Space marine 2: everything you could ever want to know about the assault class from a meta perpescti

[@TannerLindberg]

fun fact this class was and still is pretty much the only time i actually have fun playing the game. but every time i play it i just say DAM i wish everything hit 30 to 50% harder People are telling me im wrong about the weapon dmg ill make a video tomorrow and see if its true at all.

[@Marzellus1991]

I concur, but until its better im leaving it at lvl 14 😂😂😂

[@myonlyfriendtheend4958]

It is suffering God I need damage

[@Marzellus1991]

@@myonlyfriendtheend4958 I concur. I just main sniper at this point and chill. Game barely works anyway

[@SneedRemembrancer]

I love having power weaponry feel like using a butter knife

[@Marzellus1991]

@@SneedRemembrancer lol

[@perry3366]

1st person in the world to max out all classes. Last person in the world to talk about the ogryn build

[@clevergoblin1714]

its insane that two of the melee classes in a combat system that incentivizes melee.. they're not meant to be played in melee. We need a massive overhaul for Melee in general, Block is useless, Balance is inferior, Fencing is the only option. Thunder Hammer and Power Sword should not be an underwhelming option compared to a fucking chainsword

[@SneedRemembrancer]

I like that a bolt pistol hits as hard as the best powersword You know a powersword a weapon that is supposed to effortlessly cleave though most things

[@alexsitaras6508]

Yeah, the powersword that, when made for and used by a normal human can chop an armored ogre in half, but looks worse than the space marine version? Come on man.

[@LukasEhrlich]

@@alexsitaras6508 It's even funnier when the weaker versions of the power sword take like two or three hits to kill a trash enemy, but when that same enemy tries to jump on you and you perform that perfect parry it is suddenly a one hit kill lol. Also, space marines are inhumanly strong killing machines with post human reaction times and reflexes, and suddenly they can't swing a literal metal stick which is only there to house the energy field that actually does the killing more quickly. Melee combat really needs an overhaul, because in comparison to ranged, it just sucks. Sure, good players will make do with it, but they will always be even more effective with a melta.

[@avalokiteshvara113]

Definitely feels like they just tossed the everything together for all classes except heavy and tact

[@SneedRemembrancer]

What crack were the devs on when they thought a bolt pistol should hit harder than a fucking thunder hammer

[@lionelfriedrich901]

I read on discord that Damage is actually different from weapon to weapon (10 on thunder hammer is different from 10 on bolt pistol)

[@SneedRemembrancer]

@@lionelfriedrich901 what a utterly insane system Oh comparing damage and other stats compared to other weapons nah they all have stats only relevant to each weapon so it’s all utterly worthless information other than white weapons bad gold weapons good

[@prich0382]

@@lionelfriedrich901 This is correct, the damage numbers shown can only be compared same weapon class to same weapon class and not to different weapons. So stupid, hope someone will work out true damage numbers and make a mod for it

[@WadeGLouis]

Am I in the good timeline where Tanner unlocks his full big brain potential? I see you trying to be less abrasive these last few vids, and I'd like to say that its a really good look. Well done, bro. I really mean it, 0 sarcasm!

[@jaredrobertson7942]

Agreed! It's nice. it makes it more enjoyable to take in the info when it doesn't sound like the guy hates me, lol

[@KenobiStark1]

Thunder Hammer looks sick as fuck when you are charging it, just wish I could get one attack off with it haha. I’m lucky I get those double slams but damn, on ruthless there’s so much enemies in the damn mob.

[@NickWebb-lc6ry]

It is not about getting the charge slam off! That will happen, you just continue to jump ground slam, start the charge immediately after, and during the charge up nail any dodge or parry incoming! ONLY if nothing comes then unleash the AOE BOMB drop. The class is about nimble defense and nailing over 90% of your dodges and parries even when using the hammer.

