Sony's Spider-Man Universe DONE RIGHT

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[@pabliyurs7688]

As much as I like to see Miles, I want so bad to have Ben Reilly in this universe, for some reason it would fit more (and for difference it between franchise) MCU- Peter Parker (Tom Holland) Animated- Miles Morales Sony Universe- Ben Reilly So I would make the idea of a dead Peter Parker too, but someone (knowing about comics the Jackal) get paid to take Peter's body and make clones to do a criminal group to take the city and mess up the Spider Man legacy. But Ben was the black sheep of them because he was starting to developing emotions and his creator reject him Something strange but some tweaks to this and it probably works as a good origin story perfectly.

[@henrygambles3652]

That’s actually what I would have done, Ben Reilly as the Main Spider-Man but whilst Peter is cannonically dead,he and Mary Jane Watson have had two children Mayday and Ben, thus allowing for A Spider-Girl film! I would have done it as such Sensational Spider-Man(Introducing Ben Reilly, the Jackal,etc),Venom Lethal Protector(Introduces Eddie Brock/Venom,establishes he’s attempting to redeem himself now that Peter is dead and that he has to take down the Life Foundation and their Symbiotes, with the ending scene having Eddie learn of the new Spider-Man,believing the rivalry is back on, in a mid credits scene part of the Venom Symbiote bonds to Cletus Kasady,a serial Killer Brock was interviewing) Spider-Man Vs Venom(where Ben encounters Eddie Brock and we establish the Spider-Man/Venom dynamic with Ben ultimately winning though he offers Eddie a chance at true redemption),Black Cat,Kraven’s Last Hunt,Sensational Spider-Man II(Where we establish that someone is murdering Peter’s old foes and Ben faces off against Kaine, with the two setting aside their differences to fight Spidercide),Spider-Man/Venom:Maximum Carnage,Scarlet Spider(Where Kaine becomes the Scarlet Spider and has to deal with the consequences of killing Doc Ock as his former lover Stunner is after Ben),Silk,The Wild Pack,Sensational Spider-Man III:The Sinister Six(as there are hints in part I that Jackal was helped and we find out it was by none other than Otto Octavius),Venom:King in Black(which actually ends tragically with Eddie seemingly giving his life to stop Knull however a black glowing hand touches him and a new white Symbiote appears as he becomes Anti Venom whilst the Venom Symbiote is bonded to Flash Thompson!) and that’s it for now!

[@DiamondBatToons]

Agreed, I would've preferred to see Ben Reilly, mainly because he never gets any respect anymore.

[@henrygambles3652]

@@DiamondBatToons Ben Could be the main Spider-Man and when the actor playing him finishes their contract, we jump forward to an teenage Mayday as Spider-Girl!

[@carterblake3410]

@@henrygambles3652 yeah ben can work for this universe too

[@gamerhplayz]

Miles Morales was lead role in smu

[@maley2552]

