Sovol SV-06 ACE: Sovol's PRUSA Clone

[@Jerrie-Lenore]

I appreciate the easy maintenance of the older bedslinger designs. I'm happy to see Sovol giving us an updated basic platform and keeping it truly opensource.

[@jhvhest]

Problem is with sovol they mostly use chips that are difficult to update. My sovol klipperscreen is almost impossible to update. If you want to use the default apt command to update the debian system it can even brick itself. If this machine has a way to update itself, it would consider buying it.

[@gsrnwshev]

opensource is a HUGE bonus with a printer. Way too many YT celebs downplay it or dont mention it, imo. Im glad Nathan talks about it here. the easy repairability combined with modern klipper (high speed?) and touch screen, makes this attractive to me. Id like to see a comparison with a printer in the same price range

[@eatthedead1ify]

the wifi issues, with your machine at least, could simply be from the wifi wire running right next to the motor in the control box fan. Route it about the board, perhaps?

[@edevans5991]

Amazing that you're devoted enough to update the channel even after you won the Presidential election.

[@Enixious99]

Bruh😂 he doesn't even look like Trump, still funny tho

[@basementdwellR]

@@Enixious99 It's the speech. He sounds like Shane Gillis doing Trump :)

[@NathanDavidDodd]

I like the transparency with the sponsor. Shill detector readings are low... ;) . Good work Nathan. 👏

[@Liberty4Ever]

The world definitely needs a basic Klipper bed slinger that has all steel motion control components (no Delrin V rollers). Open source is double plus good. With the solid motion control supporting higher speed Klipper enabled printing, I can see getting the larger version of this to use to crank out beds full of smaller parts, with the confidence in the first layer that a bed mesh provides.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

If I were them I’d have skipped this model and just gone with the bigger one straight away

[@fromszt]

Great video! You did a fantastic job pointing out both the pros and cons. truly open-source machines are so rare these days, and that’s one of the main reasons why this one caught my attention. For users on a budget, it’s definitely worth considering. but before I pull the trigger, I can’t ignore the T1 Pro, which just came out with an insanely good price and a sleeker design. Love your work, and I’m looking forward to more!

[@FrequenciaJogos]

Considering the standard price, that is almost the same price of BambuLab A1 and Flashforge 5M.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

This price point has some serious competition

[@PhokingRadical]

I would much prefer the SV08 with its larger build volume and CoreXY kinematics - next year, after Sovol improves it. I said, "Next year, AFTER SOVOL IMPROVES IT." (you think they heard me?)

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

SV08 ACE?

[@802Garage]

But this is sooooooo much cheaper. I think the SV06 ACE Plus will be an awesome value.

[@anishnattamai8801]

​@@NathanBuildsRobots It will probably be an SVO8 ass for a bit then it will become SVO8 ace

[@PhokingRadical]

@@802Garage I agree, completely. The value is definitely there - I just want a CoreXY machine.

[@lajoyalobos2009]

​@@NathanBuildsRobots"SV08 ACE" Sovol, do you hear us? 😉 *hint hint*

[@TheNewBloodDan]

Having the mainboard side mounted like that looks super easy to work with!

[@RocktCityTim]

Thanks, Nathan. My next experiment will be to use the ACE configs on my Klipper-updated SV06 standard. The only diff that I see is the new X and Y access support beams. But, I've updated my SV06 to Drylin bearings, so I don't expect the stock supports to be problematic. Please stand by ...

[@rs3dpt]

Just SSH uninstall Obico in order to see your webcam Any way of helping me getting the Orca Slicer profiles for this printer? The files from the PEN drive don't work with Orca 2.2

[@pizzablender]

With my klipperized and rather modded Ender 3 v2 I see no upgrade in this. Would like a smaller enclosed printer though. SV-08 mini?

[@802Garage]

I'm actual very positive on this printer. I thought the SV06 was a good design, and the I thought the SV06 Plus was even better. The only thing missing was speed! Klipper solves that and improves the print quality. They also added some components from the Plus it seems to make it sturdier. While I think the SV06 ACE is a good value overall, I think the SV06 ACE Plus will be the biggest winner! Pun intended. This may be a hard sell against the A1, but open Klipper is nice, and the Plus model will have a real size advantage for the money.

[@KaloyanDobrev]

How is the bed leveling working? What kind of sensing does it use?

[@philxcskier]

Seems like a decent alternative to the mk4/mk4s.. I wonder if prusaslicer has a profile for them (if they do that kind of makes it compelling to me as a secondary/spare printer)

[@andreas.grundler]

There is no profile for the SV06 ACE yet, but there are some profiles for other Sovol printers in Prusa Slicer.

