Sony A90J A80J OLED Complete Settings Guide | Movies, TV, Cable, Sports | Part 1

00:00 Intro
01:15 Disable Dolby Vision
03:30 Pixel shift and refresh
04:20 Sound settings and eARC
05:10 SDR Custom mode, movies and TV
09:35 Reality Creation
10:50 Motion
15:45 HDR Custom mode, movies and TV
17:45 HDR Standard mode, cable and sports
18:25 Really bright room
21:55 SDR Standard mode, cable and sports
23:02 Live color
23:28 Bright room vs dark room
25:10 Why Dolby Vision isn't recommended
29:15 Built in apps
29:54 Dolby Vision setup if you want it
32:55 Dolby Vision warm settings
35:03 DV Dark vs DV Bright vs HDR10
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[@ryanbaker7404]

Bookmarking this for the day I spring for either set. Keep going, bro, we see you grinding, day in and day out. Thanks for all you do in the AV community.

[@Bradli]

Ahh the great white whale of TVs this year! I hope Brandon, FOMO, and Digital Trends see this video. Nice job. No one goes as in depth as you do bud. You're helping allot of people here

[@MyGadgetsWorld]

Just got my Sony A90J 83". I am gonna follow your videos for sure. Thank you

[@Bradli]

Whoa dude! You bought the Moby Dick of TVs! Congrats

[@sjsphotog]

jealous! :P emjoy

[@crazycomments8038]

Excellent TV!

[@TechWithKG]

Great explanation for the settings! Good video overall.

[@ArisenDD]

Thanks man ! Looking forward to part 2 !!

[@bigbro8439]

You helped me so much. Thanks. Sports though often do not look great.

[@curtisbeckett4764]

Very professional. Will use these setting when i get my Sony 65 a80j. Thanks

[@MrGreed2000]

Been waiting on this video! Lets go!!!

[@Samzep]

I have the shield pro too love it i will switch dv off and see if i like it better

[@senseisprotege3632]

Hope you’re feeling better dude 🤧. So excited for these videos 💥 Another way around Dolby Vision is streaming via their Xbox or Playstation without much quality loss. The Xbox’s basic tv calibration menu is fantastic for setting contrast. If you’re ever in Kansas City, I’d pay ya for calibration 🌆 So happy to see your 40-45 brightness 🔅 recommendation - 40 has been the sweet spot for me. (Love The Grand Tour) Reality Creation - Auto is usually slightly softer than I prefer. It seems to play off of what you have manual set at before switching over. 33-37 is great for SDR. 40-49 for HDR & HD in my experience. Thanks for all you do Classy 🙏🏽

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Yeah auto will vary between content. So some content it won't even add anything on while others it will add more. Its why some content you may notice isn't doing much with auto lol. So manual is best if you like that look reality creation gives the image with the sharpness and detail especially if set higher like some are doing.

[@matthewwilliamson9501]

Thanks a million. Turning off Dolby Vision was the BEST tip ever. Thanks again, great work 👍

[@seif.z]

Thanks for the very extensive work

[@lowtohigh6009]

DV is great when using physical media

[@444chroma]

True. Sounds like the problem is coming from streaming services and related streaming devices. It doesn't surprise me they'd screw up DV implementation Comparing a disc in both HDR10 and DV with a UB820 it's pretty clear DV is superior.

[@tirecraft50]

Sony A80J panels have a vertical ripple approximately every 8” on the 55” & 65”. I cannot understand why no one is mentioning this. I went to buy this A80J Sony today and the salesman took pictures and sent them to the Sony Rep which said he couldn’t see the ripple. I went to two other retailers and the sales people were shocked to see the same problem with the panel. We compared A80J to the LG G1 and Sony A90J and both of these panels were perfectly flat with no rippling. We were all in complete disbelief. The last retailer discounted the A90J 65” an additional 800 on top of the already discounted 700 price for customer satisfaction policy. The A80J has an amazing picture but would be embarrassed if anyone would point out my TV was warped. I’m coming from a Pioneer 50” Plasma purchased 15 years ago. Absolutely loved this TV but just developed a thin black line across middle of panel. The Pioneer was expensive but only cost .50 cents per day. Fingers crossed Sony’s quality is as good.

