Sony PXW-FX9 | In-Depth Review & Test Footage

[@CVPTV]

A few edits/notes - Only the Mpeg Sub HD files are recorded on the XQD cards. The proxies are recorded on to the SD utility card. Also to be clear the Dual Base ISO is 800 / 4000 in SLOG-3. But when you're in custom mode the gamma you are shooting in changes that. Watch our short film shot with the FX9 here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2K3hGaZbtuNpqc Thanks for watching the video, what do you think of the FX9? Do you prefer long in-depth videos like this or should we separate them out into a few shorter videos? Here are the timestamps for the different chapters in the video. Physical - 00:50 Menu - 14:14 Tech Specs - 22:23 Controlled Comparisons - 30:16 Creative - 37:27 Conclusion - 45:32

[@jpragmatic7759]

35:57 FS7 to FX9 is remarkable. Skin tones and Bed hair clean up, significantly improved. Haha. Seriously great coverage. Well done guys.

[@philipbloom]

This was superb. Thank you! I have found AF doesn’t work on EF lenses. Metabones needs new firmware. Doesn’t work great in face mode thought. Latest mc-11 works really really well on the newer Sigma ART lenses. Although I need to update the firmware on those lenses

[@CVPTV]

Thank you Philip, appreciate your kind words. Yeah I want to test them all again once the firmware's for everything are released. Jake

[@vaatimatonveivaaja3197]

Just put the face detection off and put normal "squareshaped" AF insteadt. Should do it.

[@mickymack1230]

Slog 3

[@cgereueu]

Your reviews are incredible!!! Seriously, the effort you put into it is amazing. Thank you so much for posting the files to download, that is very cool thing to do. A couple of weeks ago I was filming a couple TV spots with Venice at 6K in X-OCN and I was really, really impressed as compared to Arri Alexa/Amira. It would be awesome if one day you could do Venice / Alexa Mini / C500 MK II / FX9 test in the same controlled environment. If you could also post files the test that of course would be amazing.

[@BrookerFilms]

I’ve been shooting on the FS7 for four years now and looking for an update more substantial than the FS7 II. I think it might have to be the FX9! Thanks for the highly detailed video 🙌🏻

[@alisterchapman]

Only the Mpeg Sub HD files are recorded on the XQD cards. The proxies are recorded on to the SD utility card.

[@CVPTV]

I noticed how clunky my wording was when I re-watched the video on here before publishing. I will add your comment to the pinned comment!

[@laurencechase1873]

Still making my through this but this is already an excellent review, thank you so much CVP.

[@CVPTV]

Thank you! I know it's a long one and appreciate your time. Jake

[@IguanaFilmArts]

Would love to see an AF comparison also with the Panasonic S1H thrown into the mix.

[@philipbloom]

kinda pointless no? The AF is terrible on the S1h

[@WarriorsPhoto]

For a long video you had my attention. Thank you for this deep dive into the new Sony Camera. I am interested and will look into it eventually.

[@stefantasic9271]

Could you do an Alexa vs Fx9 comparison like you did with the C500 mkII?

[@DJAnamaly]

How would this camera be compared to the S1H in terms of video features an image quality?

[@bananasandbass]

Thank you for the extensive tests. It goes to show how Sony have improved a lot on user feedback. I think its fair to say this is a little brother to the Venice for the normal operators, eng and docu or corporate users. The autofocus is impressive and the under and over exposing as well. Great that you included C500 mkII comparissons, where it really shows how strong the FX9 performs.

[@LoverOfTech]

As much as I love Kai W, and I say this with nothing against him but I am so glad he is not doing camera reviews for CVP. Really like your simple style and in depth breakdown of camera and gear. Keep up the good work🔥

[@CVPTV]

Thanks for watching and the support! Jake

[@LoverOfTech]

@@CVPTV absolute pleasure mate🔥

[@TheBlakerunner]

You guys put a lot of work into this video. Thank you! It answered so many of my questions.

[@CVPTV]

Thank you for watching! Jake

[@thatchinaboi]

F55 is still my favorite cinema/video camera from Sony. You just can't beat the filmic motion rendering of global shutter. It's 14 stops of dynamic range is not as good as the Arri Alexas, but I'll gladly give up a stop of dynamic range for global shutter. The FX9 is a good b cam to go along with the F55, but given the choice I will choose the F55 over any other camera out there right now.

