Soprano Guitar Build (...and Tone Demo)

So this was an interesting project. Don't call it useless just yet as there may be a lot of different designs to try and techniques. I really like those super high music box like notes, and if you could actually get your hand over to those super high frets properly, you could stretch some pretty crazy intervals on chords. Just think about it, we've experimented beyond both sides of the piano now!
*last minute edit: In the demo, the guitar only has 38 frets. I forgot I took one out at the end for the final print thinking it's print easier.
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[@YouTubeChannel-gv7ph]

This is the Most early 2000s dude I’ve ever seen. God bless.

[@rileytanner4476]

Forreal if u watched without the sound, his hand movements make him look like he’s singing in a 2000s emo band

[@FairyCRat]

@@rileytanner4476 Well his I Ran Out Of Tears EP is pretty much that.

[@nicholasgerardo2042]

I realize it's kind of off topic but does anybody know a good place to watch new tv shows online?

[@musaking5991]

@Nicholas Gerardo Flixportal :D

[@nicholasgerardo2042]

@Musa King thank you, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) I really appreciate it !

[@michaelgray9236]

Octave pedals: Am I a joke to you

[@ayyocam1917]

Lol

[@ayyocam1917]

Wait... Don't yah mean sustain pedel?

[@xxXthekevXxx]

SmashbrosGod 111 no. Octave pedals let you raise/lower the pitch of the signal. So instead of going through this man’s hassle of restringing your guitar and setting it up for “alto” tuning, you just turn the octave pedal to +5 and bam. You’re there.

[@ayyocam1917]

@@xxXthekevXxx congrats you got my bad joke.

[@antonbarkland2194]

I was sort of thinking the same. If you're only about hitting one note at a time, yeah, who needs a thinner and more high-tuned string? Although it doesn't seem to work that good if you have several notes ringing at the same time.

[@SynthChris]

And I thought it was stressful to tune up my acoustic

[@harryxiro]

Tune down your acoustic instead!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@harryxiro Yep looser strings are safer.

[@nehemiahzo_]

theMetal973 I play acoustic in D standard

[@ldub0775]

@@nehemiahzo_ I play electric in d standard.

[@nehemiahzo_]

Ldub0775 i also play electric in D standard.

[@tavicotavio]

When you have 39 frets every pickup is a neck pickup

[@kadenisgr8]

Lawyer Morty underrated comment

[@tavicotavio]

@@kadenisgr8 thank

[@ChrisGeden]

Neck/Middle/Bridge all at once.

[@SnahLhug]

He could split that HB into neck/bridge…

[@tavicotavio]

@@SnahLhug coil spitted = bridge full humbucker = neck

[@harryxiro]

*Djent has left the chat.*

[@dezthescentlessapprentice]

Then what joined?

[@harryxiro]

Probably pop punk fans which I hate!

[@cobalt._.27]

Delaware has left the chat permanently.

[@everchosenlily]

@@dezthescentlessapprentice Djentn't

[@tankirulyatetotak4055]

tnejD

[@satannix3065]

Jared Dines, Stevie T and Rob Scallon are literally shaking and crying right now

[@jasminedakota3958]

Same

[@MeatbagYourBuddy]

Same

[@jaedenrose6387]

Same

[@dekommunalanstallda4005]

Same

[@_kqcper_332]

Same

[@dylanjwebmusic]

This is all the more reason you need to make a song that uses every guitar from contrabass through to soprano!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Do shake it off with taylor swift and me at my house some day.

[@-jank-willson]

wouldn't soprano just be a 6-string ukulele with metal strings?

[@dylanjwebmusic]

@@-jank-willson actually yeah it could be

[@luxoficial4149]

I had to stop the video. My dogs went crazy.

[@JUNKO____]

There's a reason why mandolins have such a short neck. Look into the 1/2 sized guitars.

[@firstname_lastname3507]

That guitar is a 1/2 sized guitar

[@kenny.m.olsen95]

@@firstname_lastname3507 big bruh moment

[@juanmendoza2993]

@@kenny.m.olsen95 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@johnmoyle4195]

You forgot to scale down your fingers.

[@theabsolute23]

Good god, the anxiety I would have from tuning that high lmao

[@mal2ksc]

You might say that ( ••) you're just a little bit... ( ••)>⌐■-■ HIGH STRUNG. (⌐■_■) YYYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@mal2ksc That tuning is High B Tuning just like David Matthews.

