I have built many 2 stroke and currently on my first 4 stoke build. 2 strokes and definitely budget friendly and tons of upgrades, but more maintenance and 2 strokes are LOUD. My 4stroke goes just as fast stock (35) and its quiet and smooth! My opinion. If you are looking to have fun buy a 2stroke but to get to work, get the 4stroke
@midnightangel41294 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@jamesconner34374 жыл бұрын
Same...I'm a senior with many years of small cycle experience, and now I live in a better-grade place where I don't want neighbors upset when I go out or come in really late or early...:)) Upgrade a 4-stroke just 5-7 mph is enough and still quiet.
@tcmedialab3 жыл бұрын
I lost my license for a year and have decided to commute by bike to work. Problem is I'm 350 lbs and my area has a lot of hills. I've been doing alright and been losing a bit of weight but I defintely would like something to help me on these hills so I can go more places. Would the 4-stroke be better for me then?
@kensmith46233 жыл бұрын
@@tcmedialab hey i used to weigh close to that and ran a 2 stroke to work for a year. I think its down to maintenance preferences. If you can afford, a fat tire bike with a 44t or larger might make those hills smoother in my opinion.
@alextrezvy68892 жыл бұрын
"35" means mph or km/h?
@jackwhitcher47414 жыл бұрын
Also with the 2 stroke, they love to be revved and I noticed you gave it little revs and let the clutch out way too fast when doing off the line. So learning how to better use a clutch would probably help the performance
@jrambo74953 жыл бұрын
OUCH!!😬
@jamirlyle66143 жыл бұрын
Instablaster.
@trxtech30102 жыл бұрын
Classic 2 Stroke Guy excuses. "it wasn't ridden right, it was to lean, it needed a rebiuld"
@Sam-ob4of Жыл бұрын
@@trxtech3010*rebuild
@shancyroesner92124 жыл бұрын
4 strokes are convenient and easy to ride but 2 strokes in my opinion are more fun because of the Manuel clutch, and when tuned right the are really fast
@arturos.l.22484 жыл бұрын
They are also easier to install and work onto bikes
@vipervidsgamingplus57233 жыл бұрын
Plus way more modifications
@kennithumperovitch13123 жыл бұрын
Yeah but I don't want to die going full bored out. I have a temperamental 2 cycle motorized bike. CLUTCH HUH? One time I forgot that the clutch was not the brake. Crash! Bike is okay! I have some pain. Ha! Ha! Bike ran the other day. No carburetor cover or air filter. Bought as is, running!
@shancyroesner92123 жыл бұрын
@@kennithumperovitch1312 all motorcycles use the left handle as the clutch
@kennithumperovitch13123 жыл бұрын
@@shancyroesner9212 I know that now! I have a motorized bicycle thought that would be different.
@kermitthefrog65084 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this video because I'm getting my first 2 stroke soon I can't wait for it to arrive.
@johnmccauly30224 жыл бұрын
I got mine almost a year ago. Put it on a lowrider micargi. Someone wanted it BAD. Offered me $1500. But it was my first build and I didnt want to part with it.. She's my little green lady lol People love it
@JP-zf4hd3 жыл бұрын
Did u end up building it?
@vipervidsgamingplus57233 жыл бұрын
I am getting mine back, modifying it and throwing it on a new bike.
@RandyRandersonthefamous3 жыл бұрын
Same plus $50 in parts. expansion chamber and muffler, should make it about as loud as a normal sedan
@williamsporing15002 жыл бұрын
I was digging through all my bike stuff and found an old Indian frame I had. Put a 4 stroke on it. Fabbed up my own motor mounts. Only issue I had was the exhaust interfered with the frame. Easily solved by heating with the torch and bending it how I needed it. Started out with the stock 44 tooth sprocket, and the bike didn’t really have any legs. Changed to a 40t, better, but not quite. I’ve been running a 36 tooth and it does great. I really don’t want to be going over 35 on an over 100 year old frame. Matter of fact, I couldn’t keep those old rims tuned, so I put a set of worksman 11 guage spokes wheels on it. It’s great fun and I ride it to work every day, about 15 miles round trip. Now the weak links in both of these kits….. The rag joint. They’re ‘ok’ if you set them up right. Spend the money and get a hub adapter. The chain tensioners are garbage and dangerous. I’ve seen and heard of too many of them coming loose and ending up in the spokes. For the 2 strokes, they make a spring loaded one that fits on the gearbox. No such option for the 4 stroke. I found my best option was welding a Chevy small block alternator bracket between the seat stay and chain stay. Strong, cheap and looks better. I’ll be looking into a torque converter or a sun clutch soon because the centrifugal clutches are the weak link on the 4 strokes. Great video. Just remember everybody, ride like you’re invisible, because you are.