[@MrCJHamill]

Is it better than the Venice? How about the auto focus of the FX9 Vs the F55 Vs the Venice? Would that sway your decision? The FX9 seems to be getting really good auto focus reviews.

[@thatchinaboi]

@@MrCJHamill I'd rather have a dedicated focus puller. Lol

[@MrCJHamill]

@@thatchinaboi Yes I didn't really think about that. Big budget productions would usually have a focus puller.

[@thatchinaboi]

@@MrCJHamill The motion rendering of global shutter may seem trivial to many that claim the fast sensor read out of the Alexas and Reds are "good enough".. But I assure you the subtle difference between a rolling shutter with fast sensor read out and global shutter is subconsciously appreciable. That's why some big budget action films still use film cameras. Just look at the motion rendering on the F55 on Vimeo.

[@thatchinaboi]

@@MrCJHamill I just wished the F55 had a sensor that covers the maximum height of the image circle for the true 2:1 anamorphic look without cropping. For now, the best film cameras are still king in terms of best quality, albeit hella expensive and harder to work with in post.

[@hubert_pelletier]

God damn your review are simply the best, you guys go in so much details it's crazy. I enjoyed every second of it and now have no choice but to upgrade to an FX9 :P

[@CVPTV]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! What you upgrading from? Jake

[@hubert_pelletier]

CVP I am currently shooting on a FS5, so maybe I should wait and see if they come out with an fx6 or whatever they call, it with only an Long-gop codec and SD cards.

[@mxntiibxba312]

Very perfect description ..keep uploading more reviews ..

[@derekwiesehahn9734]

Excellent test, I think the side by sides against the C500 II will be particularly helpful for people. Thanks very much for posting this!

[@HisLordDudeness]

Excellent review as always. Love the hockey footage - especially the fight haha!

[@CVPTV]

Thank you! and that was the only fight that night so glad we captured it. Jake

[@zaccajones]

Thanks, this was awesome. I would love to see you guys compare this camera and the C500 mk ii

[@bmbfilmshd]

Yes Please More Videos On The Sony PXW-FX9 Vs Canon 500 Mk 2 Please Thanks Bro!!!!!

[@richcerezo]

So the one extremely useful feature on the Alpha cameras is the 1/2 Memory Recall buttons on the mode dial. I use those for fast frame rate changes. This would be the most useful thing if possible on the FX9

[@bencorwin]

You guys are killing it! Thanks so much!

[@CVPTV]

Thanks Ben!

[@KittyGuerrillaFilms]

the c500 ii seems to perform over and under similar to the c700 ff - what this shows is that the fx9 is absolutely remarkable in overexposure than most cameras, also how well the venice is as well on this

[@barrygoyette]

Quite confused by the Over/under results of the C500 mark ii. Can you tell us the Gamma, color gamut, and color matrix that we’re used for this test, and also which LUT you applied?

[@benjaminbraten7384]

Incredibly comprehensive review! Thank you!

[@WalterTheBalter]

can you back button focus with this?

[@davidjohnbalce1111]

From 33:54 to 34:19, I'm a little bit confused. Did you say that the C500 II is still a worse performer in underexposure/overexposure using CRM over XF-AVC? Or it's better in CRM over XF-AVC in terms of underexposure/overexposure? Great comparison and thank you in advance.

[@CVPTV]

It's better in CRM than XF-AVC. Jake

[@davidjohnbalce1111]

@@CVPTV thanks for answering. Great video!

[@nathandd8541]

Amazing Review Nice job

[@jean-paultoshiro5612]

Fantastic in-depth review!

[@BrooksBurgoon]

Thank you for this extremely thorough review. Can't wait to get my hands on this camera.

[@CVPTV]

Thanks for watching! Jake

[@andreyvideograf3324]

Please do a rolling shutter test: Canon c500 mk II vs Sony fx9

[@2gunzfilms425]

Andrei Kizenko it would be nice if we didn’t even have to worry about rolling shutter. Give us a cc’d swnsor

[@daniellove162]

The industry has pushed the progression of so many technologies. I’m surprised that global shutter is ignored. I’ve had rolling shutter ruin more shots than weak dynamic range. ESPECIALLY when you try to do camera tracking in post.

[@1fareast14]

29:16 does the punch-in work while recording?