Does it do shirt ironing? (Brilliant honest review, thank you)

[@christopherismcaceas4868]

I had to go watch your previous videos to understand how were you looking different in this one :D

[@weaselbox6746]

Nice Video! And you got that perm! : o )

[@vanloggins]

at the full retail price of 299, hard pass, even at 250 I'd still pass. Now when they start showing up from Solvol on their eBay store as refurbished machines for under 200 dollars, I'd definitely consider buying one. By the time they are showing up as refurbs, there should be a good bit of support for the printer for 3d models to print to fix issues like you described for the lcd display ribbon cable, and I am sure that modders will come up with better firmware to fix shortcomings in the solvol firmware, so kudos to them for providing the source code,etc. for the printer.

[@MrBaskins2010]

another promising machine from Sovol but yet another first draft. i'll wait six months for the community to fix their mistakes

[@andreas.grundler]

Really nice review. What I particularly like is that you not only point out the problems, but also the possible reasons and how to improve the printer. Most other reviewers don't make the effort anymore.

[@gebebbebebebr]

Not sure if I like the metal guide wheels. Feels like it'd be a pain to replace them.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

They are pretty much standard parts now, it’d probably take about a 5 minutes to replace and re-tension them, same as the delrin wheels

[@Liberty4Ever]

Barring Nathan pitching the SV06 Ace off a balcony into a dumpster, you'll never need to replace any of the metal motion control components. Even in a 24/7 print farm, you'll upgrade to a newer better printer before the stainless steel parts wear enough to replace.

[@awkwardsaxon9418]

When I checked their website right after release it said 1000$ dollars again like with the sv08 release. They really shoot themselves in the foot with this. I had to recheck the price again as you mentioned it's a good deal (it is)

[@S.A.S.H.]

I don't see me ever going back to a printer that is, in and of itself, a hobby or on-going project. Printing stuff is what interests me now, so a tinkering machine isn't really in the cards for me. If it were rebuilding my Ender 5 Pro would probably be my priority. In fact there still a chance it might become a "project" at some point. Having said that, were I in the market for a project printer, or a learning platform that prints well but also responds to in-depth modding nicely, this would be way up on my list. I also might more seriously consider a larger one since I do not have a "helmet" class printer.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Yeah this printer definitely isn’t for everyone, I think you summed it up nicely

[@jeffhaas9577]

Give the community six months and all the issues will be worked out.

[@666nacirema666]

id really like to try out a couple of the newer sovol printers but they dont ship to alaska..

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

That’s odd

[@666nacirema666]

@@NathanBuildsRobots Yep especially due to the fact I can use the same shipping methods they use for other things no problem. Seems to have happened with a lot of the 3d printing companies over the last year though. Ive tried a few only to end up getting refunds with messages like "we cannot ship to your island"

[@666nacirema666]

I guess amazon is my only option now and I prefer not to use them.

[@ItsKhemChandShah]

Is sv06 Ace plus coming ?

[@AwestruckAudioHertz]

Aint no way I'd buy another SOVOL product again. Just no. I enjoy my happiness in life.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

😂

[@AwestruckAudioHertz]

@NathanBuildsRobots I spent more time trouble shooting SOVOL products then I'd ever like to admit and damn near drove me out of the hobby completely. SOVOL's product ideas are as follows: Create something with just enough features to create selling points, shill a few youtubers to say it's the best printer ever, particularly for beginners, only to have multiple complete design flaws that all massive effect the print end product or even getting an accurate first layer. Great work SOVOL.

[@crispyboy4735]

Same lol made me get a A1

[@AwestruckAudioHertz]

@@crispyboy4735 BRO I LITERALLY BOUGHT THE SAME PRINTER ONE WEEK AGO

[@StarsAtNight1]

7:41 "how nice the prints look". To me it doesn't look that nice.

[@radarmusen]

Fair review, the bias was turned down.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

If you don’t buy one you’ll regret it! Act now, supplies are limited!

[@T00LF00L]

The screeching fan could maybe be slipping on the shaft a bit

So, sovol 6ace, or ender 3 V3 (the core z one)

[@mettscientist]

V3 plus

[@325RC]

i get the same speeds form svo6 with the plus hotend, 20k accel 14min benchy allday ,cool that its klipper but the metal rails leave bad artifacts and a occasional screech from wheels. its pretty much a anycubix kobra 2 with klipper. its played out..... we want all linear rails :]

[@slartibartfass5729]

Today I can order a Bambulab A1 mini for 199 Euros, a A1 for 299, a P1S enclosed CoreXY for 599. All 3 are upgradable with a very affordable AMS too. So why should someone buy this ten years too late tinkering kit for 20 dollars less?

