Concord Was Financial Success, Just Not For Playstation

[@BellularNews]

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[@SolStone]

@@BellularNews Time for you to stop being so polite towards obvious DEI and agenda-pumped games. It's destroying the industry and you are obviously completely avoiding discussing it to play it safe. We - gamers - need folks like you to call it out into the light of day.

[@Saint_Wolf_]

What did we learn? This just shows that we didn't spend ENOUGH, 400 silly millies is not enough! We gotta spend MORE! The modern audience will sure show up if we double the budget.

[@loneskankster2242]

The lesson we should have learned: Market Research is not a replacement for creativity

[@_Jeremy]

Please! Sony, Take Two Interactive, EA all team up and push billions into the biggest flop ever. Oh this would be such a fantastic timeline.

[@supersaiyn41]

surely if we burn more money we will make more money :clueless:

[@Saint_Wolf_]

@@loneskankster2242 what market research? which market was researched? this had no market research behind it, did you see the characters? No way those had any research of any kind, sort of shape behind it.

[@Ceece20]

Oh please, modern games obviously require a higher cost to the gamers. It cost us $400M for a flop of a game that must be burdened onto our customers. Yes, ignore that games can be made cheaper, with less bloat, and in an art style that actually pleases fans. It is obviously not our fault that our games must be expensive, filled with tedious bloat, and are a dime a dozen visually that it bores people to death. /sarcasm

[@WardofSquid]

Over 400 million dollars burned for this. Meanwhile, countless PlayStation IPs are ignored. The shareholders need to go, and whoever else was responsible for this travesty. 😂😢

[@exaltedfalcheon1793]

THEY COULD HAVE MADE ANYTHING ELSE!

[@tuskedwings7453]

Im sure whichever executive allowed this to happen will be given a few million dollar severance package and a more lucrative job elsewhere.

[@vincent207]

There should be a law that if something is not used within 15 years, it becomes public domain.

[@Scharfster]

bloodborne remaster/remake, but sony doesn't like free money.

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@tuskedwings7453 because he probably made a lot of people a small fortune in the process. the shitstorm at the end is the next CEO's problem.

[@railerswim]

“Sony wanted a Call of Duty competitor,” Aachem, MAG, SOCOM, Killzone come to mind. Revive any of those and you have a chance to capture some of the market. Maybe Sony wouldn’t have to worry about studio acquisitions if they didn’t close all the good studios that they once had.

[@mas8705]

Might have been a touch more accurate to say, “Sony wanted an Overwatch competitor.” Of course, we don’t need to go into great detail about how over saturated the hero shooter market is and how the vast majority of those hero shooters have since closed up shop (either Concord seemingly taking the cake unless if I’m forgetting a title).

[@GangnamStyle33]

Instead of using the hollowed out brand names. Need to start naming board members/directors. Such as the Ubisoft/EA fellow that's been roasted and tossed out.

[@Paisa231]

Do we really want these old time franchises be made in 2024.... If they made a true remaster or remake, without adding any modern politics in it. I guess it might be good, but I don't trust them!

[@TurtleChad1]

Incredibly sad what they could have used those hundreds of millions for instead of making this

[@brandonedlin2052]

Think of the yachts they will never own! 😢 THE YACHTS!!! 😭😭😭

[@arcadeportal32]

​@brandonedlin2052 Man even the CEOs buying a yatch yields less of a loss then what Concord did. I rather of them of bought a Sony yatch vs 8 years and 400million burned to a crisp.... Now people either way are also probably going to loss there jobs over this as well and nothing came out of those funds that probably could of even revived more then one old franchise and actually make profit with that cash. These live service games are such a gamble vs what Nintendo does, proper games and exclusives, proper system, and proper value, and I dislike what Nintendo does sometimes but at least it makes financal sence.

[@RealOny]

botted the comment sections award

[@GangnamStyle33]

Could've been a laundering scheme, or an OP lol

[@nicknevco215]

True

[@TheCasualSubculturist]

they literally lost 400 million straight up. How incompetent do you need to be to lose that much on project everybody else can figure out in 5 minutes that it's DOA?

[@Nurix09]

I'd like to remind you that Dragon Age: Veilguard is coming out and the devs/publishers still *learned nothing* They really believe that DEI crap will sell.

