest creation's power. b.(short and simple) Mephiles created Silver to destroy Sonic when the time came and Silver has too many similar traits in terms of power and dedication to a goal along with there being evidence that Mephiles has created life before and since.

[@vincentmuren4695]

I always thought Sonic, Shadow, and Silver were brother, my cousin told me that

[@SoulZERO15]

Wait so shadow and sonic remembers the events of 06 even tho the timeline was erased? I actually didn't know that

[@maryjxne4881]

That's the freaking first time I heard and saw shadow *apologize, feel guilty, looks a bit sad* 😂👌

[@urmumgay9476]

4:26 that pic is so funny

[@CooperThief]

goddamn it another Sonamy shipper get him out of here

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

Lol

[@CooperThief]

+GamerGuyd7Aces don't forget call 911 someone should also get the med packs and some morphine this is gonna get ugly also your one of the only big youtubers that replied to me thanks

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

No problem man! ;)

[@leopardprints14]

:( no shadamy....

[@NKL3085]

God forbid we mistake the guy who did genetics research for someone who respects logic and knowledge

[@yanivigo2987]

And how can blaze be the mom if silver likes blaze and they start to become a thing

[@brokensurge2143]

They never became a thing he always gets friend zone also fanbase crap

[@v1viana]

Ikr