[@grinOn2wheels]

I have the 77a80j and I don't have any ripples.

[@charlinelebourg4270]

same with my 65 a80J... Vertical ripple

[@sjsphotog]

Hey you and I were the same. I also am coming from a Panasonic Plasma 50" that is still working perfectly 13-`15 yrs later. BEST Blacks ever. But it was time for 4k so....and great Costco clearout deals on the A80J before the new 2022 models came in so had to finally pull the trigger (with the wifes approval) :)

[@afistfulofpimples1745]

You should have bought the 77 then. Some people just keep making mistakes through life. Not my problem.

[@tirecraft50]

Hey Pimples lol. Don’t you pay attention to what you read? Purchased a 65 “ A90J at a great price and love it. The comments were to make buyers aware of poor panels of the A80J.

[@MathMan271]

Just in time for 'The Expanse' !!!

[@numbone]

Thats what I'm watching right now

[@rgsauve]

Just got an a80j 77 but this seems to apply to external input driven content. Are there suggested settings for just the built-in apps? I'm mainly watching the built-in Netflix/Amazon Prime/Disney+/Crave/HBO Max/Apple TV apps. Dolby Vision Bright/Dark picture modes don't even seem available for me for some reason. On another note, I'm surprised that in 2021 streaming services and television manufacturers still haven't figured out how to properly use the metadata to establish a proper handshake to pull the best picture profile and settings and get the best (and by best, I mean most accurate) PQ out of a TV.

[@sjsphotog]

Yeah I had the same issue. Didnt see DV Dark or Bright modes when trying to calibrate using Netflix Sweettooth like he did. I think yoiu have to have the extra paid UHD version of Netflix for that to work. It needs to "see" the DV source coming in for those pix modes to "light up"/become available but I dont have any source for DV content right now so... Also need to ensure you have the source HDMI set to Enhanced Dolby Vison instead of just Enhanced like he showed in the beginning

[@MissSitaKat]

I don't see why anyone would use anything other than the built-in streaming apps for NF, Prime, and UT!.

[@numbone]

I just use warm -2 and -13 for everything as there isn't much difference between that and expert 1 with no color adjustments

[@sjsphotog]

Thanks Classy. Just went thru and setup my A80J on HDMI3 (with my NVIDIA Shield) with all your settings. Now need to do my other input (PS4). Dont have a UHD player yet to be able to play my UHD movies. Still deciding between the Sony 800M2 or the Panasonic 820. Yeah it does suck we got the Sony for the DV capabilities and "cant"/shouldnt use them for the best experience :( oh well. Pix looks great.

[@ReferenceFidelityComponents]

I disagree about disabling dolby vision. Dolby black is hands down one of the best pictures I’ve ever seen on a tv for movies. At least if like a vast majority of people you only use the built in apps and don’t need the other hdmi ports. Personally if turning Dolby vision off, Expert 1 out of the box is almost spot on if using cinema or custom settings.

[@Me-mw6un]

Damn this is confusing. Got my first oled Tv and learning all these new terms on videos. Going from setting up Dolby vision settings now to not using it at all? And also settings based on content. 🤯

[@ThomasPark77]

Great videos!

[@eldontyrell6598]

Thanks for the vid. I applied these settings to my A80K and they work pretty well. One question: do you still recommend turning Dolby Vision off on the 2022 Sony K series models? On my Sheild I have only watch a bit of Apple TV+ and Prime content in DV so far (eg. Rings of Power) but with a quick bit of tweaking the DV Dark and DV Bright presets seem to work well on this TV in low light rooms.

[@Shogun_1973]

hi, good day. your previous video recommends to set warm and do some color calibration for all modes SDR, HDR and dolby. So are we going to change it to expert and clear the color calibrations? thank you

[@DjBlaaack]

That’s what I don’t get. Every video he changes every setting, so what do we go with

[@numbone]

@@DjBlaaack Changing to warm and adjusting the -3 and -15 was geared more towards Dolby vision content. Use these settings if you disable Dolby Vision and use HDR instead

[@marianaparedes5645]

I think that your message is for someone else, I have no idea of what are you saying; do you mind to call my number4077181844? This must be clear as of today, sorry if there is some inconvenience for both sides. Best regards.