[@inthefade]

They are in an ideological cult.

[@argentqueen]

When your focus groups are about identity, you get this.

[@argentqueen]

​@@Nurix09And AC shadows.

[@byte-bg4ob]

They are gonna get eaten alive in the investor meetings

[@slaphead90]

Does a mega million budget actually make a better game? In my experience, over the last few years, the answer is a resounding no.

[@IIC7]

A bigger budget in THEORY may produce an excellent game. However, as we witnessed over the last decade, what screws these games over is a lack of solid direction and leadership. I've come to learn that bigger is not necessarily better especially when you have too many cooks in the kitchen.

[@VitalVampyr]

No budget big or small guarantees a good product. It's not like a huge budget means a game will be bad though. Red Dead Redemption 2 for example cost over $500 million to make.

[@argentqueen]

lolno. Goldeneye 64 cost $2,000,000 USD.

[@Krossfyre]

@@slaphead90 It doesn't make a better game at all. But what it does is allow them to pursue certain kinds of games better. And certain genres of games have had increased expectations of graphical fidelity, motion capture, voice acting, and complexity. The entry fee for a hero shooter than can compete in today's market is just astronomically high.

[@BP-dn9nv]

You see, that's the problem. A typical business mindset would say yes, which is why executives never learn.

[@billbo1x]

Glad to see they’re getting the day they deserve after Sony ran Hell divers into the ground with certain decisions

[@LittleBobbyTV]

The game only really started dying after Sony chose to not enforce PSN thing and Arrowhead started making absolutely shitty changes. If you believe Sony caused the Helldivers downturn, you’re misinformed.

[@byte-bg4ob]

tbh it was arrowheads fault that helldivers lost interest, they nerfed too much

[@LittleBobbyTV]

@@byte-bg4ob Exactly. Thats why I stopped played. Same for a bunch of my friends. Game just didn’t feel good anymore. That was ALL on Arrowhead.

[@billbo1x]

@@byte-bg4ob na the fall-off was when Sony forced there hand on the game and shut it down in multiple countries, the game never recovered from that pr nightmare and it was down hill from there

[@RogueEagle]

I think they nerfed the fun out of it. As much as I'd like to lay into Sony

[@alexphelps7042]

Creators tried really hard not to design the characters as stereotypical tropes. A noble enough goal, problem is they went so hard for that at the expense of so much else they ended up with designs that don’t say or mean anything at all. Completely forgettable and communicate nothing about who or what a character is. The most damning critique of concord I’ve seen is it kinda makes you appreciate the effort blizzard puts in for Overwatch.

[@JWSoul]

I dont agree with you here. They blatantly followed some troupes.

[@Pr0m3th310us]

What effort? Overwatch is every bit as terrible as Concord

[@drayle71]

Its good not to make characters stereotypical trops i feel the baby was thrown out with the bath water in this case they threw out character archetypes along with the stereotypes and while yes you shouldnt just stick to an archetype they can be useful as building blocks/starting point when making characters even if its to say 'well usually with a sniper you do X but why not try Y for this one'. Archetypes get knocked on a lot today but there is a reason certain things have become common archetypes they tend to be easy to understand and engage the audience and by ignoring the useful things there they as you said made very boring and forgettable characters.

[@KamiKaZantA]

@@Pr0m3th310us He didn't say that. He made a comparison between Concord and Overwatch. Concord is so bad that it LOOKS like Blizzard is putting in effort with Overwatch. He's saying both games are low effort, only that Concord is worse.

[@apophisstr6719]

The thing is, stereotypes are actually very powerful tools if you know how to play around with it (to make unexpected little surprises) in your character building. What Concord did was just lazy designing, staying away from the norm only for the sake of stay away from it in a checkboxes fasion, without giving them any depth and harmony as they stuff them all together. And the ultra-realistic graphic didn't help either for such color-vibrant aesthetic and childish-behaving "adult" characters. Even CP2077 gets somewhat weirdly cartonish at times (even with such grim settings) because of how colorful things are in the designs.

[@memorizedvisions]

Why do i feel like this will make Sony less likely to green light more risky projects.

