Sonos Connect (Sonos Port Equivalent) your Vinyl Turntable

[@celestewilkins2886]

We had a 1st gen Echo in our master bathroom for listening to music in the morning kzbin.infoUgkxABghAEkaIDGZfHRBH3D3rBrlraNmnC71 and while in the shower. I didn't realize how tinny and awful the sound output on the original Echo was until we replaced it with the Studio. It was a sonic upgrade far beyond what I was expecting. Just wow. I love it because it's like having speakers IN the shower. My friend likes it because the music is so loud that she can no longer hear me singing. So that's a win-win.

[@unclejediisampsonii3624]

Gee its good to see that half smart people do exist .. Thankyou Sir

[@spegal08]

Thanks mate! Confirms what I was hoping the Sonos connect was capable of doing.

[@LurgsHowToGuides]

Still got all my Vinyl, they sound absolutely incredible, just a lovely warm organic sound, can't beat it. I do like Sonos stuff.

[@jpdenat1]

Thanks : super clear and simple video ! I have a P2 record player and I want to play my vinyls to my Sonos play 1 around the house … so I imagine need a Sonos connect amp… not just the connect. Thanks

[@darthsnarf]

Thanks for showing the delay I was trying to find out how much it was, I knew there had to be some.

[@billd9667]

Very informative, thanks. One more scenario that no one on KZbin has covered yet is if the Connect will work with powered speakers and if they will have perfect sync with the other Sonos systems. The reason I ask is because I want to use my (better) existing subwoofer rather than coughing up an additional [gulp] US $700 for a mediocre Sonos product.

[@lucaszuleta1162]

Thank you, this is awesome and works like a charm!

[@VinylsFinal]

Excellent video. I truly enjoyed your demo. Both a magical and practical setup. I have a question. With SONOS Connect Amp, is it possible to use it as a Power Amp only. As in turntable, CD, Cassette Deck, Tuner etc. all plugged into a Preamp. Can the Preamp OUTPUT go into SONOS Connect Amp INPUT. Hence, turning up volume of any selected source on Preamp and listening through speakers coming out of SONOS Connect Amp :)

[@JeanLoyens]

Thank you for this video. I have a Sonos system and I just plan to buy the Sonos connect for having the possibility to connect an external audio source (CD-player or the sound of my computer while watching a movie) ONLY through my Sonos speaker system and NOT trough an existing audio set. Almost EVERY video I found about the use of Sonos Connect speaks about using it to play Sonos streaming music on your existing audio system, but I only want it to work the other way around, so to play it external source music on my Sonos speaker system. While you also explained the first option you did mention that your vinyl will play on the Sonos and that's what I hoped to see demonstrated. I know that if I want to connect a vinyl record player to the Sonos connect, I will need a vinyl pre-amplifier before connecting it to the Sonos Connect, or else I should buy the connect AMP, that's the Sonos Connect including an amplifier. So thank you for the nice video.

[@stephenjlr]

Hi Jean, Thanks for the comment. If you're planning on using the connect to stream the audio from a movie, you might want to investigate the lag issue (demonstrated at the very end of my video). It may cause problems syncing the audio with the video. If you are using a Connect AMP you would also need the phono pre-amp to bring the turntable signal up to line level. The Connect AMP would only allow you to be rid of your separate amp and drive passive speakers directly, but as your system is made up only of SONOS components, this wouldn't benefit you. Some vinyl turntables have a phono pre-amp built in. These would be able to connect directly to the Connect.

[@JeanLoyens]

Thanks again for the information, I appreciate it. Sonos support told me about the small lag, when wanting to use the amp for movies.

[@viral-spiral2889]

you can change the latency on the sonos app to 75ms it will be almost no delay.

[@TheWretchedWorld]

Fuck I forgot how much I love ar turntables. They design is so minimalistic and beautiful

[@stephenjlr]

+TheWretchedWorld I keep thinking I’d like one to match my Yamaha CA-1010. But I think I’d regret it. The AR is great. One day it will get restored.

[@TheWretchedWorld]

Its well worth restoring. I have a Pro-ject 2Xperience SB and Denon DP60L although after watching this video i'll definitely be on the hunt for an AR.

[@jeffkloss]

Thank you. Very helpful explanation.