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Being the same price as the A1 is not doing the SV06 any favors 😵

[@instertcreativename]

The cut is... acceptable

[@joaquinmadrid3642]

I think. .. many 3d printer manufacturers only exist because of the open source community. The rating should Therefore also allways consider if this companies are giving something back to the community.

[@GrahamSanders-l8r]

'Guys shop' sent me

[@netkishi77]

It will be interesting to see the larger version

[@MumrikDK]

You took a Sovol sponsorship for your Sovol review?

[@andreas.grundler]

I've also seen this with other KZbinrs. But I think he does a good job with the review despite the sponsorship. Hardly any shilling. The bottom line for me is ‘For a $300 printer. Not bad at all. Not outstanding but not bad either’.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Yes, I have more interesting projects to work on, but if they are willing to cover the costs of video production I can fit them into my schedule.

[@eaman11]

Nathan breaks things that work.

[@owlboy6677]

Nice Thinkermachine.

[@LastZion]

Guessing we won't see K2 plus video this week😭

[@benjaminway5699]

My only criticism is that it would have been nice if the machine was making something through the video.

[@3707_here]

And there goes our “definitive source of 3d printing news”. Seems like advertising crap printers is the new standard

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Did you watch the whole video?

[@skunkprints7952]

NBR is the definitive source for 3D printing news and information!!

[@davedempsey5282]

I mean, why? I had an SV06 Plus, it was the "prusa clone" that came recommended by many influencers but had fatal issues. It used bump stop to level the x axis... but that didn't work. Sovol's american engineer sat in on a round table and admitted he broke his trying to bump level it. The sag from left to right side happened every time the printer was shut off so you needed to use two identical objects to manually level the thing. It had tool head board issues that would disconnect the bed sensor randomly, causing the head to crash into the plate and bed. It ignored it's own bed mesh too. They sold a klipper screen to take the thing to klipper, but it howled so loud at higher speeds I thought a cat was being attacked. Instead of posting fixes for those things, they just reinvent it and move on? Thanks for nothing, Sovol. I have the SV08, it's nice. My other Sovols were an SV05 (an ok unit) and the SV04 (terrible clogging and poor offset mechanisms, bad bed mesh, etc) and at this point I'm staying away from anything they make that is a cartesian. It makes not sense to get this at $299 when you can get the infimech TX for $30 more. Sovol just refuses to move forward. They are just caught in the habit of tick tock interations of the same things. I had hoped the SV08 was a new path, but I guess it is one step forward, two steps back. To make a bed slinger that is just adequate and does what it should have done all along seems silly. The goalposts have moved tremendously.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

What about the SV-07? I got one but I don’t even remember if I reviewed it 😂

[@davedempsey5282]

@@NathanBuildsRobots it went backwards on the build and used wheels to I guess keep it quieter. but it was sloppier in printing. I think it also used actual end stop switches. My thing is why sort of REMAKE the SV06? Look at what is out there and copy that. Trying to be an I3 is about 2 years too late. Be an A1 or even something new but use a better bed/magnet system, or incorportate beacon, or something. Don't just fix a bad printer. I guess.

[@timbly-machines]

The haircut drama is real, yo.

[@The_Chillguy7]

4:58 tape

[@hunt0583]

What is your favorite printer of 2024?

[@DANIELGENG-v5o]

nice haircut

[@baddan]

😂

[@gman9543]

It's the printer to get if you want a printer tinkering hobby instead of actually printing things.

[@CRIZS_CREATIONS]

Stating If your a Cheapskate this your machine. That is Pure Arrogance! You do Realise majority of the 3D Hobbyist & Enthusiast Consumer can not afford a Bambu, K1,K2, Prusa etc. Unbelievable. 50% of the 3D Printer Market consumers buy printers under $350 due to cost and affordability not everyone has cash just lying around to purchase high end or even mid range printers. I think being sent printers and spoilt by companies you've become a yuppy. Personally I think it's a nice machine and Sovol is picking up the market were Creality is leaving behind the Beginner & Hobbyist.

[@Eric_In_SF]

I’m pretty sure he said cheesesteak. Also, I would love to see the research study for your sources for this information that the majority of the 3-D obvious consumers can’t afford mid range and high-end printers also where you get the 50% from the source for that as well. I hope you’re not just spouting off random numbers just to make your argument seem valid. I think I prefer arrogance to fibbing.

