Southern Pacific Classic Steam Preview

A preview of both volumes of Southern Pacific Classic Steam DVD's from Herron Rail Video.

[@douglashagstrom2685]

My grandfather, Art White from San Jose, was an engineer on the Southern Pacific. Greetings from New Hampshire!!

[@lnproductions3227]

That is incredible that we have SP Steam narrated by the best of all Railfans! Florida's Own- Danny Harmon

[@dcoursey82]

WOW. Just...wow! Seeing 4439 going 95mph was just awesome! I'm almost tempted to waste a chunk of my tax return on getting these 2 volumes, and all the Glory Machines ones too!!!

[@jacksalvin364]

Yep. 4439 was scrapped in March 1959.

[@T128Productions]

Only 4449 is the sole survivor of its kind still operating. 4460 meanwhile isn’t operating, but it is on display.

[@josephf-p9668]

You can tell that it's the end of steam when GS 4-8-4s were pulling commuter service from San Francisco to San Jose

[@andway9313]

My god, finally. Some footage of a Southern Pacific 5000 4-10-2 engine in action!

[@alexthesouthernpacificmt4879]

IKRRR

[@southernpacific4346]

I got my copy of volume 1 and I can only say that it is an amazing production. The authentic audio is a great contributor. definitely worth purchasing.

[@deloreanman14]

@ThatYankeeKid - Doyle says he got the 4449 up to 87 mph back in the 1980s but also said it was probably the scariest thing he's ever done. Coming back from Michigan last year he didn't break 65 mph. I bet the old girl could do it no problem but quite honestly, I don't think it's worth the risk.

[@TrainTrackTrav]

Hey, I'd know that voice anywhere. This is narrated by Danny Harmon!

[@Mnrr6131]

Haaah I just recognized it

[@steamgent4592]

Just rode behind R&N 425 this weekend and she had a SP passenger 6 chime whistle on her. It sounded beautiful. Like that sound track in this you used it in a PRR video. Sure miss your late narrator. He sure sounded great.

[@ThatYankeeKid]

I think I might just have to add these videos to my collection. I love SP steam, and seeing that GS-4 at 95 mph is just incredible. It's a shame they can't run the 4449 like that today.

[@jacksalvin364]

4449 operates today for the excursions.

[@JOEMAMA_534]

They could, there’s just nowhere she can do it

[@peppy_c]

The area that she operates consists of old rails, lots of turns, and freight trains. If they were to run her at even 75% speed, she could either fly off the rails or smash into the back of a freight train. I feel like if they were to move her back to her original southern california lines, she could...possibly

[@TweezersUnlimited]

Had both for a while now. Still enjoying both!

[@hubithepyromain6927]

Tell me, which whistles GS4 used, still curious

[@BalticFilms144]

4439 wasn't even at full throttle when she did 95 mph. GS-4s were designed to go 110 mph, and engine 4448 was one of the few engines that have accomplished it.

[@kremestation80]

Baltic 144 Productions Just asking, where did you get this information? Not that I don’t believe you.

[@alphaking4047]

Just bought both volumes and got them today. About to go watch both of them once I'm done with homework. Still wished we had free shipping on the videos for when we purchased both volumes. Anyways, thanks a lot Herron Rail. I'm excited and can't wait to watch both of them together.

[@mikehawk2003]

The live sound recordings and scenes are precious and I would recommend this DVD to anyone who loves SP steam. Only thing I can say about it in a negative way are how drawn out some of the chase scenes can feel. If you're into that though, this is for you.

[@herronrailvideo1169]

The film is what it is. Most viewers like chase scenes and they are longer in the DVD. Most of the sound was recorded by the camera man and are original to the film. This preview is only a fraction of what you get on the DVD.

[@thomasavensjr.2790]

Southern Pacific rr had an incredible variety of steam power for both freight/ passenger operations ; the 4-6-2, 4-8-2 and 4-8-4 type locomotives were enjoyable to observe in passenger service, especially with the pacing scene of engine 4439 hitting 95 mph. I really need to purchase a copy of this DVD to observe for myself at a later date.

[@jacksalvin364]

The Glory days of Southern Pacific Steam 🚂

[@russellgxy2905]

I got though both of these trailers, and only heard the whistle on Pacific 2475. Every other steamer I heard with an 'alert' mechanism was using an air horn. This is still weird to me.

[@herronrailvideo1169]

+Russell Streak SP preferred to use the air horns on engines that gad them, Might have been a company rule.

[@russellgxy2905]

Hmm

[@robertgift]

Were the horns heard farther ahead? Makes sense to use them at non signaled grade crossings.Did locomotives with horns have also whistles?