[@thechadethan9072]

6:23 me when I skip through the dialogue in Pokémon Diamond

[@samuell.tankson4480]

Truuuu

[@wallywutsizface6346]

This comment is perfect

[@pacingtigersbv1786]

Omg hahah this got me

[@politicaldonkeygaming6336]

Thank you I hate it

[@adamgood3288]

I mean my ears weren’t bleeding but my dog was not happy 😂

[@Speedojesus]

Watching you tune that probably made me stressed more than I should be.

[@themetalgamer9864]

Same. I could feel a panic attack coming.

[@guerrillaradio9953]

Go back to the model, get rid of the plastic frets, and design in slots for fretwire. Also, a rigid material like Nylon or even ABS would be better at transferring vibration. I'm a 3D printing nerd as well as a guitar nerd myself! Oh, and try actually using it AS a lap steel, or at least with a slide...your ears and the windows in your house may never be the same though....and your poor dog...

[@Liminal.Headspace]

I think fretless would make more sense tbh

[@mal2ksc]

Also start with a 22-fret S-type, rather than 21. Then he doesn't have the end matching problem with the 22nd fret.

[@jdlawless_fuel1416]

It needs to be a steel string, the pickups won't pickup the sound as nylon is not magnetic

[@doppled]

​@@jdlawless_fuel1416 hes talking about the frets being made out of nylon, not the strings

[@jdlawless_fuel1416]

@@doppled oh shit I just re read it you're right, though why not use wood? And make a full neck?

[@bradycardia5955]

Quick question? How do you not have more subscribers?

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

God is punishing me or something, idk lol

[@Prozac20RXmg]

I subscribed!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions Can you purchase a Mandocaster 12?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions Hello there, those locking really work no matter which strings you have on it & they also allowed you to get rid of those string trees so that way you can eliminate as many contact points which are the points the strings break no matter which size they are.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions Can you use an Octave4Plus C5 String on this Guitar for C3 Standard Tuning?

[@eXSPLY]

You come up with such creative videos and ideas. Great work dude!

[@markopolo2224]

Lmao he played creep by despacito

[@joshuaramos4364]

Dude, to me, you're the LinusTechTips of guitar - always doing the extremes most of the viewers aren't able to do yet somehow having the experience shared through videos. Much love!

[@verandi3882]

The mad guitar scientist is back at it again , this channel awesome

[@rodriantoniak6158]

The Solution Is a Single Coil...

[@kenconify]

Rodri Antoniak that sound would be so tinny up there. Maybe a hot rail

[@rodriantoniak6158]

@@kenconify the DiMarzio ProTrack

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@kenconify How about a Piezo Pickup

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@kenconify Not tinny but it would sound like a Harpsichord.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

2:37 Unlike Down tuning where you can always go thicker and thicker, for up tuning you have to not only go thinner and thinner, you also have to shorten the scale length to reduce the tension which is like adding more frets.

[@tonywhitburn]

That string just gave up like “nah, man, use the damn piano”😂

[@owenmoody7125]

I kinda feel like this is something that DragonForce could get into. 😂

[@nikoknee]

So true 🤣🤣

[@theonlybass8947]

*Stu Mackenzie would like to: know your location*

[@regalseagull6810]

stu and his harmonics

[@Islander2112]

The harmonics are there without any modification, but your layout shows where they are. Excellent!

[@jawor7983]

i think that u should tune this to drop/open tuning and try to play with slide

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Ya, it's basically a lap steel anyway, might as well add a g and b bender too right?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions Wow it's cute, can you experiment with High Strung Nashville tuning?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions A Soprano Lap Steel, just too cute. A slide makes it easier to go above the range of the piano w/o having to tune up too high. Goldtone makes an Electric Mando Guitar ala Electric Soprano Guitar which is tuned an Octave above a Standard Guitar because it's just half the size.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions G and D bender?

[@M-I-LK]

All these My Chem references in the intro and transition... Im happier than you thought you could make a user.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

4:21 This fret board extension is awesome, we go well past the 24th fret & even past the 3rd octave 36th fret for a total of 39 frets.

[@unagjac890]

I wish I was able to turn the volume down faster.