[@juanpch]

Hi, do i need a preamp for do this? I have a turntable and the Sonos Connect, so now i need an amplifier... i just want to use my turntable with my sonos speakers

[@thomasamaya3907]

Hi Ted - thanks for putting this up. Question: is a pre amp required to be able to play music from your turntable to the sonos system? As of now, I only have a turntable, sonos connect amp, and sonos playbar. I'm not having luck getting music through, unfortunately. Thanks!

[@stephenjlr]

Yes, unless your turntable has a built in phonostage (pre amp) you will need one. The signal that comes from the turntable is very week. A phono pre amp will boost this up to line level. Your connect amp can then work with this signal.

[@TribecaNewMusic]

Great! Speaker stand will do the trick.

[@MrEricturney]

To be sure, we do NOT need the large receiver correct? I want to buy a turntable, plug it into the Sonos amp and have that connect (wirelessly) to all the other rooms.

[@stephenjlr]

Yep just make sure you have a turntable with built in phono amp or preamp.

[@davidlange8691]

Great video! I have pretty much done the same setup, however when I group the Connect(TT+Preamp out to amp) to the play1's I lose all sound from the connect. Play 1's are fine. Wonder if you have any thoughts?

[@mekaindy]

Great video straight up and honest. Thanks!

[@stephenjlr]

+mekaindy thanks!

[@andydav3563]

Excellent video. I have a question though that I’ve struggled to find anywhere on the net. I have a playbar, subwoofer and x2 Play 3s grouped in my lounge. I’m about to buy a pre-amp turntable and Connect but not sure if the sound would come through all my speaker in the lounge with the source being 2:1 stereo.

[@harrisedgar]

Thank you...!!! Finally someone did a nice and clear video about this....!!!

[@stephenjlr]

+Edgar Harris glad to hear it was useful. I’ve redone it with a vintage amp and cassette deck which is slightly different. Posting soon.

[@stephenjlr]

You're welcome! It works even better with a vintage amp that has Tape function. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6SmaJJ9mc9jnMU

[@stephenjlr]

+Edgar Harris thanks Edgar, I’ve updated this using a vintage amp which adds some cool features kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6SmaJJ9mc9jnMU

[@mervy210]

Nice video! If you’re playing your vinyl through sonos do you lose that analog quality? Or does the sonos connect transmit analog signal? I have a bunch of sonos speakers throughout my first floor. Are my sonos speakers high enough quality to even bother with vinyl?

[@stephenjlr]

mervy210 thank you. The sonos connect will process the analog with the onboard DAC and broadcast digital signal to the sonos network. With a vintage amp like the Yamaha CA-1010 you run the vinyl to the amp first so if you want, you can listen to the vinyl without digital involvement locally. I have another video on the channel showing this in more detail. Let me know if you need a link.

[@xeroeddie]

Awesome video. One question. Is the signal going through the Connect to your receiver still analog? Your setup is exactly like I would want mine to be, but I want to set it up so I don't loose quality when just playing the turnable with the analog system. Now I know that you said that "you don't have to choose between the modern streaming option and anolog sound", so I guess that confirms my question, but I just wanted to be sure. Thanks again!

[@stephenjlr]

+- Xerophthalmia - there is a digital output on the Connect so I guess you could use this. I haven't tested that option though.

[@09williamsa]

No, it goes through a digital processor first before being passed back out. That’s how everything is kept in sync.

[@nicholasshelton4822]

Hi Ted, great video and thanks for demonstrating the delay. One question: is there a lag between the different speakers? In other words, does your Play 5 lag behind the stereo setup because Sonos has to send the audio over to it? Say I had several Sonos speakers in a room, would they all play the turntable sound in sync (like regular music streaming) or would there be a lag from one to the others because of the heavier/richer nature of the audio? Thank you I appreciate the response. I would like to get a Play 5 to connect to my turntable (via line in) and have the sound play on my other Sonos speakers in sync.

[@stephenjlr]

Hi Nicholas, if you are going turntable>Sonos Connect>amp>speakers, then that sound will be in sync with any other speaker you have grouped with the Connect.

[@stephenjlr]

Just wanted to clarify I haven't actually done this via the line in on the Play5 but in theory it should be the same as what I'm demonstrating. If you are using the Play5 to receive the turntable signal you will need to ensure it has gone through a phono stage/pre-amp to bring it up to line level.

