The tigermoth has the same problem with the tail cables. And they have a good solution for the cables.
@flint33174 ай бұрын
Love watching your work. Your going to have a wonderful plane when your done.
@scottmatthews52804 ай бұрын
Hope so!
@n206ja5 ай бұрын
I'd just leave the elevator cable/leather patch as-is, finish the plane and fly it, and simply monitor for wear and rubbing marks for the initial flight hours. All of the proposed alternative fixes are retro-fit modifications, anyway, so you can always do them later versus now. Should you get some wear, you may find that a simple leather patch replacement will suffice and that's certainly better than drilling more holes in the structure!
@SoloRenegade5 ай бұрын
Pietenpols also have their elevator cables rub on the stabilizer LE.
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
I agree thank you
@Steve-mb8tg5 ай бұрын
Fantastic work, as always, Scott 😊 keep up the good work & she will be finished before you know it 👍
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@rcdogmanduh44405 ай бұрын
I believe it's pronounced " see- co- night." It's easy to curtique your process from a keyboard, but it looks great. I think I once saw a Sopworth elevator cable setup that was a patch on Stab like you have and a tube of the same leather sewed around the cable. Tight front and rear to not slide. I think it got the braid of the cable from sawing through the patch. Love your work .
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@Love2FlyKAP5 ай бұрын
Love following your build! 👍
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@philliptyler-t1w5 ай бұрын
I’m impressed by your attention to detail and your ability to fill in the many gaps that exist in the kit’s construction plans. Throughout the build you have often had to add additional material to facilitate construction and/or structural integrity. Will the added weight of this material matter much when it comes to the gross weight of the finished machine?
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
I don’t believe so. A little extra weight might help this aircraft as it will be floaty but draggy. Not much difference if I was to put on a few kilos!
@jasonbrand53525 ай бұрын
Or a brass mini wheel with a “V” grooved for a guide on a bracket self tap down
@ianblewett31185 ай бұрын
Fabulous. Cracking stuff. It's going to be a beaut!
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Hope so!
@SoloRenegade5 ай бұрын
Pietenpols also have their elevator cables rub on the stabilizer LE.
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Whiskers1325 ай бұрын
Your plane will look WAY better than the one in the kit-makers vid. On the subject of cable rubbing etc. I think of how effective it would be if I WANTED to damage the components. In this case it would take a *lot* of stick work for very little result.
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Thanks
@67hr745 ай бұрын
Scott, could you glue a thin piece of say 3mm nylon or thinner carbon fibre sheet to the top of the tail plane then put your leather patch over the top, thus giving some extra protection for the elevator cable. Cheers Trev
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Cool idea!
@WarblesOnALot5 ай бұрын
G'day, Yay Team ! That's quite the Bobby-dazzler of an Electric inclinometer...; Being as I'm an actual Hillbilly, I had no idea such a thing was available. I would have jacked up the Tail, and been happy to have done it Period-Correctly. Without going looking for a bit of Kit such as that. If I already had one to hand, yeah, sure thing...; but I more or less grew up in a Museum (!). Specifically, The Land Of The Beardies History House & Museum..., in Glen Innes, back in the 1960s my parents were almost "Foundation Members" of the Historical Society, but they only went to the second meeting (!). Xmas Holidays in particular, from 1970 on..., I'd have to go with them when they were on Door-duty, or putting something ancient back together (!). It's how I came to be carving Propellers with my grandfather's Wheelwrighting-Tools, at age 13, following a Recipe for Helicity from a 1938 Popular Mechanics Book - loaned to me by the high-School Woodwork-Master after he found my first Flat-45° Slab-Bladed Effort, sculpted from one solid lump of Pine, in the Racks of the Workshop Waiting-Room. For a while that book caused me to go looking for a 4-cylinder inline Henderson Motorcycle Engine, for a Pietenpol Air Camper. If one grows up in a Social Black Hole, where Time moves more slowly, and bad ideas take longer to filter in - then the existence of Retail-level Battery-powered Computerised Inclinometers wasn't a thing of which I was ever aware. For a Kangaroo-Feeder, I apparently live a very sheltered life...(!). Have a good one. Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Thanks Warblex
@philmiller6815 ай бұрын
What if you velcro'd the widget onto the tailplane? Velcro on the leather patch and on the widget?