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

The A1 mini, SV-06, and Ender 3 V3 SE are all under $200 (A1 mini cheats by not having free shipping)

[@CRIZS_CREATIONS]

@@NathanBuildsRobots IN the US only everywhere else in the world pricing is higher. Regardless you need to realise when you say these things your giving the impression that cheaper printers are shit and not good enough. This may not be your intentions but you are. Half the 3d printing community can not afford half the printers on the market let alone a bambu. Also I don't know were your getting bambu printers but here in Australia a Bambu A1 is $499 even with discounts and black friday sales. That in itself is out of reach for a lot of beginner and the general public. Thus the reason Sovols & the Ender 3 SE / KE, Kingroon3D, Geetech and many fill the void for those less fortunate.

[@Gabs_Labs]

Its better get the old one and put klipper, I did this to my sv06.,

[@mettscientist]

No? Even the SV07 would be a better choice if on discount. I highly doubt you can print at 600mm/s and 20k acceleration. Especially not with that plastic wheels. The build quality is just way better on this one and the early bird price is good for that specs

[@sebarsS9]

@@mettscientist What plastic wheels?

[@Gabs_Labs]

@@mettscientist I don't think a bed sling is good for very high speeds and lots of variations on tall prints. The sv06 had linear rails with LM6UU bearings with is much better the new one motion, with is closer to prusa desing which i like.

[@AwestruckAudioHertz]

His comments, "I like how they made it REALLY INEXPENSIVE TO BUILD" LOL. We know what that means.. Junk

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

I don’t think it’s junk, more of the way they minimize fastener and part count to make it very cheap to produce and assemble

[@AwestruckAudioHertz]

@@NathanBuildsRobots That slow zoom at the end says otherwise hahah :)

[@Adaks]

Sovol printers always look like toys for little kids with the ugly light blue colours they use

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Light blue and black. What colors would you prefer?

[@GonzosGizmos]

While I love your channel, you are not a modder. The fact that you said " crowsnest something" tells me you have never really built a custom printer. Many of the issues you had with this machine are indicaitve of someone who has yet to learn the nuances of klipper with fluidd/mainsail. And it's probably more like 1/4 the price of a Prusa Mk4S. It is only missing the duct that you can print, and to fix the bug on overhang speed that prusa markets as a feature.

[@anthonylong5870]

LOL Bambu on the floor, where it belongs imo

[@EnnTomi1]

the way you holding the mini just cringe me so hard

[@MoeReefs]

The extruder fans cause errors, fake linear rails, exposed faulty screen cable, bad filament run out sensor position, weird noises from the board, crazy loud fans, wireless network issues, ...... but its a SOLID MACHINE. Say good bye to your Sovol sponsorship LOL

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

None of my printers work on my office WiFi, it’s a weird network that requires a login in the browser. And the mechanical build is solid. I’m fine if the sovol sponsorship disappears. The only way to get a better review on my channel is to ship a better printer

[@MoeReefs]

@ And that’s why we love you.

[@alexk3030]

In conclusion, a piece of garbage.

[@sebarsS9]

I also hear Nero speaking like that a lot. I don't like this dismissive attitude, it doesn't help anyone. I'm completely with NBR here: It all depends on your budget and if you're willing to tweak a bit here and there. It's easy to dismiss something as "garbage" with Bambu or Prusa - or Voron - in mind. But affordability, simplicity and maintainabilty are really good selling points.

[@brunobellomunhoz]

​​@@sebarsS9Exactly what I was going to say. I'm from Brazil and my first printer was the original SV06 Plus. After some calibrations it prints very consistently for a very affordable price. Bambu labs are completely out of the price range of most people here, prusa not being any different because of import taxes. The best options we have here are Creality and Sovol IMO

[@JcsP3D]

Another pointless clone, because apparently we don't have enough of these all over the market yet. Maybe a Corexy machine, improved extruders and software to improve multi colour printing and maybe starting to look at non-planar printing.

[@AwestruckAudioHertz]

Typical SOVOL experience. Problem, more problem. Requires immense knowledge of how to dive deeply into some level of programing to fix, followed by a, "its great for beginners"

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Did I say great for beginners? Might be great printer to start with if you plan on modding.

[@AwestruckAudioHertz]

@@NathanBuildsRobots No not you, I'm referring to SOVOL themselves my friend. You were very upfront the entire time.

[@CritterRacing]

Chick haircut

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

I have girl hair?!

[@psxtuneservice]

DIY haircut

[@FailPro-g2t]

First here😅

[@gottisan6678]

Well played

[@MD-kn3lk]

Prusa is expensive, and outdated.

[@GDM1787]

Hey that’s cute, but no one cares. Now where are more review videos on the K2 Plus?