@robertpersall984 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I am partial to 4 stroke, mainly because I like the sound and no mixing fuel. Maintenance is also a factor. The cost is worth it to me. Again, thank you!
@arturos.l.22484 жыл бұрын
If you have a smaller bike, go for the 2 stroke though. It will fit better
@barrykrajeski55983 жыл бұрын
I love my 4 so far just make sure you get the good motor mount the one that came in the kit was crap and still had to do a bunch of grinding on the mount to get every bit I could to fit the bigger motor but well worth it.Plan on doing another kinda fun for a 64 old retired.
@dmoore00794 жыл бұрын
One option that's often overlooked is the BT80 (bullet train), which is an electric start 70CC 2 stroke with a 12V battery, oil bath clutch, and a charging system. Not only are they a bit more powerful than the 49cc motors, but have a full electrical system to wire up a headlight, turn signals, brake light, electronic speedometer/tach, etc. Lots and lots of possibilities there.
@Fred_the_19962 жыл бұрын
Hpw expensive is it
@SUPRAMIKE18 Жыл бұрын
That brings in the issue of it being over 50cc and having to get it registered in many areas, (But most dont bother to check mine is 100cc with "50cc" stamped onto it 😂)
@niteshades_promise2 жыл бұрын
79cc 4 stroke phatmoto guy here. i love my 4 stroke for commuting. a 2 stroke to gear faster n rip on the weekends be fun too.🍻
@lincoln54474 жыл бұрын
2 strokes are more fun, fast, and loud. 4 strokes are a bit slower but generally easier. Depends on what you want.
@leroymack60923 жыл бұрын
000+++p
@leroymack60923 жыл бұрын
+99
@scottcupp81293 жыл бұрын
Always been a 2 stroke guy myself. I have some vintage dirt bikes. I have a Honda CR500 and a CR480R. Their powerbands are a RUSH!
@sundial69193 жыл бұрын
@@scottcupp8129 yup like a slingshot had a h2 kaw like that
@lincoln54472 жыл бұрын
If I ever had one of these, personally I'd prefer the 4 stroke. It might not be quite as quick, but it's easier to maintain, quieter (I'd rather not have a noise complaint) and generally more reliable
@jeffries12328 ай бұрын
Im sold on the 4 stroke .Quieter ,runs just as fast , no fuel mix why not hey . Great comparison mate , appreciate all the effort and edits great work
@codelicious65904 жыл бұрын
I've noticed some of the 4 stroke kits try to sneak in the same price but leave out either the motor mount, the wide crank set or I've also seen BOtH left out and still like almost $300! So, be sure to pay close attention to what's included in the kits!
@lexuses39423 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video 👏🏼 I’ve been building the 2 strokes for 10 years now. Now considering the 4 stroke, I’m just curious 🧐 this was a great overall view of exactly what i needed to know. Thank you
@SouthernCustomCC3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and being a part of the community.
@derekpirie91884 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison for the 2 vs 4 stroke engines. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. I have been building Motorized Bikes ( AutoCycles) for six and half years and have 5 in my garage and working on the sixth one now (to be completed , tomorrow, Sunday 26th)., with a further two in my lockup. They range from the two old ones, Humber Cycles, to 3x 66cc 2 Strokes, one 43cc Weedeater ( weedwacker in your part of the world) in a folding commuter cycle. Two 4 strokes, one 39cc and the other 49cc same as your engine. The 39cc is side mounted on the left side at axle height.
@erendyalatorre77854 жыл бұрын
This is the best video comparison anyone has ever made.
@SouthernCustomCC4 жыл бұрын
I am truly grateful for this comment. Thank you very much!
@Icem4n844 жыл бұрын
I've just fitted the 4 stroke, although I have some issues to overcome. The air filter has to be changed and I'm going to have to bend the exhaust more or cut off the bracket and re weld it so I can mount the exhaust. The 2 stroke is notably smaller.
@jaredwilcox18354 жыл бұрын
I had a 4 stroke, sadly it was stollen, and aside from the transmission being messed up from the only issue I had with it was gas getting into my oil pan.
@bugzbunny32234 жыл бұрын
Probably had a improper float height in the carb
@rainbowrailroadcrossing77984 жыл бұрын
4 strokes looks cool
@ronaldreinhardt1785 Жыл бұрын
Probably the best comparison of the 2 and 4 stroke engines...helped me a lot!!!