[@russellgxy2905]

Robert Gift I believe so. From what I read, the horns worked better at high sppeds, and for the Daylight engine in particular, it was better suited when the Coast Route got foggy.

[@rail-brony-gxy4508]

I know for certain the GS, MT, and AC classes had their air horns near the head-end of the locomotive. The whistles were almost always near the cab, except for the Cab Forwards; their whistles were near the smokestack appartently

[@mark10788]

726berkshire The SP Berkshires were numbered 3500-3509. Those berks were from the B&M.

[@JoeRailfan]

Many modern (1940's vintage) steam locomotives had air horns as well as whistles. Horns were considered more audible at speed than whistles, especially important when approaching highway grade crossings at 80 MPH or better!

[@stephenheath8465]

The flat terrain of the Central Valley it makes sense

[@mark10788]

Tailterrier27, The pacific you are unsure of is P-8 #2467. And instead of all survivors being P-8's, there's two P-8's and one P-10. The 2479 is the P-10, while 2467 and 2472 are P-8's.

[@jacksalvin364]

You got that right, 2467 and 2472 are P-8s and 2479 is P-10.

[@darriusstrainsthings5736]

?????

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

Herron Rail is a class act, no doubt about it!

[@herronrailvideo1169]

Thank you Sir!

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

@@herronrailvideo1169 You're very welcome! I've purchased several Herron videos over the years and have NEVER been disappointed!

[@MainlineThruTheRockies]

Seeing a GS-4 going 95 mph is something else man

[@trainknut]

funny I find it kinda silly that modern SP engines(2472, 4449 etc) DONT use airhorns that much

[@alexthesouthernpacificmt4879]

Ya

[@junmarcbacani7827]

Never knew that some SP steamers had airhorns like PRR S1 had. Great video nowadays

[@herronrailvideo1169]

Many SP steam locos had air horns as well as whistles. Do a little research and you'll find which ones had the horns.

[@bcstechnologylimited896]

I had to laugh when I saw the Daylight highballing past, accompanied by the sound of a Diesel "honker."

[@kremestation80]

You know they had air horns right?

[@Flyboy207]

They rarely used the whistles in service back then, you can see the air horn above the smoke box in the skyline casing.

[@Stickycarp28284]

It’s a pity that most steam locomotives in the video are scrapped

[@alexthesouthernpacificmt4879]

4:41 the whistle

[@alexthesouthernpacificmt4879]

And 5:06

[@T128Productions]

They sound close to #2472’s whistle. Not to mention, they’re sister engines. Only 3 Pacifics are still around: #2472, #2467, and #2479. At least 3 that I know of right now, I’m not sure if there are any others still around, but it’s very unlikely.

[@deloreanman14]

It just doesn't look physically possible for those drivers to move THAT fast. You'd think it would just tear itself apart.

[@trainknut]

berk SH AIAREZZZZ(as a easterner would call it) were primarily used by eastern, and central railroads. most western railroads(including southern pacific, santa fe, and union pacific) did NOT use meany locomotive types(as did eastern) such as 4-6-4's, 2-8-4's, 2-10-0's. as well as meany eastern railroads overlooking some western classics like: 2-10-2's, 4-8-2's, and some even overlooking pacifics(nyc had only a few and most others completely overlooked them(of course excluding prr's K4a)

[@kae4466]

interesting to see a cab foreward used as a banking (helper) engine.

[@stephenheath8465]

They were use as mid train helpers on the Tehachapi Pass at the begining of the Diesel Era

[@troystaten5633]

Neat video, although I think the film has been speeded up when the trains leave the station in SF I don't think they ever go around that first curve that fast.

[@Rainbow2997]

I saw SP 4449 twice.

[@T128Productions]

And don’t forget, the sister engines are also featured here.

[@SuperFoxyRailwayProduction6702]

4:57 Nice Southern Pacific 6 Chime whistle

[@T128Productions]

For a second I thought it was #2472, but it’s actually the sister engine, #2475.

[@BigBoyCarlos]

Hey isn't the narrator Danny Harmon AKA distantsignal from youtube?

[@T128Productions]

Yes it is. Ol’ Danny Harmon himself.

[@726berkshire]

What was the number of the SP Berkshire?

[@darxsaberzz]

4:34 holy crap never seen a steam locomotive running by that speed

[@HoboJoe-tr1tm]

They go even faster, and it looks crazy fast

[@carolynmarshall5435]

Love it

[@mark10788]

*****, 2477 doesn't exist anymore, only 2467, 2472 and 2479 are still around.

[@davecrawford296]

NICE JOB ON THAT VIDEOES KEEP IT UP

[@phillyfan-182]

2:18 i read a wikipedia article on the sp ac-9s and they're all scrapped. sp coulda donated a few of them to some museums or the also coulda been restored. why'd they scrap them all

[@SuperFoxyRailwayProduction6702]

Idk i think the reason of the Diesels

[@alexthesouthernpacificmt4879]

1:21 my dude i heard a train whitsle

[@T128Productions]

Same here. Also, at 1:44, too bad all the 4-8-2 types were scrapped. If only they saved at least one, it’s more likely it would’ve been on display along side Cab Forward #4294, except not really.

