Space Engineers - Simple Outpost Defences

After suffering a number of very cunning and some quite stupid attacks on are base on the sever I thought I would share with you are solutions to dealing with the attackers in a cheap method.
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Space Engineer is like a mixture between Minecraft and Kerbal Space Program.
The main purpose of the game seems to be building a space fleet and fight/ally with the other factions. You build your ships piece by piece and the only know limit for the size of your ship is what you computer can handle.

[@elfinplatypus1341]

How to defend your base. Step 1: Add thrusters. Step 2: Lift base. Step 3: Laugh at enemy ground assault vehicles.

[@MrGermandeutsch]

That made me chuckle.

[@therealgaben5527]

Rip earth uranium

[@xenoplayspl6239]

you could also do it like this Step 1: Add thrusters. Step 2: hide the fact that your base can fly. Step 3: Lift base. Step 4: Laugh at enemy ground assault vehicles.

[@noneuno53]

for space i use the battlestar galactica jump drive protocol. when your team logs off, a set of gps programmed script is turned on. for a sensor see a enemies and ai, it just jumps. thanks for your time

[@jeffclark2869]

Aaron... You must Build additional Pylons.

[@flowasabee1586]

protoss OP

[@daedricgaming4958]

You forgot the caps lock XD

[@alterranlongbow5067]

SHUT THE FUCK UP ALDARIS I DON'T NEED MORE PYLONS

[@alterranlongbow5067]

NOT ENOUGH MINERALS YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS THAT MUST BE PLACED IN A POWER FIELD YOU REQUIRE MORE VESPENE GAS THAT MUST BE PLACED ON A VESPENE GEYSER (Starcrafts reference :3 )

[@flowasabee1586]

Alterran Longbow "we are under attack"

[@GusCraft460]

But since you can't replace terrain in survival and you can't place blocks completely into the terrain, the only survival practical defense is the trench.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Not entirely true. The mine field could just be in a tunnel you dig buy hand under the surrounding area. Same could be true for the underground turret rooms.

[@ComradeDragon1957]

And the pylons could also work,though I think it'll only work once then the next time they'll know about it and try to take them out first or something idk.

[@SamaelHellscrem]

+TheCommunistDragon51 Well, did you try to hit this things? Yoe defenetly will waste quite a lot of bullets on them and they are relativly simple to rebuild.

[@ComradeDragon1957]

SamaelHellscraem True,but they may hit the bottom with rockets or something,but i havn't tested it to be sure though.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Turrets have a range of 800m. You'd be hard pressed to even see them from nearly a klick out, much less hit them with a rocket. But I think that's the point of the game, everyone trying to out engineer each other. Every measure has a counter.

[@WhiteWeaseI]

"Server style defenses" *shows some defenses that were built via spacemaster/creative* good job.

[@thaton3guy100]

Its proof of concept

[@xBloodBoundx]

*Also says he played with a similar base design on a server in the video*

[@Ofjkk]

honestly this base' defense is so weak it makes me cringe noone would bother digging to it anyone could just straight obliterate it with a fly-by frigate

[@SashaMasonVR]

+joe botsch "Proof of concept" that can't be applied to a real situation (You just cant build mines in the ground like that in survival like, ever) isn't a good concept to begin with. +FormerTransformerKnownAsMjolnir Tons of turrets and a minefield that could straight up obliterate whatever is coming from the ground is "so weak that it makes you cringe"? Turrets are apperently no threat to you whatsoever. Guess what a fly-by frigate would use. TURRET! Also I doubt you would be able to built a frigate that would be classed a frigate with the manuverbility of a fighter.

[@Ofjkk]

a frigate can be built to be maneuverable to an extent and defences would fall anything bigger than frigate makes that base even less defended and face it noone who wants a result would attack by land, especially in vanilla also minefield is not worth the effort because there is no voxel tool in survival heavy armor doesnt care about those gatlings and there are stationary missile launchers that can be embeded so they wont be taken out too quickly (light armor doesnt are about gatlings to an extent, i'd go with blast door sections as they are cheaper and lighter than heavy armor)

[@MysteriousStranger50]

Or you could just apply the gentlemans rule: No tunnelling into bases.

