Fixing the $6K LS430's WORST Problem

[@jobeppe]

Guys, when you change the rotors ALWAYS clean the rust from the hub, it should be super smooth. Put some antiseize too. If the hub is rusty the rotor could cause vibrations and weird things can happen

[@mihalym.6876]

Could not agree any more. Additionally, in case of vibration problems worth to check the hubs running by a micrometer. Sometimes the hub has some wigle, ask Lexus about the tolerance. But if you have more than .05 - .08mm than definitely worth to check further. Anyway after a couple of thousand miles the truth will be unfold: if the vibration is occure again than it is not coming from the disc and the pads.

[@Mark-wp4lw]

That and clean the packing oil off of the rotor. I'm sure you guys did this but a bunch of noobs will watch this video, put on a new rotor straight from the box and contaminate their pads, guaranteed.

[@lunarshteve]

i was thinking the exact same thing, as an audi tech i would get a right telling off if i didnt get them as clean as i can, especially considering it would take them like an extra 1 min, it must be an american thing :D

[@itshot7501]

@@lunarshteve aren't they Canadian?

[@angeleruiz9650]

O​@@mihalym.6876

[@BeardedCarBuddy]

I did enjoy the old school SA of showing every technical step, but I think this is a better video style for the masses. Quicker music transitions still show a good amount of details. Well done boys.

[@walterharris6191]

Yea idk more for the masses seem less specialized you know? I felt like SA was more like the grad classes of KZbin but now they kinda feel like gen ed. And I know more people more money but they seem to be blending in more and idk how I feel about it 😕

[@BeardedCarBuddy]

@@walterharris6191 Yes, totally can see your point and agree. However, I am betting the cars they build will still be at that master class level.

[@lahey5826]

I like that they still explain enough

[@RubenHaeck]

Rusty wheel hub/disc mating plate can give enough slinging in the brake disc to make it vibrate. Had the problem on two cars also. Love the build!

[@MindUrBiznss]

Yeah, is a very common oversight for the home-gamer. Leads to pulsation and come backs at shops. I hope this was cleaned up off camera but seeing rust through rotor around the studs isn't a good sign.

[@jamest5149]

You should clean your hub matting surfaces up so they are spotless, all that corrosion can cause brake wobble and make it hard to get the disc’s off. Use a wire wheel and flap wheel on the hubs, when clean use some Permatex zinc anti seize or ceramic grease between the hub and the disc and between the disc and the wheel. 👍

[@davidchoy9560]

It's great you guys are testing the suspension and brakes right after install. Helps to show the progress that's being made with the build. Looking forward to seeing more.

[@james18114]

The problems you describe are symptomatic of bad front lower control arm bushings. I had the shake under braking on my LS430 and it was resolved by new bushings. They are oil filled and if cracks form the oil leaks out and give you the symptoms you describe. You can see them from under the car without having to take anything off.

[@bandwagon240]

Agreed, my 97 LS had the beginnings of this issue at 173k miles, fixed it right up.

[@speedacademy]

We have new bushings for the lower control arms being installed soon!

[@smksukcdc]

Biggest problem with this sport sedan battle is that.... one needs to be turned into a sports sedan first! Can't wait to see how it's done though, gonna be an epic journey for sure.

[@d1sturb3d119]

Slap spoiler, remove doors! RACE CAR :P In all seriousness though that thing would need a significant diet plus some stiff coilovers to be potent. Car can be quick if done right. Not fast. :P

[@NuclearPineapple]

d1sturb3d I wonder how an IS300 spoiler would look in the rear?

[@d1sturb3d119]

@@NuclearPineapple I wonder how wide the LS is compared to the IS.

[@NuclearPineapple]

d1sturb3d ls430 is 72” and is300 is 68”

[@d1sturb3d119]

@@NuclearPineapple Could work

[@DasCayman]

I have an LS430 UL. Best car I’ve ever owned. But I use mine just for highway commuting and the “floaty soft ride” is highly welcomed!! Enjoy!!

[@bloodysinner9456]

The Milwaukee Fuel series of cordless tools are KING at the moment. Put my Snap-on stuff shame.

[@rowancall2879]

How to know that Dave is a father and an ontarian. "MarryiO Party"

[@josesalvadorguillen]

I lost it when he said Marriyo

[@aronlechuga3452]

Looked down here in the comment section as soon as he said it to catch a comment addressing this😂😂

[@mr.jarfix6670]

@@aronlechuga3452 haha same

[@NewDesignVinylGraphics]

Lmfao

[@FrldyZX87]

What a cool build, something different! Can't wait to see the final result!