Okay here's my idea for the SSU(Sony Spider Universe) Movie 1, Spider-Man: Miles Morales- Miles Morales from Brooklyn becomes Spider-Man after a Spider bites him, where he has to figure out his powers and such. He fights the Prowler(Which yes is uncle Aaron) as the main Villain, Prowler is stealing EMP generators that can take out all electric device and power in New York Also in this movie Miles attends a football game between Visions Academy and Rival High School from Jersey. The purpose of this is at the game Miles meets a girl named Gwen Stacy who goes to the rival school, she and Miles become friends. Miles learns that Uncle Aaron is Prowler & defeats him. A mid Credits scene is Aaron being told he's got a visitor. Movie 2, Spiderman: Rising(IDK for a title) Miles takes on Raneen Rashad who is a tech savvy immigrant whose family is struggling financially. Raneen attempted to bring more money in by monetizing her preternatural ability to work with machines. Her father pushed her to apply for Visions Academy, seeing her potential. However Miles got the last spot making Raneen want revenge. So Raneen makes dangerous machines to kill Miles. But as Spiderman he interferes, making Spidey her new target. Also there's more scenes between Miles and Gwen, in the last movie he got her number, they texted and called. This one she visits him and its seen by Raneen. So Gwen becomes a target as well. But Miles of course defeats Raneen and she's sent to prison. Miles' roommate Gangey finds out he's Spiderman and helps him in later movies. Movie 3, Spiderwoman- Okay probably saw this coming. Alchemex Labs is in New Jersey. It's run by Olivia Octavius aka Doc Octopus. Gwen lives in Newark, New Jersey, a Spider that gets loose from Alchemex Labs bites her and she becomes Spiderwoman. So Gwen finds out the spider came from Alchemex Labs. Gwen goes to find out what else the lab has planned. But she's found out by Octavious where the first fight of a few happens in the movie. When Gwen defeats Octavious she, as Spiderwoman, tells the officers that Alchemex has illegal genetic experiments, so the lab gets shut down. Miles appears in the beginning before she gets bit by the spider and they're having a little date. They do have a couple of phone calls where they both obviously really like each other & want to tell each their respective Spidey Secret but don't. However at the end Gwen is Visiting Miles and when they hug each other their Spidey scenes go off letting each other know, they're the Spidey Heroes & the movie ends there. Also Gwen tries to help her friend Ryan from getting bullied in school & juggles being there for him, her band and being Spiderwoman. The post Credits is Olivia sitting down at the phone call area in prison. She sits down to talk to someone who the audience doesn't see. Movie 4, Spiderman & Spiderwoman- so this movie takes place in the summer. Eddie Brock is a journalist with a web show trying to make it big. His web show has very few viewers, but Miles & Gwen watch it occasionally. Eddie follows leads on stories that are broken first by the daily bugle. Which makes him jealous of them. He then has an idea to get an interview with Spiderman & Spiderwoman. He makes a video asking them for an interview, to which they accept. The live interview is easily the most watched thing on Eddie's website and gets him National Media attention. Obviously Miles & Gwen answer as many questions as Eddie asks except for when jokingly asks their secret identities to which they of course deny. People are raving about Eddie's web show and saying it's better than the Bugle. J Jonah Jameson gets mad about those comments by people and he gets his reporters to get embarrassing stuff on Eddie to which they find. It makes people laugh at Eddie, he gets furious, goes to confront Jameson and causes a scene in his office, destroying stuff. Police are called to which naturally Miles & Gwen arrive to see what's going on. Jameson and Eddie are yelling at each other while officers are pulling Eddie back. Miles & Gwen tell Eddie to calm down, but in Eddie's fit of rage he takes a swing at Miles, who dodges the punch. But it's recorded by pedestrians and put on the internet and it ruins Brock's reputation. Eddie is released on a bond that night and he's walking through the park and a meteor falls and out comes the symbiote that attaches to Eddie. He freaks out, but he then starts to tell the power of the symbiote and it feeds off his hatred for Jameson. Eddie & Venom attack Jameson who's leaving the bugle. Miles & Gwen stop Eddie and save Jameson. Venom wrecks havoc throughout the city, killing many people. Miles & Gwen find the weaknesses of the Symbiote during their battle and use that to separate Eddie from Venom. The Symbiote is captured in a container and is taken by the Life Foundation. So Miles & Gwen become a couple in this movie and have a first kiss. I'm not good at romance but there you go. Also there dads can share cop stories and become friends. Movie 5, Spiderman & Spiderwoman 2- So Francine Frye is obsessed with Villians. She signs up for an experiment that New U Technologies is doing. Its where they are looking to see if people have latent genes that can give people powers. So Francine gets electrocuted, which activates those genes she has turning her into Electro. Miles & Gwen defeat Electro like what happened in ASM2 by overcharging her. Movie 6, Spiderwoman 2- In this movie Gwen's friend Ryan is still being bullied and turns himself into the lizard for revenge on those bullies.(I don't know if Disney & Marvel would let this world's Peter be used, so it's this Ryan character to fill this story.) Ryan, like Earth-65 Peter in the comics, dies in the comics from the chemicals he uses and Spiderwoman is blamed for his death. Gwen is hit hard by his death and distances herself from everyone, including Miles. Not wanting to lose anyone else. Movie 7, Sinister Six- Kingpin has been the one talking to the other villains in the post credit scenes. He gathers Prowler, Rashad, Octavius, Venom & Electro to kill the Spiders. Kingpin buys the Venom Symbiote from Carlton Drake of the Life Foundation so Eddie can have it. Miles & Gwen almost die in the first battle with the six because of their lack of communication after SW2 & Gwen is so worried about keeping Miles safe that she tries to do everything. After the fight Gwen finally opens up to Miles about what she's been feeling since Ryan's death. The two slowly get back on the same page and due much better in the second fight with the sinister six and win. Movie 8, Spiderman & Spiderwoman 3: Wrath of the Symbiotes. The life foundation have been experimenting have made 5 symbiotes. Scream, Lasher, Phage, Agony & Riot. The Hosts are Donna Diego (Scream), Carl Mach (Phage), Leslie Gesneria (Agony), Trevor Cole (Riot), and Ramon Hernandez (Lasher) The new Symbiotes go to their parent. Venom wants nothing to do with them and they attack him to which Venom barely escapes. Venom has to reluctantly Team up with Miles & Gwen to defeat the new symbiotes. In the fight Riot, Agony, Phage & Lasher, along with their hosts, are killed by Venom. After they defeat all of the symbiotes, Carlton Drake is arrested for creating the new symbiotes which resulted in the deaths of many people. Venom escapes, while Donna & Scream are captured and sent to prison.