@vincentmorelli45494 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I've dealt with both and even the 79cc predator. I eventually just went to the predator 212cc. Completely different and it changed the whole bike.
@johnmccauly30224 жыл бұрын
I wanna make an oil drum cart with a 212.
@noahlaque39013 жыл бұрын
I have a predator 212 on a gokart, and you put it on a bike?💀
@Fred_the_19962 жыл бұрын
A 212 on a BIKE???!💀💀💀💀 that will probably kill you haha
@teryocoolwhip Жыл бұрын
Where you ride it to commute or fun?
@digbiffer76724 жыл бұрын
My first build was a 2 stroke I got off of ebay. Cheaper to initially set up, but high maintenance with low quality parts. Ultimately it didn't last. For my second build I went with the 4 stroke. I will never run a 2 stroke again. I cannot believe the difference. Every single thing is better about 4 stroke.
@ernestososa28924 жыл бұрын
This is what I was looking for. Now can we get 66cc vs 79cc.
@SouthernCustomCC4 жыл бұрын
You want a side by side with a typical 80cc (66) and a 79cc predator? That can be arranged. Let me finish the ”Pimp My 50cc” series, then I'll do that side by side. Anything I might have missed in this video that you'd like to see in the next? Thanks for your contribution to the community 👍
@ernestososa28924 жыл бұрын
Southern Custom CC I can wait I have patient to watch your videos. Thank you for the recommendation
@eduardodiaz57624 жыл бұрын
Just do a the new 100cc(80cc, actual 78.5cc) vs the 4 stroke, I prefer the 2 strokes easy and lightweight motors, also cheaper
@jorelldye43464 жыл бұрын
Southern Custom CC The new big bore 2 stroke engine kits come with a displacement of 78.5cc instead of 66cc. Look for a "YD100", "T100", "Zeus", "Zeda100 Firestorm" etc
@eduardodiaz57624 жыл бұрын
@Mario Salinas that's a bummer my dude, those 78.5cc 2T are real torquey and easily do 40+mph if done correctly on stock parts, while achieving 50-60miles per tank.
@jasonmaggard3672 жыл бұрын
I just love your video and I like how you're not biased you don't voice your opinion you just show the product what it is how it performs straight-up just too products and not your opinion I love that your video is simple I like how you plainly stated that there is different variations due to user it really help me decide on what versus what thank you very much please make more videos some videos i.cringe just to watch their videos either they can't narrate properly or something wrong with their voice or their language of their English watching your video was quite Pleasant
@pedrodossantos58904 жыл бұрын
6:19 26kg 2 stroke, 29kg 4 stroke
@dehoedisc72474 жыл бұрын
So what? That's a true statistic, but it makes very little difference to an average rider who is having a good time on either bike.
@proudtitanicdenier43004 жыл бұрын
@@dehoedisc7247 He was just converting it from pounds to kilograms. Calm down.
@God-yb2cg4 жыл бұрын
Obrigado!
@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu10594 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, your visuals explained everything without trying to talk over the engine noise .. Well done!
@mikko3394 жыл бұрын
nice, this was one best videos of 2/4-stroke motors that i have seen. 4stroke seems to be better chose even if it cost more.
@Farmtractor4 жыл бұрын
It’s not, valves need adjustment as soon as you run it for 5 hours, centrifugal clutch wears out crazy fast, gears in transmission often grind after wear, gear shaft splines shims off after a while, both aren’t the best but 2 stroke has a mechanical clutch which means you control it better. I’ve owned both bikes.
@shroomzgames73704 жыл бұрын
@@Farmtractor i only find valves need sorted that quickly if you keep the engine high rpm for any extended period of time, which for these bikes is a problem due to a single gear, you can lesson valve problem through gearing but will loose most the torque just to get a suitable cruising rpm on the 4-stroke, i've put 100+ hours on these engines and not needed the valve clearances sorted. I dont find the clutches to bad either, you would spend more on 2-stroke oil than you would clutches for the life of the engine, just the hassle of having to swap them out every couple of months. But weight has a major factor in this, if your a bigger person expect to do triple the maintenance on these parts, same for weight of bike, tires, and terrain you use it on.