[@GriffinConway]

Appreciate you comparing against the c500 ii. Looking forward to see if you can run them all against the Alexa mini!

[@CVPTV]

You can kind of compare it against the mini if you watch both this video and this one - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWW3oqJ4d9uXnZY where I compare the Mini with a few cameras! Jake

[@Birkkromann]

I'm still waiting for the Creative Rushes Download 😉

[@AdamKuzniar]

I have zero interest in owning this, I'll probably never work on one either, but I watched your video just in-case :) Great review !

[@NicMediaDesign]

The variable ND filter is one of the key features I would get this camera or the FS5m2/FS7.

[@doug_EX]

Me too. But I have to say that the auto focus, the gyro data and low light performance are quite impressive to me too. Did not consider the FX9 until now.

[@beardedm]

Custom white balance in Cine EI mode? Praise gawd. Do you know if you can do a tint shift in cine ei mode after pulling your white?

[@bennoodermatt7036]

Really really well done video!

[@CVPTV]

Thanks for watching! Jake

[@bestamerica]

' can this camera fit with a Hi8mm videotape... is this camera can control stop blur focus in depth of field or NOT

[@MestreMur]

Amazing colors and AF...

[@DeanHarringtonimages]

Is there a way to make the transition of auto-focus smoother in the FX 9? To have it just pop out isn't as pleasing as it would be with a smooth transition. I do appreciate that it captures the face earlier than the Mark 2.

[@CVPTV]

Yes you can adjust this by using the AF Transition Speed & AF Subj. Shift Sens here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aF7OiqegfZiYe9U

[@dcd6115]

Sony's autofocus looks really great. Too bad the interface to select the autofocus points is a microscopic Atari joystick. That was a bonehead move by Sony. They should have went with a touchscreen. The FX9 ticks off so many boxes, it's weird they chose to handicap their amazing autofocus with a janky knob.

[@jaggedtoothX]

Yeah, it's weird. Their cheap mirrorless cameras can all do it. I feel like Sony could have at least given us the option to buy a touchscreen with it.

[@aljames7345]

Wonderful review, very detailed and infromative, thank you.

[@johnjacob2842]

To shoot 6K RAW in it , do we need to have external recording ?

[@alisterchapman]

The FX9 top handle is different to the FS7 (has a slight rise at the bottom rear) so some FS7 top plates that fit inside the handle won't fit the FX9.

[@CVPTV]

Noted! I need to try all of the existing and new rigs out and put a list together as I know this is something both customers and our sales staff are going to be asking! Thanks, Jake

[@joelawryDOP]

Do we know if the Wooden Camera FS7 top plate will work if you want to use the stock handle?

[@joelawryDOP]

Answering my own question for other peoples benefit. Yes the WC FS7 top plate fits fine on my FX9 with the stock sony handle still installed.

[@StreetsOfVancouverChannel]

Image quality is extraordinary

[@jasonwawro7409]

Thanks for review. Answered soooo many questions

[@CVPTV]

Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching. Jake

[@dfan4981]

Thanks for such a review rich with information. I have 2 on order.

[@CVPTV]

Thank you for watching! You will not be disappointed with the cameras! Jake

[@SocialBook_TV]

Great review, man! Thank you!

[@CVPTV]

Thank you for watching! Jake

[@A10Jedi]

Did you say “industry standard” in the beginning of the video?

[@MylonasFilms]

Awesome review.

[@axeldietrich3347]