[@doriandaykin2747]

I just really want a Superior Foes Of Spider-Man" film. Directed by someone like Edgar Wright or James Gunn.

[@DeadManTalking.]

I laterally had a similar idea after after the Madame Web trailer! kinda. Basically the idea is that would a Miles Morales film work without Peter Parker. Lets say that the Marvel and Sony deal went into a direction where the MCU could only use a handful of characters and the same was done for Sony. So while the MCU can only use Peter, Ned, May, and so forth, Sony can only use Miles, Venom, and etc. So here's the pitch. In this universe, Dr. Conrad Marcus works for the New York branch of the Life Foundation and has been helping in using a gravitational device that can lure in meteors safely to Earth. After the meteorite lands in the woods outside of the facility, Conrad and other scientist move out to secure their findings. With almost everyone outside, The Prowler begins his move and starts downloading data, stealing documents, and even takes an interesting spider in a jar. All the while he is communicating with someone on his com device until suddenly the alarms goes off. He hears screaming and panic followed by gun fire. Prowler couldn't help himself and sees what's going on until a body is flown through the walls and beyond the hole is a large, slimy, oily monster creating havoc. The Prowler manages to escape chaos at the facility and sees the monster disappear into the woods. After the title sequence of Ultimate Spider-Man, we are introduced to Miles, scientifically gifted yet he prefers to focus on his person craft of art and music. Jefferson Davis, an Lieutenant of the NYPD who has a hard time connecting to his son. Rio Morales, a hospital nurse and heart of the family. Ganke, who because of his MCU counterpart Ned Leeds, would be more like his ATSV counterpart with the addition of being a tech specialist. Aaron Davis, the uncle and pseudo father figure to Miles. By day he encourages Miles to pursue in his talents, while at night he becomes the Prowler. Then finally we have Gwen Stacy. A punk rock teen who understands and befriends Miles while keeping a secret of her own. She's a ballet dancer! *GASP* Some time after Miles gets bitten by the spider his uncle took(the jar broke during the chaos) he reveals his new found powers to Ganke who tries to convince him to be a superhero. Miles however is just wants to live normal. When going home he hears a woman in distress and when he peeks over the corner, he sees a large monster over her. Miles tries to work the courage to save her but is too scared to act. He finds the woman now dying as the monster leaves. Racked with guilt, Miles picks her up and takes the woman to a hospital but its unfortunately she dies as they get there with the victim telling him its not his fault. Racked with guilt, Miles and Ganke work on making a suit and gadgets for Miles with a montage of our hero fighting crime and hunting the monster. The montage ends with Miles in his classic suit and becoming Spider-Man. After the montage, Spider-Man fights and loses to the Prowler. All the while news of a monster in New York begins to circulate with the mayor advising the public to stay in doors. The Daily Bugle also reports how after the incident at the Life Foundation, several workers there remain missing and believes this was from the monster. That is until Dr. Conrad Marcus is found alive and taken to the hospital where Rio works at. Jefferson arrives after to question him but several men from the Life Foundation are also there, keeping Jeff away from the scientist. Conrad tries to warn one of them to keep away from him, that he cannot keep its hunger under control. That's when suddenly, Conrad transforms into the monster and wrecks havoc. Spider-Man arrives at the hospital and finds Rio in the same situation as the woman from earlier. Enraged, Miles unlocks a new power that weakens the monster(Venom Blast) and manages to fight it off. Sadly however, Jeff is mortally injured from this. It's unknown if he will survive. After Miles leaves, Aaron visits his brother and apologizes to Jeff on how bad things went in the past. He begs for forgiveness, but Jeff is unconscious from the fight. Wanting both answers and revenge, Spider-Man finds Conrad's apartment with Captain George Stacy guarding it. Spider-Man manages to sneak in and is found by the Prowler who, in order to gain his trust reveals his identity to our hero. He also reveals that he knows Miles is Spider-Man after they fought. Aaron wants revenge for what happened to Jeff and shares what info he knows thanks to the data he stole. Revealing the monster is an alien symbiote, and that it needs a host to survive. They eventually find and confront Conrad, where the scientist begs for them to kill him. The alien has nearly taken over his body and he's unable to control the its hunger. The final fight ensues and Miles is prepared to kill Conrad, but can't bring himself to kill him. Instead he manages to rip the symbiote off with his Venom Blast and Aaron is the one who completely destroys the alien. However because the separation of the two was intense, Conrad is put into a coma. When asked why he didn't kill him, Miles tells his uncle that with his powers, its his responsibility that no one will die under his watch ever again. After everything that has happened, the film ends with Jeff alive but is on leave of absence. He also doesn't forgive Aaron, but is welling rebuild his relationship with his brother. Even if its slowly. Miles talks with his dad and resolves their issues, and even tries to reveal his super hero identity, but decides to hide it for now. Miles and Gwen exchange numbers but Miles is gonna take his time on a potential romance until he can figure out his new life. The film ends with a final swing and a mid credit scene. Said scene reveals Carlton Drake at the main Life Foundation building in San Francisco as he is told the final symbiote was destroyed. He isn't worried since he's fine with the six that he has. Opening a fridge unit, and revealing six different colored symbiotes. Each one making a spiral shape. Sorry that its too long, hard to summarize ideas like this.

