BIG Amp Comparison! (Rockerverb vs JVM410H vs Dual Rectifier vs 6505)

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[@Whizzinby777]

Peavey just sitting there during the clean demo like “its all fun and games now, wait until we cut the gain on”

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Lol!

[@if6turnedouttobe9]

Lol...Best Comment Award...

[@marcusbarnes5929]

100%

[@beefyboi64]

So true 😂

[@svajesz]

Aaaand Peavey earned the 2nd place after the Orange. 👍

[@tomluna261]

I’ll always love rectifiers... but that Rockerverb sounds killer!!

[@gregorywilson3318]

Absolutely!!! ☯️

[@dmvancorbach]

Me too...still have one but I am seriously considering a Rockerverb! They sound fantastic

[@guilhermefontana6499]

I came for the JVM and fell in love for the Rockerverb. Awesome!

[@khay2210]

The rockerverb just sings even though I still prefer the JVm for my style.

[@awol1209]

First may I say the talent this guy has is outrageous. His riffs are just so creative. Great player. In this demo I really loved the Rockerverb overall. Best cleans to my ears and it shined brighter until the heavy clips then I have to give the edge to the Peavey there, but the Orange held its own.

[@NUNUA]

Marshall JVM or Orange Rockerverb for me. Both were great.

[@gregorywilson3318]

Every-time the Marshall left me feeling like it was missing something compared to the Orange Rockerverb mk111! So, definitely the Orange for me! Clarity with the perfect amount of saturation! ☯️

[@davidforbes72]

I have the JVM and love it, but that Orange Rockerverb impressed me a lot, especially the clean sound. On the other hand, the Mesa somehow disappointed me

[@dillonwilson5126]

same boat here, but i think the peavey really fell short

[@mattltech]

Mesa amps live in the sweet spot are unlike anything else. Absolute beasts. The dynamics/feel of the sound are something you just can't capture with a mic. I own one and I had a Peavey 6505+. I didn't care for the Peavey.

[@ruanddu]

Agree. The distortion sounds too fuzzy for lack of better words for me on this demo.

[@mattltech]

@@ruanddu I am kinda digging that Orange though. Never owned one, but might.

[@ruanddu]

@@mattltech Sam here! So versatile. I remember playing a small Orange tube combo amp years ago and being blown away by the clean channel. So sparkly clean. Think it was a combo with a 10 inch speaker but can't remember exact model.

[@cope847]

I love the aggressive in your face mid range of a Marshall.

[@djentlover]

The Marshall gave the best stank face

[@calebneff5777]

Man, that Rockerverb clean tone was stunning. A clean channel so good you'd never know it was on a high gain amp.

[@TheChadPad]

Orange kills em all for cleans, and stands toe to toe with them for high gain. Orange ftw baby. That Peavey with the active pickups doe...

[@AmdusciasBaal]

They're all fantastic to be honest. But the mids of the Orange have an extra fatness and warmth that makes it the winner in my ears.

[@eyedunno8462]

I LOVE the JVM and a 6505 is one of the most fun amps to play, ever - the Mesa is chunky but needs a boost to get tightness and erase the fizz - but I have to admit the Rockerverb blows them out of the water. The way the Orange goes from dirty to crunch to lead with a single gain knob is testament of good design. There's no problem with mud or cutting through either. Any other amp here is compromised save for the Orange. It does it all without any downsides.

[@stallionstudios]

Agreed, all great amps.

[@natethompson1257]

Both the Marshall JVM and the Orange Rockerverb were the best imo. Loved the midrange punch of the Marshall and the Orange aced it in both the clean and dirty tones.

[@stallionstudios]

Marshall's a great for pushing midrange which at the end of the day is what projects best for guitar to hit the audience. I find they are easy to mix within a metal band.

[@cloroxbleach118]

i hated the marshall. i like the orange midrange better. i liked the mesa the most though

[@spookdoggtv6917]

@@cloroxbleach118 see i hated the mesa the most it was too harsh and too much gain, i liked the warmth and smoothness of the marshall the most, the peavey and the orange were very similar to each other i liked them both too, just goes to show, different strokes for different folks!