[@nicholasshelton4822]

@@stephenjlr Yeah my turntable has a built-in pre-amp! Ok thats awesome, yeah I figure it would probably be the same using a Play 5, I just wasnt sure of the wireless Sonos system would be able to handle the heavy, uncompressed analog audio coming in from a turntable and stream it evenly to all the players in sync. A delay between the turntable and the system I can live with, but a lag from speaker to speaker would be a nightmare... and my reasoning for using a play 5 instead of a Connect:Amp - if Im gonna buy something to integrate vinyl into my Sonos system, I might as well get another speaker out of it! :) Thanks again for the response!

[@stephenjlr]

@@nicholasshelton4822 The Sonos unit will process the input analog (via it's DAC) and broadcast it digitally . It won't be broadcasting the raw analog data. It was one of the drawbacks I talk about, in that if you wanted to listen to the turntable directly with the setup I have here, you can't bypass the DAC without re wiring the setup. Some vintage amps however give an option to do this. I demonstrate in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6SmaJJ9mc9jnMU

[@porchetta3853]

Hi thanks for the vid. So basically a question about it. i have a sonos beam on center and 2 play 1 on the sides. It is interesting to make a connection for my turntable and put only his sound on the sonos (not i other speakers). If you make like your case the sound goes on prephono-amp-connect and finish on the passive speakers. But in sonos speaker case? It is the same so prephono-connect-amp-connect to the sonos? Or just prephono-connect-speaker sonos? Thankyou

[@jessicaroberts5335]

I have the exact same turn table

[@inmatejason]

I was thinking of buying that turntable because it’s small size and I hear it’s a great table but I also heard it’s really finicky. How do you find it? Does it need a lot of attention?

[@stephenjlr]

Once I've got it set up the only thing I do before each record is clean the stylus with a soft brush, and run an antistatic brush over the record. I don't have a lot to compare it too, but I do enjoy the sound. I'd like to rebuild the plinth with some Australian hardwood to replace the particle board original.

[@marcelkrijger4534]

Thank you! But what if I want all my input devices (cd and phono) on Play5? Could I use line out on my amp (skip the phono pre amp) and then into the connect?

[@simonbaines9821]

The idea would be sound but doesn't work as the record player must go through an amp. Yes it does play and if you turn up the volume on the speakers you can hear the track albeit quietly. I know this because I just tried to replicate this. At first I thought it wasn't working but then after clearing the room of a noisy children I found I could just hear it. I first thought my old record players phono cables were damaged until I dug out a Bose speaker I could hear via my old amp. So retested and yes, music but was too quite really to get the full enjoyment. I could however play my streamed music through my old speakers but as these are going it isn't ideal. So with that setup it will work if you are wanting to use old speaker via the old amp. Not sure if the Sonos connect:amp would work but it doesn't have the Phono out so can't how that would work to and existing setup that would use the existing speakers. You can however connect up two speakers to that system. So over all great idea just a damn shame it doesn't quite work.

[@stephenjlr]

Hi Simon, the output from a turntable will always need to be amplified to line level using a Phono Stage/Phono Amp. What you've described sounds like you're sending the turntable signal directly to a line in input? Some integrated amps have a phono stage built in. Some turntables have a phono stage built in, otherwise you would need a separate phono stage as I've used in this video. Once you have amplified your turntable output to line level then you can do with that as you please. Either directly into a line in of a SONOS system (connect, connect:amp play:5 etc), or into a line in of an amp.

[@carlosalfaro7945]

Hi Ted! Can i use the sonos connect to play the audio from my TV or bluray player in my sonos speakers? Thanks!

[@jayy1223]

U can change the delay

[@kirabailey2193]

Thanks Ted. This has been really helpful. Do I need an amp if I just want to play only through my sonos network? So should it work to go turntable to phono preamp to sonos connect?

[@stephenjlr]

Yes, but you could achieve the same thing with a Sonos Play5

[@lizay3778]

​@@stephenjlr I have a turntable with built-in pre-amp (audio techinca lp60) and it is working to play my vinyl on sonos using this connection however it is quiet. Not in-audible. but when I turn it all the way up it is casual volume, then switch to another input and it is blasting. Any tips? Thank you so much for this video.