[@EgorKaskader]

Welcome to Space engineers, a land where the combat pragmaticists rule the day.

[@SashaMasonVR]

That's like hosting a Minecraft Server with no mods or plugins and expecting that no one touches each others stuff. Such would work if you are playing with friends but not on a public server where everyone can hop on, cause havoc and then leave.

[@MysteriousStranger50]

***** I was assuming that you'd be playing with a group of friends.

[@SashaMasonVR]

+MysteriousStranger50 Well I was assuming that LSG was playing on a public server.

[@creepcap3031]

I would put decoys on top of the pillsrs

[@creepcap3031]

Pillars

[@MRclytus]

Do you have a server?

[@Mallchad]

We need a server survival series \o/

[@nec4480]

And "our" twice but it's whatever I guess.

[@awildtomappeared5925]

Thats probably a illegitimate game code, which means your paying 7,99 € for some one to get a hacked code for you.

Nope, it is from Bundle Stars. I just bought it twice by accident.

[@eightplusone7512]

eyyy if youve got an extra code i could use one

And I could use my money back... ;) Sorry for being annoying guys. Won't repeat this.

[@frog6124]

for tunnelers you could completely tunnel under your entire base and put turrets down there, so when they do tunnel there is an unavoidable deadzone where they have to fight through turrets

[@Pintroll300]

A fun way to sneakily attack large factions on a server is to "kidnap" a drone or unmanned rover that belongs to them, then grinding everything down except the antennae and reactors, so that it still broadcasts as friendly to its owners. Once thats done, attach the thing to a non-broadcasting ship using landing gear or merge blocks, and if you're lucky, the functional antennae should fool the faction long enough for you to get within a firing range that will cause maximum damage.

[@fenn7437]

Hey LSG You remember that sniper in the bush, right? that is something that you need to figure out how to defend against! That could take out your turrets

[@tinyprince]

1. Build in the open. 2. The turrets will target it.

[@valtteriluoma-aho]

Yeah, it would also be able to go through the armor and destroy the reactors.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Build walls. If you can see over the wall, the snipers can see you.

[@kris220b]

well its not vanilla so its not on all servers

[@kris220b]

you know there is a reason why static defences are useless in modern war

[@franzrath7249]

"simple" got me, you're the best xD.

[@Zamolxes77]

Rommel's asparagus !!! In ww2 was used to defend the beaches of Normandy and cut open the bellies of the landing craft. You adapted it and used it as a fighter defense, absolutely awesome !!! The weakness to your base might be to hover vehicles, you know, tanks that don't exactly fly like a fighter (Rommel asparagus won't affect them) but don't crawl on the ground either, so mines won't get them. Its just a suggestion though, I haven't played Space Engineers on the ground much, my PC can't take it until they optimize it a bit.

[@imp6808]

"if will hit them at any velocity it will tear through there armour" hits at 0.1 m/s *explodes*

[@MrEarlSwift]

ive found the best way to defend a base is to keep it mobile, a sandcrawler with all the things a base would normally need with outrider buggies and anti air turret point defence gets the job done,basically like a Rugged, more functional version of the daybreak you covered in another vid. if someone finds and attacks you, you can just, well, move after the initial wave, cant tunnel under a vehicle if it moves to a new location every so often. you can even add the anti-fighter poles to the roof of it, as well as add ablative skirt armor to the crawler to deflect kamikaze strikes from fighters. I like it in survival because you can constantly add to the beast using the welded on blocks from attackers's vehicles, usually ending up like a Frankenstein fort on wheels.

[@orionblackstorm7926]

The poles seem extremely effective against small fighters in large quantities, simply because you need to fly in a straight line to avoid them, you don't wanna risk being destroyed by drifting and that allows turrets to hit you. And although ranged weapons are an easy counter, range can counter pretty much everything

[@rage_quit7735]

That pilot crash was magestic.