I’ve had my hands on the FX9 twice and talked to a Sony guy about it. I’ll wait using/buying the FX9 until the first updates are coming next summer. The FS7 mk-I has 4K DCI and the 2K Center Image mode are both important features I use and would miss with the FX9. What I wonder is why some smaller adjustments and improvements are missing that makes a difference when working with the camera. I assume many of us work with different cameras of diverse camera manufacturers and could tell Sony about some easy to implement features. Is Sony asking anyone for this input? What about buttons that can be backlit when working in darker areas as a teater where it is not popular to use a torch? Buttons that can be switched off completely in the menu (as for example the «Full Auto» button at the FS7 MK-I, the Iso/Gain, Wht bal, Shutter buttons..) I don’t usw them and it is just irritating when I touch them by accident. It is mentioned that the Thumbnail button is such a candidate to. The LCD monitor cable that is weak and cannot be easily when it is broken (and that is happening). The bad plastic that is used at the Viewfinder and is broken at my camera. Sony wants 400.-€ for fixing this. A part that costs some cents. Good I could fix it with gaffer tape and super glue. The microphone adapter that breaks quite often, good this hasn’t been changed! Placement of buttons at the operator side that should easily be founded when working handheld/on shoulder. Why is the camera gray and not black. Black is better when thinking of reflections on windows etc. Why is there no recording lamp on the LCD when turning of all display info by pushing the Display button? Beta Sp cameras had this light... The record button of the new handle: why is it replaced? It makes more sense to have it next to the thumb as it was on the FS7 instead of «hiding» it between the other buttons. Sometimes recording must happen instantly. The menu is a mess. It doesn’t seem to be really improved. Without the User menu I would hate using the FS7. Menu bugs haven’t been fixed at least until v4.0. Why is it when using the Sony zoom 18-110 at Video>Monitor LUT ONLY possible to turn the MLUT for for SDI1&Internal «Off» and the other 3 settings «On» when the setting at System>Lens is «OFf» for Distirtion Comp. ?? You can find out in which case this is an issue:) Is it possible to transfer my settings for the FS7 to the FX9? I assume not. I’m sure there are more issues I don’t remember right noe. But of course the FS7 is a money maker and a work horse and I have my workarounds, but all this issues are why I would instantly switch to another camera if there would be a real competitor on the marked for my kind of work.

[@axeldietrich3347]

Sony guy said the LCD screen is actually a touch screen and will be activated later. He didn’t know when.

[@axeldietrich3347]

My hope is that Sony sees this:) A good camera but these details make me wait and see if there is coming a better camera or if these issues are going to be improved later by Sony. At the moment it is a camera made by engineers. Why should I buy an uncompleted camera lacking standard features as 4K DCI?

[@axeldietrich3347]

Another question I have is why the FS7/FX9 is labelled as very good for handheld work. In comparison the shoulder cameras as DigiBeta etc where much more balanced. FS7/FX9 is much more shaky (but still much better than it’s competors nowadays)

[@wildstylephotos6082]

Awesome review thank you

[@brechtvanhoenacker3224]

Is the shape arm for the FS7 compatible with the FX9? Thanks

[@simongentry]

why is all the footage slightly green?

[@EventideVisuals]

The autofocus test, that was the Canon 70-200 2.8 II or III vs the Sony G 70-200? And is that still a preproduction c500?

[@CVPTV]

III vs the 2.8 G Master yes & yes I believe the unit we had was still a pre-production unit. Jake

[@robertmumford3810]

A bit gutted they're using the same viewfinder connector as on the FS7, I've run into 2 FS7s and an FS5 which had issues with that type of port. Plenty of other good improvements on the upside!

[@Kemet3.0]

Why not upload the 4k version?

[@CVPTV]

This is a 4K upload What browser are you using?

[@marin_real_estate_photography]

Thank you for the very thorough review.

[@CVPTV]

Thanks for watching! Jake

[@jamesbridges1107]

Please do a rolling shutter test.

[@CVPTV]

This shows it quite a lot! kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2K3hGaZbtuNpqc

[@chrisbennett5796]

I have one of these on order, based on what I know I need and some of the info out there. Had I seen this excellent video before I coughed up my deposit, I would just have committed to the big spend without pulling out so much hair. I am sure it is going to be a great camera and keep Sony as the industry standard in this range. It might even drag some Venice customers away. I wonder if Sony has something in the pipeline regarding that?

[@stuartdennis8506]

Brilliant review

[@ThomazMartinez]

Great review Cinema 5D can learn this from you.

[@CVPTV]

Thank you! Jake

[@raredreamfootage]

It's because CVP is a store. They're selling.

[@ThomazMartinez]

@@raredreamfootage No other store is doing like CVP most of the other store only talk good things about their product but don't go in-dept

[@CineD]

We love our friends (and partners) at CVP and their work, and this is not a pissing contest :-) We will work on a longer-term FX9 review, more from a user's perspective. No rush with this one! Nino

[@CineD]

@@ThomazMartinez I totally agree with your second comment! Nino

[@doug_EX]

Does it record sound in S&Q mode?