[@mrkosmos9421]

Haha, you need larger cuts for that! Awesome punk tone

[@ottertotter]

The harmonic at 8:06 sounds exactly like Meshuggah’s Break Those Bones Who’se Sinews Gave it Motion

[@joeyuzwa891]

love the mirror reaper profile pic

[@LillianAredhel]

Bllink-182 AND The Offspring, damn the memories

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Uli Roth's Sky Guitar(both the custom ones and the Dean ones) has the neck pickup under the fingerboard. It's good to see that the idea I had for a 10 string guitar with a high A and D is not impossible.

[@dudewithtude42]

Super cool idea! One potential improvement would be using a left-handed model and flipping it over so that the highest string is the shortest (due to the Fender-style headstock/tuner placement)

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Or just swap an inverted (lefthanded) neck, interesting

[@MaladyKayjo]

Can you make the Freddie Mercury of guitars, one with a extreme large range

[@brycecourtneymusic]

If you wanted to be accurate you would need around 4 octaves. About d2-d6

[@nuberiffic]

Freddie Mercury didn't have that much of a range. 4 is about normal. I can do 5 and I'm not a singer. World record is 10

[@MaladyKayjo]

nuberiffic actually universal average is about 2, and professional average is about 3, I my self actually have around 8 octaves, -2E to 6d I just use Freddie because he the one famous for his wide range, it’s like when people say fast like a Cheetah even though a cheetah is not the fastest animals, that honor going to the Perigen falcon, but cheetah is the one everyone knows, just like Freddie

[@nuberiffic]

@@MaladyKayjo -2E? Bullshit. I mean the fact that you've got the formatting wrong leads me to believe you're just talking nonsense. But E-2? Come on dude, that's like 5Hz. That's not even infrasound yet.

[@ethanrosen5517]

@@nuberiffic How is the -5th octave any more ridiculous. That's the supposed man with the largest range.

[@travisjurs]

Dave Mustaine would love that thing. Love the ingenuity.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

0:19 It's called an Alto Guitar since tuning down a fourth or fifth gives you a Baritone, then tuning up a fourth or fifth gives you an Alto.

[@romeyjomey4539]

7:40 sounds like it could be a ringtone

[@SteelSkin667]

If you want to venture further into that rabbit hole, Thomann sells a 19" (492 mm to be precise) scale strat under their Harley Benton brand, it might help with shaving a semitone or two. If you want to dig further into that fretboard extension concept, how about making it metal and fretless?

[@ScttSt_vocals]

It would be really dope if you try doing extreme left hand cutout. And may be buying those .003 strings, even if they insist on not doing it. Really looking forward to see were this project will go.

[@barakahfactor]

If you've heard of the artist Bumblefoot (Ron Thal), he used a metal thimble (like the one used for sewing) on his right hand finger, and then tapped beyond the fretboard to get those high notes. Another thing to try is using the right hand slides that lap steel players use.

[@shtfeu]

Not only that, he already did the same neck extension on his Hand guitar more than 30 years ago kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5bKZoWGhLRpl5I

[@sebastianmcmorran8801]

When you have to play thunderstruck on the low e string

[@negoruivo2492]

if gerard way and eddie van halen had a baby, it would be this guy

[@ayanamirei6017]

With a little bit of Billy Corgan, Ozzy Osbourne and Geddy Lee

[@negoruivo2492]

@@ayanamirei6017 and roger taylor in bohemian rapsody movie

[@LilithNobody]

@@ayanamirei6017 You almost most don't need Billy Corgan with the Gerard Way. Young Billy Corgan looks so much like old Gerard Way.

[@hhectorlector]

Tenor guitars are 4 stringed instruments .. Wes Borland from Limp Bizkit used one (among a bunch of others - see wikipedia) - Ibanez custom made some for him . I think they’re usually tuned in 5ths

[@haydenrix4287]

He used a 4 string Baritone guitar. It was tuned to a low F#.

[@perghaps6989]

Sopranino guitar, I don’t think it’s possible,

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ @UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ Here's a 6 String Electric Soprano Guitar for you:goldtonemusicgroup.com/goldtone/instruments/gme-6 it uses normal Guitar strings but sounds an Octave Higher because it's half the scale length. If we have another one but tune it up a fourth by adding a high A, dropping the low E, & bringing the B up to a C it would give us a Sopranino.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions You can use D'addario NYXL Stings for all stings because they're very flexible. Octave4Plus makes a .005 High C5 String.