[@Synthonym]

Why? Concord was as low-risk as they could come up with. Another hero shooter in a market already deeply oversaturated. If anything, it makes the case for greenlighting MORE risky projects that have some originality

[@blazikeaton7478]

@@Synthonym the only lessons the game industry learns are the wrong ones

[@CookTF2]

From the customer stand of point Concord was risky but for business people it was the most safest project ever. I can imagine the investors were wetting their pants when they heard a game was coming up with every character appealing to every demographic possible... by including none... For these people, the customers are an enigma, a black box. They have no idea what they are doing.

[@aster4jaden]

Don't worry everyone Sony lost $400+ Million on Concord, but atleast they made $100 Million from Blackrock. That was worth it, right?

[@calisto789]

You mean at best 5 million

[@aster4jaden]

@@calisto789 I do wonder about that.

[@aliensounddigital8729]

Sony can make it back with all the amazing headphones 🤑

[@TsunamiWombat]

TL;DW - the 400 million is a ballpark estimate of how much it cost to PUBLISH this game/studio across two seperate publishers, Sony did not spent 400m. Firewalk/Concord COST 400m across 8 years (and even then, part of that was going to other studios, and it included things like facilities) Suggested that the real reason Sony bought Firewalk was 1. the track record of it's CEO seemed to indicate a winner, and 2. it has a lot of experienced developers who worked at Bungie they wanted to poach because Sony also owned bungie.

[@bobbybologna3029]

tl;dr = they blew it.

[@doctorsilva1345]

@@bobbybologna3029I still don’t believe it. No way in hell this game costed that much. Unless more than half of that spending went to someone else’s pocket.

[@PhantomHarlock78]

Jim Ryan leaving makes more sense each time. He knew that he fked hard.

[@Xaito]

People: "Lol, they've lost 400 million on that turd" Bellular: "Wait wait wait guys, the game didn't cost 400 million. But the total amount they spend on it did." People: "soo.... they lost 400 million on that turd..."

[@MudakTheMultiplier]

I think the skinny is that the combined cost of buying the studio _and_ making Concord was $400M, the actual dev cost was probably only halfish of that amount.

[@Tk3997]

@@Xaito Yeah basically this. It didn't cost 400 million in dev costs, but once you add what they paid to buy the studio its likely in the ballpark of how much money Sony effectively lost on the entire project.

[@nongmar8783]

They wanted to be Star Wars . They achieved it 100% since the Disney Star Wars is pure shit.

[@tronam]

Well, except for The Last Jedi which is the best film in the series since Empire.

[@MediocreNed]

@@tronam What the fuck are you talking about? That's the film that killed star wars or at least caused it's death spiral.

[@tronam]

@@MediocreNed Are you insane? That's the only one worth watching, made by an actually talented filmmaker, not a shallow creatively bankrupt hack like JJ.

[@ahettinger525]

I just want to say, as someone who thoroughly enjoyed Horizon, I _do not want_ a live-service game in that universe. I mean, Sony, you do you... but I'm not buying it.

[@thecomicsarereal]

The CEO is out there disputing the $400M figure. It doesn’t matter what the number was. Whatever this game cost to make it was too much.

[@StateBlaze1989]

May be a hot take, but personally, I don't think most AAA games need budgets higher than the majority of blockbuster films. If your video game is costing you so much that it can rival some of the highest budgeted movies of all time, then something is going wrong.

[@Boyahda]

My search for the modern audience continues.

[@tiagocosmos]

The irony is all they'd have to do to recoup this lost fortune is bring Bloodborne to PC and remove the PSN requirement for their PC ports and yet they'll never do it bc Sony is run by morons and enslaved by greedy shortsighted shareholders . So glad I'm a PC gamer.

[@anonymous_2223]

Do we know what the actual reasons for Bloodborne not coming to PC, let alone giving it a 60fps update on console? Does it have anything to do with Fromsoft or is it for a fact just Sony being braindead?

[@tiagocosmos]

​@@anonymous_2223 probably the latter, so I've heard. Apparently Hidetaka Miyazaki said it's up to Sony.

[@jeanphilippeteschner8431]

​@@anonymous_2223 Because Sony don't want to. A bunch of people have already got it running on PC 60fps with higher quality textures. So I'm pretty sure a company with Billions in capital can do much more than that.

