Romans

[@andy_in_taiwan]

The de-calvinized verses series is a brillant idea.

[@joescoggins5937]

Calvinism, when it is finished, is a heresy.

[@finnthewise]

@@thomasdaniel22 So your appeal is to the authority of a man made council? That's a RCC tactic is it not?

[@finnthewise]

@@thomasdaniel22 you disagree that you're appealing to a council rather than scripture or that appeals to councils of men setting doctrines is what the RCC does to prove their doctrine?

[@teeemm9456]

@@finnthewise And you're appealing to what exactly? Is it it called Jesusism or Calvinism? A theology that ignores context and falls apart under scrutiny because it's inherently flawed unless you presume it's true to interpret the bible? If Calvinism is true, then there is no real free will, and if there is no real free will, then there is no point in God creating earth and humanity, nor in sending Jesus down to suffer for God's own doing.

[@finnthewise]

@@teeemm9456 I wasn't appealing to anything. I was pointing out that someone, who's comments were removed or maybe I can't see them anymore, quoted a council/creed to defend a point. I wasn't replying to the OP.

[@teeemm9456]

@@finnthewise ah, I see, you're right, only your posts show

[@jesuschristsaves9067]

Faith comes by “hearing” the word of God. To a Calvinist, hearing must also be a work. I can’t think of anything more passive than hearing.

[@ipaporod]

:You must remember , to Johnny Calvin you are deaf unless the Holy Spirit regenerate you 1st and then your ears will be open!.The only problem with that is that poor Johnny forgot about Cornelius and Lydia in which both cases God heard their prayers and communicated with them without THEM been regenerated 1ST, KIND OF ODD FOR GOD TO HEAR THE PRAYERS OF 2 TOTALLY DEPRAVED DEAF SINNERS, don't you think?.

[@jesuschristsaves9067]

Ismael Rodriguez I agree.

[@ipaporod]

@@michelhaineault6654 :Sorry Calvinist, I don't believe in what Johnny Calvin wrote as interpretation on soteriology. I understand what clearly and easily is written in the Bible/KJV on soteriology without adding someone's PRIVATE interpretation. When it comes to the SIMPLICITY of the Gospel the Bible is very easy to understand (salvation is available TO WHOEVER and to ANYONE who comes to the Lord for mercy and forgiveness of sin, just as Cornelius did without even been saved and REGENERATED yet!!!!) without the help of so called GIANTS of the faith or any other man made system of interpretation!. In other words what ever Johnny Calvin, Ellen G. White, Joseph Smith, Charles T. Russell or the Catholic Church wrote in relation to their OWN PRIVATE INTERPRETATION of the Gospel of Jesus Christ/Paul is IRRELEVANT and UN-IMPORTANT, just pure heretical doctrines of demons and useless man made philosophical/agnostic JUNK!.

[@Mark-oo3om]

@@michelhaineault6654 2 Thessalonians is through sanctification in the Spirit and BELIEF of the truth. Calvinists conveniently look past this. Ephesians 1 is IN Christ. In Christ and through Christ is HOW we're picked. 1 Peter the chosen are the Jews that are dispersed. Same as James 1.

[@Mark-oo3om]

@@michelhaineault6654 chosen according to the promise, which is faith. Keep reading in Romans 9 to find the context. "What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, attained righteousness-even the righteousness that is by faith. But Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, did not attain to the law. Why that? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if by works. They stumbled over the stone that causes people to stumble ," Romans 9:30‭-‬32 You didn't happen to notice that Paul used the Patriarchs of the Jews in his Romans 9 examples did you? Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and also Moses. Coincidence?

[@ILoveOldTWC]

Dr. Flowers, last week, I came across a channel "The Gospel of Christ", and the post said quoting John MacArthur "Is God unfair in not choosing to save everyone? Fair would be to send everyone to hell. You don't want fair, you want mercy." That entire premise is wrong. Some of the comments are using these very verses you are using to refute it. I am so thankful for you Dr. Flowers.

[@purplejoeler]

he is half right. i think a better argument than "its not fair" would be "its not consistent"

[@cindygarcia1809]

Brilliantly done! It really saddens me that our Calvinist friends have distorted God's character with this false doctrine. I truly hope they humble themselves and open their eyes to this undeniable truth.

[@bill_y4762]

Best video ive ever heard refuting total depravity. Extremely well done sir 👍

[@advtourer5636]

What Atheist and Calvinist in common? My answer: They boast about their human knowledge and prideful enough not to accept that they do not have all the answers. Anyway its just my opinion based on experience. Comment down

[@juaneato]

And they are both determinists.

[@mrdandrea]

Beautiful and pithy: "It is the Calvinist's burden to prove that fallen mankind is born morally incapable of humbly responding in faith to God's inspired and powerful appeal to be reconciled from that fall." Sensible, practical, and true. Thankyou Leighton Flowers for being a strong defense for the free will God imparted to man. Calvinists and non-Calvinists alike will be found in heaven, but the Calvinists shouldn't be there out of ignorance. Many hit me with words I've never heard and try to ridicule me, even scare me that I haven't sought out enough knowledge. We know that salvation isn't academic.

[@TuxedoMagnum]

I've never had so much doubt about my own salvation as I have since encountering Calvinism. Many online have become hardened by "knowledge" to the point that they feel driven to bludgeon with words anyone who doesn't follow the points of TULIP. "If you don't believe X, how can you claim to be saved?" "If you were one of the elect, you would feel this way about Y." It is not knowledge or education that saves us. It is by the grace of God, through faith in Christ Jesus, faith in His death on the cross, His burial, and His resurrection from the dead. Thank you, Leighton Flowers. You and Kevin Thompson and Dr. Ken Wilson have reminded my wife and me that we aren't alone in our beliefs. It has lifted our spirits tremendously.

[@raymatthews4319]

@@TuxedoMagnum The Calvinists had me questioning my salvation as well. They make it sound as if God is in the automaton creating business. I have yet to find a verse of Scripture that says God has forechosen anyone to go to hell.

[@djohnson3093]

@@raymatthews4319 Nor is there a verse that says anyone was forechosen for salvation....

[@thomasthepromise8430]

And THAT, my friends, is what we call proper hermeneutics and exegesis. Great job...again, Dr. Flowers!

[@omnitheus5442]

Amen

[@Bill_G]

I disagree. Proper exegesis should not require bouncing around to different books and chapters

[@thomasthepromise8430]

@@Bill_G, yes, it does. My goodness, that you don't know this is concerning. If the theology we glean from one book (say Romans) doesn't blend harmoniously with the theology we glean from another, we are not doing good exegesis on at least one of the books. Likely we're not doing good exegesis...at all.