[@Supersaurus4]

This is brilliant! I would watch all these movies for sure

[@James_skywalker]

This is amazing. Love your videos. I would love if you revived your DCCU videos and your Flashverse series.

[@dreveonltc]

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[@enriquestudios5219]

Your videos keep getting better in quality! Nice man.

[@charleslee8313]

This is what I was hoping the Disney/Sony deal would be (granted, they can still do this, if they renegotiate, but this was my original line of thinking): *Marvel Studios* -- They can still do any movie and show they'd like, but they can use Spider-Man (and one Spider-Man related character) in said movie and show. Tom Holland doesn't necessarily have to play him; it can just be a guy in the suit, and he'd jump and punch. His addition doesn't add anything to the overall narrative of Spider-Man, but just shows that he's in the MCU. *Sony Pictures* -- They can have the Spider-Man characters, but NOT Spidey himself. They can reference Spidey, or see footage of him on television/online, and they'd react to it. Flesh out the other folks, and give them compelling stories. Give us fascinating villains/antiheroes. These movies can have one or two MCU characters, showing that this is the same universe. What happens here does not affect the MCU as a whole. *Spider-Man* -- A joint collaboration of Sony Pictures and Marvel Studios. This movie would have at least one character from Marvel Studios, and at least one character from the Spidey Sony films, and Spider-Man's project WILL affect the stuff done in Marvel Studios and the Spidey Sony films. This would benefit Sony and Disney, and the fans would be happy, since there wouldn't be this messy, muddled thing by Sony, and that Spider-Man gets to interact with more heroes. That was just my line of thinking. I did like this video's plan of a Sony Spider-Man Film Universe, though.

[@loganswalk8621]

Overall a good selection but I do have one critic the Lizard movie is a bit out of place plus I find hard to believe that Spider-man wouldn’t share the antidote formula with Curt since most continuities the two of them have a good relationship I would either scrap it or maybe replace it with a Kingpin movie and do it like a mafia movie similar to Goodfellas or Casino and frame it as Kingpin telling his life story while in prison and showing how much of a impact the previous Spider-man had in the past for putting away such a big crimeboss.