[@K03sport]

You guys doing all of these projects makes me want to find an LS430/460 and go to town. So much potential.

[@krle7970]

GS 430

[@MkdMuzza]

Loving this build👌I’d recommend inspecting the lower control arm bushings. They are a common wear point on these, and could contribute to vibration under braking loads. Also improves the steering feel slightly.

[@vr6myk]

absolutely. I have one of these cars. Had to replace mine when I bought it due to a previous incident where the hub and bushing were replaced on one side. The original side was super sloppy on my 150k mile car. Some people say theirs are fine at that mileage but mine was loose and visibly had significant movement. I put new OEM ones from an IS on mine with the aluminum housing. You could also use RC GS or RCF or ISF bushings. They all fit you just have to remove the dished washer. Figs and RR Racing make upgraded ones for the track. They are generally marketed towards the IS but fit the GS and LS

[@MkdMuzza]

​@@vr6myk Good info! I've heard the IS ones would fit right in, but I wasn’t 100% sure. Did you notice any improvements/benifits from using the IS bush vs. the LS? I've got an '05 with 175kmiles and I've just replaced 90% of all the front-end suspension components. With the lower control arm bushing, it may visually look okay, but can still be sloppy.

[@vr6myk]

@@MkdMuzza other than getting the slop out, no. One benefit is the bushing comes in the aluminum bracket ready to mount for almost half the price of the stock LS bushing that you have to press into the steel bracket. Also you'd have to pay to get the bushings pressed in if you don't have a press. The ISF or RCF bushings are stiffer I believe and should offer some improvement via less deflection of the bushing under braking and steering. The FIGs version is even stiffer and the RR one is another step up in reducing deflection in all directions due to its design. Improvements in steering feel, and feel under braking. Cons would be more NVH. The stock LS bushings are built for comfort.

[@davidjteo]

Pro Tip for removing the shocks on a double-wishbone cars: As you see, the vertical arm that goes from the hub to the upper ball joint is very close to the strut/spring. Turning the wheel all the way left or right moves the arm away just enough to easily remove the strut/spring.

[@charlesfernandez-693]

Just got home from work and it's a great way to mellow out. Shout out from Manila 🇵🇭

[@JecNolasco]

Yeah! MANILA!

[@mapwheel00]

Ratchet vs Impact Driver: You vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about.

[@brianrobinson9979]

Next we need to see Moose vs the Impact 😅

[@bluezklewz8351]

Impact wrench but yeah

[@DS..69]

Wtf are you talking about mehn? Lmao

[@ifbbprojonathan3711]

I recently went with AIRBAGS on my LS430 and instead of using Spring coil over set up, we did use a NEW struts and placed the bellow bags and it rides amazing

[@williamhavers7460]

Are you going to change the brake fluid? I have had that problem before as it was too old and affecting performance

[@jackb9199]

I can’t wait to see this thing fly down the track! Wish I had a track near me.

[@jackb9199]

@@mikea5205 thanks man. I think I might just get one or put it on my Christmas list

[@jedihair]

The rust on the hub can cause enough runout for the shimmy when you brake. Hope you wire-brushed it off before putting the rotor on.

[@kitastan]

I don't think they did......

[@supagreatman2826]

@@kitastan damn

[@kerrybrucem.8967]

I own a 04 ls430 myself got it 9 years ago must say its a tank on wheels. Endless looks great highway car go gas mileage can't be compared its pure luxury. Best luxury car used i must say. Mine even has the radar cruise control something most cars didn't get til 2011 plus.

[@terryharris2805]

This is the most important build you ever did we lexus owners are counting on you 😀 don't let us down. ✌🏾Ultra

[@marqueviusroscoe1748]

I swear

[@Shady97342]

"If you had a track Lexus for whatever reason...." sick burn!

[@Xxblaze191x]

If you still have a vibration under braking after doing brakes and shocks check the lower control arm bushings and the lower ball joint. Common issue with these cars but very hard to diagnose. Also for exhaust I would recommend a 3rd cat delete and some straight through mufflers to wake it up

[@OwenBuckingham11]

My favorite thing you guys do is explain all the pros and cons of a part before you install it, I especially like when you explain all the aspects of a tire. My question tho is where do I find that information when I'm looking at a part myself?

[@commbubba1990]

That rear center console falling over during the brake test. Lol

[@skanetic]

Kinda sad they missed it

[@TheDIYTuners]

Well my wife wanted me to clean the house but you boys just saved me... Thanks 👌

[@Nick210]

Your wife or your mom?

[@TheDIYTuners]

@@Nick210 wife... that's why I wrote wife and not mum

[@danielwotton9428]

You missed your shot. Everyone knows that painting the callipers red adds 50hp.