[@Bill_G]

@@thomasthepromise8430 I believe you are confusing the terms of theology and exegesis.

[@thomasthepromise8430]

@@Bill_G nope. Good exegesis produces sound theology. So if our exegesis is good, our theology will be as well. That you don't understand "exegeting" the whole of Scripture together is necessary to land on solid theological footing tells me you shouldn't be participating in these conversations.

[@johnjames3908]

The wonderful, Scriptural insights of this short study are far from the rambling overly long confusing answers given by some are a refreshing balm to our souls. Thank you again dear brother in Christ. This is a true walk through the Word of God, unhurried and filled with patience and love. God bless.

[@TroubadorToday]

Well stated and true! Nothing worse than Calvinist’s who live in a world of “proof-text”-only without actually using the “whole of Scripture”! Pray that they wake from their believing distortions of Scriptures!

[@gastonjaureguix]

Dr Flowers do you have the explanation of Esaú and Jacob?

[@christinanewman7109]

According to original hebrew, God did not "hate" Esau, He simply preferred Jacob. It didn't mean He didn't love or want Esau - He simply wanted Jacob to be the one to whom His promise to Abraham would flow through. God still blessed Esau greatly, as he is the father of many in the Middle East. God had a different plan for Esau, that is all.

[@davidochieng2975]

The fact is God sees the future ,and he hated Esau for but for his future plan and purpose .Same to Pharaoh of Egypt and Judas Iscariot and many others.

[@bidhan0001]

god choosing here is about a nations superiority, nothing mentioned about salvation or hell or heaven given to Esau without any cause.. Esau sold his birth rights on his own will.

[@motherbear5091]

God being outside of time, saw the future and what Esau was going to do. If you read the Old Testament, birthright of the firstborn is very important. With God’s plan of sending HIS son through the bloodline of the firstborn… And Esau giving up his birthright for a bowl of soup. That’s why God hated Esau and loved Jacob.

[@brb1050]

My good friend has fallen under the false teaching of calvinism (but refuses to call it calvinism). We use to be able to discuss differing viewpoints on theology. Now he constantly claims the biggest mission field is in the church, saying that anyone who disagrees with his doctrine of calvinism is a “false convert”. I only answer his tulip trap questions with scriptures. He hates that. I have asked him “how do we know we are saved?” The answer is in the book of 1 John. He has never answered this.

[@SATexan]

Thank you for this video! Very helpful

Excellent video! Now we can only hope that Calvinists will use their free will to accept this truth.

[@furg0998]

It occured to me that the best that God gives us in this regard is 'hope'. Is prayer off limits for having people accept the truth lest God act in a way that is ultimately immoral. That is: Could you pray for Calvinists to accept this truth? And if God did respond what might he be able to do? Can he in instances give people the truth? or remove impediments to someone knowing the truth, perhaps prejudice, or bias, or any block in mental faculties? Or is God limited to only provoking those who believe to tell the truth to a person again and again, in hope that by repeated presentations or further explanation the truth may be accepted?

[@zakasha55]

So if God does everything and there is no freewill, then this means that God is the author of sin, evil and confusion. Why then pray... Palms face... Thank you for your Ministry, Dr. Flowers. God Bless.

[@raymatthews4319]

@@randyletourneau3430 Do you worship "brilliant men" or God?

[@gwendolynwehage6336]

If a Calvinist goes into all the world to preach the gospel as God commanded, and they preach to someone who has been predestined to go to hell, he is then lying to that person! Calvinists do not know who is predestined to be born again and who is not when they preach to strangers on the street. Would God call us to lie to anyone? NO!!!!! When Christ told us to go into all the world and preach the gospel He meant to "go into all the world and preach to all the people." God never lied when He said that He wished that all would be saved. He never lied when He said He died for all mankind. Romans 5:18 "Therefore, just as one trespass brought condemnation for all men, so also one act of righteousness brought justification and life for all men." 1 Timothy 2:3-5 "…3 This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,…"

[@allentomas3417]

if you are coherent and look with alacrity of mind you shall find the blatant contradiction in your stated comment.

[@KISStheSON...]

@@allentomas3417 Did God make a bunch of dumb asses in his own image? So much so that we can't even PUT the faith that we were measured, IN HIM? Do you not appreciate the masterpieces that he made called the human body? First, it has EARS...now add a mind a brain and conscience. Can you LEARN what 2 + 2 equals by hearing a teacher? If so, we can be taught the way the truth and the life. Which is exactly what a bishop is to do. He is to TEACH what he had first been taught and PUT his trust in inorder to CONVINCE those who oppose THEMSELVES. Psalms 2:12 “Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”

[@titusministries]

Great video. It’s rather astonishing that the calvinists cling to various out-of-contexts verses to prop up their unbiblical view. It’s much easier to just accept the clear teaching of scripture.

[@oracleoftroy]

Yeah, it is rather telling how often Calvinists have to 'Calvinize' a passage of scripture compared to the number of times passages have to be 'deCalvinized'.

[@pattytoscano9569]

Glad I found you!

[@KISStheSON...]

"If one has the gospel they are not on their own"....BINGO! God first GIVES us all breathe and life and all the things we will need to believe on him including a measure of faith, we are then held responsible to humble ourselves (whom he made in his image) to his words in order to RECIEVE that which he has freely given. Psalms 2:12 “Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.” Reconciliation is found in a KISS!

[@robertrodrigues7319]

You are 100% Correct! The revelation of God via the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit makes mankind without excuse. Man is not alone and not dead like a corpse>

[@KadesVideoList]

So frustrating that Leighton says all this correctly about faith not meritting anything, but then he doesn't apply it to water immersion. He's right there!

[@minmayhew]

I have a question about Jude 4 where it says the ones who crept in unnoticed were appointed from long ago for the purpose of condemnation. How can this be De-Calvinized?

[@davidtrue4255]

Jude 1: 4. "For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord." 1 John 4: 1. "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3. but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. 4. You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5. They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood." All who oppose Christ are people that are governed by antichrist spirits, and do not heed the Holy Spirit. The condemnation written about long ago is the condemnation of eternal death for all who oppose God. Many people, who are false prophets, and that adhere to the teachings of false spirits, are in the world today trying to turn others away from God. The statement of "certain individuals" is a statement regarding false prophets, not a statement about people God simply chose to condemn due to His predetermination.