[@javierdepablosvelez3602]

Excellent breakdown and review! 1. Was the autofocus test done on canon or sigma lenses? I have a feeling using a non canon lens is why the c500 mk 2 isn’t gonna be as good. 2. Is it me or is the footage from the FX9 over-sharpened, punchy, and crushed? 3. Based on testing both cameras, which would you feel is better for narrative/doc work: c500 mk2 or FX9? Thank you!

[@CVPTV]

Thank you! 1. Canon was the 70-200 2.8 III and Sony was their G master 2.8. 2. What footage are you referencing? 3. Both have pros and cons but if your planning on not shooting RAW I would go with the Sony. Jake

[@javierdepablosvelez3602]

Hi Jake, Thanks for the response! 1. Good to know- kind of a shame DPAF isn’t as good but that’s great news for Sony owners. 2. Footage in general from the tests you shot as far as the over sharpened look and then the crushed comment was regarding the footage from the hockey game. It’s not that it’s bad, just not my preference for out of the box look. 3. The FX9 has so many positives and I can see why it has true potential to dominate its market. Better colors, great AF, much better price, and same form everyone already loved from the FS7. My concern is most of the work I do is Canon based and I’m focusing more on cine work atm. The FX9 seems to have the better compressed format while just being an absolute pain when it comes to RAW (not as streamlined as the c500mk 2). My biggest concern is what you found regarding the dynamic range in the over/under test with the C500.

[@DJAnamaly]

@@CVPTV But I thought you said atomos is making the fx9 raw? I am interested in Raw for narrative and documentary work.

[@ClaireMcHardy]

Nice review... now lets see the video we have all been waiting for. Canon vs Sony head to head. C500 vs FX9... Fight

[@zachhunter7897]

The C500 mk II, like most of Canon's cinema line, is way overpriced, 6K or not. Canon just secured themselves another 5 or years as second fiddle to Sony in the 10-15k camera market.

[@VedaFilmCompany]

Great in-depth review - what are the available aspect ratios, that you can choose in camera?

[@CVPTV]

I do say in the video but it's going to be 16:9 and 17:9. Jake

[@VedaFilmCompany]

CVP thank you, missed that 🙏

[@TheSdzisuaf]

Thank You for this review, hope you get to replace that color checker really soon =]

[@CreatorsCorner]

Love the video, please do this for the C500 Mark II before it comes out!!!!!

[@CVPTV]

We've already done two videos going pretty in depth with the C500MKII which cover a lot! You can check them out here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJinhmyqgJl3qck / kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWW3oqJ4d9uXnZY

[@DeanHarringtonimages]

Excellent review ... thanks!

[@CVPTV]

Thanks for watching! Jake

[@yveslutundula]

Anyone please help, can you import your own custom luts into the FX9?

[@CVPTV]

You can't yet. We have told Sony they should add it so let's wait and see if they do! Jake

[@GeorgeAtanassov]

This was brilliant!!! Thank you.

[@kurtgremer]

Great video please post more on the Sony FX9

[@johncummings8602]

Nicely done. Thank You.

[@CVPTV]

Thank you for watching! Jake

[@avdpost]

This is incredible. Thanks for being so indepth! Have you found the c500 mII raw to perform better than the XFAVC codec? It's really interesting finally seeing a comparison here, can't wait for more. You mentioned you last tests in CRM were much better, how does it compare with FX9 (or is it an unfair comparison since we don't have raw output yet?

[@emilbrandt1754]

Thank you! Subscribed!

[@CVPTV]

Thanks for watching! Jake

[@Cowclops]

I found two different videos where people said they were shooting in 25p... I know that 25/50fps used to be standard in a large chunk of the world, but aren't all displays capable of 24/30/60 now so isn't that kind of obsolete? Shoot 24 for film-like quality or 30/60 for standards compatiblity...

[@CVPTV]

Here in the UK the standard is still 25!

[@Cowclops]

@@CVPTV But isn't it actually 50i/50p? UK tvs in the 90s weren't 25p, they were 50i.

[@creativeorstrange]

Reading the comments , you mention CRM in relation to Canon, what does that stand for ? I’m on the market for a new camera and I just want to assess where I stand between Sony and Canon. Thank you. Great video as always.

[@CVPTV]

Canons RAW Light. Check out this video if you want to learn more about the C500II -kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWW3oqJ4d9uXnZY

[@Ronbc000]

Many thanks👍

[@alisterchapman]

The dual base ISO's are not always 800 and 4000. That is only in CineEI. In Custom mode the base ISO's ratings are much lower and dependant on the choice of gamma curve.