[@tommygunengineer9184]

Suggested improvements: 1 - More pylons. 2 - Pylons need to reach further into the sky. 3 - I personally would raise that base by at least 5 or 6 blocks and space out the blocks that connect to the ground, having a warhead at the very bottom of each block, but dug in so that players cannot see it. That way, if a player would like my base to collapse, they're going to have to take care of those support blocks in 10 different places before my building would collapse and even then, they're going to be blown up by the explosives if they try. 4 - Include more turrets on the under side of the base if you do raise it. 5 - I don't see any heavy defences (rockets, cannons etc) only regular turrets. You might want to think about placing those. 6 - neither do I see any lights that might come in handy at night. If the enemy is an AI, you might want to think about making enemy ships more visible, especially if you wish to shoot them yourself. If the enemy is a player you might want to blind them to disorient them even more AND make them more visible.

[@2xghostx2]

Interesting ideas arron nice work

[@NordicSkullCrusher]

thats the coolest ground base i have ever seen

[@solk.posner7201]

Genious ideas, thanks. Also I know lots of people are asking but it would be cool if you make videos playing in servers like that.

[@CM-NightDK]

The Pylons are actually more usefull to force the enemy to fly in a certain pattern rather than actually make them ram into it, sure it will keep big ships out but only small ships actually do close air strikes, by keeping them in line with the turrets i would force the fighter or the close air support to be constantly in the unevadable fire from machine gun turrets, and more, the pylons may pose as a defence againist long range base striker missiles.

[@matthewdaynes3746]

Very nice ideas, would love to actually try and get paste some of these xD

[@NeonDripKitty]

Uses no-clip to make survival defenses. Really Arron -_-

[@StubsMalone]

I know, I was thinking that using creation tools to make defenses is kind of... well useless in a survival situation. But the basic idea is still sound. Just would require a lot more mining of tunnels and a bit more of a sloppy looking design.

[@SashaMasonVR]

Pretty much everything that is underground like that wouldn't work. I mean, drilling squares in the ground and placing turrets inside the ground would sorta work if you manage to supply it with power but how on earth are you going to place mines inside the ground?

[@therealgaben5527]

Mason of Germany the only way is to use a glitch that sometimes happens when you fall through the earth but that needs a lot of Luck especially if your on a no jet pack server

[@Bordbraintt]

Great video kept up the good work buy please post more videos

[@epicburito1232]

do a massive henry class warship!

[@SashaMasonVR]

Honestly if I would fly that close to the enemy base with a fighter than I would be dead even without your construction. I would simply be about 700m away and fire at your base and your defenses could barly do anything. EDIT: That is the real issue with having turrets as defenses. Unless you have scatterguns, they are dodgeable. Obviously it is harder on a planet than in space but, even if you would make those towers super tall, wouldn't people be able to slowly but surly blast those away? The best defense is concealment. They shall never know you are there or they will find a way to get you. Unless you have turrets with a slight deviation in the shots and a range above 800 meters, because the fighters weapons are 800m in range.

[@kris220b]

1, one could just hover above the pillars and take out the turrets from there 2, walls, well everyone has a darn jetpack 3, trenchs, well everyone has a darn jetpack 4, a minefield is 1 use only, you cant repair the ground in survial, having grinders underground how ever, it kills anything on the surface, and comes with the added bonus of collecting the materials 5, there was at least 2 direct ways under the base without hitting any of those turret caves, either there needs to be more in a overlapping pattern, or 1 big cave 6, the pillars could be knocked out just by shooting the buttom blocks

[@Thelothuo]

+kris220b Make it a station and now it's immovable. Game logic is hilarious.