[@davidochieng2975]

@@davidtrue4255 God allowed Satan to Institute his kingdom on earth through his followers but for a short period of time best known by God himself. The beast (Antichrist)and his followers will have their names not written in the Lamb's book of Life,from the beginning to the end(Revelation17:7-8,17; 13:5-10;Luke 4:5-8)

[@jcthomas3408]

The condemnation is for those who sneak in and deny Jesus. He does not cause who will do so, but knows some will do so. It is the same as the illustration of a plane headed for heaven. The destination is for sure. But who gets on the plane is up to the individual. Likewise, the destination of the "plane" headed to condemnation is sure, and those who choose to deny Jesus will be on it.

[@bigdogboos1]

Romans 3 reference in the old testament was the state of that people ... they were all bad, none good. Meaning it got to a point where there were none good left. This isn't a theological text, it's a statement of the state of a people and how bad it got. For a calvinist to be consistent, they would have no issue believing actual logic of their beliefs : "You were created with sin only ability, God ordained all the sin you do, God then judges you for it ... but wait, if you believe you can be saved, but only if God gives you the power to believe and does it for you, and if you don't believe it's because God didn't give you that grace but He will judge you more for not believing the thing you literally cannot believe without Him doing it for you." It's an incoherent doctrine.

[@NC_27]

I'm struggling with this particular verse: So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. Romans 9:18 Kindly help me understand.

[@freegraceau]

He has Mercy on gentiles who formerly were not of the elect (the Israelites), secondly he has mercy on those Jews who were living by faith already, the father drew them to Jesus (during his earthly ministry). Conversely, he hardened the already hardened hearts of those Jews who already had hardened their hearts in dead religiosity. This was to achieve his earthly mission, which was to be rejected and crucified by the Jews.

[@NC_27]

@@freegraceau Thanks 🙏. I get it now.

[@davidhorvat700]

The scripture you quoted is first found in exodus , with additional scriputes and doctrine more fully explained in Romans 9:18. “And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.” Exodus 33:19 KJV It applies to fallen angels, Adam, man, people groups , and individuals as God sees fit and as God works out His salvation plan. As you have read it is very clear and understandable if one is saved. The reason you have trouble with it , is because you see that the way this site erroneously teaches it. Leighton has to twist the scripture to make it fit his doctrine of Man’s choice . The only way that you will find no contradictions in the scriptures is if you are able to properly divide the word between flesh and spiritual meanings . Leighton teaches that man can understand on his own with a little help from God while the Bible teaches just the opposite. Believing God only shows saving mercy to his chosen blows his entire teaching up. Salvation is all from God “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” 1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV Ligoner ministries and RC Sproul is running a radio show on the doctrines of grace or TULIP. Check it out 5 broadcasts of 30 minutes each is worth listening to. Praise God you are starting to see the truth by seeing through false teachings .

[@davidhorvat700]

The scripture goes back to exodus 33 “And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.” Exodus 33:19 KJV It applies to fallen angels, Adam, man, people groups , and individuals as God sees fit and as God works out His salvation plan. Leighton does not have a ministry if salvation is only of the Lord, he teaches man can make a good choice in believing the word . This is impossible “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” 1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV It is God showing mercy to whom he chooses . This brings all the scriptures into harmony from the doctrines of Grace understanding of the scriptures. Man will always make the wrong choice left to himself

[@heatherwoods5703]

Look for videos where Dr. Flowers handle those. Also look for Mike Winger 's videos going through Romans 9 and Calvinism. They make it very clear in the full context and the whole counsel of God and not just a few verses pulled out as proof texts.

[@RTreturns]

I love the picture of Jesus putting on a white robe on a believer.

[@johndoe-ln4oi]

"Total Depravity" denies God's sovereignty. It says that God messed up in creating man and made man so sub-par that man is incapable of any good, rather than being able to choose good from evil.

[@oracleoftroy]

What if God created man very good and man did that to himself?

[@jesuschristsaves9067]

God called Abram his Friend not his slave.

[@branch9422]

Or, "also slave."

[@KISStheSON...]

@@branch9422 Remember "slaves" fought to remain with their masters in the OT.

[@MyRoBeRtBaKeR]

No one is righteous aside from faith. We are only righteous because of the faith of Jesus Christ and only by believing God are we made righteous, it is imputed to Him for righteousness. God must draw you in and yout are in your will know the truth and the truth shall at you free of your bondage to sin and death!

[@mitchielou9622]

Scripture interprets scripture! Thank you, Leighton for this video!

[@robertvalentine4725]

Bottom line it's God's righteousness that makes us whole..still God and his grace thru Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit that enables us..

[@darbyochill]

Except that’s not Biblical. By grace we are saved through faith in Christ. You can’t just exclude the word faith. Yes we are made whole by Him but we have a responsibility to Him which is why we are condemned in the first place. First we owe Him a death for that is the wages of sin but thankfully we have the new covenant which is that through faith in Him righteousness can be accounted to us. Simple. Don’t confuse it.

[@jamesjohnson8918]

In matthew 7:13 both "enters" are active arguments about calvinism over

[@ericbrackenridge7686]

Beautifully done sir! Thanks for sharing

[@ArgothaWizardWars]

Another way to look at it is that Abraham was CREDITED righteousness. So yes, no one IS righteous, but those that believe are considered/credited/counted as righteous.

[@shiningbright3925]

Well explain Dr. Leighton Flower

[@aaronfisher3003]

Thanks Leighton!

[@78sviolin]

I think that when Calvinists speak of total depravity, they disregard the impact of the Gospel on a lost person. It is called the power of God for salvation for a reason. It is with this power, I believe, God draws people to Himself and by this power anyone who believes can come to Christ (John 6:44)

[@78sviolin]

@@dylanwagoner9768 Some accepted it, some rejected it. The Gospel call is not irresistible--faith is still required. It is powerful nonetheless because it's the Word of God. This Word will judge the unbeliever on the last day. Through hearing this Word comes faith. And through faith one gets access to God's salvific grace. That's what I read in the Bible. On the other hand, Calvinists following Augustine say that human beings cannot by their nature respond to the Gospel call--they need to be regenerated first. Thus, the Gospel doesn't have the power to save, it's just an instruction for a regenerate person on what to do to comply with God's standards. (Forgive my English--it's not my native language)

[@78sviolin]

@@dylanwagoner9768 Maybe you are right about the vast majority. I don't know; it's more of a speculation. Jesus sowed the seeds. On and after the day of Pentecost people were being saved by the thousands. I'm sure Jesus' ministry had much to do with that. If you are right, then I think we need to presume that Jesus simply didn't want the vast majority of Jews to be saved. However, he said that he did want to gather Jews as a hen gathers her brood, but these were the Jews who were not willing (Matt. 23:37). I don't think this sounds quite sovereign from the Calvinists' standpoint. It tells me that Jesus provided the means of salvation to the Jews and they should have responded in faith but many of them didn't. And now they don't have anyone to blame but themselves.