[@CVPTV]

I say this in the video. Jake

[@alisterchapman]

@@CVPTVAt 6:06 you clearly state that the dual ISO's are 800 and 4000 compared to the FS7's 2000. This is only true of S-log3. I spend half my life explaining that ISO is dependant on gamma and statements like that confuse the hell out of people and lead them to shoot with high levels of gain because "they heard it on the web" that the base ISO is "X" when in reality the camera has many different base ISO's depending on how it is setup. So to state that the base ISO is "X" without also making it clear that this is only in a specific mode is highly miss-leading.

[@CVPTV]

@@alisterchapman I agree I should have been a bit clearer with explaining it but at 16:00 I actually reference your talk at Vocas and say that when in custom the base sensitivity is defined by the gamma you are shooting in.

[@CVPTV]

@@alisterchapman Also I think this may be worth mentioning to Sony as their own Manual doesn't even list the different base sensitivities in the different gammas.

[@alisterchapman]

@@CVPTV Page 71 of the manual lists the ISO ranges for each gamma curve type, lowest being base.

[@Chandler_Goodrich]

I'm curious; why did you choose to under and overexpose the cameras by 5 stops? I can't think of why any one would want to over expose that much in a real world scenario. Is it just to find the camera's breaking point, or have you experienced the need for that much pushing and pulling? Thanks!

[@CVPTV]

Exactly for that reason, to show extremes! Jake

[@organismx]

Yes Please , the difference between the C500 ‘s customer and and the FX9 ‘s customer !

[@LaRobertos]

ok I just bought one now I need to watch this entire 47:09 video

[@CVPTV]

Did you watch it all? Jake

[@MrDifferentTV]

Nice video I would say you should use a de-sser on your voices overs. They have a lot of high-end frequencies that are all in your face. And makes it hard to listen to on good headphones or monitors.

[@CVPTV]

Thanks for watching and the tip! Jake

[@mmmvide0]

Does the zoom control on the grip handle communicate with the Sony FE 70-200mm?

[@CVPTV]

No it does not as that lens does not have a zoom servo motor. Jake

[@ResizeFilms]

That lack of internal RAW is a deal breaker. It would have been the perfect camera for us.

[@MrlegendOr]

Canon RAW isn't real RAW. is processed RAW like BRAW

[@bjoernfischer]

great review! thanks for that :) now sony, put this sensor in an a7sIV and take my money :D

[@JohnDoe-mq7fl]

How much is it?

[@CVPTV]

Body only is £11,148 inc vat. Jake

[@jaggedtoothX]

I'm not understanding how the "Over and Under" exposure test was done here. By your explanation of the test, each shot should be getting brighter or darker as you changed the aperture.

[@CVPTV]

In resolve we adjust exposure back to our base exposure using the colour chart. Jake

[@DavidKudellMusic]

Great review, the FX9 absolutely trounced the C500 MkII on the dynamic range test...all the people who said the C500 II was better because of specs, this is why I kept saying wait until we see footage side by side.

[@CVPTV]

Bare in mind this is XAVC-I VS XF-AVC. The C500MKII does much better with CRM but comparing XAVC to CRM would have been unfair. I would like to test the RAW out of the FX9 next to CRM and see how they compare. Thanks for watching, Jake

[@ryanhamblin2498]

@@CVPTV did you go farther than 6 over and under? the FX9 seems to perform scarily close to the a7iii with an external recorder. Which is to say very close to the Venice from our tests, but I would love to see if how the FX9 and venice do at 7 over and under

[@CVPTV]

I didn’t go any further than +/- 6 but I can in future! Maybe this is an experiment when I get my hands on the FX9 again. A full frame Sony comparison video?

[@ryanhamblin2498]

@@CVPTV We will be doing one as well when ours comes in. We are hoping there will be very little need for an external recorder other than on the highest of high end jobs with the FX9. We will be looking at Veince x-ocn vs the internal xavc on it and the FX9 and then throwing the a7iii in just to see how awful it will be if we have to use it on a gimbal. Here is a video I directed recently on the a7iii with recorder. It can get very close to an venice, but the 8 bit can put you in scary places. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYW2hpeQba5jgdU

[@ryanhamblin2498]

@@CVPTV Also did you you all account for the 1/3rd stop difference in sensitivity of the venice and fx9? that may account for some of the difference in the over exposer as the venice would be under by about a 3rd on the overs.