[@henrygambles3652]

Yeah I feel like the Lizard can’t really support his own film whilst a Casino/Goodfellas style story with Kingpin would be interesting, though it doesn’t even have to be Kingpin, it could be any of the numerous Crime bosses Spider-Man has like Silvermane,Hammerhead or Tombstone, my idea could be a film where Fisk has been released from prison following Spider-Man’s death and learns that whilst in prison, other crime bosses like the Big Man and the Crime Master are attempting to take his territory so Fisk gathers his main men such as Hammerhead and Tombstone(I know they’re usually independent but I feel like they could be interesting support!) and plans to retake his empire!

[@hammadb666]

Honestly love these kinds of vids of yours, I'd say keep going ❤❤❤

[@TheOriginalDx1]

The Madame Web art at 1:08 is wild, as although I comeplety understand the thought process, using a screenshot of soft core porn/bondage for a spiderman fan poster is crazy😂 Just had to say that, now I can settle in for the video😂

[@zachknight888]

Didn't even catch that 💀

[@ChunkyHandCream]

What if these movies are just a half of the bigger picture? Could be that these movies introduce and feature characters in possibly good crossover events with the mcu.

[@hamizanyunos1502]

Wait does Black Cat have a relationship with Peter in this alternative universe? I am pretty sure she would be sad to learn about his death and probably have very complicated feelings on Miles taking over his mantle.

[@eesakhan6164]

I would just make every movie and show a spin off of itsv and have a Venom trilogy to set up king in black

[@gamerhplayz]

This connect to future beyondverse Avengers secret wars

[@zachknight888]

Nope, just the real MCU

[@jonmcinnis1645]

@@zachknight888 I think a spider man universe should’ve gone more like this in my opinion here it is Spider-Man (2002) Kraven The Hunter (2003) Spider-Man 2 (2004) Kraven The Hunter 2 (2005) Sinister Six (2006) Spider-Man 3 (2007) Sinester Six 2 (2008) Black Cat (2009) Silver Sable (2010) Spider-Man 4 (2011) Venom (2012) Spider-Man 5 (2013) Black & Silver (2014) Venom 2 (2015) Spider-Man 6 (2016) Kraven’s Last Hunt (2017) Venom 3 (2018) El Muerto (2019) Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-Man (2020) Spider-Man 2099 (2021) Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-Man 2 (2022) Agent Venom (2023) Spider-Man 2099 2 (2024) Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-Man 3 (2025) Scarlet Spider (2026) Jackpot (2027) Hypno-Hustler (2028) Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-Man 4 (2029) The Clone Saga (2030) Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-Man 5 (2031) The Clone Saga 2 (2032) The Clone Saga 3 (2033) Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-Man 6 (2034) TL;DR: This is what I think a Spider-Man universe should’ve looked like.

[@GWPetersFilm]

These ideas are fucking dope

[@BlankEmporium]

1:25 and now I'd argue it's even worse than what we got. Just stealing Peter's villains and giving them to Miles not only disrespects Peter (his villains, not Miles) and degrades Miles as a character (does he really need to steal other heros villains just to have someone to fight?)

[@zachknight888]

His villains wouldn’t be stolen and given to Miles, if you saw the first pitch then you’d know that Miles wouldn’t fight any of Peter’s villains in his solo movie. And then the rest of the pitches deal with Spider-Man’s villains dealing with Peter’s death dawg

[@NewNrdInTown]

Lost me at the end, Bro but great idea great video. I would’ve had ben Riley

[@user-vh4uf2oq8k]

Now THIS is Kraven done right but the sinister six was wasted

[@jobeat4737]

Such good ideas sony should be taking notes

[@omegamaximus1727]

Your idea is way better than Sony’s and I love it.

[@CXIIIPHER]

My idea would be a noir type film since I absolutely loved that one or a new take on the character, maybe skip live action and do an anime adaptation but I also loved your vid

[@henrygambles3652]

Actually to be honest Sony should have just made live action Spider Verse stories in the first place, Miles Morales,Noir,2099,Spider-Gwen,etc! It is quite hard to make a interconnected shared universe of Spider-Man’s characters without a Spider-Man in it, so why not just focus on the Spider Verse?

[@CXIIIPHER]

@henrygambles3652 I agree just wish Sony could've done what they're doing with the spiderman games

[@gamerhplayz]

I'm ready

[@overtaker0604]

I'm Ready.