[@kris220b]

Thelothuo that depends on world settings

[@SashaMasonVR]

About the jetpack, did you forget about the turrets? Walls and trenches are supposed to be used against vehicles which can not be stopped with just a few bullets. Every player who is flying around with a jetpack will get killed like a fly when he gets just a tiny bit too close, and walls prevent an instant access. Minefield, well nice idea and the warheads are extremly powerful, but once the hole in the ground exists, you would need to build a platform so that vehicles could still move over it. The pillars are a nice idea but as you said, people would simply shoot them. Though then it would have the same effect as spreading out the AT-mines in Battlefield. You force the enemy to a stop until he dealt with the obstacles. You could then use the additional time to get rid of him before he reaches you. Nonetheless, you only slow him down at best and you need extremly tall pillars to defend your base. And with that much stuff you literally scream "ATTACK HERE" to anyone passing by because they see all those pillars and go investigating.

[@kris220b]

***** if you keep moving and carry enough H tanks with you dogeing turrets is not that hard really and about the whole pillars buying you tiime, well what if the attacker is in a different timezone and your sleeping, pretty sure that gives the attacker enough time to remove what needs to be removed

[@Hendlton]

That's one thing I absolutely hate about stuff like this and I have no idea how to fix it. I used to play on faction servers in Minecraft and build really good bases but given enough time (while I'm not on the server), people would always find a way in. Same with this, it's all really cool but starting over every day or hoping that a miracle happened and no one saw your base while you were offline isn't any fun. There's no defense you can build that can't be overcome with enough time.

[@aethertech]

I am currently in the process of creating (in creative) a random in-mountain mega- base/bunk sort of build - which I have been gearing towards defensive measures from strictly Earthly terms (and not SEs semi-realistic physics and mechanics). But, I think I'm going to add some underground defenses now, as well as completely restructure the parts of the base with spaced armor that have more violent intruder repulsing qualities.

[@detaildevil6544]

1: Build your base underground 2: Put some sensors around it (underground) 3: Hide the entrance well 4: Profit

[@thehatred94]

the solution about the litle trap hole with turrets underneeth is good also as the trenchs, but i think the best would be to just wholefully dig all around under the base, like a giant cave, filled with drones and turrets

[@Didymus-vz6uy]

You could make the trench a lot larger, and put the minefield outside of it. That would give you artificial high ground, a larger area with less cover for enemies, allow for more time in the minefield warning system, and protect more so against tunnelers.

[@jedpeg_6412]

I live by the rule of: if it looks stupid but works it isn't stupid.

[@SashaMasonVR]

Except the pillars don't work, the mines have a big downside (but they sure as fuck will suprise anyone trying to dig) and if the squares with the turrets will actually work, eeehh.

[@Marxman-bi5yu]

What are you doing out of the salt mines?

[@jedpeg_6412]

***** Not just in SE but in other games aswell...

[@jedpeg_6412]

***** If it looks stupid and doesn't work then don't use it/do it.

[@joshjenkins3815]

Awesome guys. love it! but you should do something with the mac cannon mod

[@ravager0292]

id love to see some recorded stuff from the server you guys always play on

[@shannondilley744]

I thought it was good. bravo!

[@ryankaye5539]

Be nice to see some kind of War going on between multiple factions

[@central_core8178]

You should turn this into a series

[@highground2320]

The way in which Arron is using the Pylons in this case is not that effective. However when first starting out with a Planetary Lander, build a Pylon with an interior turret on top of it. This will give you some basic defense against people sneaking up on you as you'll hear the weapons fire and know something is up. Plus at a later date if you are near a area that has a lot of trees, you can build Pylons near trees and hide interior turrets in the trees. This tactic drives people nuts!

[@ameteuraspirant]

hell I need to binge all of this. this game looks amazing but I can never get into it because all the mp servers look so empty.

[@AresWalker8]

Since voxel obects that get split stay one entity you could use tonnes of warheads to blast a crater but leaving the inner territory intact and build an underground floating base. deffences from everything unless some one is so devoted to taking you down that they use all their weapons on you.

[@impguardwarhamer]

Those pylons are actually both a good idea and IMO look pretty good

[@lordashcroft6938]

Communist_Penguin it's only a good idea if they are on outside of you're base and act as tank triss or used as barb wire defence you need dedicated aa guns with 360 view of sight or flank to effectively get rid of air.