[@ProducerDudes]

dude, I want a Rockerverb now. holy smokes

[@SonicDriveStudio]

I get that!

[@martymidgard]

This is such a great shootout! You definitely have a knack for these amp comparisons, don't ever stop!

[@perpetualgrimace]

The Rockerverb has been one of my dream amps ever since I found a kemper profile of it (which has become my go to lead tone). But I'm surprised by just how much I preferred it in every category except for metal. These are all killer amps and yet the Rockerverb blows them out of the water for the most part imo.

[@tobins6800]

I disagree withe the metal. I think it sounded different to be sure. And that is actually a great thing. I disliked the Marshall the most for pretty much all because of the upper mid voicing. Peavey is dial to taste.

[@perpetualgrimace]

@@tobins6800 I like it for some types of metal! Just didn't prefer the metal tones for this particular shootout

[@migueldelatorre9475]

@@tobins6800 what you described about Marshall is correct and is the principal reason is the best amp since in a band situation it gets heard.

[@daiganzen7794]

I felt The JVM held its own really well against the Mesa and the Peavey at high gain

[@stallionstudios]

It does. I dont even need a boost petal for it to push the gain.

[@tianlee3487]

Awesome riffs! I’ve always been a Mesa fan but I have to admit the Orange won this round overall, with the peavey (being a one trick pony) winning in the high gain stakes. You really need to get yourself a multi-watt though, I’ve had both and the multi-watt is less mushy and a bit more bold. Definitely an improvement.

[@SonicDriveStudio]

I LOVE my dual for how it sounds but I also have a mini Recto, that does the multi-watt sound. Awesome amps!

[@dadude7]

What an excellent video. No bullshit. Just straight up tones. Subbed.

[@freddywonka9539]

Dude, that's exactly the video I was waiting for! I really love to hear all four amps through the same IR, so I could really hear the difference. Your content is simply great, so I hope you keep on going :)

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Thank you!

[@nekrovulpes]

These videos just consistently prove that like 90% of amp tone is actually the cab/IR lol.

[@briegleruyet4139]

Not agree. Orange is interesting, Marshall, not enough good, Mesa incredible and 6505 synthethic of all.

[@matthewlewis281]

Lord I agree with you 100%.

[@JediCrackSmoke]

It's true. Kohlekeller studios proved that beyond any shadow of a doubt.

[@thefivepoints]

These videos just consistently prove that no one is right or wrong and amp tone is all about personal preference.

[@jaymzguitarrez4160]

100% agree. the IR environment creates the audio equivalent of regression to the mean, i.e., emphasizes similarities more than differences. Need real cabs for this to truly reflect the amps. That said, Great video!! I think the 'surprise' was how well certain amps performed above (my) expectation but fear that is the result of the regression to mean process described above. For me, biggest surprise was how well the 50 watt Orange performed. Simply excellent over all 4 scenarios. Next biggest surprise was 410H 'chug' in scenario 4. As expected, Dual Rec's presence / 'in yer face thing' nailed the first 3 scenarios even with the IR normalization. Not expected was Rec in scenario #4. (Does that dual Rec switch to solid state in Ch #3?) Think Ch 4 on the Roadster would have been the more honest comparison. Those Boogies are real beasts.

[@Jeedan]

JVM with the baritone has so much mid range grind i love it.

[@alvarofelipe_sepu]

That Rockerverb dude!!!! I’m impress!!! What a great video, as usual.

[@Reptilian-Lord]

I love my Rockerverb 100 MK3. Such a versatile amp.

[@silverjaw138]

The attenuator is gold

[@titan_codes]

In this demo the Rockerverb and the 6505 sound the best to my ears. The mesa sounds like a can of bees

[@andermarg]

Dual Recs sound like that. It is so yesterday's sound with the scooped mids. Horrible for leads.

[@LightCyrus]

@@andermarg It's so yesterday's way of saying "it's so yesterday's."