[@ale88xra]

He literally explains on this video why he is giving this new setting and that you can try whichever you prefer to use try the one that looks better for you, Expert is to be avoided with Dolby Vision Dark this is why he offered the Warm settings but HDR10 will be more accurate still with no changes on Expert 1 nor any colors adjustment

[@Hobart12]

What happened to Sony good right out of the box?! Helpful video though

[@bazman357]

I just bought the A90J 65 inch.

[@bobdylan2843]

The only thing i change is colour warm, live colour low, reality creation 20, noise reductions and smooth gradations low, 2 smoothness and high cinemotion. Btw thankyou for that dolby vision off tip!

[@afistfulofpimples1745]

The only thing I change is the volume.

[@GrinchyBoby]

My only SDR content are Animes. So i make the color Pop. Demon Slayer and co are amazing in that settings 😅

[@summerforever6736]

Great Video!!

[@Shogun_1973]

another question, there is "netflix calibrated" mode. what is the accuracy of that mode? would you recommend it for netflix?

[@a2.Milk85]

Hey thanks classy! I will give custom mode a go instead of using DB bright. Cheers

[@a2.Milk85]

So basically don’t use DV and just stick with custom mode when viewing UHD’s?

[@MissSitaKat]

I don't see any reason to use Custom rather than Cinema. I suspect that Cinema does a better job at tone-mapping PQ on the Sony. This maybe is why I don't see NFcalibrated to be too dark.

[@r.stanley1049]

Thanks!

[@ahmedalsubaie544]

dv bright option on my a80j is dark even I’m not satisfied when i turn my room light off but pic on the dv is clearer than the hdr10 but you will sacrifice the brightness that you have in the hdr10

[@SenthilRameshJV]

Waiting for part 2. For gaming calibration

[@williamsc025]

Would these setting be the same for the A80K?

[@dantetaguiwalo121]

Just got an a80j 55". Should I follow this one or the other video that uses warm color temp for all modes? Not using any external devices, all just built in apps. Thanks!

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

This video shows that warm setting as well, just goes a bit more in-depth. If you only use the built-in apps then you cannot disable Dolby Vision, so yes use the warm settings.

[@weenan]

So are you saying that if we use the built in apps for watching content we can´t disable dolby vision and should therefore use the warm color temp settings from your previous video?

[@sjsphotog]

yes exactly since internal apps on the Sony dont let you disable DV so follow the"warm; settings he talked about near the end of the video instead of the "Custom" settings for those who use an external device (NVIDIA Shield, PS5, XBox X, etc) to play / stream content and CAN turn off DV.

[@Fr0stkeule]

How do I disable Dolby Vision on streaming services I use the apps through the TV, not through an external device

[@mikep8683]

You can't, unfortunately. Mentioned at 1:19 in the video.

[@xiiivaniix]

Classy! I Do 95% Apple TV. (NFLX,DIS,HBOetc.) 5% basic gaming. no sports, Blu-ray or Cable. I’m undecided between the 83” A90j or G2. (It’s a dim room and im not sensitive to motion ) Please help! What do you recommend?

[@mikeh1811]

It would be nice if we could save the settings for DV and HDR separately, being able to easily switch between them, depending on the content we watch.

[@HausOfPain]

Netflix is Dolby Vision HDR only right? I’m using the internal app. So I need settings for DV HDR, UHD, and HD? There isn’t an option to turn DV off correct?

[@TaylorCFP]

Just gotta comment that I highly agree with the commentary on motion settings. I’m super sensitive to SOE, and to me CineMotion low with motion smoothing on 1 works awesome. (Match frame rate on the Apple TV set to off - for some reason I start to see SOE with it on. Maybe it’s CineMotion messing things up)

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

If you have match frame rate turned on, then turn cinemotion to off and see how that looks.

[@Zapablast05]

Hey I know this is a bit dated but I’ve had my A90J since October 2021 and have been finicking with settings lately. One interesting setting to note is the Netflix Calibrated Mode in the TV’s display settings. It appears to disable all the TV’s post processing and dynamically adjusts to the Netflix content, sort of like a pure direct mode from Yamaha AVRs but I’m not absolutely sure with the little info I have found.

[@MissSitaKat]

THAT'S WHAT IT DOES. Which is why I recommend despite the possibility that some of Netflix DV may have originated as HDR10/HDR10+.