[@schwi76]

​@@anonymous_2223 I only can speak for the FPS. The Bloodborne physics engine is directly linked to FPS count. If this limit is removed without redesigning the physics engine to be able to accept 60 fps a lot of this would break. It is not like it can't be done but the change would cost money. Current FromSoftware Inc. games are capped at a 60 fps cap. I only guess the Bloodborne is on 30 fps because of the capabilities of the PS4 APU. FromSoftware caps their games at this time at 60fps because their game engines tie physics and animations to the frame rate, which can break if it goes higher. They aim for stable performance on all platforms and keep the gameplay consistent, ensuring combat remains precise. Prioritizing stability over higher frame rates helps prevent stuttering and other issues that could affect the experience. More inclusive answer why they are engine behave that way.

[@maleficar5776]

nah, no one on pc is going to buy it, the minute it's cracked there's going to be 0 sales.

[@marcusclark1339]

Concord - ongoing cost for millions just to keep finishing it - 200 million before alpha started, another 200 to finish it - outsourced 2 years before to get it out and finished - 400 million budget - no word on til alpha : onboarding and monetization, 2 years before release - Sony's biggest lost so far - TLOU 220 mil, SM3 350 mil, this cost more - about 1mil of that 400 mil made back - championed behind the scene as "star wars" levels of Sony - "the future of Sony" - code name : Chaos - Toxic Positivity - couldn't critique or call it out, not allowed - echo chamber, character design issues ignored, attacked, vitriol - Concord episode before Condord was even released from Amazon "secret level" - tone deaf cart before the horse

[@undertoner385]

The industry just needs to go back to making games that challenge gamers' minds and skills in truly novel ways. They can be scrappy with just workable graphics - and if it's fun, that's value. It's.. not that hard. Suits need to get their heads out of their asses and try to maximize quality or Concord-like situations are *increasingly likely*

[@Rain1]

At least no man's sky turned it around after a few years. Can't turn around an ideology that pervades the entire development team

[@calisto789]

What ideology?

[@argentqueen]

​@@calisto789neoliberalism / ROYGBIV / DEI / (World Economic Forum-ism)

[@MrTripleAgamer]

I just wish not so many games were being made for next to non existent audiences... the wasted potential.

[@Xamufam]

ghost of tsushima took 6 years to develop and had 160 developed it costed 60 million dollars and it was developed at the same place as Concord

[@dawningmoment]

Jack Ryan lit this bag of shit on the front porch and never looked back.

[@renmcmanus]

To an extent you are basically arguing that the lunch platform for a space rocket isn't part of the cost of the rocket. Because it is not LITERALLY part of the rocket. The building, the space, the extra people, the extra time. These are all costs relevant to the creation of the game. So it was probably more like 300 million. It hardly matters. The GAME is still nearly 5 times over budget. And all to fund incompetent developers and vary good animators. To bad the animators were working on movies instead of the game.

[@marcusclark1339]

this

[@mismismism]

It's worrying to me that so many people had to be involved, so much money was riding on the project and somehow, no one with any pull at least, was like "These designs are awful and bland", no one realized they were just making a worse looking Overwatch/Guardians of the Galaxy? It's baffling when a project has so much money pumped into it, seemingly has so much riding on its success, but it was so obviously going to fail to anyone with eyes. With that much money, toxic positivity shouldn't even be a thing, even fast food places have some frigid higher up that comes in and nitpicks everything. How did they not have someone harsh with power go "WTF is this? Fix it NOW!" in almost a decade?

[@NFStrife]

@@mismismism the long short of it was toxic positivity. Multiple sources say you weren’t allowed to say anything bad about it as per the NDA contract they signed. Honestly it was also run by a bunch of activists too up in their butt to see everything wrong about it. Especially the cost, another thing is how many people working on it. It’s literally an hour long credit for everyone who helped made it.

[@danilooliveira6580]

because the game was basically a venture capitalist bubble. the idea wasn't to make a good game, the idea was to make a huge project to attract investment. that is why the toxic positivity is key here, because if they make it look like the project is going to hell then everything fall apart. as for the designs, I believe it's a issue of "too many cooks in the kitchen". because if you look at the concept art, the cell shading animations, and finally the final product, it's like each team had a different vision of how the game was supposed to look like. the concept arts seemed to look great, the designs fit incredibly well for the cartoony cell shading style, but then they just made them photorealistic for the game without thinking if the designs fit the aesthetics.