[@gustanoid]

@@LightCyrus it's so yesterday's thing to be gay

[@LightCyrus]

@@gustanoid lol

[@stevp372]

Rockerverb for me. Starting to think I should’ve bought one of those instead of a triple rectifier

[@BazonBlades]

I never realized the Rockerverb had such a chimey and enjoyable clean tone. I thought the Marshall was thin sounding on all settings. I can't stand playing through a Recto. I have owned multiple Recto heads and hated every one. The 5150 would be my go to for high gain. Although I actually prefer the more upper mid-range voiced 5150 II. Again, you do the best amp comparison vids out there. Excellent work.

[@jasoncaballero8251]

What a great shoutout!!! I had the JVM for several years now and I never needed something else since:)

[@jefferyleo76]

The orange articulates all the notes even on the heavy gain sections. I believe it to be the best all around and the most pleasing tonally. Second is the Marshall.

[@dwightlove4870]

Just got the rockerverb mkiii 50 2x12 combo, best amp I've ever played the attenuator is great 25w mode is plenty for most gigs. Throw your pedals away.Extremely well built amp 💪

[@codycreepcore]

after checking this channel out more thoroughly over the past few months, I want that Orange head.

[@wyeth1023]

I don't regret paying nearly 2200 for mine, it's tone is just incredible.

[@reesebobby1680]

I can't be the only one that thought the Rockerverb & JVM410H were the heaviest and rawest sounding. British amps stay on top.

[@pclindholm]

Wow man, those rockerverb cleans sound so balanced on their own and are perfect in a mix. I had no idea! Thanks for the great video!

[@adam_wynne]

What I learned from this video: Rockerverb and JVM are still the greatest guitar amplifiers ever created (with JVM taking the biscuit for me personally). Dual Rectifier still fucking sucks w/out boost or OD. 6505 is still the champion of "that modern metal tone" (although I still much prefer the JVM overall for high gain) AND has a surprisingly not-shit clean sound! Awesome stuff 😁

[@rogalee14]

The Orange had the most “I can’t be denied” thing. Great driven clean sound and shimmery. The JVM is just sick with nastiness and slur. The Recto thumps. The Peavey snarled, and its gain structure is filthy. Whatever amp is the greasiest is the one I choose, and that’s the Marshall.

[@tonedriverss8629]

What an awesome , well done shootout ! Not to offend anyone , but the mesa sounds so much like a Boss Metal Zone pedal . Maybe not a bad thing ? Maybe thats the tone it was built for ? Orange and Marshall , then Peavey for me . All great amps , each with their own with awesome tones . The maestro here knows how to get the best out of each . Epic vid , bro .

[@sXeSnowmansXe]

Main takeaways from this - the Rockerverb is an incredibly versatile amp, and the 6505 loves EMG's.

[@FrostBite3232]

I agree, also I think Rockerverb has the nicest clean tone out of all of them. Personally I love the 6505 because it has a sharp bright bite tone to it. However unlike the Rockerverb, that is the only thing 6505 can do sadly.

[@olredbeard420]

The rockerverb is my favorite but I was really surprised by how great the Peavey sounded on the bluesy crunch setting!

[@natancampos92]

Me too, was expecting it to sound worse with those settings

[@monkeydonkey6246]

22:25 what a riff 😗❤❤❤

[@barged5466]

Monster riff

[@Astaroth_Belial]

The order of the clean sounds goes from best to worst. Darker sounding high gain amps are where it’s at for having both a great clean & distortion channel.

[@miahmcbride5415]

It seemed as if the 5150 had the High Gain input being used. That actually adds another leg of the preamp tube for distortion. The Normal Gain is probably better for getting ultimately clean on the 5150. That being said, its not my go to clean amp. :)

[@TheNocturnalEvil]

For cleans I'll say it's a tie between the Rockerverb and the Dual Rectifier. It's chimey British cleans vs spanky American cleans, both of them are good in their own way. For crunch it was Rockerverb all the way, it's like a time machine to those good old 70s crunch tones. It was like instant Woodstock in the room. The JVM deserves the second place for crunch tones. For heavy rock and metal the 6505 slays the other amps though, it's a beefy monster of a high gain amp.