[@Zapablast05]

@@MissSitaKat I never use Netflix Calibrated anymore because it's just too dark at all times. I rather leave it on DV Bright or IMAX Enhanced.

[@MissSitaKat]

I've always hated the way too dark NF DV look so I understand your concern. Going with Netflix Calibrated eliminated the need to make other picture settings. Yeh! And, yes I can see the image is slightly darker but the Sony so bright I haven't found it to be a problem in a normally lit room.

[@CoolBeans2124]

Hi, big fan. How would you set up an Apple TV with this tv? Thanks

[@PK_GlobalTravels]

Hi. Thanks for this video. I’m not using built in apps. I’m using an Apple TV 4K as external device. I have Dolby Vision enabled on it. But both my HDMI 3 & 4 is set to Enhanced Format. Should I disable Dolby Vision on the Apple TV? Or change the HDMI format to Dolby Vision so both will match.

[@deadline7610]

Nicely Done. Is this A90J still a rec. today as the price has drop a bit ? Thanks

[@tempo9782]

Doesn’t seem right for me to disable DV coming from years of all Samsung TVs. For now I will stick to the settings with Warm Color temp and see. So maybe there was something to Samsung’s claims about HDR(+) being ample enough. Reference level 4K bluray DV content looks great with the warm settings

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Proper DV content on UHDs are great. That's what the warm setting recommendation is for mostly.

[@tempo9782]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Thanks Classy and really appreciate all work you put in!

[@sjsphotog]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations so you would recommend using DV set to ON (Enhanced DV) for the UHD player input going into the TV and then using warm on that input settings?

[@KratosZer0]

So, once you switched to Hdr and Sdr settings for cable and sports there was a bit of a focus on a really bright room. I for one do not have a really bright room so if I am trying to watch live sports would you still recommend changing to standard mode? But just dont alter the settings for more brightness (e.g. adding black adjust and adv. Contrast enhancer? Or in that case would the original custom settings just work better since I am not in a bright room? Thank you for the vid though!

[@kennethgross8079]

Sorry if I am being repetitive but is it better to leave Expert 1 as is or go with red gain -3 and blue gain at -6 as you previously recommended? I am sure that others have this same question.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Leave it as is. Sony either released an update or during production changed the factory white point at some point after release.

[@jamessurname2285]

What is the TLDW if I just want to watch the TV out of the box with Sat Tv and Apps like Paramount + and KZbin? What is critical to change? Thanks

[@carbsncaffeine9254]

DANG! turning off dolby vision made a lot of difference. better colors on mlb tv on the apple tv. Thank you!

[@brandonward1207]

I just got this tv on prime day. If I disable Dolby Vision (which seems to be the new, adopted standard in HDR), am I losing the HDR in the tv? Disney plus, Netflix, Apple TV are all using Dolby vision

[@helex050]

So you dont recommend DV if we use streaming apps due to conversion but if we have for example bluray player connected to HDMI 1 then we can use DV(dark) for DV content?

[@JPJones03223]

Is the difference between Expert 1 color temp and Warm color temp with R-Gain (-3) and B-Gain (-15) negligible enough to where I could just leave one set up for both HDR and Dolby Vision?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

It would be -3 green not red with warm. But don't bother with any of that. Use expert 1 without any gain changes, and either disable Dolby Vision or just use Dolby Vision Bright with gradation preferred turned on.

[@JPJones03223]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Seems like a good compromise. What really sucks is that my 4K player, the Sony x700, doesn’t automatically detect Dolby Vision content. So I would have to switch to DV manually every time I put in a DV disc.

[@Squishmallows24]

So the Dolby vision problem, is that a tv problem or just a general Dolby vision problem? Will a tv like C1 have the same problem?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

It's a poor implementation problem from streaming services, that affects all brands.

[@jericoba]

HDMI 1 and 2 on the enhanced format will give you DV you say, but the info does not say that. So how do you know?

[@forevergreen3330]

Can this be used as the a80k settings? Could you do a settings for the a80k?

[@SunnySkiesInAZ]

Do you still recommend doing this for a90j if not having professional calibration done?

[@shadowraziel69]

Hello there and thanks for the settings, for Adv contrast enhance and black adjust, these two settings have to be set together like both on low, both on medium etc or separately, one on low and other on medium ?