[@J.B.1982]

I’d love to know the play test process this game went through. The more I play and watch these videos the more bewildered, annoyed, and disappointed I get. The damage balance is garbage and that’s not even hyperbole. I can understand perks not being dialed in well but basic combat and damage?

[@OrAngelicBlitz8633]

Im so glad that there's varrying opinions on this class. It's quite interesting!

[@Confusion-xf1hk]

The honest to god best melee answer to a horde is parrying the grunts attacking for the instant kill. You won’t take damage that way at least.

[@corvidcorax]

It really is since it safely kills/knocksback multiple gaunts at the same time, not just one.

[@obsidiansky203]

This class against tyranids is mid to okay, meanwhile chaos forces shove you around taking your lunch money and shooting spit balls at you, wish the perks actually made using melee the viable option

[@corvidcorax]

To be fair, Tyranids are a joke compared to chaos so anything is decent against them. Ruthless Tyranid missions are farm maps while Chaos missions can still be a threat even with max level classes.

[@obsidiansky203]

@@corvidcorax true, literally had a round earlier today where I was playing assault and I just got bullied by some rubric flamers and a few of the goat dudes, all be it I wasn't fully leveled and on the 3rd difficulty

[@sydious_s_snake]

What a fucking mistake it was to level assault to 25 first when the game launched, it's pitiful they're not buffing anything melee either even just for assault, but they have the gall to say gun strikes are risk reward

[@obsidiansky203]

@@sydious_s_snake pretty much, the only reward (only if it kills) gives you an armor charge, which half the time gets slapped away right after I'm free from the animation

[@avalokiteshvara113]

The risk: get hit, the reward: get hit

[@celto107]

The fact thunderhammer does so little damage makes zero sense to me

[@yungeenace4kt166]

Doesn’t the chainssword damage version do more

[@corvidcorax]

They designed thunder hammer to be small damage AoE. In reality, power sword's cleave stance already does that (and better) so thunder hammer should just straight up be a melee nuke instead.

[@corvidcorax]

​@@yungeenace4kt166 Chainsword will do more damage than an uncharged thunderhammer purely because it swings faster.

[@mickthick6170]

With regards to the first signature perk, I legitimately feel like the time it takes for the dash animation to finish is longer than the reload for the fuckin bolt pistol, if not literally the same speed that first signature is a literal do nothing perk

[@marcelo7431]

3sec is all i needed from this man thats what im talking about no bullshit i dont even play assault

[@TheDeadEyeX]

The damage numbers for the weapons is a way to compare only within the class. They do not translate to other weapons.

[@TannerLindberg]

wrong

[@n1ght7ngale]

perpescti

[@TannerLindberg]

100 letter title limit :(

[@unholyarthur1]

Squad gun strike is the better perk imo, enable finisher on majoris from 3 gun strikes to 2 for the whole team. Also the +ground pound damage but +preparation time (without +damage -aoe perk) is also pretty good. Kill most adds when use and you can just not charge it up if it's not safe to do so. I treat Assault as a pistol class, not melee. This is my favorite class, not the best but I love it. From assault main and enjoyer.

[@meejmuas8686]

When attacking ranged majoris, using pistol doesnt stop them from shooting you but using a melee attack on them will. Sprint, melee attack, charged melee attack will suppress ranged majoris better than trading shots with it

[@TannerLindberg]

run into the horde to push past them to run to the gunner elite to hit them?????? does it need to be explained why that is not a good idea

[@clevergoblin1714]

@@TannerLindberg "Jump Pack over the horde" will likely be the retort. Even though the ranged Majoris can sometimes be halfway across the map obliterating you with the ranged pellets, and you cannot jump pack far enough

[@Rubersmoon]

Numbers on the "Damage" stat don't translate directly between weapons

[@clevergoblin1714]

are you sure?

[@TannerLindberg]

everytime i have tested this in game yes they do.