[@Golo1949]

Now you tell me, I have refurbished my GS300 brakes and painted mine blue, matches the car.

[@K03sport]

...only if red or a hyper yellow. All other colors add under 20 hp.

[@joshuasingh5438]

Loving the ls430 videos! Makes me want to throw the parts on I’m hoarding on now

[@antbymcnair4297]

FFS those wheels are triggering me lol

[@mikea5205]

haha me too i was hoping they'd change them this episode 😡

[@Golo1949]

A well known problem on early model Lexus, so people had new wheels supplied.

[@drewsplace007]

Very nice work so far guys. I have same year and just did coilovers and figs engineering lower control arm bushings definitely compliments the coilovers highly recommended modification. Can't wait to see what you have in store for this E39 killer!!!

[@umar6962]

in Mighty Car Mods MOOG would definetly taste whatever organic goodies he found :)

[@rafapozzan]

Thank God this isn't MCM

[@umar6962]

@Mr. K i see your gentleman of culture 😲

[@gloomyxyz]

The Canadians are better than that. Minus Justin Trudeau.

[@RobertKohut]

You should do a "wheel restoration, worst case scenario" video with these wheels.... :-)

[@K03sport]

...I was thinking the same thing. Sand blast and powder coat. A nice gunmetal or dark bronze would be a nice color.

[@franciscofiguereo6545]

You guys have inspired me and taught me a lot to make my future cars look nice. And mod them as well.

[@5t341tH]

I have a 06 model. Rear toe can be adjusted slightly from the eccentric bolts. Also be sure to replace the front lower ball joints! You don’t want those to fail and the wheel comes off

[@38tech]

I really want dave to win, just because that lexus is such an underdog.

[@MrBenstero]

Brakes are so good that the rear arm rest opens up on braking. Well done so far guys.

[@supagreatman2826]

Lol wow

[@devinherndon56]

We appreciate you! Glad you're enjoying the ride!

[@brummiescot]

Chrome sockets on an impact driver? Surely you should use impact sockets to prevent damage to them

[@michaelallen2501]

If you can feel the pulsation while braking predominantly in the steering wheel, the front rotors are the culprit. If you can feel the pulsation in the seat, it's out back. If you can feel it in both, well, you know the story. Also, Dave's on point. SLA suspension blows Macpherson outa the water. All about that camber gain setup.

[@mrnicktoyou]

It does feel like I'm watching an ad at times. Lucky the content is still great.

[@deciplesteve]

The content has to make money somehow.

[@presentlypresentingmyprese7058]

Each episode is one giant add with other adds in them..I wonder if this is why they were scratching their heads to their sub numbers...I get they need sponsors for the vids but this is nearly the worst on KZbin for it. Great content as usual though. The two guys aren't annoying either which is refreshing

[@deciplesteve]

@@presentlypresentingmyprese7058 by that standard, Cleetus McFarland is one big Texas Speed wank fest, Cooper Bogetti is a Motion Race Works wank fest, Donut is a Hyundai wank fest, and Mighty Car Mods is a Ryobi wank fest. They all do what they have to do to afford to bring us this content. Don't like it, don't watch.

[@mrnicktoyou]

@@deciplesteve yeah but this episode felt like The Truman Show at times. Especially that torque wrench.

[@bandwagon240]

@@mrnicktoyou Parts, rent and cars aren't free. Gotta work some angles so that content keeps rolling in.

[@fuierago]

I love the track videos, keep 'em comin', however this competition/build series are engaging and well produced. Keep up the good work, and stay safe!

[@evajordan450]

Stoked you guys are producing content again

[@mnwolves180]

Love the video. You guys should definitely make sure to always clean the rust off of the hubs before putting the new rotors on. Also on the LS430s and 460s . The caliper bracket bolts are all a one time use bolt and should be replaced each brake job. Just an fyi. I work at a Lexus dealership lol.

[@justinhui384]

I love this series too! its basically semi mod my car series since its a older car that yall pimping out and making it better. and keeping for yourself to daily drive

[@echannel1018]

I think music over somebody talking is not a good habit. You started this recently.

[@ItsTimePictures]

Waaaay too much music.

[@watthaile2053]

Absolutely.. Most annoying. I just started watching, but if this continues I'll be gone soon.