[@HeavyMetalSonicRM]

It's really disappointing that DV sucks because it's why I bought the A90J and x-800m2, but at least HDR10 looks much better than on the A9G thanks to gradation preferred.

[@sjsphotog]

How do you like your 800M2? Were you considering the Panasonic 820? Im still deciding what to get for my UHD player as I dont have one right now to "feed" my new baby , my A80J :P

[@HeavyMetalSonicRM]

@@sjsphotog I'm very happy with the Sony. I tried the Panasonic, but returned it because I didn't care for the menus and remote. To me, the Sony is more aesthetically pleasing and easier to navigate, but it all comes down to personal preference.

[@MissSitaKat]

DV does not suck! Use the built-in Netflix app and set to DV calibrated. Some titles will look different from other titles. That's normal.

[@puffypuffy2107]

Great video as always Classy, but I have one question if you don't mind. On my Sony ubp-x700m black level has to be set to 49 for DV content since 50 elevates blacks while 50 is fine for SDR and HDR10; if using the 77A80j's internal apps, 50 is then the correct black level setting for DV content. Is this normal?

[@jkon1970]

Why is pixel shift recommended to be on and why is dolby vision wanted to be disabled?

[@bilodeaujean-sebastein9963]

Base on your past video. I had first ajust on the service menu Red, Blue et Green. After I use SDR on Custom 1 with expert one and your suggest 20p ajustment. I use HDR on Custom 2 with same expert 1 and same 20p ajustment. Finally I use Dolby Dark with warm color and your other 20p ajustment. The image is stunning and not to dim. That is ok ?

[@bilodeaujean-sebastein9963]

All my content is app streaming

[@soumyajit92]

Hi, looking to buy a 55 inch oled. Between lg g1 and sony a80j which one is better overall? Mostly for hdr/dv movie and tv contents.

[@Fr0stkeule]

So i ask you again, how bright is the A90j If i boost the Service Menu

[@anthonymarotta7968]

Is there a good video setting the Sony ht7000 with the 77 X-ray aj80?

[@kennethgross8079]

If I am watching a 4K UHD blu-ray encoded in DV, am I going to have the same issues with inconsistent content as with streaming apps? Also, you had previously recommended setting red gain at -3 and blue gain at -6 with Expert 1. Are you saying that it is more accurate out of the box to leave the advanced color basic settings at their defaults?

[@444chroma]

You should be fine with a UHD bluray. The DV implementation is not only proper, but often technically superior to streams. E.g. Profile 7 or "full enhancement layer" is exclusive to UHD format.

[@jbmop]

I noticed you have a break-in video for the C- but not the A80J. Does the C1 video apply?

[@sauriol69]

hey Guys! im using the built-in apps on A80j but when im press display on the remote it only shows the clock!? but when im on the shield it shows all the info, like resolution and hdr etc... how can i access the same info on built-in apps ?

[@amithram22]

I have the same issue - Did you figure out how to see the current resolution?

[@sjsphotog]

same. I think thats the way it is. The Display when using internal apps only shows clock in upper right and Size of file in Mpbs in upper left with the timestamp of the show/movie playing. Sucks you cant "see" what the source is on internal apps. Maybe try KZbin on internal app and do the "stats for nerds" thing?

[@sauriol69]

@@amithram22 Nope, I never figured it out... Just stupid and suck lol

[@Category5]

What about the adjustments to the RGB in the service menu that I did when I first got the set. Is that supposed to be reset for all these now?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Yes they should be default. Adjusting them can cause clipping.

[@Famousjack]

Have an A80K 77" that has been having issues with the sound, Linked to the Sony HTA 5000. Out of NOWHERE my remote volume control does not work and have to use the sony soundbar remote. when using volume it is supposed to show up on TV, seeing Auto System, on the left bottom side of the screen. When not linked up with sound ar one has to use the tv remote to turn off the TV and the Sony soundbar remote to turn off the soundbar. This is my 3rd month in having these issues, so far once a month Best Buy Geek Squad out to link it back up. This month March 10th, 2023 Geek came out and linked up the remote using Blue tooth, so still, the TV remote does not work with volume when I shut off the TV only the TV and sony go off, and not the Comcast box. Is anyone else having soundbar issues with this Sony A80K and HT-A5000 soundbar?