[@78sviolin]

@@dylanwagoner9768 I think I can see your point. I'm not here for a debate but to understand the subject better. I'm grateful to you for pointing out some things that make me think deeper. I wholly agree that we are totally dependent on God with respect to salvation (and with all other respects) and that God prepares hearts to receive the Gospel. I think the question concerns the means God employs to save people and more generally His character and His attitude toward the lost. Yes, it would be great if you could list a few passages that speak about the fact that you need to be quickened first to be able to respond to the Gospel. In case with the Jews, God gave me the Scripture: the law and the prophets. The law was a schoolmaster to bring them to Christ, and Jesus Himself expected that the Jews would study the Scriptures and find Him there. Finally, God sent John the Baptist specifically to make a people prepared for the Lord. So, Gad has done a lot of work in order for the Jews to accept Christ, to make the soil good, and many still resisted. Scripture in a few passages attributes spiritual barrenness not to the inherent inability to respond but to outside opposition: the devil (Mar. 4:15; 2Cor. 4:3-4) or the world (Mar. 4:19; 2Tim. 4:10). Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. He draws every man to Himself. So, maybe, He's already done everything for people to be able to respond to the Gospel?! Sorry, I don't want to take too much of your time. That's a complicated subject.

[@78sviolin]

@@dylanwagoner9768 The same John clearly says in John 1:12-13 that Jesus gave the authority to become sons of God to those who received Him and believed in His name, not vice versa. I think that's the key to interpret 1 John 5:1. 1 John 5:1, in my opinion, doesn't necessarily talk about some sequence. In context, John says how you distinguish between people that are born of God and of the devil. Those who are born of God believe and overcome the world with its temptations, they practice righteousness, they do not go on sinning, they love their brothers, etc. In general, he writes about what it means to be a child of God.

[@78sviolin]

@@dylanwagoner9768 ok, thank you for your patience. God bless you too

[@michelpellerin101]

These short films is an excellent idea!

[@solochristo491]

Paul applies this passage (Romans 3:10-18), which he quotes from Psalm 14 and 53, to the Jews and Gentiles. Romans 9 flows into Romans 10 as a continuous thought. Paul condemns both under sin. This is not a passage that applies on a personal, individual level; at least, that's not the point Paul is making.

[@aquinasrost]

I would suggest that the fall does not render people unable to repent. God's decree determines that inability before man ever existed, so the fall is merely an incidental action.

[@DM-us9zd]

If a person has believed on God's son and has the Holy spirit living inside them then how is it possible for them to teach a man made doctrine such as calvanism for the spirit guides us into all truth so how can these men like John macarthur and RC sproll teach and utter such doctrines that are against my God and saviour. They must have no fear of God or else they would not teach such things.

[@1tmagda]

Rom 2:4 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

[@omnitheus5442]

This is a verse I love to use but you have a typo: as it is 2:14. 2:12-16 is a passage Calvinists cannot answer and oft quickly try to work in some other passage they see as a proof text for Total Depravity or Unconditional Election as a response. The problem with Calvinism is that it fails to deal with s many passages in question. 1 Timothy 2:1-6 is anther one. A systematic MUST be responsible and truthful to the entire biblical corpus. BUT Calvinism flips the discipline of hermeneutics to Systematics - Biblical Theology - Exegesis. The proper science is actually the other way around. Championing the work of others rather than working it for themselves...

[@robertcain3426]

At 9.22 to 9.33 you seem to ask the same question that Paul poses in Romans 9:19-21, 'You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who has ever resisted his will?” But who indeed are you-a mere human being-to talk back to God? Does what is molded say to the molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right to make from the same lump of clay one vessel for special use and another for ordinary use?'

[@0hSayCanYouSee]

Needed education that I didn’t have till I ran across your video posts and other similar ones recently. Thank you Leighton. The music backup doesn’t add much. The same music is looped over and over again and as it gets more and more boring, in my opinion, it detracts somewhat from your valuable content.

[@TheEnergydrinklover]

Romans 9 de-calvinized please, have been waiting for an Exegesis for ages now.

[@Loves2HugItOut]

he has an entire video on romans 9!

[@heatherwoods5703]

Mike Winger also does an excellent treatment of it.

[@garretmount8409]

John MacArthur is one of the most arrogant, prideful & boastful of them all but most calvinists come across this way. They preach/teach a false dangerous doctrine ⚠️

[@GnaReffotsirk]

To credit something because of something tells the truth. By trusting in Jesus, this trusting is credited as righteousness, means we are free to trust or not to trust. The righteous shall live by faith, or will live trusting God/Jesus. Trust itself is an act of freewill. It's not the trusting that compels God to call someone righteous, as if God is under the power of the free action of humans. Instead, God promised first, that those who believe will be saved, and has passed from death to life. We are therefore alive because of God's promise. He defines salvation first by giving His own Son, even while we are yet sinners, and that whoever puts their trust in Him will have life, and not perish. This doesn't negate free will, it actually makes it apparent that we do have free will to choose to trust or not.

[@cabeto821005]

Will you keep your free will in heaven?

[@GnaReffotsirk]

@@cabeto821005 Do you mean the new heavens and new earth? Yes. Read revelations 21-22. In fact, we will have a greater degree of freedom at that time. For one, the flesh will no longer be there to bother us; we will "reign"; we will not depend on things like the sun, or nature, etc. Freewill is not only about choosing between good and evil. If you read the letters in the new testament, we get the idea that freedom and the will to choose is not only about good and evil, but actually acting freely in freedom. This freedom is "in Christ" or the principles of life that is in Christ. We can simplify it as "the good things" or if living in the flesh is 'evil' then living in the spirit is 'good'. Therefore, we understand that there is more to freewill than we previously thought, especially now that we are no longer under bondage, or limited, or constrained by sin and the fear of death.

[@LawofChristMinistries]

Funny how Paul was not talking about any type of doctrine smh

[@YoungEarthCreation]

Awesome!

[@mikeofcontex]

Where is Calvin in the scripture?

[@royaltyillia1356]

Nowhere. He was a reformer that based his views off St. Augustine.

[@fnjesusfreak]

That actually sounds more like the Arminian version of total depravity than the Calvinist version.

[@abc-nk1jk]

Thank you

[@granthollandvideos]

Wonderful prof, thanks again . It has been hitting me more recently the weight of declaring salvation ( regeneration) apart from faith, or "non faith regeneration." . Faith is the only set law that witholds boasting,. And I do not believe regeneration apart from faith, as a gospel, has been properly reasoned out by these chaps.