[@OW12354]

Well said

[@Turbo-D]

i'm very lucky to own all 4 amps but a roadster instead of a rectifier...jvm and orange for versatility and mesa + 5150 for that one particular sound that they are both known for💪👍

[@Dicktoben]

Same. Plus a Revv generator 120

[@RDHamel]

That Mkiii is stunning clean. I'm sure th drive sounds have their uses... but man, the cleans.

[@razzledingle]

The winner on this comparison was the excellent playing/recording. I'd take any of these amps, but to my surprise, the Rockerverb proved to be the most versatile and sounded best in a mix.

[@claytongouin5605]

Damn, as always another amazing video. Thanks for putting so much work into filming, writing, reamping, recording, editing, mixing. Your riffs and the awesome A/B comparisons are so helpful.

[@beefyboi64]

They all performed well for the crunch test. Preferred the orange and mesa for clean tones. And the orange absolutely killed in the high gain test; that focused bottom end is so damn nice.

[@RenaldoRamai]

Excellent video, especially the A/B comparisons with and without impulse. Next time please let us hear the exact same riff for each amp for the quick change comparisons. Thanks a lot.

[@kevinanthony3144]

Ugh that marshall sounds amazing overall. I think i like the clean tone of the orange more but damn the clean on that is sick too. Gotta get me one

[@groopuskul]

Wow, thanks for this video, I like every amp, depending on the riff played. To me, the rockerverb and 6505 seem to be the two most versatile and full sounding most of the time . I was hoping the rectifier to shine a bit more.

[@shahzebqader1268]

I'm in love with the rockerverb clean tone!

[@babtanian]

I'm a Mesa guy through and through, but I might need to get my hands on a Rockerverb. The overdrive tone is undeniable.

[@nava1020]

I love my JVM410h so much!!!!

[@LateNightYinzer]

I own 2 of the three and have played all three. They're all excellent. I have modded the JVM I own, but, I have to say..the green clean on that amp is just so fantastic. So much so I really don't even use the other modes, just clean green and OD2 orange. It fits me perfectly, cleans up nicely, and sounds amazing against even my Friedman and other boutique amps, even if it has all these other features I'll never use.

[@PWalden762]

Guitar nerds here on KZbin know about Orange, but I'm always surprised at how many guitar players I meet out in the real world don't really get them. I bought a Mesa 4x12 cab from a guy the other day and we talked about gear for a minute, I told him I sold my 5150 to get a great deal on an Orange Rockerverb Mk 3 and he thought I was crazy, he was under the impression that Orange amps can't really do metal. Crazy, but hey, more for me. You should try to get your hands on a Hughes and Kettner Triamp..

[@zacharysmithingell5460]

I've always loved the 6505, just a super tight beast. The jvm was shockingly monstrous, and I think had my favorite ultra high gain sound. The Mesa was so much more fizzy that I expected, bummer. But overall, the orange did everything really well, and the clean blew everything else out of the water, it wasn't even close for me.

[@vidmohit4684]

Amazing comparison video. Perfect layout and showcase riffs. I am partial to a perfectly dialed in rectifier but the orange actually blew me away.. to my ears it has similar characteristics but less fizzy, sounded awesome clean and overdriven.

[@JimtheCornFarmer]

I really appreciate your reviews. You go through all kinds of sounds where most people wouldn't especially when comparing amps. Much appreciated!!!!

[@dickieradd]

I think I can finally see why so many metal bands record with a 6505, just absolutely tight and perfect. Mesa was a disappointing fizz factory.

[@M.S-Music]

The Mesa is a horrible fluff fest on its own, but can turn usable with a good drive pedal. But personally i´v always avoided them. The Peavey and Orange are the best sounding amps here.

[@dickieradd]

@@M.S-Music great advice. I'm going back and froth between engl fireball and evh 5150 stealth. Any ideas? I want modern driven metal similar to Peavey

[@danielguest7841]

I like how you explained everything beforehand. It gives me a better idea of what I'm hearing. Either way, you always makes great videos.