[@funkinstein2173]

@@TannerLindberg One swing of the hammer definitely hits harder than one shot of the heavy bolt pistol. I've spent a lot of time testing this. That being said, it's not a massive difference to justify sitting in melee. A massive buff is needed for melee damage since the Space Marines in this game apparently wear armor made out of cardboard.

[@TannerLindberg]

one shot from the bolt pistol one taps minoris to the head. one swing of the hammer does not. two shots to the body to kill minoris depending on the combo it takes 2 to 3 hits from the hammer to kill them. seems like the damage numbers are the same to me

[@clevergoblin1714]

@@funkinstein2173 Maybe you just think the hammer does more because of a placebo and you think it does better because it obviously should. it's a fucking hammer.

[@sword_racer185]

Perfect

[@joanromba6972]

Best melee class in the game!

[@Bopiz787]

lol bulwark is better at melee by simply not attacking and just parrying

[@SneedRemembrancer]

Yeah bulwark is way better at sustaining himself and staying in melee Mainly because he has a full heal on command and can put down shock fields that kill all trash by just playing the class

[@joanromba6972]

@@SneedRemembrancer Bulwalk doesn't have thunder hammer. As assault, I was one shotting hordes with my thunder hammer swing, and with my constantly refreshing jet pack jumping around to save my buddies and landing on elites for instant executions.

[@SneedRemembrancer]

@@joanromba6972 I parry once and I put down a shock field that kills the horde for me and stunk locks elites into a coma Then I intentionally get my armour broken to get another shock field If I get into any danger I put down a batter that I full heal with a single over charged plasma pistol shot Assault has none of these things

[@darthode]

This comment is bait 😂

[@lv1543]

i finished the campaign solo yesterday and i did not encounter any "class" customization. is this another game mode?

[@darthode]

Operations mode

[@beeess9818]

would u say the plasma pistol is better or the heavy bolt

[@ICCUWANSIUT]

Heavy bolt is better Imo plasma is better for Bulwark because temp hp.

[@milke7252]

are you sure thats how dmg stats work? some ppl on youtube are saying that the dmg stat is relative to other weapons in that class, so 11dmg from Bolt isnt the same as 11dmg from TH

[@clevergoblin1714]

Those people don't know what they're talking about then.

[@ICCUWANSIUT]

@@clevergoblin1714 I mean doesn't sound like anyone knows exactly how the dmg stats work If your so confident link the sauce lol

[@Laranga01]

Why shouldn't you use the +50% quick shot with the +25% damage bonus from dodge and 15% damage bonus to gun ? You dismissed the use of the 3rd skill because few M1 in the head is equal to a quick shot. I disagree. I would hardly believe from a math point or even my own experience that the majoris ennemies take the same amount of damage from a buffed dodged gun strike vs few M1.

[@Bopiz787]

first

[@izzydarkhart4144]

I mean, the class is struggling, but it is not this bad, lol. I guess if you are completely bad at the game mechanics and landing in the middle of a group and blindly swinging. Skill goes a far way. It is not that hard to use dodge and time your attacks, and you are making it seem like it is impossible

[@alexandreparent5754]

All I hear here is cope. Even if you do all of those things you will have at best 1/3 of the Heavies or tactical damage. You are at a defensive disadvantage because you take more dmg than the avg by far but also at an offensive disadvantage because its DPS is horrid. It is by far the worst class. Assaults are always the one's with almost no HP and very few damage to show for. I fail to have an Assault actually outputing meaninful damage output. Also they are useless against flying enemies and bosses on top of it. Class is struggling bruv. All these weaknesses with no reward to show for it

[@miles6120]

Assault is the hardest to use but easily the most fun. The class isn’t really good until it’s maxed out, and even then it’s really situational every other class is just overall better. But man , being able to spam jet pack slam because I get 10% cooldown reduction per kill goes absolutely crazy man. Damage for days if there’s tons of enemies.

[@avalokiteshvara113]

Its not impossible but, is bad game design