[@East17A]

having smart enthusiast man like you is haven . i wish if i have someone like you around i will bring my vehicle with full confidence. knowing the upgrade will be super well done and safe plus you have visual taste when it come to wheels and tire width 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 you made poring car looks hot . something that Japanese car suffer . thankfully its fixable with the right people

[@Johnnyaspec]

Got an LS430 myself on BC coilovers, it came with 10K front and 8K rear. Good handling but a firm ride, so for Fortune Auto to recommend harder springs than that i'd say it's not going to be nice to cruise round in.... unless of course you guys have super smooth roads and you only know what a pothole is because you watched a Top Gear special from a 3rd world country Also why does no one grease up the threads on the body? You DO want to have the ability to adjust them in the future right?

[@sebastiaanpeters7358]

Good change the vibration whilst braking is due to all the rust on the mating surface of the hub. Get a wirebrush and remove all that rust, and put a bit of anti-seize on the hub before you put the rotor on.

[@marcuscoster6529]

I wish you would go with a 17" or 18" wheel and a bigger sidewall tire rather than 19"s. It would be more in the spirit of comfort and you aren't going to lose any performance. You might even save a bit of weight. Also. having seen lots of these done up in the "VIP" style, they just don't look as good with a big rim. Chunkier tires suit this car better in every way, so just go as big and meaty as you can and don't worry about fitting more rim.

[@grandtheftauto1233]

Fresh brakes should always be broken in - you have to evenly distribute the pad material to avoid pulsation. Nice work guys LS430 is awesome

[@djsonicc]

"220 of nut busting torque" just like my ex. she was a power lifter

[@kylehufford9645]

If you don't clean the rust off the front hub surface you can still have vibrations even with new brake components. If it continues to pulsate then clean that hub surface. It really is a critical step in a proper brake job.

[@joshm.2216]

“Nintendo DS cartridge for a Mary-O Party” 💀

[@frozenpete788]

I bet you guys did it off camera but cleaning the hub mating surface is important especially on multi pistons fixed caliper (since the rotor isn't floating to compensate runout). Double wishbones and real brakes. I'm a BMW guy but there are some things.. Biggest scare was e60 m5, v10 power and no brakes.. 👌

[@andrevidal5762]

Men the rusty hubs makes me insane!

[@JecNolasco]

PHILIPPINES!! I'm learning a lot from you guys!!

[@UnWrecked]

I just fixed up a gs300 I got for $700. That thing was a nice ride

[@RyantheGiraffe]

Stoked for the build off series!

[@ZeeChannelfamily]

Keep the Lexus LS430 family growing!!! Shout out from Zee Channel 😊😊

[@Bob_Sacamano69]

Great video series guys! I'm partial to the M5, but that Lexus is looking nice driving down the road.

[@loom63]

Wow these stock front brakes are radial mounted!!!

[@408SPLKINGS]

F1 technology

[@andrewvillanueva4222]

My lexus ls430 2001 has 325,000 miles orginal engine and transmission original alternator and starter. Just regular maintenance. These cars are bulletproof.

[@TrackDayMiata]

You guys are awesome , don't ever think otherwise. To get more viewers just keep doing more Jdm nuggets with fun mods , maybe a kei car or two.

[@Scrrumy]

Actually impressed with how much good stuff this car came with from factory

[@PaulCuenin]

man, this is great.... need and LS to match my wife's LX now.

[@conradhernandez7364]

When is the next episode scheduled to be aired? Can't wait to see what is next so I can do the same to my LS. Great job!

[@darrenchesterton6410]

I really wish you would clean the rust off the hubs when replacing the rotors. Not doing it could cause a vibration and could cause the rotor to seize to it.

[@GGdevelopment]

THE M3 LOGO ON THE CALIPERS ADDS STOPPING FORCE!

[@breakyoself4423]

Good job. Keep it up the car sits clean and mean

[@jamalwalker2104]

Thanks for the video. I’m getting ready to have mine replaced too.

[@matthewquinn937]

great series, I hope you're getting the views you deserve

[@slicktop2jz855]

Wheel cribs saved my life 👍 I use 6x of them. One for each wheel, one under each sil

[@MohammedAlshehhi21]

I can't wait you guys to start detailing the LS

[@2turbo4u]

Why didn't you get a GS430 which is in the same class as a BMW 5series? The LS goes against the 7 series BMW, not a fair comparison.

[@SAMusement]

Loving following along with these build series'

[@christschiffely8030]

Are you guys torqueing moving suspension bolts while under load? I noticed on this and the miata sale prep video you've torqued A-arms while in the air. I've always understood that final torque should be performed with full weight on wheels. Another great one guys, keep em coming- enjoyed this one with a cup of coffee and oatmeal on a snowy Colorado morning =) Cheers

[@BasedEMT1776]

Honestly these guys aren't the best. The last video they made me facepalm so hard, and they're always doing sketchy stuff. They are not mechanics. I watch the videos just to see what they do next that'll make me cringe more.