[@danielaminot5364]

Hi from France ! Are these settings availables for AG9 please ? The tweak about Dolby Vision ( Warm + White Balance ) seems very good to my eyes...Thanks a lot.

[@ericlarsen6209]

Do you have the settings for the a80k

[@ankitwadhwa89]

I am new to all this can someone tell me why to turn off the Dolby vision as the first settings to go for?

[@gardinflame235]

Waited 2 weeks for my 75" X95J to arrive and when it did the truck driver opened up the back of the panel truck and what I saw was my tv laying face down teetering over a long 16" carton. You could see right away the tv box had a twist like a piece of licorice. I asked why wasn't it secured instead of sliding and banging around and he said he just delivers. After that remark I didn't see any use to saying anything else. So back it went.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

That definitely sucks. So many delivery problems with TVs lately. For bigger TVs I now just rent a U-Haul and go pick up from the store myself.

[@sjsphotog]

yikes. ouch. i hope you didnt accept it

[@Loutripe]

Hello, sorry if I misunderstood something but I cannot find the custom mode for the image settings is that normal?

[@khobia2]

Is this issue with dolby vision applicable to the Sony oleds or is it a general issue affecting other TVs that have Dolby Vision?

[@numbone]

All Dolby vision content

[@dontpokethebear3893]

Thank you so much for this! I do not have a calibrated set but I followed your Dolby Vision settings advice and I love it. However, I noticed that the "basic" white point adjustment settings carry through to HDR10 content as well. Am I doing something wrong? Both HDR10 and Dolby Vision UHDs play in the same Panasonic player. I would disable Dolby Vision like you suggest but I found in most of the movies I tried that the Dolby Vision presentation on disc was far superior, especially with your settings suggestions.

[@dontpokethebear3893]

I just kept watching more and you explained this lmao. Gonna use Warm for HDR10 now too. Thanks again for the great content!!

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

For discs Dolby Vision should be good most of the time. It's in streaming apps that a lot of the content isn't right. With SDR/HDR10 you don't need to use warm either, you can use expert with no change to the basic white balance settings.

[@dontpokethebear3893]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Thanks again! I will keep using Expert 1 for inputs other than my Blu-Ray player. I use internal apps not that often so I will just deal with inaccuracies when I happen to watch something on Dolby Vision there.

[@Squishmallows24]

On all other tvs when hdr is on contrast is set to max but on the a80j is set to 90, why?

[@SenthilRameshJV]

Anywhere I can read about why DV is not better than HDR and what you mean by converted DV besides Native DV? From videos of HDTVTest I was under impression DV is better due to the Dynamic Metadata and buying the TV based on whether it can do DV / Atmos etc., But just to turn it off later feels like wasting money on something that we wont be using

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Native Dolby Vision content would have been created with dynamic metadata. The problem is streaming apps took all their HDR10 static metadata content and "flipped a switch" to convert it to DV. Some of the content is native DV and will look like it should. Other content will be inconsistent.

[@joeytv4584]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Is there a way for us to know if it is Native DV or Converted HDR to DV? Thx

[@SenthilRameshJV]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations thank you. Is there a way we can know which are native DV and which are “flipped” ones?

[@sjsphotog]

@@joeytv4584 native would be on a UHD Disc that was master correctly. Converted means from streaming apps

[@MissSitaKat]

you can't so why worry? Use the built in app!

[@TheExtraTerrestrial]

Thanks for this! Would these settings apply to the A80K as well?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

I have a video specifically for the A80K

[@TheExtraTerrestrial]

Even better, will check that out, thanks! @@ClassyTechCalibrations

[@Lecartt]

Are we sure about disabling Pixel Shift? It does make sense to turn it off if you don’t display static images, but still. :)

[@sjsphotog]

I keep mine on to prevent burn-in. In case the wife pauses CNN (with the static icons) :) Better to be safe than sorry

[@zoroluffy4625]

Sucks that u aren't able to turn off Dolby Vision without an external device

[@datem1]

Should we still not use Dolby vision in 2023 or has the latest firmware made it better than hdr10?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

I would disable it on Sony's WRGB OLED models

[@camzane52]

Standard auto priortizes the EDID that is coming in from the device, meaning it will apply SDR, HDR, or Dolby Vision based on what the device is feeding the TV. Leaving it on Standard Format does not disable Dolby Vision.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

The HDMI port setting? Never said standard would disable Dolby Vision. You have to use port 3 or 4 and set it to enhanced, not enhanced Dolby Vision to disable Dolby Vision.