@TastierBackInThe80s5 ай бұрын
The way that wire is rubbing on horizontal stabilizer is giving me anxiety, and I'm not even going to be flying the plane. Can the control horn be extended in height to clear the flying surface outright? Beautiful plane and results so far.
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Thank you I’ll sort that out it will be airworthy
@stevechopping30215 ай бұрын
I would leave the cable guide as it is, the originals seem to just have the elevator cable come out slightly higher than yours or the control horns maybe slightly longer, so in my humble opinion the leather is a fine compromise. Are you going to cut out the view panel in the top wing or did I miss you talking about that bit?
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Thanks, no view panel in the top centre wing. I’ll keep it simple, and hope no one attacks from above.
@stevechopping30215 ай бұрын
@@scottmatthews5280 Fair enough I did find a Biggles book with the Camel on the front cover not having the panel so you are in good company. It's looking good.
@danielgonsalves53024 ай бұрын
I wish i could be there to help you with this beutifull airplane, i yust love It
@scottmatthews52804 ай бұрын
Thank you very much
@thewrenchreviews99865 ай бұрын
Do like your openings in the tail for the rudder cables, but perhaps you could craft up a couple plugs to cover the openings when you are not flying, to keep bugs, birds or mice from getting in there and nesting? Red flag ribbons to remove before flight during walk around? Just a thought.
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Cool idea
@christianjensen55235 ай бұрын
Enjoying the build... very impressive! In general, how do you find Aerodrome as a company are to deal with?
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
No internet, no emails. All phone calls get answered. All questions answered. Build manual and dvd are terrible and inaccurate.
@andremarais27065 ай бұрын
Pietenpol AIrcamper have the same leather strips. Must be your Zenith friends commenting.`😎
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Ha, thank you.
@SoloRenegade5 ай бұрын
Yup, can't believe more "homebuilders" don't realize this about older airplanes. Perfectly normal.
@jasonbrand53525 ай бұрын
Maybe a copper P clip or two back to back self tapers job done
@lukegreen23805 ай бұрын
What about a little thin pad off say 3mm hardwood for it to rub on?
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
That is what the leather is for.
@model1issue1385 ай бұрын
Was the window in the Camel upper section a later model change?
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Not sure I have not research this. I didn’t even think about it to be honest. Kept it simple.
@model1issue1385 ай бұрын
@@scottmatthews5280 Keeping it simple is a good idea! Thankfully, the SE5a lacks such a window, but needs a rail for its Lewis! I had to beef up the structure to do that.
@dwainedhotmandevilliers21285 ай бұрын
Just a small detail as I live near it - It’s called Kingston Upon Thames not Kingston on Thames 😂
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Interesting, I wonder why the wrote it my way
@jmmvangoor5 ай бұрын
Make a little roller for you elivator cable
@davidbamford47215 ай бұрын
Agreed! Just a tube loosely mounted on a rod, mounted transversely under the cable, so that the cable runs over it.
@jmmvangoor5 ай бұрын
@@davidbamford4721 That's exactly what i mean, and little wear and tear! Greetings from the Netherlands
@SoloRenegade5 ай бұрын
Pietenpols also have their elevator cables rub on the stabilizer LE. It's normal.
@borneovet83725 ай бұрын
Just a thought Scott. Any thoughts on getting someone to 3d print you some carbon fibre pieces instead of leather to protect the tail?
@scottmatthews52805 ай бұрын
Carbon!!! Please….. it’s 1916 remember ha
@borneovet83725 ай бұрын
@@scottmatthews5280 better get rid of all that aluminium sheet and rivets then. As for the “wooden” struts. Well! 😉