[@RushDouglas]

If I can play Death metal : I choice Mesa Dual; If I can play Hard rock 70's: I choice Rockreverb from Orange; If I can play heavy metal tigth like Iced earth or Symphony X, I choice Peavy. But, if I can play everyone and Motohead, I choice JVM....heheheh

[@billybobhouse9559]

I was mainly watching for the Marshall but now instead I want that Rockerverb!

[@marcmuller3429]

my favorites are 410h and Rockerverb. Great comparison. Why can you play so awesome licks???

[@mathisto21]

Hi mate…Ive been a long time subscriber and viewer of your channel yet this is my first comment on any of your videos. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate all of the hard work you put into your videos. You obviously take great pride and attention to detail doing your comparisons. Truly I have repeatedly watched many of your videos but none more than this one. All I can say is thanks for sharing your amazing talent, enthusiasm and time with us out there in KZbin land…cheers from Australia

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Thanks, that means a lot!

[@rileyioacura]

That was freaking epic!! Hell yes dude!! All of them had unique quality’s but for me I would say upon till the final baritone mix I would have said orange or Marshall but then at the end all of them are needed

[@philsmith3019]

Loving the tone on the mesa. The low end flub and high end fizz earns a lot of haters, which is an added bonus. The others sound more aggressive and tight, but are also fatiguing to the ear. The smooth, scooped mesa tone is great for slow low ch00ggz.

[@fjk1138]

Your comparison videos are always awesome. That clean riffage was really beautiful also. Thumbs way up! As a diehard Mesa user, I was impressed by all the other non-Mesa amps for sure.

[@jeffreygelbmann3091]

3 main parts to a rig -guitar is for the player’s feel and also contributes like 5-10% of the tone Amp- to set create the type of gain you want for your tone.10% of your tone Cab - the actual thingy that makes the fricken noise dumb dumb - 80% of your tone

[@patovega]

Orange Clean tone is awesome, the best distorted sound for me was the peavey in ISO in the mix they all sound very similar, mesa sounded the worst for me in ISO but sounds great in a mix, still think peavey sounds a little better

[@eriklamelakillingspree7690]

6505 is just such a gain monster. Very nice.

[@fernandojavierdarder487]

Great video, I'd love to hear all 4 amps through the same cab IR for a more accurate comparison in the future! Anyway, I'd pick ( and already did) mesa dr any day of the week, it just sounds huge and unique, so balanced it's ridiculous.

[@cscarp4503]

Wow this was amazing. I have to say I think you did a great job making all of the amps sound terrific. Were any of the heavy rock/metal bits boosted with anything?

[@CaseyJust]

Great video! The way you did the back to back comparisons were top notch. Subscribed!

[@if6turnedouttobe9]

When u get to that level, they all sound great but the Peavey 6505/ 5150 jumps out and grabs ya...

[@rolojared]

Nothing to say except this was awesome. You have the best and more professional comparatives between amplifiers. Also I liked a lot that you used as different IR's as the same IR to show the tone variations. Maybe I'd like you make the same kind of videos, with the same order and quality, but now with amps sims. Currently, many people every time are using VST's instead of real amps to produce music in home studios, which is my case, because is a lot cheaper than the analog gear. Cheers from Chile.

[@jerryleokirkman9460]

I liked the orange best for the clean and lower gains, 6505 for the heavy drop tune stuff, and I'm a 5150 iii guy

[@nskone9508]

It was a pleasure to watch this. Killer riffs.. Orange sounds very open and balanced, especially cleans tones. Marshall has more mid range and more bite compared to orange. Dual rectifier has scoped mids and peavey sounds darker overall. Thanks for making these videos.

[@PedalScience]

Lol that poor 6505 clean channel.. so unloved in this harsh world of epic tones, but it strikes back with the gain!!

[@LESHAVISHNEVSKY]

Best comparison on KZbin I've ever seen! Great!🔥🔥🤘🤘

[@replicant8532]

For the past couple of days I've been falling in love with JVM.