[@granthollandvideos]

@@dylanwagoner9768 Hi Dylan, what a asubject my friend, but I'm not too sure I follow your point here, you seem to have two opposing ideas. ""Preaching that regeneration causes faith is not the same as preaching the gospel"". I fully agree, seeing as the gospel from the beginning is righteousness on all who believe, Justification by faith, etc. Regeneration of any kind without faith is the opposite of the gospel, it is illegal by God, and not pleasing to him, and would be boast-worthy, seeing as it is outsider of faith. . Yes. But then you say ""You can believe and know that God must create life before a sinner comes to Christ, but that isn’t necessarily what you preach to the lost when you preach the gospel."" This now is the opposite, and agrees with the gnostic type eastern stuff, of awakenings of special natures. No, The gospel itself is the light and life of salvation, all the Spirit does to the sinner is convict then of sin righteousness and judgment, but there is no life from God of any sort before faith, that is another gospel.

[@granthollandvideos]

@@dylanwagoner9768 My apologies for the language. There was no nefariousness or anything toward you my friend personally. I truly did not mean it in an inflammatory way. It is my personal experience of how I relate to this, (IE testimony of the first person). I hope we can continue to discuss this. Dylan It seems the eastern Persian gnostic religions of Menes and Augustine, go toward the monkey mind theory. IE the absolute nothingness of doing anything is real religions, or true grace. IE, not to move a muscle until the force moves on you, as an ELECT. This to them is true spirituality,, as they look down on those who use their natural or metaphysical tools. But this is very clever lie, and leads to nothing but works and boasting. It is the same here. God has given to man a means in himself, as a gift in his makeup, that will show him it is not a work but a gift, this is called "faith". . We all have it, so that we may know our weakness,, and lean on God. The removal of FAITH, that shows grace, and the introduction of passive moving upon of the force. Simply is an esoteric, nothingness, monkey mind path.. .Remember the changing of natures, the introduction of inability, an elect who alone can believe, were most definitely introduced by a Persian Gnostic, then studied by Calvin's father Augustine.

[@granthollandvideos]

@@dylanwagoner9768 cool, . I don't think John 6.44 mentions inability. Just that man in unable to come of his own initiative. God must make the first move.. But here are some of his moves or drawings. Nature, conscience, instinct, faith covenant through Abraham, the Bible, the law, Jesus, the Apostles . His drawings to sinners are endless, and not one above our ability. . Forgive me I still struggle to see jn 6.44 the way the Calvanist does. " No one can turn on the TV . Unless Dylan gives them the remote" why would that be restrictive by number or ability, seeing as Jesus is the light of all men, and each has eternity in their hearts. Remember your intents and heart itself is Godly as a sinner or God made, an evil heart is the intentional evil moral choice sin of what you do with that heart. There is no change of the human nature, simply a sinning against it.....

[@granthollandvideos]

@@dylanwagoner9768 My belief on origional sin may be different from Leightons. There is no mention in the bible of any such thing as a "sin nature. " not one. Linguistically, the word does not exist. SIN in scripture is my moral choice disobedience, NATURE is creation, or my God made flesh and metaphysical makeup, or Eph 2, habitual sin wilfully comitted to create habit. . Psalm 51. David is the object and his mother the subject. His mother CONCIEVED him in sin. Romans 5 separates for you physical death inherited, and sin or moral choice comming into the world. Romans 5, tries to correct the thinking that sin is physical, and so my dear friend, yes here we do depart religions, Jesus came in flesh, with a human nature, was spotless, not because he did not incarnate, but beczse he was morally perfect. The Calvanist cannot say Jesus had the same nature as me and you , he must add or take away nature, Your religion disllows that. You cannot blame sin on Adam or a created nature, or on a occult decree from God, the Christian must say " all have sinned" , not " i am a sinner in Adam by reincarnation, or of blood or sperm, or any such nonsense" . The gate is full responsebility formthe right thing, or their czn be no gospel

[@granthollandvideos]

Sorry Dylan i dont understand your concern on Jn 6,44. Remember i dont believe in total inability. But yes that we would be unable to come unless God came first., i see this as logical. At least 4 times in John 6 , we see God providing bread for the whole world. He does not limit his drawing , never mind to a select few, just that Jesus must die before the gospel goes to the world. Those who come now ( while he is down) because they can, are given to Jesus and will be raised. There is no illoical statement here, you cant get married unless proposed to. Remember too that i do not change draw to convert, because only those who come are raised. We must not change CAN to will most assuredly come, this is illigal on all sides by you

[@markdeduke606]

I don’t disagree , yes all we need to 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture is of private interpretation. 21 For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but men spake from God, being moved by the Holy Spirit.

[@bigdogboos1]

this quote from the old testament was speaking about a specific people at a specific time ... they "became" all together worthless and everyone turned away from God. It's speaking about God's people ... and their turning away from Him. So when Paul said this he was speaking of the Jews of the day. Calvinism is so pathetic

[@mcgragor1]

Verse 1 of Psalm 14 seems to stand alone as to those who do not believe there is a God, while verse's 2-3 are on all men in general. We must also realize Paul by the Holy Spirit took liberty with many OT scriptures and brought further light upon them, so ultimately the context of Romans 3:10-12 is more important than what Paul quoted, although it seems that both Psalm 14:2-3 and Romans 3:10-12 are essentially the same. 2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. 3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

[@omnitheus5442]

That passage quoted from Ps 14 should keep reading on to verse 5 - "...For God is with the righteous generation." The question is has there ever been righteous generations to which I would say yes. See 1 and 2 Chronicles. There are several listed in there...

[@mcgragor1]

@Believe 316 The New T is the Old T revealed, so Paul's inspired interpretation is that no Jew or Gentile seeks after God. Paul does take liberty, consider his quote in Romans 9:25-26 from Hosea to show the Gentiles are now included. Read verse 9 of Romans 3, which is setting up his quote from Psalm 14:2-3. Therefore, he is talking about ALL men, not just the unbelieving peoples outside of Israel. What you do with that is of course up to you, but a proper exegesis is that no man ever is good or naturally seeks after God. When we rightly divide the truth, we know that any righteous man or man seeking after God, has been drawn by God, which agrees with Romans 8:28-30 and Romans 9. Otherwise Paul is saying no Jew or Greek seeks God, but then on the other hand would say some men do seek God. I always take the position that we don't know how God's Providence and man's responsibility work. When we try to lean too far one way or the other, it always just creates more apparent or true contradiction.