[@MediocreNed]

When you have an employee that demanding she be called 'the professor' even though she doesn't have a doctorate, and got people fired for refusing it's not exactly a shocker the game ended up the way it did.

[@mkrenz]

"their truth" A grown man not understanding that truth isn't subjective is very concerning.

[@loneskankster2242]

It's 2024. The truth is whatever the internet says it is now

[@Ichi.Capeta]

I could really make use of that 0.1% from 400 million dollars though

[@vomaufgang]

It would be nice if, whenever you quote something, you actually quoted correctly, verbatim, without shuffling words around. The order of words can be important for emphasis or meaning. Thus you quoting correctly when reporting on something is important.

[@Synthonym]

Exactly. The details are everything

[@Sypitz]

We know the big part of why they failed, why won’t you share it?

[@calisto789]

What?

[@OmegaSaiyanPrince]

What isnt being shared im confused idk whats going on whats the real reason that it fell?

[@captainsavvy07]

@@OmegaSaiyanPrince terminally online people have got it into their heads that "wokeness" and "DEI" are the reason it failed. Which is horseshit tbh. It was a hero shooter with forgettable uninteresting heroes that released into an already saturated market of hero shooters after the genre had already peaked.

[@OmegaSaiyanPrince]

@@captainsavvy07 aah gotcha. Tryna capture Ow's embers when they themselves burned out already too. Wild

[@captainsavvy07]

@@OmegaSaiyanPrince Pretty much. Hero shooters were still pretty new when they started development on it, but it took way too long to release and by the time it did the world of gaming had moved on; the market for hero shooters was already full of other games trying to take OW's crown, and a lot of people were just completely over live service games.

[@LocrianDorian]

It doesn't matter if it's 100, 200, or 400 million, it's still the biggest failure of all time regardless. Unlaunched in less than two weeks, and the laughing stock of the gaming industry as well as gamers. Concord jokes will never stop being funny. I can see some people on Twitter are trying to cope, but they will need a bigger canister of copium.

[@kjaere2313]

“I condensed down the 8 min discussion in the podcast” then proceeds to talk showing he listened to nothing besides the text on the tweet

[@thegreenraiden]

The biggest issue was the character designs. They all look super lame. And that matters A LOT when the game is just pvp. Then the nail in the coffin was the lame mini revela trailer, which made it look generic and forced. Those two killed the game. Doesnt matter how good the gameplay is or graphics are.

[@phattjohnson]

I spent $400 on landscaping my front and side yards and it's currently lasted more than FOUR (4) weeks.. take THAT Sony :P

[@Spartanfred104]

Meanwhile Valve has an unreleased Alpha that's getting 100k concurrent players that none of us have paid for and the game is amazing. 😂

[@168original7]

It sounds more like 500+ million lost tbh. I didn’t know the vr funding was so expensive.

[@DeathInTheSnow]

All I'm gonna say is that this wouldn't have happened if they made another WipEout game.

[@Pikopati]

The credits for the Lord of the Rings The return of the king is the one of the longest credits in movies (even longer than star wars that are movies from 2 to 3 hours full of CGI and effects) which was over 20 minutes because they added all the fans. The credits for Concord last for over 75 minutes (most of them have no experience previously to this project) and they barely made 5 Maps and 16 characters.

[@CruentusV]

"the way the industry works" is a wonderful excuse. the industry "works" this way because of a mindset, one not based on facts but dogma based on perception. it comes down to the executives - the same executives who were not hired on applicable merit and who chose, and continue to choose, to make product decisions that are extremely contrary to customer goodwill and fiduciary responsibility. these executives are entirely divorced from any actual knowledge of the company who hired them, the products their companies make, and the customers who by their customers. their decisions are not based on actual research or any real attempt at actual understanding the situation in which their company or industry is in. these executives, every last one of them, need to be removed before any improvement can occur. this applies to sony and all other companies in every single industry...

[@popo237]

As the Italians say "Go eh wokeh go eh brokeh"

[@cloudyspeed]

Sorry for the developers, deserved for sony

[@DenethorDurrandir]

"what about the Bungie acquisition" in my head, Skeletor's voice: "...It happened Again!" "as for Bungie's new CEO" in my head, Skeletor's voice: "the Dickhead in charge"

[@Bakemer94]

Jesus Sony, just give yourselves some $100m bonuses. Id rather the money went somewhere, than used for destroying entire studios and peoples careers.