[@barnabykeen8131]

I think those pilots actually look pretty damn cool

[@elfinplatypus1341]

I think that a well coordinated ground assault can deal with almost any defence. Do some good recon, use fast and agile troop carrier trucks or even dropships and use a strong enough gunship for CAS and you're almost guaranteed to have at least some guys make it through the defences.

[@austin503]

That's the common mistake of "My team is filled with the only competent people on the internet"

[@jimmybobbertjoseph4370]

To add onto the mines, why don’t you make multiple blow up in a verticals column to make the creator used for cover a ditch that no ground vehicles or people can pass through. As it would be difficult to navigate, you can also set it to where it’s on 3 sides of your base if you have an entrance and lay most of the weaponry there.

[@zottestudios]

Hi Arron, love the multiplayer oriented videos. Do you think I could get a closer look at those vehicles you blew up in the video? I was hoping you could share some tips on how to build more effective wheeled vehicles that are good for transport in multiplayer. One problem I've encountered a lot is the wheels falling off randomly. Maybe pistons can be used as car jacks? either way, thanks and have a nice day.

[@masterSageHarpuia]

I feel like the Pylons really serve no real purpose, wouldn't the ground turrets likely cut through them if an enemy got close enough. I also don't think anyone would actually attack a base like that. The turrets would likely be enough deterrent for them to try getting that close. I think what you really need to be scared of are bombing raids from high above your turrets' range. I wonder if you could build self sustaining turrets platforms that float above your base with atmospheric thrusters and solar panels. You would then just space those out to their max range a good distance above your base. If a bomber that doesn't have close range weapons tries flying through there they might get hit and if they take a fighter in to clear the platforms, you would then be alerted of their presence and could take a fighter out to shoot them down.

[@CM-NightDK]

Scattered pylons like the ones shown have really limited use, pylons in line with turret towers may force their aircraft to take fire without the possibility of evasion

[@aaronkeith2644]

You know whats even better than killing? Capturing

[@SamaelHellscrem]

You cold make a sensor arey that detacts players underground :) Maybe a simple alarm would scare most people of ^^

[@dont_give_a_flying_f]

The best base is one way underground. A cavern surrounded by a wall then rock then a minefield. I mean way underground. With a tunnel connecting to a hidden shuttlebay. Shuttlebay with a door and tunnel but the end of the tunnel isn't finished. Just needs a missile or two to open it. And that's ur escape

[@Michael-bi6nc]

the pillions with the Zeppelin where from ww2, ww1 planes weren't widely used for attacks, rather more for recon

[@roelbakker90]

I always like to designate Henry as a 'Light Recon Fighter'

[@cassiusfaux]

Well, you are immune to ground attacks due to the current terrain issues. However that also means your own land vehicles will be disabled upon it.

[@Reilly-Maresca]

I'm gonna get back into LSG

[@vantave9946]

You could also put decoys on the pilons.

[@Food24112]

I wish you showed more simulations!!!

[@cobrastancult3241]

TThis is sick, what server are you guys normally playing on?

[@tyriaelsoban8909]

@5:00 Aaron's adventures through the windowglass ...

[@mattford3627]

I was wondering if you had any ideas for defense against orbital bombardment of any kind like Warheads or even just heavy stuff rocks Etc

[@CptFUBAR]

What about having a large "minefield" of polls, that only spring up when enemy ships are in the area (extra points if they can stay down, if a friendly ship is above them). you can stick them to a chain of pistons that go deep underground. I don't know how deep you'd have to go w/pistons to be able to spring up a field of spikes, quickly and safely, (yeah, with pistons...) but then you'd be able to spear them while they're halfway though the field.

[@Techischannel]

Its way easier to just dig a long Tunnel inside a Mountain and after some Corners and a few but good placed Turrets have your base. Its Cheap, easy ... and in all honesty if you dont be super obvious about it the best defence there is. (Maybe build a Landmark somewhere near from where you can locate your base.)