[@Mark-oo3om]

Man can't save themselves by themselves, we all know that. That's why God sent His Son to be the savior of the world. Jesus is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE. He's our SAVIOR, He's our WAY, He's our TRUTH. John 1:12 LEB "But as many as received him-to those who believe in his name-he gave to them authority to become children of God, who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a husband, but of God." So, authority to become children of God before they believed? Nope Not by works or anything we can DO, but by faith alone. That's all. Paul's point is by faith not works, especially you, Israel. All one has to do is read the surrounding verses and chapters of Romans 3 to know what the point of this section is about.

[@omnitheus5442]

@@mcgragor1 in light of your view how do you interpret Romans 2:12-16 "For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; *for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus."* (emphasis added) So only 30 odd verses before Romans 3:10-18. My question to you is how can you proclaim Total Depravity when Paul clearly states that Gentiles can do right and be justified without knowledge the law by following their conscience? These actions defend them at judgment according to Paul. Please enlighten us all friend.

[@mcgragor1]

@Believe 316 The Hosea text is dealing with Israel. Paul expounds on this as being the gentiles as well. Its a well known mystery and as far as I know, generally not disputed. You said in your 1st response-"As a whole, Psalm 14 is a condemnation of the people that, while also not believing in the God of Israel, were oppressing his people." That is not what you are saying in your response now. Paul is saying Jew and Gentile and you seemingly agree now, but your response above is making a separation from those who don't know God and the believing Israel. This seems inconsistent ... Passages saying we should seek God do not contradict, when we understand and rightly divide. Men are accountable, responsible, and are told to repent. Calvinist preachers preach this stronger than many who aren't. When Paul says both Jew and Greek are under sin, he could have stopped there. Or, he could have used the fall of Adam, which he does do later in Romans. Paul though, carrying on the theme from Romans 1-2, is emphasizing the extent of sin by quoting the relevant sections of Psalm 14. Again, God's Providence and man's responsibility are a mystery in how they work to us. When we try to make it work too far one way or the other, is when we run into all kinds of misinterpretation.

[@chaosinorder9685]

When you read Psalms 14:1-5 you get the context for Romans 3:9-12. He says the UNBELIEVERS do not seek God. Why? Because they don’t put their trust in God. Does that mean that they can’t respond willingly? Absolutely not that’s a non-sequitur. Calvinists should stop quoting this passage cause it doesn’t say what they think it does

[@sherrytodd1952]

God gives faith.

[@mutulica10]

No, God gave us the GIFT of Faith which is Jesus Christ

[@dustinpaulson1123]

Chop. Chop. Chop. TIMBERRRRRRRRR!

[@JonathanGrandt]

Taking out the T and everything collapses.

[@dustinpaulson1123]

The presuppositions and false doctrines that make up TULIP are crashing down. And I love it!

[@GTX1123]

God's Grace is amazing because it is a manifestation of His favor which empowers us to choose what we otherwise wouldn't due to our sinful nature. But IT IS STILL OUR CHOICE whether or not to believe. God will not violate our will and as such He doesn't predetermine who will be saved and who will not. This is where Calvinism errs; i.e. it assumes that because God knows who will and won't be saved, He is then choosing who will and who won't be saved. Not so...

[@chrisamandadeysel5117]

So much for total depravity after the fall of Adam:Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. Gen 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. Gen 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: Gen 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

[@KISStheSON...]

J.M. "Until God (regenerates) gives spiritual life we have neither the ability nor the inclination to cooperate with him". Well, we ALL agree with that! The GOOD NEWS is that God HAS given the whole world spiritual life and that life is FOUND if you will HEAR his spiritual WORDS that he sent into the world. His words have the power to regenerate even the hardest of hearts, softening them to a pile of mush! If only John MacArthur WOULD allow God to do ALL the talking so he won't be found guilty of MAKING the gospel of the cross of none effect to the hearers. Jeremiah 23 "Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces? Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbour. Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith...and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD. John 6:63 “It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, THEY are spirit, and THEY are life.” Ephesians 4:29 “Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.” "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:6-9, KJV You have been warned!

[@livingwater7580]

EXCELLENT

[@princeamoakwa4057]

1:50 🔥 There is the false teaching. Regeneration plainly comes after faith in the Bible. So it is wrong to say regeneration comes before faith. It is not the life that gives faith but it is the faith that gives life. 4:49 🔥 There it is. Context is supremely important. Righteousness spoken of here is either by the Law or Faith. We fail in the former but God considers us righteous through the faith. The proof is at 6:15 onwards. 6:58 🔥 Faith is not works at all. It is simply acceptance of a gift. It is a natural human ability God beseeches is by the Gospel to exercise. 11:54 🔥 What is faith if it has no object to hold on to? The faith of the believer is in the dealing away with sin in the cross. Those are the horns of the altar that the hands of faith grab in the pursuit of mercy from God. We don’t believe in the sufficiency our works of righteousness in restoring our relationship with God. We believe in God’s work on the cross to simultaneously satisfy justice and pardon us and this is what pleases God to save individuals.

[@alfredhitchcock45]

It only means the concept of Original Sin: fallen nature in a fallen world. "Works" means Jewish Laws not good works.

[@tim9520]

No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. John 6:44. (Without God's intervention, nobody comes to Christ)

[@enonknives5449]