[@camzane52]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Maybe I completely misunderstood what you were saying, but I was pretty sure you said if the TV was set to standard then it would display HDR or Dolby vision at all. I’ll have to rewatch I guess.

[@camzane52]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Yeah, at 3:08 you literally say if you have the HDMI port set to standard that you won’t have HDR at all, which isn’t true. That’s all I’m saying.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@camzane52 sorry my reply was worded incorrectly, and I also wasn't quite sure which setting you were referring to. I meant to say that when I recommend turning off Dolby Vision it's using port 3 or 4 on enhanced. I have not used any HDR capable devices on port 1 or 2, but I do know enhanced on those ports will allow HDR10 or DV, whichever the content is. However I've seen it said that standard makes the ports run in HDMI 1.4 compatibility mode for older devices like old cable boxes or standard DVD players. Essentially like the "deep color" setting that Samsung has.

[@camzane52]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations True, it will do that to old cable boxes and such which is why new cable boxes need to have that port set to 4K mode if the cable box is 4K cable. I just mainly wanted to point out that standard will allow HDR and DV.

[@midmassguy]

Hey Classy Tech a bit off topic my son was playing with my sony a90j and he changed the RS232C control under remote and accessories do you know the default setting? sorry for the off topic question. thank you.🥂

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Sorry, I don't remember. I'm sure if you ask on AVS in the owners thread someone will know.

[@midmassguy]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations thank you.

[@Batman-eh9ww]

Hey Classy is your Dolby dark sharing your SDR day expert 20 point settings ? Mine is and the RGB balance is not tight but it works great with Dolby bright . I was wondering why

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

No, mine is set for expert 1 SDR/HDR/DV Bright and expert 2 for DV Dark

[@Batman-eh9ww]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations what if there’s not enough blue and too much green and red. I understand clicking back on the green and red but how do I get more blue? Would that be increasing B bias ?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@Batman-eh9ww if you are doing 20pt then increasing blue or reducing red and green at the points it's needed would bring them together.

[@SenthilRameshJV]

Hi Classy, do you see the problems with Dolby Vision will happen even if I buy a Dolby Vision Blu Ray player and use a DV Blu Ray DVD. Wanted to understand if its issue with DV implementation of Streaming services or if its due to Sony's processing of DV.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

It's the streaming app services, not the TV. Discs should be good, though it's possible some of them are done poorly.

[@wxman2003]

Just read your comments on AVS. Not good for us early adopters with calibrated tvs if Sony changed the WP via a FW update. That would mess up our calibrations.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Still need to see more samples and get more info to know what happened.

[@limpfalife]

Just purchased this TV today. Do your settings in this video still work after the FW update mentioned here? Thanks ! @@ClassyTechCalibrations

[@AA-iv1nx]

Hey Classy would you say that it's best to not push the brightness of a WOLED like the 77 A80J in the service menu beyond its usual 750 nit range as opposed to boosting the SM gains to get it to the 800s? Is the loss of color in highlights with the gained nits really noticeable?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

It increases clipping when you do. Colors will be better if you don't.

[@AA-iv1nx]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Ok thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

[@dewittfiala5021]

Hey classy. Is this dolby vision issue exclusive to Sony? Or would this recommendation to disable likely apply to the C1 as well?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

It's an implementation issue mostly from streaming apps. Not the TV's fault. Effects all DV capable TVs.

[@mattr8750]

Are the tvs still targeting a slightly cooler white point than D65 by default with Expert? You mention with DV, the tv shifts down to D65 in earlier videos, is this only when using DV Dark, and one of the Expert temp settings? so by switching to Warm, and making the RGB adjustments, you emulate the default Expert temp, but now the tv won't do the temperature shift down for DV because the temp setting isn't Expert? I notice in this video and in the comments, you mention using the Warm hack even for 'good' DV content, so are you saying Sony's temp step down is 'wrong'? Or are you just trying to keep the viewing experience more consistent between modes at the expense of some accuracy in well done DV content?