[@randominternetweirdo5479]

This might sound great as a concept, but who will do the execution? And what are the odds of it living up to its potential?

[@zachknight888]

I mean, it’s just a pitch video… so there will be no execution. I don’t really know what you’re asking here

[@randominternetweirdo5479]

@@zachknight888 I pondered the idea of Sony seeing and accepting your suggestions, then taking them in a messy direction.

[@DiamondBatToons]

Honestly, I would've been perfectly fine with the Sony making these films, IF, those films were only about the Spider-Men, but the movies were named after the villains, similar to how the Predator films are.

[@ankitmazumder4506]

I am not a fan of the Miles idea. Because the main point of the cinematic universe is what if Peter never existed and all his villains slowly rises to power. Using miles completed undermines that!

[@zachknight888]

But that doesn't have to be the main point? This is my own take on the idea, so it has it's own different main point

[@ankitmazumder4506]

Agreed. To be honest, a cinematic universe where Spiderman is never born and all his villains are slowly rising to power is a much more interesting concept than Thanos collecting infinity stones. It's sad how such a cool concept got wasted by poor execution.

[@je2409]

Spider man has such a rich collection of allies and rogue villain characters but the only ones who have done them justice is the insomniac video game universe tbh

[@TigerPurt21]

I think Ben Riley should be the main Spider-Man in the Sony Universe because Peter is the Spider-Man of The MCU and Miles is the Spider-Man of the animated universe so I think it’d make the most sense if Ben was the Spider-Man of this universe

[@carterblake3410]

u agree with that

[@carterblake3410]

i agree with that

[@philliprosewood7049]

Tbh I think we can all agree that a spider man verse without spider man was dead in the water it could've worked but since venom onward it's just been a fucking disaster and sony should just stick to everything else except LA spider man bc they killing it in every other department. Animation, Video games so idk y these LA movies are still coming out they already mastered the formula they just need to scrap this LA bc it's not working.

[@JoaoGabriel-gh2rg]

I need el muerto movie !!!!

[@SirsasthNigam.]

Miles is already forefront of Spiderverse film series

[@robertmccann9288]

Sony should hire you🤯

[@fadelrizalr1030]

They Will not hear him and just make it worst

[@kai_3788]

I feel like the Kraven the Hunter movie, with the setup you have, should rather be a second Miles movie. Think like, Spider-Man 2: Kraven the Hunter.

[@damienphelps2824]

Nice idea and roster for the sony spiderman universe here's my idea if it's ok with you Vulture tries to recruit other spiderman villains from other universes to take down his spiderman because he wants revenge for sending him to prison and for almost destroying the multiverse in no way home He tried to recruit morbius but he refused the offer so he decides to recruit other villains from the sony universes and different universes and one from his universe and they are Doctor octopus kraven the hunter hydro man mister negative and beetle After Madame web learns this she and the other spider woman travel through the multiverse to save the mcu spiderman And they team up with morbius venom and miles morales from the rumored live action movie Venom will betray them in the end because he still wants to fight the mcu spiderman for the murder of mysterio Andrew garfield's spiderman will have a few cameo scenes in the film and he will try to stop the Sinister six because he has a bond with Tom Holland spiderman and he doesn't want to see him get killed

[@bordeauxproductions9882]

Very well made. I hope Sonny is taking notes.

[@Grim_Race]

i think the perfect sinister six would of been vulture🐦, scorpion🦂, mysterio🔮, doc🐙, prowlerミ and shocker🤜 instead of weird Dudez that just want to B1te spidermen🕷🤣

[@zet5692]

I think it would be better if the main Spidey would be Ben and the first movie was a mini version of Clone Saga

[@vulcanoath6026]

Lost at me using miles

[@Bxndz-tz4qe]

Way better than whatever the hell there doing

[@creativityideas]

It's reach 1k views

[@SuperSireBoyYT]

0:15 im sorry, are they waiting until the second phase to introduce a spider person??? Huh…..

[@SirsasthNigam.]

Sony has already got a Razzie in Morbius something MCU never did -On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 15% based on 283 reviews, with an average rating of 3.8/10. The website's critics consensus reads, "Cursed with uninspired effects, rote performances, and a borderline nonsensical story, this dreary mess is a vein [sic] attempt to make Morbius happen."[112] It ranks as the 16th worst-reviewed superhero movie on the site. Sony is just taking every wrong lesson it could from Spider-verse films and MCU

[@Ayrtonsuniverse]

I think that you should cover Avatar!