Why do Calvinists continue to take a single verse out of context and ignore the rest of the Bible? Jesus already explained what John 6:44 meant in John 5 when the Jews claimed that Jesus' testimony didn't count because it was the testimony of one man. Jesus explained that if they had believed the Father, they would have believed Jesus, because the Scripture spoke of Jesus. Only someone who knew and trusted and believed the Father -- believed His word -- would be drawn to Jesus who was fulfilling that Scripture. No one else could know that the works of Jesus demonstrated that He was Messiah. Jesus explains this AGAIN in the VERY NEXT VERSE, ""It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me." (John 6:45) The drawing is by believing the Father. If the "drawing" in John 6:44 was irresistible and always effective for salvation, as Calvinists claim, then they admit that they believe that Jesus is a liar. In John 12:32 Jesus said that if was lifted up (crucified) that He would draw ALL men to Himself -- Jews and Gentiles. If this drawing is irresistible and always effective, then Calvinist have few options: a) All men are saved because Jesus' drawing is always effective. or, b) Jesus lied, or, c) Calvin was wrong. They can't claim (a) because they know that not everyone is saved. They can't openly claim (b) without exposing their Satanism. They refuse to accept (c) because they trust the word of Calvin more than they trust the word of God. That leaves a fourth option: d) Scripture is corrupted and unreliable. John 12:32 must have been added or changed by unscrupulous editors. But Calvinists still have a problem. If John 12:32 is unreliable, then John 6:44 could be unreliable. They can't claim (d), so all they are left with is a final option: e) Throw up their hands and declare, "Mystery!" In other words, verse 12:32 only SEEMS to claim that Jesus would draw all men to Himself. In reality, it means the OPPOSITE. The only ones who can understand the "mystery" are the "elect" who have "secret knowledge" that must be passed down from one acolyte to another, because the truth isn't found in Scripture. Of course we all know that "secret knowledge" refers to the occult -- which defines Calvinism perfectly. Calvinists reject 2 Peter 3:9, that God does not will that any should perish. Calvinists reject Acts 17:30-31, that God commands "all men everywhere" to repent based on the resurrection of Jesus. In other words, Jesus draws people who don't even know the prophecies He fulfilled (Gentiles), but still draws those Jews who believe the Father. All that is necessary for salvation is to believe that gospel: the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. Once a person believes, God does ALL the work of salvation. And the truth is that Calvinists desperately WANT the gospel to be an exclusive gift because it makes them feel special. The more people cast into hell, the better Calvinists like it. Unlike God, they DON'T want all men to repent. They would rather call God a liar than admit that Calvin was wrong. Calvinist desperately WANT to believe that God desired sin, suffering, death, and condemnation even before the foundation of the world. Their view of God is that He desired evil so much that He created men incapable of anything else -- just so that He would have enough people to cast into hell to satisfy His desire. They reject God's own claim that He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. Why believe God when they can believe Calvin INSTEAD? In reality, Calvinists only claim to worship God BECAUSE they think He is an evil liar. They don't actually worship God; they worship Satan and call the devil "God." But you are correct in one thing you said: "Without God's intervention, nobody comes to Christ." God ALWAYS initiates salvation because He offers the INVITATION. We are told to take this invitation to all nations. Not all respond. Faith comes by hearing; hearing doesn't come by faith.

[@justinaharms7374]

But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself. John 12:32 For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. Romans 11:32

[@enonknives5449]

@@randyletourneau3430 -- Of course Leighton is covering many verses. That's because Calvinists take MANY passages - often single verses - out of context. You ignored the fact that I was responding to a Calvinist whose entire argument was to quote a single verse out of context. I do understand that Calvinists use many verses to support their demonic theology -- and every verse taken out of context. There is ABSOLUTELY NO Biblical support for Calvinism.

[@Soteriology101]

Christ’s coming was an intervention as is the sending of the gospel. We just believe the gospel is sufficient to enable a faith response. See Jn 20:31

[@davidochieng2975]

@@enonknives5449 When Jesus came he knew who would betray and he went ahead to choose him to be among the twelve disciples. Why Judas was ordained before the foundation of the world that he would be the one to accomplish this God's plan for salvation. Before God brought Israelites to Egypt, he had earlier told Abraham about his future plan for their deliverance, that he would take them to Egypt to dwell in for 400yrs but they would be ill-treated/oppressed by Egyptians under the leadership of Pharaoh until 400yrs would be over. There After he would deliver them and take them to the promised land(Genesis 15:13-16) It came to pass as exactly as God had spoken ,he raised up Joseph and caused him to be sold to Egypians and to start a family in Egypt.(Gen.37:28,36) There after he raised up Pharaoh to and hardened his heart to mistreat Israelites until that time came. After 400yrs was over and Israelites oppressed enough God came for their deliverance.(Exodus3:6-10) Therefore God raised up Egypians for destruction and raised up Israelites for his glory.(Exodus 4:21;9:16;14:10,13-14,17)

[@timothyrogers1964]

fortunately God seeks for us. Problem solved.

[@TomSnyder-y7u]

Faith is not a work.

[@Bill_G]

What I am confused about then, is why did Jesus bother healing the blind in his ministry? They really should have figured out how to regain their own sight

[@jaygee2187]

Bill G he healed the blind because they wanted to be healed. They came to Him.

[@davidochieng2975]

@@jaygee2187 God must first initiate that.He gives faith to believe in him.

[@lillyrose1711]

I've heard what JMAC that it's not the blood of Jesus we are saved it was his death .. the blood was just fluid . Can you please look into this . That is so deceitful. I pray to God for Holy Ghost conviction for his followers the truth that we are washed in the blood in the soul cleansing blood of the Lamb . Amen

[@jamesmeyer9574]

lillyrose1711 he believes that Jesus had to shed blood, but that there is nothing magical in His physical blood is what He’s meaning. I do believe JMAC misspoke when he was talking about the blood though.

[@lillyrose1711]

@@jamesmeyer9574 . Wow .. it is in the blood that we are saved .. power in the blood . Without the blood there is no remission of sin . What is your interpretation then

[@lillyrose1711]

@@allentomas3417 are you save.

[@jamesmeyer9574]

lillyrose1711 correct, without the blood there is no remission of sin. Scripture says the life is in the blood (Lev. 17:11). There’s nothing magical though about Jesus’ blood. If you were to go the cross of Jesus and observe His blood. It would’ve just been simple human blood. But, he did have to shed it to be saved. But if Jesus’ shed His blood, but He didn’t die, we wouldn’t be able to be saved. A bloody, sacrificial death was required. We can’t separate His blood from his death. Rather we should see blood as a description of the death He had to die. A bloody death.

[@lillyrose1711]

@@jamesmeyer9574 do you hear what you just said .. let me spell it out for you . For the life of the flesh is in the blood : and I have given it to you upon the alter to make an atonement for your souls : for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for your soul. That's the scripture you quoted ...

[@cabeto821005]

I knew I had heard something like this before. "Now they (adults) are disposed unto the said justice, when, excited and assisted by divine grace, conceiving faith by hearing, they are freely moved towards God, believing those things to be true which God has revealed and promised,-and this especially, that God justifies the impious by His grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus; and when, understanding themselves to be sinners, they, by turning themselves, from the fear of divine justice whereby they are profitably agitated, to consider the mercy of God, are raised unto hope, confiding that God will be propitious to them for Christ's sake; and they begin to love Him as the fountain of all justice; and are therefore moved against sins by a certain hatred and detestation, to wit, by that penitence which must be performed before baptism: lastly, when they purpose to receive baptism, to begin a new life, and to keep the commandments of God" Chapter 6 of The Council of Trent

[@omarsimpson8414]

What's this confess business??? Who ever said anything about calvinist saying people are unable to confess???

[@Soteriology101]

Omar Simpson I’m speaking of the biblical confession of sin in faith. That isn’t morally possible for the unregenerate man on Calvinism.