[@petedeffner7002]

Hey Classy. What are your thoughts on the service menu changes? Worth it? Do those settings affect ABL? Do you leave them at default now yourself?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

On the A90J the increase before clipping was very small, not worth it. On the A80J Im looking more in to it.

[@911jason]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations any update for the A80J?

[@Swifteagle]

Hey Classy what would be the best settings for a 55"? Thank you

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

This is for all sizes

[@Swifteagle]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations thank you for the quick response, appreciate it!

[@mrwalker6026]

What's the best picture preset for HDR movies...I see Imax Enhanced, Cinema and Custom modes as options... Is one better than the other?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Custom

[@mrwalker6026]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations thanks heaps mate👍

[@MissSitaKat]

I also don't see any reason to Custom rather than Cinema. I suspect that Cinema does a better job at tone-mapping PQ on the Sony. Why did you choose Custom?

[@cms5635]

what a pain in the ass with dolby vision and the native apps. my son keeps forgetting to turn off the appletv when he turns off the avr & tv and it's running up my data usage. i was going to disconnect the appletv and just use the native apps but screw that. i really didn't want to use/reprogram my harmony remote to turn the appletv off but not seeing an option now. sucks

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Is CEC not working with it to turn off with the AVR?

[@TheMerlin1984]

Why can’t you use Dolby vision for the inbuilt apps? I’m confused.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

The built in apps use Dolby Vision. You can't disable Dolby Vision on the built in apps.

[@MissSitaKat]

Not clear to me why built in apps would not be used except for a ROKU to stream services like MHz. Or a cable box.

[@TechCody113]

can someone tell me what color space samsungs native color space uses? i get DCI but then others say BT.2020, when i used both tvs side by side the X95j with DCI looked like samungs native but then light greens look more yellowish warm, but then BT.2020 has neon greens like samsung but other colors are way off, i’m assuming DCi is the wide color space, but i can’t stand sonys warm greens, light greens just look neon green and it’s annoying af because literally same game on both tvs and the sony looks off, all settings are default for color, i also noticed sony has pinkish faces while samung doesn’t, i do know the x95j didn’t have wide color gamut and only had 86% DCI coverage while qn90a had 97%, so i think what we’re seeing here is sony masters the rec.709 color space but then just assumes all content is gonna use auto color space, (which just forces 709 on everything) and because of the lack of coverage in DCI it’s showing up with off colors, i really don’t wanna go back to the qn90a has the banding is horrendous and blue whites is shit, also has shitty motion and loss of details on black areas, but gosh dang anything outside of BT.709 on sony tvs look like shit

[@TechCody113]

and i’m not using BT.709/auto color space, no matter what people say or wether it’s the standard or not, BT.709 is washed out af and looks dull, what does sony expect? for people to buy a professional $400 color meter just to get colors right in DCI, sony didn’t do well this year at all there cutting corners like ashsole samsung did

[@golferadam12]

For the life of me I cannot get my 65 A80J to look good. The picture to me looks flat and lifeless and the picture is also lacking sharpness. Would I be better off returning this and getting something different?

[@ronniecreason7870]

Is qn9d from sams the same is the qn90a

[@Puretea4711]

no

[@chriskaye1997]

Hi, how do I see which panel is used in my a80j (for example do I have the evo panel?) - also, how can I see panel hours (total “on” time for my panel)? Thanks to anyone that can help 🙏

[@eddydaenen7842]

Well, as far as I could find, the a80j does not have the evo panel, only the a90j does

[@numbone]

@@eddydaenen7842 The 77in A80J has the evo panel as does some of the newer sets produced after August I believe that are 65in. But its a lottery on which panel you get on the 65in A80Js and it also depends on your location. Seems mostly the US got the EVO panel on the newer 65in A80Js

[@sjsphotog]

@@numbone That's good news. hopefully my 65" A80J got it. It was mfg in Feb 2022 and bought it last week May 2022

[@durdaneta26]

I am very confused with the color temp. Some settings videos have us switching everything to warm and then this says expert 1 is perfect…

[@numbone]

The warm was for Dolby Vision content from UHD disk and these are if you disable Dolby vision and use HDR for streaming