@arild15354 жыл бұрын
trust me 2 stroke is the way to go in these small bicycle engines, two stroke has way more performance potential on the same cylinder size compared to fourstroke
@AtemiRaven4 жыл бұрын
4 stroke overall are just better. They have a bit less torque so they suffer a bit on inclines, but more overall power allowing faster flat speed. Also the fact you don't have to mix oil in with your fuel means it is cheaper to run. It has a less grating sound as well, I have always found 2-stroke motors to be extremely annoying.
@peterpemrich69624 жыл бұрын
@@Farmtractor your explanation helps my decision much more. What brand kit should I get
@joeMW2844 жыл бұрын
the only REAL performance mod I've found on the 4 stroke is replacing the stock carb with the 2-stroke NT carb. Picked up a few MPH and better midrange power. The stock box muffler (on the huasheng) isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. The carb is the bottleneck.
@derekpirie91884 жыл бұрын
Just earlier this week i changed the stock carb on my 49cc OHV 4stroke Hauseng to the NT carb. The easiest fit as i has the cast inlet matched the port in the head. As the carb dimensions matched, the engine ran rich ( 4stroked). The NT is set for 66cc. I dropped the needle, top notch, and the engine ran smooth. Better idle and crisp right through the rev range.
@seriouscyrus333 жыл бұрын
Read a few articles on this subject, each one said the 4 stroke can run longer than the 2 stroke for about an hour or so and the 2 stroke for about 30 minutes before over heating. If you have the budget to mod, 2 stroke. I prefer 4 stroke, regular gasoline and longevity is the deal breaker.
@niteshades_promise2 жыл бұрын
4 stroke will run for years and you can run it wide open for hours no problem. phatmoto for 2 or 3 years🍻
@johnmcclain38873 жыл бұрын
This was very well done, very informative, thanks, will look for the next.
@tonypotts37694 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I miss your bike builds. I appreciate everything you upload tho.
@jjhack3r4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the bigest performance mod you can do to the 4 stroke kit... Exhaust. The stock exhaust on both kits are crap. The 2 stroke would benifit more but it still makes quite a difference on the 4 stroke.
@maximroos68933 жыл бұрын
What exhaust do you recommend?
@Sebi0762 жыл бұрын
There's much more upgrades you can do with both engines, especially the 4 stroke to make it better. Other than simple upgrades such as the carb or exhaust, if you put the work into it you can do the insides of the engine as well and make it preform much better. That applies for both engines. Also the sprockets can be upgraded to a adapter clamp and can be adjusted to make sizes.
@wadedalton22474 жыл бұрын
You also need to take into consideration what mix he was running in the vid for the 2 stroke, I run 50/1 in my bike and I can tell you it would put the stops on both of those bikes
@clutchplox4 жыл бұрын
thats how mine was till it blew up
@michaelrogers38573 жыл бұрын
@@clutchplox i use around 32/1 i belive. its winter in canada so i havnt been riding it and forget what the mix is right now
@JackParsons.3 жыл бұрын
40:1
@v-g-z36894 жыл бұрын
I´d take the 2 stroke for sure!
@jjhack3r4 жыл бұрын
So many options to make more power...
@remady58273 жыл бұрын
I had the two stroke one and it was able to push like 35mph
@aydenparkinson88743 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if he had taken his governor off his
@MTopRoller3 жыл бұрын
@@aydenparkinson8874 mine came from the most Chinese company ever and didn’t even come with a governor, downhill it was going almost 40!
@alexandercalderon8243 жыл бұрын
Yeah my two stroke does 28.2 mph!!! Only 49cc uberscoot. But I think I seized the motor. I hope it’s just the carb. I ordered a good carb to change it this week.
@piercemccauley70793 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 4 stroke and it does 35 ez
@RexFixx3 жыл бұрын
Mine is like 45,6kmh
@kennithumperovitch13123 жыл бұрын
Isn't it easier to have a pull start than too have the momentum too start the two cycle? CURSING? Should have heard me today. I have spondylitheses of the spine and epilepsy. Hard to push enough momentum of my legs to start the bike.
@SouthernCustomCC3 жыл бұрын
It is, it you’ll need to change out the crank for a wide pedal set crank in order to pedal. Also, the pull starts tend to break pretty quickly.
@alocal13344 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a lotorweek show for a minute!! Well done!
@LAHover4 жыл бұрын
Well done video! Thanks for posting.
@SouthernCustomCC4 жыл бұрын
LA Hover : Thank you for being a part of the community 👍
@integrationofmanandmachine47144 жыл бұрын
@@SouthernCustomCC hello
@chacefosterАй бұрын
Broski that was a perfectly executed video!!! 1,000,000!! Cuz they dont have that emoji yet❤
@eliasblack73754 жыл бұрын
It would seem the 4-stroke would benefit me better... I need it for going in and out of town.. it’s not start and stop it’s more just straight line and the 4 stroke seems to have a higher top speed...