[@maz7206]

Ted - is there a way to run the turntable into the receiver and then run the receiver into the sonos connect? Similar question to "can I play the turntable into sonos without a preamp". I guess I'm asking, can the receiver function as the preamp?

[@stephenjlr]

YES! But it depends on the amp/receiver. I manage to do this with my Yamaha CA-1010 in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6SmaJJ9mc9jnMU The amp needs to have a Phono stage to bring the turntable signal up to line level. If this is built into the amp, then you need a way push this line level signal back to the Connect, rather than just play it locally. Vintage amps with TAPE outputs are perfect for this!

[@mikearbia5272]

When using the line in on the Sonos connect, your analog source is being digitized. Kind of defeated the reason for playing a record.

[@stephenjlr]

Agreed. Unless you have music on vinyl that you cannot access digitally otherwise. Search for my other video using a vintage Yamaha amp which allows an analog pass through for when you want to have a more pure vinyl experience locally and don’t need the multi room functionality. The amp used in this video did not allow it.

[@mulder90]

Can you go directly from vinyl to connect to airplay? Or you need an amp to?

[@stephenjlr]

You need to get the vinyl up to line level. So you need at least a phono pre amp. Then CONNECT. Then broadcast.

[@Matasky2010]

If I currently have this set-up: turntable/ phono pre-amp/ Stereo amplifier/ passive speakers, can I then connect the Sonos Connect to the amplifier and stream the vinyl to other Sonos speakers (multi-room)?? And if that works would the wired speakers sound be in sync with the streamed multi-room audio? I think I'm trying to play analog and stream digital simultaneously, probably not a good idea...My house might explode lol..

[@stephenjlr]

I think it is hard to play pure analog in the local system and stream that same signal to other sonos zones and keep it all in sync. It also depends on the Amp. It will need a record out or tape out function. Vintage amps usually have this feature. I demonstrate this in another video streaming a cassette deck using a 1970's yamaha amp

[@richardsinger01]

Adam the best way to stream analog (vinyl etc) is to connect the Sonos Connect analogue output to a spare line input on your hifi preamp and the tape out of the preamp to the Sonos Connect analogue input. I would not connect the phono preamp to the Sonos Connect directly because you then always have to go through the Sonos to listen to your records even in the same room as the turntable. You only have to do this if your preamp has no tape loop. There may be a lag between the live analog and streamed playback, but on my system I can’t tell because the two systems are in different parts of the house at the moment and I can’t hear both clearly at the same time.

[@stephenjlr]

@@richardsinger01 what he said

[@peternasser2555]

I'm new to Sonos, so I really appreciate this video. Curious though, why would you need a turntable preamp. Why can't you wire into the Sonos Connect and main preamp and then to the speakers?

[@darthsnarf]

Peter Nasser phono pre amps do more than amplify the sound, if you plugged directly in it would sound tinny and lacking bass. Most modern turntables have built in preamp, so you get a line out which can be amplified by any amp or the Sonos. If you have a turntable like audio techinca lp60 you don't need a phono preamp, just amp and speakers.

[@lcarmstrong11]

Is it possible to bypass the amp? Once the signal is in the sonos connect, can you make it go straight to your Sonos speaker?

[@stephenjlr]

Luke Armstrong if you want to listen to it in another zone, you don’t need to have the amp on. You do have to have the pre-amp active in the set up at any stage.

[@Howellzy28]

Would the delay be eliminated if it was playing through wireless Sonos speakers instead of wired bookshelf speakers?

[@stephenjlr]

Junyang Li who has also commented on this video has done something very similar, and been able to remove the lag by changing the settings on the PC Sonos application. I don't think this is dependent on wired speakers (as I have in the video) or if you are only grouping the speakers. The lag poses the biggest problem when using the system to listen to TV or movies

[@elliotnicklinmusic]

Fantastic demo thank you. Sorry if this has been asked but I don’t have any sonos speakers anymore I have a HomePod and really want a record player again with the ability to stream all around my house and to keep a minimalist setup by only using all in one speakers like my homepods. Without being lectured about losing analog signal because it’s only really the mastering quality of the vinyl I care about, would I be able to use only HomePods in conjunction with a sonos connect amp to make a sonos network of speakers, as I’ve heard the HomePod is now compatible with sonos’ inclusion of airplay 2. If this is possible would anyone know if the Siri functionality of the HomePod would then dictate to the sonos network, for instance, “hey Siri play line in”