[@Cona-vh7vi]

Underground turrets, underground bombs w/ sensors, and lots of tall poles... 6 and a half minute video for that

[@567Archie]

I was wondering if you could make a vehicle that could lay a load of logs or rods into the trench to form a make shift path over the trench, like what the british used in ww1 and ww2 to clear anti tank ditches or trenches. I think it would be really cool, or if you could make it an operating system so it can be added to vehicles like a field modification instead of being its own vehicle. Think that would be a really cool thing to make.

[@fakshen1973]

I'd just capture a Mining Hauler or a Mine Layer and remote it into your base from above. End of base. Any surviving turrets would just exhaust themselves on the debris.

[@levikarkiainen331]

You should use this. Someone has to lay siege to the base and get crap... it would be pretty damned cool.

[@BelgianDneprGuy2003]

now i have some survival base inspiration.when i have my new computer i am starting in creative and play ALL the rest in survival.due all my other bases are just like a box or a underground base or a mountain base.

[@thebigpotate]

If you just dig out the entire bottom instead of having little cubes you can use a couple turrets and basically make it pointless to dig under depending how deep it is

[@mattsthebat8525]

I would put turrets on top of the pillars, just for extra difficulty. BTW how did u put the mines in the ground? Just paste em into the ground?

[@optionalcoast7478]

you should make a video of all the Henry variants

[@dont_give_a_flying_f]

Trenches work for cyberdogs too!

[@matija9041]

You should try building a ship that just leaves behind small outposts with defences and solar panels

[@Fixxate]

INSTEAD OF BALLOONS THERE ARE GIANT STICKS GENIUS

[@Kareszkoma]

I never seen ANYONE to make a succesful drilling. They usually jam or explode. Inbuilt Space Engineers protection. Also, it takes a lot of time.

[@pomcsi]

So, can you explain how do you use voxel hands to build underground in survival PVP? Or how is this base protected from unloading a full cargo of ore from 1km above? Its very nice and fancy, but seems very pointless.

[@Life-tastic]

solution to any pesky base for me. step one. Construct a Icarus class frigate. step two. load said frigate with a single seat surrounded by a layer of armor and a single gyroscope with minimum thrusters. step three. proceed to drop a frigate on top of the base with the term "universe's most high speed face plant ever" being screamed at the top of your lungs. step four. respawn when your armored flight seat finally fails and you get turned into paste. step five. PROFIT!!!

[@Rogueheeroskyking]

What about carriers and fighter say some one enter you ship base e.g. and stole a fighter or carrier I had this problem on a sever is it possible to recover system there e.g

[@austinlhampton]

what about using stone from space to bombard bases it's cheap and easy to set up would it be effective though

[@leeroycrankens4197]

i would love to see footage from this server you are on

[@zawesfcaswe1641]

What if you try putting sensors on the bottom of your base that triggers an alarm if it detects something?

[@curtisbrown547]

ehhh.. the best kind of planet side base for pvp is to drill 3 or 4 kilometers deep and make a massive ant farm. it should be relatively difficult for most players to even effectively FIND a base that deep let alone actually figuring out how to attack it in a effective and timely manner. you could set up an orbital bombardment station to drill down but by the time it takes most bases should have either hidden all their valuables/ spirited them away or have launched a effective counter/ built up more defenses. the only viable attack methods then become tunneling down to fight in the foreign and unfamiliar mazes filled with turrets murder holes and devious traps. this type of base is easy to expand as you simply drill out more area and becomes exponentially more difficult to defeat the larger and more expansive your network of tunnels and rooms becomes

[@SirPeacemaker]

How did you make those trenches like that? Its nice straight good looking. I dont think its possible to do that with a drill. Or is it?

[@sammy094sbiggestfan2]

Creative mode, he just uses the terrain tools.

[@alibee4421]

6:21 Aaron.exe has stopped working!

[@weak1ings]

How do you defend against orbital bombardment (like very high velocity heavy armor blocks)

[@onuadhain7399]

Hope you've reached space and found a good asteroid before the enemies reach space.