@SonnetGomes Жыл бұрын
Great comparision. I would like to build a 4 stroke. How heavy are would these bikes be? 2 stroke vs 4 stroke?
@rhiantaylor34464 жыл бұрын
I didn't see much point in saying that the 2stroke was "more upgradable" than the 4stroke without even hinting at what that means i.e.potential for 25% vs 10% performance improvement or whatever.
@charlescuster60624 жыл бұрын
Mi
@elzanatecatracho62674 жыл бұрын
Figure 58mph on flat ground vs 31mph stock (my personal experience), loads more torque, and alot better sound.
@leyio74532 жыл бұрын
There has to be a problem with your 2 stroke I installed 3 and went over 35 mph on 24 inch wheels(i gotta say I weight about 150lbs for 6ft tall) and I suppose the 26inches would make it even faster but most certainly will impair the ability to go from 0 with only the engine power(w/o pedaling)
@adamwoodward20033 жыл бұрын
When it comes to small engines like this, I think the 2-stroke is the best option. Less complexity (no valves, cams etc) and a single cylinder 2-stroke engine will run smoother than a single cylinder 4-stroke as there are more power strokes per rotation of the engine. They also make more power for given displacement again because of more frequent power strokes.
@vincent107173 жыл бұрын
I agree but they don't run smoother.
@jonnypiper53782 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooo
@jett-rampartflyer28522 жыл бұрын
When you go off on a paragraph-long schpeel, for fun. On Earth, 4 strokes are a helluva lot 'smoother' running engines, & will last much longer.
@mikesbarn18584 жыл бұрын
2 mods for the 4 stroke. Rejet carb and remove intake and exhaust skirts. Covers 1/4 of both. Has integrated head so no milling for compression.
@williamgosvener474 жыл бұрын
What about removing the governor....
@ghettobikelife88334 жыл бұрын
william gosvener all the Chinese huasheng ones I’ve seen didn’t have a governor, I’ve heard the legit Honda gxh50 does tho
@theeoddments9604 жыл бұрын
Meof Myof answer is the 79cc if you’re looking for power definitely.
@dronepilot260rc7 ай бұрын
I built a 2 stroke and 4 stroke but sold the 2 stroke. I still ride the 4 stroke almost 2 years later with no maintenance but oil change and carb change cause I let the gas sit in the carb . Carb was $22
@briansinclair58904 жыл бұрын
Good video but the 2 stroke can be hot tuned after the carb is set to full drive it needs an adjusment when hot
@Sn34kB013 жыл бұрын
I live in a pretty hilly are, and I would like to know if the 4 stroke torque is comparably better for up hill driving compared to 2 stroke.
@js-kb9cp4 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison vid!! Thx
@mr_bear63622 жыл бұрын
In terms of power, the 2 stroke seems to have more horsepower, but lower torque, meanwhile the 4 stroke is flipped, which makes it slightly better for going up hills or pulling a trailer (not by much though)
@cozycastle Жыл бұрын
Now this is how you do a side by side comparison
@yougotpredicted4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep up the great content.
@MrUnder30seconds Жыл бұрын
the trouble is with synthetic oil is its expensive, so i use mineral oil, any oil, if u use gearbox oil or used engine oil, just be sure to mix it well with petroleum spirits before mixing it with fuel and always keep the tank moving
@jamescahill33904 жыл бұрын
In my experience the two stroke is louder, has more exhaust and there is more power at higher RPM. 49cc and under is street legal in some places.
@tedcater96244 жыл бұрын
Wow nice informative video great work
@iceyaj31674 жыл бұрын
i have both models. if you ask what platform should i prefer? if i was alone in this dark wet road in the middle of the foggy forest being chase after a mob of hungry wolfs and im allow to escape with one motorized bike that would be a 2 stroke. the 4 stroke is easy to ride but what i dislike about it is the centrifugal clutch can be easily wear out on a stop and go traffic. far what i figure it isn't made to haul a 200lbs man on a 26" wheel from a stand still but was made for them little wheels mini pocket bikes "if im not mistaken" unless some kind modification in the gear box is made to gain low end torque or a 56 teeth large sprocket on the back wheel to increase the life span of the centrifugal clutch. far as the maintenance i go with the 2 stroke. on a long straight road the 4 stroke is fun to ride.