[@stephenjlr]

Great question - I'm completely unfamiliar with the HomePod so hopefully another viewer can help out. But from what I've read, it seams that you can only add Airplay 2 enabled SONOS units to the HomePod network. And once you've done this, you are able to send music from your iphone/ipad/watch to multiple sources (ie one homepod and one sonos unit). Rather than adding HomePod units to the SONOS Network and add as a room within the Sonos app? Correct me if I'm wrong here people. So while the connect (and connect amp)does not support AirPlay2 it can be 'grouped' with an Airplay2 enabled Sonos unit to give it AirPlay2 functionality, otherwise the current generation Play5 has a line in and AirPlay2, but, Like I said I don't think the grouping of the two systems has your goals in mind.

[@elliotnicklinmusic]

Absolutely spot on, found out today that I would need the HomePod in the Sonos app to achieve what I wanted. Which as you've said is not possible. Thanks for taking the time to reply.@@stephenjlr

[@juanpch]

I have to buy an amplifier, i saw this online (KLH KL-2400 ) that help??

[@mjpslim]

which input did you connect in the back of the receiver ? because I'm stuck at this point i can't get any sound through my sonos speakers only my bookshelf speakers

[@stephenjlr]

Hi Malik, what does your current setup look like? Turntable > PreAmp> Connect> Receiver? If you're getting sound out of your bookshelf speakers (which I assume are connected to the receiver) then I would say you are using the correct input. Remember there should only be one set of cables going into the receiver. It sounds like you might have left the Connect out of the pathway? Post a video if you're not getting anywhere.

[@mjpslim]

My receiver input has phono , I need to look and see if I connected correctly into the connect .. I will look again thanks brother

[@stephenjlr]

HI Malik, Did you manage to get this sorted? If your receiver has Phono input, then hopefully it also has a line out that you can send back to the sonos, and then have the sonos output going into a separate line in on the receiver! Confusing much!? I explain it a bit more in my other video using a Vintage Yamaha amp that has an integrated phono stage.

[@godfollower920]

Thanks for the video, nice work explaining! Quick question. My receiver that I use is a vintage Yamaha (CR-1020) and has a phono input, so I don’t require a preamp. Now when adding in the Sonos, I understand needed a preamp before connecting my classic Yamaha turntable (yp-d6: no built in amplification) into the Sonos. Now on the line out of the Sonos, I now assume that I should NOT plug into the phono input on my classic receiver, as it would over amplify the sound(pre amp going into Sonos and amp phono amp of the receiver), and just use the aux input. Is that a correct? Also, I assume if this is the case, I will lose some of the beautiful qualities that comes from playing music through the phono amp of the cr-1020. I’m not a massive audiophile but I do like to warm authentic tones from my current system - just looking for a way to also add in a wireless option to pipe the music to the rest of my place. Thanks for the help!!

[@stephenjlr]

I've just done an update on this video using a Yamaha CA-1010 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6SmaJJ9mc9jnMU . So very similar situation to yours. The secret is the "REC OUT SELECTOR". You can listen to the turntable directly through the CR-1020 (Input selector: PHONO) and attached speakers, or if you want to have that room synced with other Sonos zones, you push the signal back through the CR-1020 (REC OUT SELECTOR: PHONO) to the line in of the CONNECT . The Connect should always be Line out to the aux input of the CR-1020. Once you're doing that, you select the connect on the CR-1020 (Input: AUX) and choose line in on the SONOS app for whichever zones you want to broadcast to (including the zone with the connect). Not being able to listen to the turntable "purely" was a gripe of my set up in this video, but the Yamaha gets around it nicely. Another option is to leave your CR-1020 on INPUT:Phono and REC OUT: Phono, then select line in on the sonos app for your other zones. This does cause a sync issue with the wireless zones and the yammy, but I'm told (Other comments on this video) that you can reduce this out of sync issue to ~ 75ms if you change the line in settings to uncompressed on the sonos PC application, although I don't see the point in this, as you would unlikely be doing any critical listening of your main system if you're also broadcasting to all your other zones. Happy listening, and congrats on a lovely bit of kit with the Yamaha!