[@aznhomig]

"Toxic Positivity" is just another way of saying "shared delusion".

[@brokenm8950]

In otherwards, Sony spent 400 million dollars on the game cause they were the publisher funding the game throughout its development and any attempt to claim otherwise is wishful thinking. The fact that they are getting Amazon to make a tv tie-in shows just how much money was sunk into this.

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

GamerGate 2.0 shall ever be blamed for this...

[@Mytelefe]

They certainly do have the skills to steal cheques.

[@akiramasashi9317]

We could've gotten a new Killzone game for that 400 mil.

[@billbillinger2117]

I'm still trying to figure out where the money went... doesn't seem like it went towards development.

[@duncanw5644]

If there’s any silver lining to this, at least Firewalk likely won’t get fired if Song follows through and lets them help Bungie with Marathon.

[@laylaalder2251]

"Personal Truth" - bruh.

[@Neil.02]

8 years and $400 million utterly wasted. Remember when they called people, i quote, « talentless freaks »? The irony speaks for itself.

[@Mytelefe]

No you do not understand those evil suits at sony didn't even give this game a chance !

[@kawaiibats2822]

It's just one of the minor developers on twitter who said that. but it does probably reflect an echo chambery, toxic positivity type of culture, for sure.

[@monody]

Lets face it, Marathon has been destined to fail from it's inception.

[@The92Ghost]

I am glad that they did lost so many money. It just shows how much they lost the grip of their playerbase and what players like. Concord, Suicide Squad or other live-service BS should be erased entirely from the market and companies should stop being so greedy and trying to milk their consumers. So the more of those big companies flop the better for us since new studios open completely ran by devs which should have been so since the beginning. Of course, they are welcomed to return with products that have higher quality over quantity, and aim at delivering proper in-depth storylines with interesting world building and lore. It can't be that hard to concentrate more the creative side instead on a system via which you can milk endlessly a player... pointless.

[@stefanradebach2889]

I can say with confidence that this is the single biggest epic fail in gaming history and won't be topped for a long time.

[@systemicbreakdown7864]

Spending $400 mil on a bunch of adult babies working in a "no criticism allowed" safe space? SONY come on... you need to TRIPLE the budged if you want results.

[@Ehh.....]

400 mill could have gotten us like 7 Ape Escape games. SMDH

[@indefiance8060]

They spent way more then $400 mil. How much they also pay for the company and how much they waste in making the TV show and all the other spinoffs and how much did they waste in Merchandising?

[@the_hiroman]

Imagine all the bloodborne games we could have gotten with 400 million.

[@TheRogueWolf]

Every inch of this game was Live Service Hero Shooter Product, and I'll bet a dollar to a bent dime that that's exactly what the executives demanded.

[@xani666]

I don't think company that can't even figure out game they are making is uninteresting gonna be any help for bungie

[@KayoMichiels]

This is why the PS4 Pro is 699$ without stand and disc drive and the price hike of the controllers.. you gotta pay the Concord tax!

[@argentqueen]

Don't buy COVID development era slop games. There is 1% of stuff that is actually good, and the rest isn't.

[@doctorsilva1345]

People actually believe this game costed $400m?

[@damil5721]

Doesn't matter, Vanguard and Blackrock have unlimited funds.

[@Alewxx]

(400m/400ppl)/8years, makes average of 125k, that seems fitting.

[@insertinsulthere488]

Love ya Belly, but you're splitting hairs with this one. The only reason to care how much Concord lost is knowing how hard to laugh. Even if the game cost $2million it would've lost money. That's a new class of suckage

[@slouch186]

ive seen plenty of videos complaining about it being a hero shooter and the aesthetics but i wonder if this game was fun to play or not

[@randallgibson4598]

I still don't get why everyone pronounces the game wrong. It's "conquered" like concord NH. Why do people keep saying "con CHORD" did I miss the memo??

[@stephenlaughlin1818]

Seems like a pretty ignorant decision to not release the game with that much money invested...

[@superjesse645]

Triple A loves to not read the room, huh?