@dekem71374 жыл бұрын
I'm roughly 240lbs and was going to buy a 26inch beach cruiser. I'm still debating which one would be better for me, I'll be riding it mainly in town a few times a wk in the summer months. I was considering a 4 stroke because it's less noisier & seems smoother. Do you think due to my weight you would recommend the 2? Also there are a lot of hills in the town I live. Not much flat.
@xxzenonionnex76584 жыл бұрын
@@dekem7137 get the 212 engine version you will never have any problems and just put a 50cc sticker over the 212cc sticker . The police don't know the difference .
@iceyaj31674 жыл бұрын
@@dekem7137 as long its not a steep hill you'll be fine. i don't recommend trying to gas it on a hill either. you'll burn out the centrifugal clutch in matter of no time. if you don't mind pedaling and get the bike going before giving it gas than its fine. same goes with the 2 stroke, gotta get it going before engaging the clutch or else the engine will stall. if you decide to go with the 4 stroke i highly advise you to buy a 56t sprocket instead of the 44t sprocket that comes with the kit that's if the drive train comes with the old traditional chain driven gear box instead of the newer version that comes with the rubber belt. with the 56t sprocket on you'll gain more low end torque therefore you'll get up to speed quickly and increase the life span of the centrifugal clutch BUT lose top end speed. that's the trade off between the 56t and the 44t. and get rid of the factory centrifugal clutch that comes with the engine. they're cheap and wears out quickly. spend some money and get you a quality clutch that will last. i've been there done it. once the bike get up to speed you'll enjoy it, less vibration, less noise compare to the 2 stroke rival.
@joehardy12883 жыл бұрын
Wow great comparison video
@frankopenbrier27423 жыл бұрын
Got to love them hyper bicycles I think that's what kind it is LOL
@jayj33712 жыл бұрын
Video is educated to me. Awesome and Thanks
@Waxxumus4 жыл бұрын
2 stroke wins easily for sure. More power, easier to fix, cheaper parts, better gas mileage, less weight. And it goes BBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP
@MrPrius-fy1sc4 жыл бұрын
now if i could get a girl that would go BBBBBRRRRRRAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP
@The1stHomosapien3 жыл бұрын
4 stroke will be 10x better on fuel.
@roland96373 жыл бұрын
Everything's correct apart of gas mileage
@jjhack3r4 жыл бұрын
Biggest thing about the 4 stroke that i hate is that it seems to burn clutch until you get well past 20mph...
@eeww26744 жыл бұрын
Although this option is not for most it worked for me most would say use weaker springs in the clutch well I ripped mine out completely so I'd have to start on the go and chug to a stop but it was so worth it when that clutch kicked in it was full power 💪 😂 and would go 40mph forever with no wear but ya just get some weaker springs
@eeww26744 жыл бұрын
I rode it thousands of miles like that till the shitty pocket bike trans wore out now the motor sits on a shelve not worth the $ or time to rebuild I went back to the 2 stroke it has more power definitely worth all the disadvantages like mixing has by the way stick to 16:1 break in and 20: 1 after that never go with less oil!!! And in winter move the jet up a notch to increase feul or it will run lean
@dehoedisc72474 жыл бұрын
For sure, 49cc and 50cc are practically the same size, but just for the record, we are talking 49cc here. And it would have been nice if the gear ratios on both bikes would have been specified.
@tauncfester30224 жыл бұрын
Specifically 4.11:1 for the 2 stroke and 3.2:1 for the pocketbike X7 transmission, best to run a big rear sprocket (54T~60T) on the pocketbike transmission.
@Gtothej52 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for a tricycle? Would 49cc work?
@CoffeeAddictEvan2 жыл бұрын
I'd say go for the biggest motor that's street legal in your area
@murphymcpoyle17353 жыл бұрын
Pendergrass, GA? I think I saw my aunts house.
@SROairsoft3 жыл бұрын
I have an extremely modified 2 stroke for fun and a 4 stroke for general use
@chriss43653 жыл бұрын
Where do you find the laws for using these cant find them?
@kirkedwards3658 ай бұрын
Ok, being a newb, ive got a couple of questions..... 1. Why doesnt the 2 stroke have a pull start? 2. Do both engines use a centrifugal clutch? I currently have a 4 stroke and love it. Adusting the valves, rejetting the carb and advancing the timing 2°, (also doing your clutch spring trick) and im doing an easy 30 mph on dirt and 37 on even pavement. And i weigh in at 220lbs! Whats your theory on exhaust? Straight or keep the muffler?
