Sora and Runway Clash - The Shocking EU BAN!

[@CMDRScotty]

So is Europe going to ban China's version of SORA too?

[@danielkafer]

That’s a great point. To be clear, the EU isn’t technically banning Sora, but its new AI regulations are so complicated that OpenAI doesn’t seem willing to launch it there. As for Chinese AI platforms, don’t they usually require a local phone number? The EU might also tighten controls on these Chinese services, but I’m sure the companies will find ways for Europeans to get around those rules. Honestly, I think the EU’s approach is overly complicated and counterproductive. What’s your take?

[@CMDRScotty]

@@danielkafer They are obsessed with regulation which is why they can't win tech races unless they are government-funded. Take Europe's aerospace industry which competes with Boeing and Lockheed. When it was looking like Airbus might go Bankrupt the governments of France and the UK financially funded it to prevent it from going out of business. The high-speed rail is state-funded in Europe and China but privately held in Japan. While the high-speed rail networks in Europe and China enjoy heavy subsidies from their respective governments the three largest privately held high-speed rail companies in Japan get zero government money. Over-regulation is the main cause of these problems and why they can't compete in the AI space with China and America. I think California needs to be very careful not to turn into an over-regulated European-style bureaucracy otherwise the Golden State will cease to be the innovation capital of the world. They already killed their high-speed rail project through government regulation and environmental law. They spent $9 billion on state-funded high-speed rail and laid zero inches of track.

[@danielkafer]

@@CMDRScotty I completely agree with you. European governments seem so obsessed with regulations and red tape that it’s nearly impossible for them to compete in cutting-edge tech fields without heavy government funding. It’s exactly what happened with Airbus-France and the UK had to step in with money just to keep them afloat. The same goes for Europe’s high-speed rail systems, which survive on government subsidies, while Japan’s high-speed rail thrives under private ownership without a single yen of government support. This over-regulation is holding Europe back in the AI race, leaving them trailing behind the United States and China. And you’re right to warn California: if it turns into a European-style bureaucracy, it’ll lose its edge as the world’s innovation hub. Just look at the failed high-speed rail project-$9 billion spent and not a single inch of track laid, all thanks to endless rules and environmental red tape. It’s a clear example of how too much regulation can strangle progress.

[@Kortex42]

@@CMDRScotty Regulations are to protect people. Tho they indeed slow down the economy.

[@Blaze6108]

@@danielkafer Something I've always thought is that if regulation is enough to make it uneconomical to launch a product, then the product isn't nearly as valuable as advertised. Tons of jurisdictions have extremely strong regulations on tons of things and they're sold just fine, sometimes with more competition than in less-regulated areas (practical examples in the EU: high-speed rail, electricity/gas, fiber Internet). This is assuming it is actually a money issue and not political activism, of course. Also, speaking more in the econ sense, this is technically an advantage to EU companies because it effectively functions as protectionism from the trade perspective. In these cases, you typically lose in total economic efficiency but the companies involved gain from their competition being damaged by the state. To give you a borderline silly but pretty relevant example, in some EU areas there is a market of both private and public identity providers (for stuff like booking municipal services), which wouldn't exist if it was allowed to use say Google or Apple ID for that, and those companies don't participate because the regulations are extremely exacting (for obvious reasons).

[@mybestideas1]

Don't sweat! I'm in Canada and it does not work. It keeps saying that it only can generate a video script but not a video.

[@danielkafer]

Thanks for letting me know

[@jaakkotahtela123]

We need open source AI. The EU will be unable to ban open source

[@danielkafer]

Very good and interesting point. Yet there could be some dangers to having the most advanced systems open source, if the US wants to stay ahead of China

[@jaakkotahtela123]

@@danielkafer Someone will create an open source AI whether we want it or not

[@backstabba]

@@jaakkotahtela123 Look up Hugging Face. All of them are open source... Just not video generation.

[@Blaze6108]

There's tons of open source AI, but you cannot distribute it in practice against the law. Most people do not compile source code from GitHub.

[@bonecircuit]

An open source tool exists and coming out next week. The datasets are all CC0

[@new-bp6ix]

This technology has no meaning and so boring

[@danielkafer]

I understand where you’re coming from but in advertising for example these tools will revolutionize how ads are done for smaller businesses that cannot afford to produce video

[@Drawperfectcircles]

@@danielkaferAnyone can afford to produce a video… just use your phone camera. The skills are more important than the tools

[@new-bp6ix]

@@danielkafer Don't look at the money and revolutionize, business is always about communicating with"""" people """and this is the worst way to communicate with people. Look what happened with Coca-Cola, the advertisement was very bad about %90 dislike!!! We are now in the future and we have developed many technologies that enable us to make a good advertisement with high quality. You now have a phone in your pocket that has the ability to take high quality pictures. Do you think this technology was available in the 90s or the 80s? Artificial intelligence technology is a technology for organizing, arranging, planning, and analyzing data. If used correctly, any small project will grow.

[@danielkafer]

@@Drawperfectcircles True but many large companies I worked with, often left it too late and ended up with just using a still image. Further sometimes you want something that you may be able to prompt but a location you don't have access to.

[@titanitis]

Meh!! I'll enjoy it in Norway. :D

[@danielkafer]

You have access because it is not part of the EU. What do you think, is it better than Runway?

[@titanitis]

@@danielkafer We'll see. I'm not going to be spending money on it quiet yet.. And I got a feeling it might be blocked in Norway also "just because" of EU.

[@titanitis]

@@danielkafer Jokes on me. Not Avaliable in Norway "yet"

[@ravevibetechno]

EU is becoming new north korea :D hahahaha