[@creaturecraze306]

Today 740 subscribers

[@tggameplay4485]

700th sub

[@Caydeeboi]

But like Miles is already in the mcu

[@creativityideas]

It's 4k views

[@cheaptoons]

Now this is why I love Fandom ... They know better than these movie producers pricks and farts !!! this is truly entertaining, even at the beginning of Miles Morales too...when Watching NO WAY HOME, or be it's release, they say that Sony had a problem with MCU negotiation, that's why they tried to cancel it at first, then I thought why not kill Peter Parker in MCU and the introduce Miles in the MCU and then Sony can take back Parker for their so called SONY universe ... but maybe this idea can do a lot better. (especial the choice of characters too).

[@carterblake3410]

dude before i start watching the whole video i want to say i honestly do not like the slander against sony they know what they'er doing is in a weird way because they are trying sorry for sounding rude i'm just being honest

[@zachknight888]

Except they don’t… they’re trying to use Spider-Man as a cash grab without knowing or caring about the characters. They’re just pumping out useless movies that serve no purpose and go nowhere. They clearly have and had no plan in mind. At one point they thought about having Madame Web lead into a Spider-Geddon event, but after that bombed they scrapped all those plans and even made it so that Madame Web was in its own separate universe. That’s just further proof of how aimless and care free it all is. I don’t know how you can see plans for movies like El Muerto, a character who only has like two appearances, and believe that they know what they’re doing. Sony doesn’t care about these characters, so why should I care about what Sony does with these characters

[@carterblake3410]

@@zachknight888 i don't want to be rude to you so i understanding where your comming at i'm sorry

[@invertedLOL]

Why CAN’T they use Peter. They own Peter and are completely in their rights to use him, right?

[@RandomResearch57]

Well they already have a deal with marvel

[@invertedLOL]

@@RandomResearch57 yes but they still own the character right? They just let Marvel use him

[@austinmichael3086]

Venom wasn't that bad

[@zachknight888]

I honestly agree, it's just easier to completely start from scratch and erase everything Sony did, so that I can fully implement my vision

[@radrno7]

Miles is already gonna be in the MCU, besides they can't make a movie with Spider-Man in the title. If they could, they should just use Andrew Peter. It's a no-brainer. They should use Kaine, AKA Scarlet Spider.

[@charlesemmanuel6787]

I think Ben should be the lead instead

[@henrygambles3652]

@@charlesemmanuel6787 Yeah I mean Ben Should be the main protagonist, let him be the Spider-Man of this universe(they can’t use Peter Parker so have this version of him be retired/dead but I think they’re good to use the name ‘Spider-Man’ considering they were developing a show about Spider-Man Noir!) and rather than it being just solo films about the villains maybe they should trying do it as Ben encountering these villains!

[@Caydeeboi]

That’s what I’m saying he’s already in it

[@mochii813]

They're gonna fuck up his suit by adding too many lines noooo

[@charlesbomerschein9707]

Here's the problem. They can't use Spider-Man whatsoever. Which means they can't even say he died or anything of the sort. No one can mention him unless they got the green light from Marvel to link like that.

[@zachknight888]

I'm not an expert on the rights situation so I could be wrong, but I don't know if that's the case. Marvel has to go to Sony if they want to use him in any of the MCU movies, and Sony has the primary rights over the character. Spider-Man was shown in the credits scene of Venom 2, there were pictures of him in the trailer for Morbius, and he was mentioned in the credits scene of Morbius, so I think they would be able to mention that their universe's version of the character died. If you are right though, I did say that Miles appears in Secret Wars and that the universes converge by the end, meaning that I am also deciding decisions made by Marvel Studios in this video. So I could just say that Marvel gave them the green light, if that is what's necessary with the rights situation. Thanks for bringing up your concern though

[@corvenalemna8631]

I thought Sony were the ones with the rights to spiderman, are they not?