@Mav3rickShorts4 жыл бұрын
good video very well put together
@frankcloskey77893 жыл бұрын
Excellent views . The 4 stroke is the best .7/31/2021
@HirevCHIP150cg3 жыл бұрын
Worth it I love mine 2. Stroke
@maximroos68933 жыл бұрын
What did you customize to make yours as fast as it is? And what fuel/oil combination did you use in the beginning and after a few tanks?
@polok8903 жыл бұрын
How about a quiet muffler for the 2 stroke
@aaronweaver12182 жыл бұрын
Great video! Simple solution, get both!
@tauncfester30224 жыл бұрын
Oh! YT comments about motorized bikes Well the 2 stroke's instruction sheet always says to install the engine on a "V" framed bike for best fitment. It pretty much locks the engine in place which you can't say about the cruiser frame. Also that 4 stroke gearbox is 3.2:1 gearing versus the 4.11:1 on the reduction on the 50cc 2 stroke. Fairly big difference in how either bike will climb hills You would be better to buy a 54T sprocket for the 4stroke to even this reduction ratio. Also note that the "5G" type Glimer belt transmission on the better quality 4 strokes last longer. All of the 2 strokes have eccentric output sprockets and I noticed the 2 stroke in this video was 'warbling" because of that off center sprocket. This has been an issue with the 2 strokes for years, it's what eventually damages the left side spokes through the rubber clamping ring rag-joint. The 2 strokes also benefit from a smaller main jet and running 32:1 fuel : oil. Remember to grease your primary gears every 300 miles or so..
@chrisyarbrough19734 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention you have to check the oil every 10 hours on the four stroke and that little stock transmission that comes with it yet to do an upgrade yes it goes 30 miles an hour but you will bring that up after less than a hundred miles as I did with mine. That little transmission on the 4-stroke is not made for Hills just flat ground and a two-stroke has good for no matter what if you put a smaller sprocket on the back like a 32 tooth you don't have no takeoff power but you will have lots of upper in power for Speed
@midnightangel41294 жыл бұрын
10 hours break in period, 50 hours afterwards. That's more like my scooter with what look like a copy of a Honda gx25 brush cutter engine.
@BernieWojtkowiak7 ай бұрын
Could you put the link of where you got the 4 stroke at? Please
@derekrobinson22873 жыл бұрын
What kind of bikes are these? I really like the look of them!!!
@SouthernCustomCC3 жыл бұрын
These are the Hyper Bike Co. beach cruiser.They are my favorite to build with, personally. They haven't sold them for close to 1 year now. Maybe they will bring them back. Santa Cruz bike Co. has a similar frame, but much more expensive.
@joeyd.5893 жыл бұрын
Love ur video. No bs, right to the point
@marcs40914 жыл бұрын
Almost not comparing Apples to Apples because the four stroke transmission is geared so high. With a 44 tooth sprocket they have no of hill climbing power whatsoever. But should do 35 on flat ground. Also that's a pretty nice engine mounting bracket for a generic kit.
@user-dn6qy1ou1f4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. But...you can step it up like I did. Got a similar bike from my in-laws. Got the 212 predator engine, torque converter, and a stage 1 kit. After some reinforcement at the welds, it does very very well for a few hundred bucks!
@SouthernCustomCC4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Careful though....its not called a death row set up for no reason! I hope you have a lot of fun! Be safe, and thanks for watching!
@Alejandro-xd1pf4 жыл бұрын
Gatta say, the 2-stoke sounds more fun. They both seem to perform about the same.
@496843 жыл бұрын
I like this idea better then my moped. 😊💪👊
@andrewconde8 ай бұрын
I had a GX35 4 stroke grass cutter engine bought it from the junkyard
@JohnSmith-pn1kq2 жыл бұрын
What about travel distance? How many miles will they go on a tank of gas?
@zackschilling51544 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2 stroke 80cc thinking that I would get better power but go the same results as you but I’m 60lbs heavier and I put the kit on a 24 inch tire bike if i were to do it over again I would do it on a 26” bicycle and gotten the four stroke I got the two stroke to save money but by the time I upgraded all the bad kit parts I paid more than what I would have if I got a four stroke and the carb needs to be cleaned Once a month or it gets stuck both on stock and upgraded carbs
@xthe_moonx2 жыл бұрын
u dont think changing exhaust on 4 stroke is easy upgrade as well?
@FuturisticPast15155 ай бұрын
I have a question can you use this on a bike with coaster brakes
@atmosrepair3 жыл бұрын
With 4 stroke I like the idea of being able to stop at gas station and fill up without carrying oil around.