[@speedacademy]

Yes, the front A Arms were tightened after raising the suspension, the rear point isn’t a flex joint so no need for it. 80% of the time consuming cumbersome work isnt shown on video

[@speedacademy]

What?! You mean we ARE the best, we’ve spent decades training off of KZbin videos and consider ourselves pros and every video we make includes every torque spec, proper installation techniques in meticulous fashion...that’s what the internet wants to watch right Cory? Or perhaps it’s all for entertainment purposes to make sure you facepalm yourself and keep coming back to watch our cringeworthy content MUAHAHA

[@christschiffely8030]

@@speedacademy I figured that may be the case- no sense in showing the world the struggles of crawling under the car while it's on the wheel jenga towers to torque bolts you cant hardly see! Again, enjoying all the content! Thx

[@maxpeck6872]

Aw some poor kid lost his mario party game 😢

[@MrAudi220]

Very nice you could see that the suspension does wonders.Pretty amazed about the stock brake setup on the lexus tbh.And yeah Moog from Mighty Car Mods loves his outdated snacks and alot of other delicious flavours coming out of a dirty cars floor carpet, and they seem to like feet too down there.😅🤣 Great video guys, did about the same thing today with my car, took out my coil overs to fit some harder rubber topmounts on and last week i replaced my heavy steel front controle arms with some aluminum ones(2.5 kg lighter in total so less unspung weight) along with a anti lift kit to add more caster in the front, if any is looking for a decent upgrade over coil overs i would recommend getting a anti lift kit for your fwd or awd car, steering feels amazing now.👍✌️👉

[@feedingfrenzy123]

Keen to see more on the LS430 and M5!

[@PhillyDee215]

I just fixed the sending unit on my 98' LS400, great cars👍

[@DustInTheAir]

So the wheel hub doesn't need to be cleaned whenever changing brake rotor? Usually people clean it and use cooper anti-seize to protect it from rust

[@quantumjim45]

I've had 2 of these - 2001 and 2004 and loved them. Have replaced a number of front rotors to get rid of vibration - my guess from what I've read is that is was transfer of some pad material to the rotors. Pads were always good and rotors not warped at all (checked with gauge). WORST thing I ever did was replace all 4 struts and upper mounts with recommended Monroe oem equivalent - they lowered the car just enough that the tires caught the front fender openings from time to time!! Awful.

[@vr6myk]

Need to look into those Fortune Autos. I wanted to run Tanabes and OE sport suspension shocks but they don't make the Tanabe springs anymore. Would probably lower even less than you guys did but I'd love a sportier feel while driving. Otherwise the LS is one of the best cars I've ever owned.

[@rowanlewisuk]

Been gagging for the next episode of this build, awesome content

[@Predator_Qc3290]

Cosmetic wise i would replace these halogen headlights bulbs with leds and have the window tinted. Can't wait to see new wheels as well.

[@Seikers]

Loving these budget builds!

[@daynerampersad8968]

you shpuld get some vibrant streetpower mufflers with the four inch tips on the LS

[@kristopherjacob1874]

Make sure u cut a space in the strut tower. Your upper control arm will hit. You have to make clearance for it

[@kevinblankenburg4816]

the BMW might have only one piston in the back, but no complaints about weak breaks.

[@theodoreyoung8777]

I own a 2006 Lexus LS430 never getting rid of her she is a keeper 😎

[@ExtremeRecluse]

I bought a 2007 ES350 from Los Angeles and brought it to Detroit. It will stay in the garage and will be allowed to go out when the roads are clean.

[@350TPI]

Now i LOVE this body style of LS but i can't help but wonder if the 3rd generation GS350 or 430 would've been better suited to take on the M5. I am loving this series and look forward to see how this progresses.

[@snape1464]

There's options for sporty airride these days (There's a Subaru time attack car running Air Lift stuff). Would've been a nice opportunity to do something different, we've heard your compliments about Fortune Auto often enough

[@rlscustoms]

Absolutely love the way it turned out wow

[@Syncopia]

Love the wooden cribbing blocks, did the same myself instead of buying hundred dollar high lift jack stands.

[@alexron2023]

You forgot to clean all the rust from the hubs , that is a must or you will wind up with vibrations on the breaks later on !

[@rockervdrive]

Now that you have a nice ride height on there, some nice wheels will really set it off! Can't wait!

[@aldoavak9]

Ever hear of an "impact" socket to use with an "impact" gun? Or how about cleaning the rust from the mating surfaces when putting the rotor onto the hub? Or even applying anti-seize on the surfaces?

[@willisnguyen4715]

transformation is coming along!

[@RussellKirstein]

so excited for this build