We All Must Learn To Die || Responding to the Ravi Zacharias Scandals || Matthew

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[@KellieGray-k4t]

WOW!! I wished I had heard this 3yrs ago! This was a huge help in managing my.RAGE that I had when the news broke. And then there was my RAGE & FRUSTRATION when trying to talk to Christians about it. Too many shrugged shoulders and “well…. We are all sinners “. “We just need to forgive”, yaddayadda…. You have provided a safe space to express our many feeling regarding rzim, thank you.❤

[@maitisanw.j7453]

Good job👍thanks for bringup Biblical contect in relating to these issues. The word of God is a two edges sword and has truth in it. We have to live by its standard and judged by it. It has all aswers for all issues. God bless you. Thankyou

[@rmac2489]

When you said about Sarah Davis being in an impossible position you are right and I could not agree more. There is so much to say on this subject but I will limit myself to saying that a daughter cannot possibly be as objective as she needs to be dealing with the fallout that is going to come from this whole sordid mess - this is a long way from over. I believe if she really wants change and to salvage this ministry she has to step aside. She is emotionally involved and that impairs her judgment.

[@edwardhart5466]

Brilliant teaching again, so gifted Glen, Thank-you

[@donsimonds5186]

That is a pure message from God, one of the purest ones I've heard in a long time. And that's the way the gospel needs to be presented. We must speak the truth with all concerns for the flesh put under our feet and with the aim to exalt the God that has saved us. Fantastic job, I would say you've changed my perception of the Gospel, may I hold on to it and use it as a tool in my own life , thank you, thank you God bless.

[@jlions9016]

"My power is made perfect in weakness"

[@susandixson5830]

Thank you.🙌

[@eschmigu]

Thank you very much for speaking so clear! It helps me to process with a clearer view and putting things in its right place.

[@christianbensel]

Thank you for being honest.

[@user-pq7lt1uh8e]

Thank you for assessment criteria presented here that we need to first to do on ourselves...and really introspect

[@pamcollins2178]

Thank you.

[@WeTHINweekly]

I agree, RZIM should shut down. Ravi didn’t die well. I can’t believe that his family didn’t have their suspicions. AGAIN THEIR FAMILY WAS BLINDED BY THE MONEY, AS WAS THE STAFF AND BOARD.

[@rayewilliams4431]

Totally agreed how hard to give up the lavish lifestyle which is not the way of the cross. Need to read Ruth Malhotra 26 pages devastating letter to RZIM Board Chairman February 6, 2021 to gain insight into the inside story of covering including many of board members, including her own daughter- how she was advised never to confront the Zacharias family as Ruth Malhotra stepped into the role of PR "Within my first month at RZIM during my onboarding in 2013, I was warned by my then manager, “Whatever you do, don’t cross the Zacharias family.” Now they are trying to do the face saving but the Mighty Father has revealed all and vindicated the victims especially Lori Thompson and his husband and their whole family. The person was positioned in such a high spiritual power and he so wretchedly failed in being exemplary in edifying other integrity, instead ripped them apart!

[@historian9484]

@@rayewilliams4431 i see them as a victum rather than money hungrey.This man was emotionally and spiritually abusive .He was such a con that he deceived millions of people So seems very easy to deceive his own family.Despite his fame,i really did not connect with him although i wanted to.There was just something about him that was not right specialy after i heard that lori thompson posted a message from him threatening he will kill himself.Godly people dont do that.I am not naif either.Lori thomson has to cash in.They were both guilty.Why would she ask for 5 million dollars to keep silent

[@rayewilliams4431]