@SouthernCustomCC3 жыл бұрын
That is DEFINITELY a huge benefit for a lot of riders.
@jamesjones63474 жыл бұрын
Great video! what is your personal favorite between the two?
@frankopenbrier27424 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you all out power outing straight up hills uphill climbing steep same CC same sprocket big that would be killer.
@Mr.Scootini2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this applies to motor bikes but on old 2stroke motorcycles and dirt bikes you usually get non-synthetic oil with 2stroke additives. Non-synthetic makes for a cleaner burn, as in 2strokes need to burn its oil. Also fun fact: rotary’s (wankle rotary) are technically 2strokes
@thisone35193 жыл бұрын
Name of the music in the background?
@shorty48shorty2 жыл бұрын
please tell a location that that has a pull up pump that is non ethanol? .... pretty sure all pumps have some ethanol and up to 10 or 15% in summer months..... farm fuel is bulk order, not at pumps and has been for a good while....
@joshuawilcox13224 жыл бұрын
How did you get the brakes to work with the sprocket? I tried on the Hyper and the brakes wouldn't work too well and when you pressed harder they kicked the pedals ..
@SPMPchannel4 жыл бұрын
Superb video.. How far can you travel with those motors without having them to break or over heat?
@SouthernCustomCC4 жыл бұрын
Thx. With a 2 stroke, the answer varies because not everyone rides like they should and not everyone has the same gas mixture. If you have less oil in your gas mixture (like a 40:1) then your engine gets hotter a lot quicker and burns itself down much quicker as well because there is not a lot of oil in the gas to help cool and indicate your internals. So that answer could be anywhere from 7-25 miles before a cool down is needed. With a 4 stroke, you can go a lot further because the oil and lubrication is separate and the engine temperature can be regulated better. I have never had to stop before reaching a destination with a 4 stroke; so I can't give a specific milage on that. Yet, if you red line your engine for miles and miles with either engine, of course you won't be able to go as far as if you were just cruising at a steady RPM. Cruising is key for temperature regulation. Thanks for watching, and I hope you come back and check out the channel more in the future! Happy riding ✌️
@nickhersheys27064 жыл бұрын
20 miles max for a 2 stroke and 50 miles for a 4 stroke
@ghettobikelife88334 жыл бұрын
The engine temp will stabilize after around 10 mins it won’t keep getting hotter forever.. so no limit
@user-lm8fx6kc1b4 жыл бұрын
The 2stk has no fan cooling system, (cooling fins on cylinder, head are too small), it relies on free air flow, runs hot, looses power soon, the 4stk has a fan cooling system, much better.
@tauncfester30224 жыл бұрын
Actually using the recommended 20:1 will cause the engine to overheat as you run the fuel mixture too lean. 32:1 is what most forum experts recommend, but you should also look into playing around with the main jet setting as sometimes the engines are far too rich in main jet mixture. The NT carbs needs careful float level setting and adjusting the circlip on the needle valve.
@alexanderson57493 жыл бұрын
Wow the 4 stroak sounds so dull compared to the 2 stroak but I am sorta bias for 2 stroak because I have just brought one
@doggfriendly3 жыл бұрын
Are the crank arms shorter on the one bike or is that just me
@123edwardzpad2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@andonigarcia92493 жыл бұрын
Nice builds! Is a 49 cc 4 stroke good enough to also carry a passenger? Lmk any recommendations plz!🙏
@SouthernCustomCC3 жыл бұрын
I'd personally not want to put that much weight on a bike and I'd personally not want to stress that small of an engine. The yd100 might be better equipped for the torque you'd need, but a standard bike would need some upgraded parts.
@phillipmcconnell2074 жыл бұрын
My 2 stroke has a rod knock sometimes 😅
@conner56114 жыл бұрын
Could be pre ignition since 2 strokes have a ball n Bearing crank there is no way a 2 stroke will have rod knock
@nothanks29944 жыл бұрын
@@conner5611 was just about to say that or the crank bearing is bad
@phillipmcconnell2074 жыл бұрын
snattle rake just figured that out the other day. Since then problem has been fixed.
@mattfiori10202 жыл бұрын
did the hyper cruiser come with a 3 piece crank assembly or was it a one piece?
@niklastuhkanen58353 жыл бұрын
We know already that 2 stroke wins but it will be fun to see how much better is a 2stroke
@axi0n386 Жыл бұрын
Hello do you have a link for the bike that you used?