[@TheClicheGaming]

this video is worth millions of views, great playing and tones.

[@Bridging_the_Political_Divide]

I've had a JVM, incredible amp. It can approximate any Marshall ever made to probably 95% accuracy. Super versatile with essentially 12 channels.

[@randoltaveras5612]

That Dual Rec had surprisingly nice and useable cleans!

[@adambomstad1105]

Very well put together video! This confirms my recent decision to by an Orange amp. It sounds amazing.

[@borhksalduero9259]

Very good comparison mate!!

[@allrightasa]

Thank you! Very detailed comparison. I used the whole range of sounds from clean to very heavy. It's good that you still have many amplifiers that can be compared a similar way)))

[@collinsb2308]

What a great comparison... I never paid much attention to Orange until now!

[@pleximeister]

Not sure what I was expecting - great job comparing flagship amps! I feel like if you ran two amps the Mesa Marshall would fit nice in the mix - one with hair - one with the brittle high end that always cuts through - depending on style - if heavy was focus I would run 6505 and Dual Rec in tandem. Ran 5150's and loved that they were bullet proof and the Mesa always seemed like a pissed off perfect JCM 800 with more gain? Fantastic Job...p.s. the Orange amps always sound chewy and are resistant to ear fatigue - like you can just plug in and play a whole show with no fuss and your volume knob. : )

[@LightCyrus]

I'm running an amp blend very similar to the first combo you described. (EVH3 and Triplecrown). It sounds KILLER. There is a little extra sizzle but not as much as a recto. Let me tell you where it comes to texture, beef, and high mid punch, this combo bites heads off.

[@maxstatic]

I’m normally all about the gain and the grind but hot damn that clean intro is beautiful. Cheers!

[@timwheeler4883]

I really enjoy your riffs in all your videos!

[@MrMariodraiby1]

Can u do a head to head rockerverb vs 6505 ? 😀

[@Squeeb24]

Thanks for all the work putting this together

[@atomega369]

Nice demo. I love my Orange 50 MKIII, I have changed all the China tubes to rare vintage 1949 -50 -60 tubes 🤘

[@shobihmubarock]

The chug of rectifier is incredible

[@hevechvy]

The Marshall and mesa both needed more volume. I sold my mesa triple rect after getting a 410. The 410 is the King of gigging amps, but the absolute best sounding rock amp I've ever heard is my Marshall Vintage Modern. With both buttons in, It's a one trick pony, but, OMG, It's perfect.

[@LeeGee]

Great way to compare amps. Rockerverb and the Rectifier sound great clean: the Marshall brittle, the Peavy cheap and flat. Trying to choose, so much appreciate the video.

[@vicnest]

These new comparison songs are genius!! Sound nice and good for comparison. Funny I thought I will love Dual Recitifier more, but the JVM410H sounds great in your examples.

[@georgecorg783]

One cannot just beat the Orange or Marshall at clean tones... they are just magical.

[@lozovoymax1941]

orange extremely good in range clean-heavy rock. Every gain setting from zero to the middle sounds amazing. Orange cabs also sound amazing. Both real and ownhammer IR's. Those are one of my favorite ownhammer IR's. Rockerverb MK3 can be good for metal too, but for me, more gain you dial, more sloppy it become. 2 o'clock I think most reasonable hi-gain setting. Higher setting for gain keeps changing tone shape in some pleasant way, but that's not for fast and clear notes. I like distortion sound on 3 o'clock, but for me, that works only for some slow/long notes.

[@happybobummy]

Great video! Love how easy to you made the differences to spot. I have a modded rockerverb mk2 that I love, but all three of the others sounded killer. I liked the Marshall a lot for the bluesy rock bit, but the Dual Rec and the Peavey killed the high gain clips. Makes me want an American voiced amp lol.

[@mikoajwalendziak4831]

Astonishing how much better the Rockeverb sounds. Orange all the way, especially with double humbuckers. Damn, gonna have some fun with my Dual Dark 100 t'night!