[@paulinharm]

brabo!

[@daymianmejia5910]

wait so it can do 6K?

[@CVPTV]

It's a 6k sensor that downsamples to 4K. Jake

[@dcd6115]

No. It's only records in 4k.

[@russellmedley1862]

yaaawn!

[@kylekyle1665]

@CVP - Filming sport at 25fps? You really dont see problems in this low fps? 50 FPS is another world.

[@TheBjornarv]

@35:25 "[c500ii] is better than the FS7, which completely falls apart at +4 stops" What? Did we watch the same footage? I think the FS7 did a much better job than the c500ii in this particular test. The c500ii is really bad at +4 stops, while the FS7 is really bad at +5 stops. c500ii also starts to loose its color much earlier than the fs7. Which is ridiculous! How can this be? The c500ii is brand new and top of the line! Did you guys mix up the footage? Probably not... Is the XF-AVC a joke? If this is correct, I think this is the BIG take-away. Anyone who is considering buying this camera should be warned. "Hi! Wanna buy this one million dollar camera? Great. Oh! Just a tip - the XF-AVC is unusable. A gimmick. Was perhaps great in 2015. Stick with the storage inefficient CRM. Okay, love ur money. Bye, tatt ta!"

[@ryanmaes9551]

Does the autofocus features on the FX9 work with canon EF Lenses (with metabones or without)?

[@CVPTV]

I need to test it with some newer firmware metabones adapters. Jake

[@momchilyordanov8190]

The camera you are using to make this KZbin video, creates helluva moire on your shirt :)

[@Nvasseur]

Supreme high standard quality review. Impressed !

[@nicholasboule5134]

wow the c500ii is freakin cleaner than the fx9 at 32:40

[@MrlegendOr]

FX9 beat c500ii on every aspect. AF, Color, Dynamic range, sharpness, noise reduct, better sensor, ND Filter, Audio I/O, One operator control, and more. Sony lack just one thing, internal RAW. but FX9 does not think to be a cinema camera but for broadcast.

[@dcd6115]

@@MrlegendOr They each have their pros and cons. The Sony does hold its own, especially for it being the cheaper the camera. But the Canon beats it when it's being shot in RAW (which was not shown in this video). The Canon has true anamorphic, interchangeable mounts, touchscreen autofocus control (much better than Sony's joystick), larger LCD, optional viewfinder, electronic image stabilization, true 6K at 60fps. I also like the form factor of the C500 II so much better than the awkward Sony. I still don't understand what they're doing with that form factor. It's front heavy and doesn't sit on the shoulder well and yet you can't really hold it in front of you with the grip being on that extender arm and whatnot. Out of the box, I'm not really sure how Sony wants you to hold it. It seems like you either need and additional shoulder mount or an Easy Rig. All in all, they are both great cameras. I think the Sony might be the better buy though. I love the new Venice Cinetone color. It looks really great.

[@MrlegendOr]

@@dcd6115 FX9's 4k downsample from 6k look better( more sharp, less noise, better dynamic range) than canon's 6k With 0 downsampling You don't get any benefice to shoot with 6k sensors who lack dynamic range and soft your image. (make side by side test Downsample 6k will blow your mind) When sony will put out 6K, it will be a 6k downsample from 8K. Overall FX9 beat c500ii on most important camera aspects. better AF, now better Color, better Dynamic range, sharpness, noise reduct, better sensor, ND Filter, Audio I/O, One operator control (this is why everyone loves the FS7), and more. For me, the form factor is not a big deal. The Design is awkward for you I can understand that. but not for me and for most of the people. I can easily balance my camera with a big/small lens and Fx9 is not the heaviest Camera of the market. Yeah you cant use it on gimbale but who use a gimbal on films or commercials today? Yes, FX9 lacks RAW aspect but this is compensated by a huge dynamic range. don't forget that Canon's RAW is very heavy better use XAVC or PRORES you gain 3-5 stops of Dynamic Range and space. FX9 does not think to be a real cinema camera, but a broadcast, video clip, short films, Commercial and Doc Camera. Don't take me wrong. C500MKII is not a bad Camera. Canon needs to improve one thing for me its Camera sensors. Sony is more advanced in this department.