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

@@T128Productionswhat’s even more of a shame as SPs 4-8-2 are some of my favorite “Mountain” type engines out there and none of them even exist anymore

[@kaseyleitchnextgen3281]

3:51: *Who pulled both cords?*

[@mikepericolosi9386]

Where can I purchase the DVD? I would like to see all that this preview says is on the dvd

[@herronrailvideo1169]

herronrail.com Items 046 (Volume 1) and 047 (Volume 2). Thanks for asking.

[@mikepericolosi9386]

Your welcome. You might be recieving a payment for Vol. 1 ;)

[@madrabidfireman]

2467 is the third saved pacific and 2479 is a P-10,not a P-8

[@T128Productions]

At 3:51, did she have both the whistle and an air horn blowing at the same time? That sounds wicked cool! I‘ve always thought that most of the larger steam locomotives (like the cab forwards, mountains & GS Northern classes for example) would be equipped with an air horn, but not a smaller 4-6-2 Pacific type. Were the 4-6-2s really equipped with an air horn? Don’t get me wrong, I like the idea that the sound from the air horns travel further than a steam whistle, which I find very useful, and bizarre at the same time.

[@JOEMAMA_534]

I think the car was honking at it lol

[@mikehawk2003]

Almost all mainline SP steam locomotives were equipped with airhorns. There is a video of SP 2467 at Hunter's Point blowing its airhorn in the background.

[@hippmitchellhappyhipp4848]

2:16 Cool Steam

[@user-eo4xw3co4q]

I came here for the AC-9

[@herronrailvideo1169]

You'll find more AC9 footage on the DVD.

[@trainknut]

2468 and 2479 is actually a p-10 and under restoration

[@silverstatehighiron]

The Arctic Gamer 2467 will likely not run for a long time. 2479 however is being restored.

[@CardinalFanSince]

I'm sorry but why did SP steam use a horn instead of their whistle?

[@WTC1973]

Horns were easier to use at high speeds, so, that's why.

[@superpadave2]

The New York Central Niagaras used air horns also,

[@russellgxy2905]

The Pennsy did the same thing with their S1. Given this specific loco was apparently fined for going 156 mph to make up time, I can see why. No way a whistle would be heard well at that speed.

[@jeffdemition2308]

yes because you can hear a from farther places but they sometimes usr whistles to but they you use horn more often than whistles

[@thesierrastandard7281]

Wow I'm gonna buy this do you have a Website?

[@thesierrastandard7281]

Oh sorry I watched the video

[@trainknut]

can you tell me a rough estimate in % how much of this is authentic recording... because when pentrex gets a whistle wrong it sets me off

[@quasimoto7662]

Wonder if 4449 is in this

[@brucetharpe762]

0:18

[@vonmillardmanalastas7524]

Is 4444 in this Video?

[@SPNGLovato18]

2:17 nice

[@Therickrollkid]

guys i saw a daylight super dome in this cideo

[@justahillbilly7777]

Correction. What you saw was one of Espee's home built *three-quarter length* domes.

[@cbolanz1]

can someone tell the maximum horsepower for each type of engine please? I have 6000 hp for cab-forwards and 5500 hp for the GS daylights. But the internet won't give me answers the rest. any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@HunterR909]

Isn't a Herron, a type of Bird?

[@trainman122]

how did they get the steam engine wistles to sound like semi truck horns?

[@T128Productions]

That’s exactly what I was wondering. Not only were the daylight trains getting streamlined, but in very foggy areas of the west coast, the air horns would be used. Most Daylight trains ran in the west coast of the United States. Not to mention it’s easier to blow an air horn than a steam whistle, which you had to pull the cord instead of pressing on a button or lever. At least that would be my way of explaining it.

[@pennymcknight1346]

Interesting I didn’t know the gs 4 had a horn instead of a whistle kind of ruins the steam engine

[@BalticFilms144]

It had both. Horns were more audible at high speed.

[@MichaelBryce1125]

Since when did SP make their Steam engines sound like E or F units?

[@herronrailvideo1169]

The GS class, cab forwards and some other classes had air horns as well as whistles. Look for other comments below about air horns on SP steam.

[@ThatOneBayAreaRailfanDude]

2:09

[@T128Productions]

Only one of its kind still exists. Too bad this one was scrapped.