[@omarsimpson8414]

@@Soteriology101 if you really want to represent the Calvinist view of scriptures more accurately please use the word repent instead of Confess

[@davidtrue4255]

@@omarsimpson8414 Why not believe, or have faith, or any of the many other action words that the Bible says we are to do? Don't get caught up because he only used one of the numerous possible verbs that Calvinists often say cannot be done unless God enables them to do it, and then say that he is misrepresenting Calvinism.

[@omarsimpson8414]

@@davidtrue4255 he always misrepresents calvinists, not only with the overuse of the word confess... which confession alone isn't sufficient for conversation... Romans 10... he also assumes that we know the contents of God's will of decree... he says we have no right to criticize because God does everything according to his will and for his glory... without clarifying that we make a clear distinction we make between his sovereign will and his command will... smh...

[@davidtrue4255]

@@omarsimpson8414 For those that disagree with Calvinism, confession doesn't grant conversion, either. My comment was that you were focusing on one word in his argument, and sense, in your understanding, that verb should have been replaced with a different verb, the argument was insufficient. At least, that is the way it seemed in your response. If that is true, it is ignoring the argument as a whole on the basis of such a minor potential error. As for the two wills of God, I am familiar with the theory of a will that makes the commandments and a will that defies them. Yes, I am aware that there is more to them then that, but it is a presupposed theory that is nowhere defined in the Bible, no matter how you justify its relevance.

[@beeforeal5497]

The Holy Spirit works through those who are saved. That's how we have Jesus Christ's imputed righteousness. The Spirit of God lives inside us and does the works when we are truly born again. If believers don't follow the Holy Spirit then they're like the 5 virgins who didn't have their lamps filled. This is also why crowns will be cast at Jesus' feet because it is Him who deserves the credit. It is our choice to follow the Holy Spirit or not and we either follow God or Satan. A middle only appears to exist but in reality we either have a spirit for Christ or antichrist and follow one or the other. A Christian who lives like the devil either isn't really a Christian or is in a backslidden state and will need to make an ultimate freewill choice for one or the other.

[@branch9422]

I understand this and see it is true. However, I recently saw a Catholic POV on end times. And they affirm living in a state of grace at the time of Christ's return. There is a difference, yeah?

[@beeforeal5497]

@@branch9422 - I don't know if there's a difference or not. I don't have a problem with Catholics knowing they need to continue in their walk with Jesus. The problem I do have with Catholics is that they believe in ritualistic things to be saved and pray to Mary and the saints instead of Jesus.

[@branch9422]

@@beeforeal5497 Understood. At the root though, if it is up to us to live in a state of grace, then we kind of share in salvation yeah?

[@branch9422]

@Believe 316I agree Believe. But if the Jesus they believe on is not the one in the bible, but according to teacher's traditions and dogma...it quite likely could be another Jesus. And if Mary is CoMatrix, hmmm...might that mean that she kind of shares in the salvation Christ provides? Thanks for being so gracious. I guess what I am getting at is that if we believe in a Christ that started salvation for us but that we must maintain it for Him...that is not Jesus of the bible...and certainly not the promise. My point is not to bash on Catholics, I was merely desiring to point out that if we are believers and walk at times not by the Spirit...I don't believe we are filled with antichrist and no longer saved. That is kind of a Catholic thing is why i brought it up. Or it might be that you are saying that Christians can follow Satan and end up with no rewards? I am not sure what you are saying i guess. As for the virgins, i would understand this to be for Israel. A warning to them. But even if not, would you understand the 5 virgins that were shut out were still saved?

[@beeforeal5497]

@@branch9422 - Jesus is the only one who saves us. We are saved by grace through faith. Hebrews 11 (the entire chapter) tells us the definition as well as examples of what Biblical saving faith is. The Holy Spirit is who keeps us in His grace and in a relationship with Jesus. It is up to us to continue in faith and have the desire to have a relationship with Jesus because God isn't taking anyone to heaven if they're kicking and screaming because they don't want it. If you want to call that sharing in salvation, then call it whatever you want. I call it a freewill relationship with Jesus because we're not saving or keeping ourselves in the least. We're simply allowing or disallowing the Holy Spirit to do His work in our lives.

[@Bill_G]

"Unable to answer a call from the president" analogy wrongly assumed this person holds the president in any regard ( I.e. God haters)

[@Christian.Portugues.Francisco]

So what you are saying is then that there are people which are less bad as others? So there are People that hate God less? So there are People that have some warm feelings about God? So then the difference between me and another person which goes to hell is my good choice to trust in Jesus? Lighton, sry but I was running away from God. Even when HE started to draw me to HIM I didn’t want to come. But HE kept drawing and i was put to death by the sins that I committed and i was put to death by the fear of HIS holy wrath. I knew that it was right to go to hell and HE then showed me the cross and HE showed me HiS holy SON. HE was there for me. There was at least a moment in which Jesus had me in HIS mind, HE saw me. HE did it for me. Why me? That is the question in my head. Why me. I‘m still not sure what to say to this topic. A Verse that made me think about this „free will, you have to believe, everyone can come, you have to humble yourself, you have to come thing“ was 1 cor 4:7. Even if it was my choose, even if i was more humble, even if i hate God less, even if I loved the truth more, even if there was something that made me believe and decide to trust in Christ. I’m, because HE made me and he made me for his purpose and that‘s good and fine. I deserve everything but grace, that‘s why it is grace. Saying that you could not otherwise? I say to you that you wouldn’t want otherwise. I say you love the sin as an fallen men. I loved it and I wanted to be as deep in the sin as possible (with a bit of self righteousness/the nice guy typ of thing). Like I say. Still not sure what to belive. The questions i made where serious not funny questions.

[@christsslave907]

Sir, you are mistaken because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. Because Paul says: For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only to BELIEVE on him, but also to suffer for his sake; Philippians 1:29 KJV So to believe is Gods work, not ours! Please check that. Warm greetings

[@cabeto821005]

You are basically a Roman Catholic

[@oldman6914]

13 damn minutes. That's all you give us. You don't give people much credit do you. Where's your hour videos. When I go into a steakhouse I don't want to snack on a pretzel and walk out I want a meal. This wasn't even a snack.

[@kwpctek9190]

Yes, but de-programming Calvo-millennial's needs bite-sized pieces (small attention spans..)

[@jeremiahb9718]

KW PCtek These are easier to share and post. He’s done many videos on this topic that were longer and more in depth.

[@GodsTruthMinistries]

Stop whining and cussing and benefit from this.

[@johnjames3908]

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved, thou and thy house. Was that too short? God bless.

[@lionofjudahlambofgod9132]

Thank you