[@guillermorosario4578]

Your really on to something big young man...

[@megamangeek7294]

Would love to see a version (maybe with a very slightly easier up tune) with a modified body that lets you easily get all the way up, or even an entirely 3D printed body, in the same shape style as a gittler guitar

[@SimonPhoenix1985]

Please, keep doing your expirements! You did a great job and great video. By the way, I 've built 11 string classical guitar with 41 frets, first string is A, and I am using fishing line 0,55mm (nylon, of cource) and it is great!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

0:03 I've played Shake it off by Taylor Swift on an Alto Guitar w/ Pentatonix & the Hutchins Consort before the Lockdown happened. A Guitar I tuned up a Fourth by adding a High A on top, Dropping the Low E, and tuning the B up to a C to retain that one major third Interval. Nothing to complex involved, just using a set of Super extra Light gauge Strings.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions That Soprano Guitar is very adorable. The GME-6 is a True Soprano Electric Guitar tuned an Octave Higher.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

1:32 Octave4Plus made a super tiny .003 String for a super weird Scale Electric Guitar

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions Can you try a .003 String for a C5 String? It'll sound very soft.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions Tuning up just requires thinner strings and you'll have to be careful.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Why not add a Zero Fret:goldtonemusicgroup.com/zeroglide/products/zs-7f? It'll reduce the string contact in the nut by 93%.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions Go to full 39 frets. Tuning higher means you have to go thinner and thinner.

[@rahulnanwani9484]

Just stumbled across this KZbin video. Never been so happy to have found a new KZbinr I wasn’t aware of... this is quality content

[@hessianmusicdealer]

Do that with a 9 string guitar and you'll have the universal tool and you will never need to play another instrument

[@thebestyoda]

This non djenty guitar makes my ears bleed, I have to hit that brown note

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

So w/ B Standard, you can now play Stay or Leave by Dave Matthews cause it's in that tuning.

[@solidus4prez]

I think "descant" is fitting instead of alto/soprano

[@Cooperbsound]

I cant fucking believe you just lowkey played the chords from creep damn you. Also i just subscribed youre amazing

[@syllantshun9807]

While you're there playing at this so high tuning I'm here playing in Drop G# 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 lmao

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

4:30 I can tune as low as my original 25.5 in Scale Alto at A Standard & still be able to hit the High C.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Octave4Plus makes Strings for that super high tuning

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Said Too Much Productions Where did that Guitar range Chart come from?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Octave4Plus makes a High C5 String which is a 5 Gauge

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

You'll wanna try the Octave4Plus Strings

[@ScttSt_vocals]

Also, used to really dislike you - you were kinda annoying. But I guess I'm more and more into your stuff. At the end of the day - you are cool, keep it up.

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Thanks lol

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

There are Pianos that go above C8 such as that Beluga 108 Key Piano

[@ferna2294]

6:23 RIP sustain. Get an ukelele.

[@Covertoble]

what song at 7:10?

[@dawsonboyd75]

Creep by Radiohead

[@autobotsNdecepticons]

Dude, you're so completely nuts. Love all the weird ideas you come up with, but man, these projects must take forever.

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

It's a lot of work, thanks for noticing lol

[@dickdastardly2560]

At 8:33 my dog who was laying at my feet ran to another room and wouldn't come back until this video was over.

[@berpyderpy9301]

How much can you scallop a fretboard/neck before it breaks under tension?

[@alexanderfremen9981]

Have you thought about printing a fret board attachment with certain extra frets custom spaced for playing specifically written music that doesn't require any of the other frets? Like a guitar fret board built to only play Black Sabbath's Iron Man. Or higher octaves but not necessarily 39 frets worth? Hand pick and fine tune like frets 35, 37, and 31. Something like that so strumming wouldn't be so bad and rubbing on that plastic. COOL IDEA MAN!