[@junyangli8882]

So, I have an idea, I have a pair of Play 1s, can I use the connect as line in, and group the connect with the play 1s then use them as general speakers for KZbin, Netflix, movie and what not?

[@stephenjlr]

+Junyang Li I think the lag I demonstrate at the end of the movie will be your problem. I would sell the lot and buy the playbar. It is designed for this purpose

[@junyangli8882]

World According to Ted thanks for the reply, the play bar's dimension is just too large and I wanted to use them as general speakers instead of home theater as TV isn't really something essential to me.from doing some reading and research on the community, there are settings that helps with the lag.

[@junyangli8882]

World According to Ted plus with the play bar you are stuck with optical cable as the only way of input, so if you want to use other sources it means extra cost or you are stuck with the TV.

[@junyangli8882]

World According to Ted I'd be happy to share the link with you for the settings

[@junyangli8882]

World According to Ted en.community.sonos.com/what-to-get-228989/connecting-sonos-connect-amp-to-a-tv-4864719 granted this is for the connect amp but I'm going to assume it also works for connect. Well, if not I guess I'll just have to pony up and get the connect amp.

[@benjaminwaymark6605]

Is there a distinct lag between the turntable and amp with Sonos Connect in between?

[@stephenjlr]

Yes there is. I assume Sonos do this to ensure perfect sync if you are planning to broadcast your turntable to multiple Sonos zones. I demonstrate the lag at the end of the video. A nice feature would be if the line in on the connect could "pass through" straight to the amp for when you only want to listen to that system (and not multi room). As it stands you need to do this manually with your interconnect cables.

[@benjaminwaymark6605]

World According to Ted I assumed this was the case but wasn't entirely sure - thanks for your response!

[@mrdrgonzo]

Choosing uncompressed in settings reduces it to 75ms

[@evidence62er]

What's the name of the pre amp your using?,.....my pro-ject turntable does not have a amp so the sounds is beyond low

[@stephenjlr]

LIZARD CHEEKS NAD PP 2e

[@stephenjlr]

+LIZARD CHEEKS it's a Nad PP 2e

[@StuartHarrisSpeaker]

Any suggestions for what cable to use to connect my pre amp to my Sonos 5?

[@stephenjlr]

I haven't tried this set up, but I think the line in on the play 5 is a 3.5mm plug. So you might need RCA-3.5mm

[@dustybottoms23]

What does the phon pre amp do?

[@stephenjlr]

Amplifies the signal from the turntable to "line level"

[@TribecaNewMusic]

Don't put the speakers on the same surface as your turntable. The turntable picks up speaker vibrations! Bad.

[@stephenjlr]

+Tribeca New Music. Thanks for the tip! This set up was for the purpose of the video only. I’m in the process of making stands for these speakers using old hardwood railway sleepers. Should sufficiently isolate the vibrations!

[@ME-zm2oz]

World According to Ted the bear in the woods down a hole with a owl.

[@jari2018]

I used b big plate of heavy marble to put my turntable on since wood vibreates - I think there are or was like rubber mats you could use but that like 30 years back so I dont know the current setups really . ( MC ( moving coil from ortofon Is what I used but your t sounds like MM)

[@stephenjlr]

think these will do? :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6mWc2CvqdmLqrc

[@stephenjlr]

@@jari2018 I was looking at marble but I need to be able to work with the materials I choose, so that limits choice.. Here is what I've ended up with. On spikes. I think we're good: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6mWc2CvqdmLqrc

[@majesticspaceduck876]

Is this Bearing?

[@stephenjlr]

Do you mean, is the platter spinning on a bearing? the platter shaft sits in a tube with an oil bath in the bottom.

[@invanorm]

LOL its a small world on the internet, but not that small.

[@remnanteighty]

I want your AR turntable

[@stephenjlr]

It’s a very original example. Only minor restoration work (new power leads and rca). I have another that was purchased in not working condition and required lots of work. Unfortunately it’s got a dreaded ground buzz I can’t resolve!

[@jayjoob]

what is the phono pre amp for?

[@stephenjlr]

bringing the phono signal upto line level en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_level

[@jayjoob]

@@stephenjlr thanks for replying! cheers man