[@kendallfreeman6808]

Marvel doesn't own the rights to Spiderman. They'll have to answer to Sony in order to use Spiderman in the MCU. The MCU had to agree to terms with Sony in order to use him in all the MCU movies he was in

[@corvenalemna8631]

@@kendallfreeman6808 isnt that why they made no way home? From what i remember, they were nearing the end of their contract so they wanted to make the most of it

[@henrygambles3652]

@@zachknight888 Apparently from What I understand, They can’t use Peter Parker in their film universe unless Marvel approves, Tom Holland was supposed to appear in 2018’s Venom as Peter Parker but the scene was cut because Disney didn’t want to create confusion!

[@Jin-_-._.104]

Miles Morales is like the 6th best Spider-Man

[@lewisholiman9237]

Here’s how I would’ve done the Sony Spider-Man Cinematic Universe, going all the way back to TASM1: 1. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) - Mostly the same as what we got since I consider that film to be super underrated, except Lizard is more like a classic movie monster instead of having his plan to turn the city into lizards (unnecessary). 2. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) - Similar to Homecoming, Peter faces off against Vulture and his right hand man, Shocker. But they’re stealing from Oscorp in this case and hire Black Cat to infiltrate it for a particularly big score. While Peter stops their plan, Vulture makes his point that Oscorp is corrupt and Peter becomes suspicious moving forward. He even befriends Harry Osborn to get closer. Black Cat is the only villain who gets away. 3. Black Cat (2015) - Pretty similar to what you said, this is a heist film where we learn more about her past as she fights and then teams up with Silver Sable. 4. The Amazing Spider-Man 3 (2016) - Peter continues his investigation of Oscorp, which takes on Mac Gargan to become Scorpion and fight him in an attempt to get him off their back. Peter defeats Scorpion and exposes Oscorp, but at the cost of Norman Osborn learning his identity. Upon becoming the Green Goblin, he kidnaps Gwen Stacy out of spite and she dies in the climactic battle between them. 5. The Amazing Spider-Man 4 (2018) - Stricken with grief over Gwen, Peter is perfectly vulnerable for the symbiote to bond with him. It pushes him to rebound with Black Cat (who’s back in town for now) and take out his anger on criminals. Especially Kraven, who’s seeking an honorable death. After almost crossing that line by giving Kraven what he wants, Peter realizes what the symbiote is doing to him and takes it off. It then binds with Eddie Brock and Venom is the final boss. 6. Venom (2019) - Eddie re-bonds with the symbiote, which finds him in prison and leaves its offspring behind to bond with Cletus Kasady and form Carnage. Instead of getting his revenge on Spider-Man, Venom teams up with him to stop Carnage in the climax because he’s learned to take responsibility. He then declares a truce with Spider-Man and moves to San Francisco to start a new life. 7. The Amazing Spider-Man 5 (2021) - Peter starts to get his life back on track by officially dating Mary Jane Watson (who’s been around for a while by this point) and working for Otto Octavius as his lab assistant. But after an accident at their lab turns election Max Dillon into Electro and Peter has to fight him, Otto gets blamed and the project is shut down. This pushes Otto to become Doc Ock and Peter has to stop him from taking revenge on the board of directors who shut them down. 8. The Amazing Spider-Man 6 (2023) - Doc Ock escapes prison and recruits Vulture, Scorpion, Kraven, and Electro, as well as forcibly turns Dr. Connors back into the Lizard, to form the Sinister Six. But Green Goblin also escapes and at the end of Act 2, kills Doc Ock to take control of the team. While all of this is happening, the B plot is Miles Morales’ origin. Ultimately, Peter sacrifices himself to stop the Sinister Six and miles takes over as Spider-Man, setting up his own trilogy down the line.

[@critikalhit1440]

So the miles movie is just a ripoff of itsv and the miles game. Why not do something original

[@zachknight888]

Because I feel like that would be a good Miles movie, or I’m just lazy, you can pick whatever explanation you like

[@drunkdealer583]

Won't work. The characters that were mentioned (Venom, Carnage, Doc Ock, Lizard, Silver Sable, Black Cat, Kraven, Tombstone, etc) all has a deep, personal connection or history with Peter, not Miles. They should create villains specifically for Miles, not hand-me-downs.

[@zachknight888]

That’s the whole point though, Miles facing Peter’s legacy. In almost all of the pitches I mentioned how a lot of the story would be derived from problems due to Peter’s absence. Besides, I bet you wouldn’t be able to name enough villains that are specifically Miles’ to carry a whole cinematic universe off the top of your head