[@matheuswohl]

youtube recommendations were on point this time

[@laughingdaffodils5450]

Thanks for the video, cool project. Ever seen a mandolin? I'd be tempted to take some cues from those in making a soprano guitar. Doubling the thinner string(s) should improve your weak signal a bit - or you could maybe get what you want with an active pre-amp. Personally I'd be tempted to go low tech though, and just double the top string (effectively making this a 5 string) or even the top 2 (giving you a 4 string tuning.) You'd need to redo the nut and I'm not sure how you'd get the bridge you're working to cooperate, but that's still probably less work than it would take to shorten the scale length more (since you'd really be fabricating a good deal of the instrument to get that.) Also you might try changing the tuning a little, thirds sound better on the high strings, so did you say A standard? ADGCEA? I'd try ADGCFA for a six string tuning, or DGCFAA with the top A doubled maybe. Anyway, very interesting to see and hear what you came up with.

[@laughingdaffodils5450]

Oh, after letting this one percolate for some hours, the obvious finally strikes me. An improvement you can make much easier than anything else I've mentioned (other than the minor tuning adjustment.) Scallop that printed fretboard! It should make it a bit easier to play up there, and since you're printing the thing instead of sculpting it by hand, it's no more work than just printing another one.

[@garycoates4987]

you should try frets set at usable intervals instead of the full fretboard for the higher notes like the Uli Roth skye guitar it's set up to reach specific intervals and still be comfortable and precise to play

[@montlejohnbojangles8937]

Honestly I can't understand why you don't have more subscribers, this is quality - if mildly silly - content. Keep at it my dude. ✌🏼

[@williamjhunter5714]

Thanks for this video, in the 1990s I was sketching 36 fret guitar with a mountable 3rd octave. Glad to see you play it and make it with a 3d printer. Finally I know what that sounds like. 😊

[@blahblahsen1142]

i cheated. bout a year or two back i added a fake pickup to a bass of mine that has one copper fret, its just a chunk of pine 2x4 carved and painted like a humbucker with the rear "blade" being a piece of household electrical wire glued into a shallow filed slot. so my bass has 25 frets, a regular 24 and a 36th lone fret all by itself. basically never use it. sounds cool fretting a 5 string bass B of 135 gauge at the 4th octave. lotta wierd harmonics that sound like a dying alien. i'm sure the neighbors dogs love it.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Those Octave4Plus strings are strong.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

0:44 American Idiot on Soprano Electric Guitar

[@fish3s1]

You could use a slide and push up to the pickup to get the same pitch, or is it harder with that tuning?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Can you play the Blues on a Lap Steel Soprano Guitar?

[@773Spair]

There comes a point where you have to start setting the frets whole steps apart rather than half steps. A reverse inline or balanced headstock might help with the highest string. If you want to keep the neck pick-up, you could skip a couple notes. I've been able to go beyond the fretboard with a slide.

[@hanten10]

Whammy effect are the only solution to get higher pitch on guitars but I really love your experiment it makes us really understand how our instrument and pitch works ♥️

[@AtanoKSi]

You are extremely talented, like for real

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

1:59 Your Baritone Converted Stratocaster has a Total of 24 frets.

[@kinniecas9004]

make a guitar with the range of a piano lmfao

[@truskoysusaventuras]

You are certainly an innovative fella

[@YaBoiRainier]

djent with the highest notessssssssssssssss LOL

[@charliejamz.]

So clearly this guy never heard of a Sky Guitar or Uli Jon Roth...

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

0:52 Link to Guitar range chart?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ @UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ Normal Guitar would be a Tenor 6, down a fourth/fifth gives you a baritone, up a fourth/fifth gives you an alto, down an octave would be a Bass VI (Fender Bass VI), up an Octave would be a Soprano Guitar something like an Eastwood Mandocaster 12 aka Electric Soprano 12 String Guitar.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ @UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ Normal Guitar would be a Tenor 6, down a fourth/fifth gives you a baritone, up a fourth/fifth gives you an alto, down an octave would be a Bass VI (Fender Bass VI), up an Octave would be a Soprano Guitar something like an Eastwood Mandocaster 12 aka Electric Soprano 12 String Guitar.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ @UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ Normal Guitar would be a Tenor 6, down a fourth/fifth gives you a baritone, up a fourth/fifth gives you an alto, down an octave would be a Bass VI (Fender Bass VI), up an Octave would be a Soprano Guitar something like an Eastwood Mandocaster 12 aka Electric Soprano 12 String Guitar.