[@TheBobolicious]

Did you recently change your lighting? It feels harsher than it used to.

[@szaty2]

umm that example... If I had to choose hobbit films vs bellular news to exist...

[@prathisahrudh]

Tax writeoff

[@anonymous_2223]

That what I was thinking. I would’ve said it was made purposely for this reason if it didn’t take 8 years to make 😅

[@johnmuraski129]

Well - this is what happens you publishers and developers attempt to force messages and identity politics and what not into games. They tend to fail. People want to play games to get away from the crappy politics of the world, not to get preached at.

[@dn9156]

Shut up. That's not what happened

[@calisto789]

@johnmuraski129 what is the "message" or political idea behind concord?

[@calisto789]

Preaching what?

[@Unprotected1232]

Concord died too soon for any new B-roll gameplay footage. 😢

[@STAN_LOONA]

Somehow spinning this to hate on starfield is impressive.

[@0ShadowArcher0]

Cool. Now they are puting the "The ad ends here" point, into the middle of their ad. First that joke of a game and now this. Slowly but surely.

[@astrothsknot]

you can't tell me it was only ever a tax dodge

[@Forevergames-vn6gd]

Still everyone is only talking about the dollars for the game itself. Tell me what a scrap of a full spectrum marketing roll out for the ps5 pro. A custom ps5 pro skins mouse pads keyboards custom ps5 controller, custom ps5 bundle. One CEO to another Bell come on, put your mind to that marketing cost right into the shitter! The damn ps5 control doesnt actually suck. No idea what they plan for all that hardware........ A few of the custom color scheme controllers made it into videos

[@Xamufam]

Sony should not have sold some if they wanted live services

[@zhugeliang2214]

Probably monsters? More like "definitely losers"! Am I right?

[@anonymous_2223]

They could’ve remastered a bunch of their classics and exclusives (besides bloodborne, is it Sony or Fromsoft that are not letting it happen?) for much less money and made much more in return. I know it’s obviously not that simple but just an idea. If anything, maybe they could be forced to remaster their classics just to make up for losses. Wishful thinking I know.

[@cernunnos_lives]

They paid too much for something that was trying to copy another game. And if they wanted another Star Wars, they succeeded. Because that failed too. Alienating your fans isn't the best strategy while trying to get another demographic.

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

This whole thing seems like it was a ploy to destroy the video game market.

[@Flint_Ironstagg]

no, they sold 25,000 copies @ 60 bucks so they only lost 398.5 million

[@Remi-bo7tn]

they refunded all the money

[@Boyahda]

The refunded all the copies sold. This video about Concord by Bellular has made more money than Concord and it's only been out for like 50 minutes.

[@mraltoid19]

"Marathon is a shit-show, quick throw some more shit at it!"

[@drayle71]

I have been wonder for quite a while now if sony's style of making games with such massive budgets is sustainable in the long term because yes they have made some good games all it takes is one or two big failures like concord is now to potentially have a ripple effect across sony gaming division, will this cause sony exec above playstation to want to cut budgets to be more 'cost effective' or maybe cut anything that isn't a sure thing like a god of war or spider man game.

[@hedlund]

Oi, some of us avoided Starfield precisely _because_ it had been cooking for eight years, _at Bethesda_ . Edit: muh grammar

[@RagingGoldenEagle]

I hope they were right and Concord IS the future of Playstation!

[@H3xCore]

imagine how many people wudve been helped with that much money, i mean if u got that much money why waste it like that

[@TheNatos]

take that 400 million, and use it for a FF7 type remake for legend of dragoon. come on sony

[@Aaron-zl5gq]

Most likely they jumped on this during early COVID when live service could do no wrong and it was booming and now it’s not anymore , I hope this is a wake up call to stop making live service garbage , just boggles my mind how many 100s of millions get wasted on chasing this live service trash

[@RogueEagle]

I guess Sony is just going to have to release Gran Turismo on pc. I see no other way.

[@Spamthulhu]

They could have tried to make a good game without just being a copy paste of other games with bad skins.

[@yogran1]

Great games come from a great concept, not great money

[@garion333]

Look at you putting out a researched video in less than a day. Good job, Colin Moriarty for doing even less with his "insider" info.

[@chilbiyito]

I'm convinced Bungie people are bad luck