[@monarchsub]

It seems staying underground is the best option period unless you are really ballsy and and want the added danger! For the fun of course its not much fun to hide! But it's not much fun to be totally obliterated by a troll or someone that has better gear either!

[@mithridates-bw7mj]

the mine field would be great for a temporary base

[@b26t4]

good defense but it seems very expensive considering pcu limit. best ting you can do is hide in the void of space.

[@TheCooldudeG]

One thing that I wanted to defend from is orbital bombardment. Ships firing on your base from space. how would one defend themselves from such a attack?

[@willgunn8476]

Micro Henry would get slaughterd by the machine turrets

[@airltu2403]

well there are 2 flaws 1. you can dig deaper adn your turent,trench and those cubes are useles 2. it rather have patroling drones w a complex chasing sistem so ppl cant escape

[@SashaMasonVR]

People will always be able to escape because they can out-smart AI. Always. The drones would need to be able to fly at full speed and catch up to someone who is also going at full speed. Also, if said drones would chase the player, then there would be less to none defending the base right? What if someone attacks at that very moment? What if the person being chased lures the drones into a trap where they are being engaged by planetary defenses? Unless you build a big ship, small drones can't withstand enough to be able to fight the enemy without turret support.

[@jacktheoburley]

has anyone tried a moat system to capture Cyberhounds / can they do voxel damage? cheers

[@arandomperson3952]

Id love to see you playing on a pvp server. There is a lack of good space engineers pvp content :(

[@drdegutrez8458]

w4stedspace's final lotus should easily take that base out.

[@Kav.]

Those poles also stop larger ships landing.

[@walkakaloi4984]

or recon the area get a grid and sub orbitally bomb the place then drop in your troops or vehicles..if you had enough players in your faction and it was developed enough

[@koolerpure]

the only thing that bugs me about multiplayer. someone is always bent on causing havoc on your hard work. if people could work together in one big ship if this game gets optimized any time soon, this game would be amazing

[@GooberGamer]

Space Engineers - the better No Man's Sky before No Man's Sky was even released.

[@almightyeragon5265]

Its a good design for fighters and ground forces, but your turrets are the only defense against a bombing run

[@SashaMasonVR]

It's actually bad against fighters. The pillars are way too low. So low that any fighter coming THIS close to the turrets to be able to hit the pillars would be destroyed by the mad amount of turrets long before it reached said pillars. I would attempt to fly circles around the base at about 700m-800m. Since my weapon range is the same as the turrets weapon range all I need to do is stay just at the edge of the distance and fire missiles at it.

[@matsveritas2055]

How do you defend against automated drop pods?

[@ricardoronaldo837]

couldnt somebody just shoot the pillars causing them to collapse into your own base, and possibly damage the buildings?

[@hashtagrex]

light damage, but good point. although it would be really difficult to shoot those pylons

[@ricardoronaldo837]

also it seemed that they should be closer together because when he flew micro henry around, it looked like he was trying to crash and failed until he rammed straight into one

[@EgorKaskader]

Yep, and on top of that, a lot of fighters CAn navigate through them, but you'd have to be new to the game to even bother coming THIS close to turrets, where they will just shoot you down. But seeing as a custom turret with a camera can aim very accurately if built right and zoom in, or some a-hole can just rocket their base. The cables he referred to? They were deployed at night and were almost invisible. Meanwhile SE, blocks all but GLOW. Also, these ground tricks + SE LOD = MASSIVE crater if you're watching from 3-4 Km away. Now your base is super-visible. Enjoy.

[@Hendlton]

Well, those cables worked during the day too but they were made to protect from bombers that wouldn't be able to hit the target if they flew above a few thousand feet. Now that we have the technology that makes it so planes don't have to basically be on top of the target to hit it, we've stopped using the cables because they're basically useless. It's even worse in SE because you can easily bomb someone from orbit.

[@EgorKaskader]

Hendlton Also true, but I was speaking about the situations when they'd be effective against fighters.

[@ChineseSweatShoppe]

Have you ever tried projector cloaking for bases?