@@historian9484 may be I may be wrong Mona but so far i have read into the report and the first whistleblower Steve Baughman and the abortion survivor of 1974, i shared. Because Steve Baughman was threatened to be silenced on a dinner with Ravi Zacharias and one of the close associates and speaker of RZIM was along with him. Thereafter so far I read through Roy Report investigative journalist, she had letters taken from their counsellors of LOri Ann Thompson and his husband. And his husband later on wrote a letter of forgiveness to Ravi Zacharias but Ravi Zacharias later on remarked his wife sent her the photographs that he never invited which was all false as evident from Martin and Miller report. His husband was enraged over that and they decided to held him accountable they sued him for damages not for keeping silent. However Ravi Zacharias being an influential man he slapped them with RICO, and it was so expensive for the Canadian couple to fly every now and then to America and the legal expenses becoming unbearable Ravi Zacharias convinced them into Non Disclosure Agreement but Ravi Zacharias paid half the money to keep them silent.. They sued him not to be silent but to held him accountable for the damages he caused to their marriage and children. Yes she was also guilty of sending pictures to her but this man is very powerful and Lori Ann Thompson had a bad childhood abuse with her father and looking for a father figure in him to heal herself which he took advantage. Further she felt convicted and she repented and she suffered massively for this . So she is forgiven by God. She even was honest enough to admit everything to his husband that put their marriage on stake. She is still suffering. I feel that is more than enough for her. But where is repentance in case of Ravi , instead the same day NDA agreement was reached, he was again on his predatory behaviour. Moreover, Lori never filed the case to enter into NDA. but since the legal expenses became unbearable they had to. That is enough I shared with you. It is how I interpreted, may be I am wrong too. So no further arguments. Since the Mighty God is the ultimate judge of all one who oppress the victims and one who is genuinely a victim. Let us leave on Him!

[@jothisunil]

We never questioned him or his teachings so he became powerful and with no responsibility

[@rayewilliams4431]

Thank you precious brother for both the videos I am new in faith. I can relate so well with your earlier video because my life is a series of abuses being inflicted at the hands of those who should not have. Whenever I tried to share the abuses, I received such a backlash and was isolated like I was a wretched sinner. Dejected and distressed for nearly 20 years and tried to commit suicide thrice ultimately was lifted out by direct revelation by Beloved Father in dreams about watching Gospel of John. I am positioned in India and have none in physical to have fellowship but am so blessed that Holy Spirit always lead me to watch those who can help me see my past victimization in new light i.e. not my fault but the oppressors. From my own experiences, those who are in power and filthy rich prone to abuse the disadvantageous. Once again brother Thank you so much for video on Tamar!

[@limrosemary8536]

do u think the patriarchy , caste system culture tat he is from somehow played a part

[@SpeakLifeMedia]

God bless you Raye. Christ stands with you and I'll pray you're able to find healing fellowship with his people.

[@rayewilliams4431]

@@SpeakLifeMedia Thank you precious brother. Amen! Please pray for my son and my parents too that they may come to His Saving Faith. God bless you always too!

[@rayewilliams4431]

@@limrosemary8536 Man nature is wicked unless The Everlasting Spirit of Beloved Father works. It does not matter what country you are born into, or what culture you are bred with. Adam sinned even in Pure Eden. Satan sinned in spite of all heavenly power bestowed on him. Cain killed his own brother Abel. No country no culture originated at that time. Basically man nature is same everywhere. God bless you!

[@RM-ql2xy]

Will these episodes ever be put into an audio podcast format for Apple and Spotify?? That would be so awesome!

[@martinospitaletta8198]

Matthew 7, 23. Was Ravi a doer of lawlessness? Yes. Philippians 1, 6. Did the holy spirit transform his life into the image of Christ? No. Did he continue in sin? Yes. 1. John 3, 9. There is no sign of Ravi fighting against sin. Ravi was fighting to conceal his sin. Romans 1,5. True faith is visible, because obedience is making true faith visible. And so is disobedience making visible true unbelief John 3, 36. The conclusion of this verses is clear. I recommend Matthew Bates book "Salvation by Allegiance alone. Reconsidering Faith, Works and the Gospel of Jesus the King." Be blessed!

[@roccorubino6288]

a fish rots at the head first; as soon as David fell, the whole program fell into chaos. what a cautionary tale.

[@pastorrod6901]

Thank you for this, Glen. I've profited from both this video and its predecessor. The next question is, how do we apply John 20:21-23 to Ravi himself? What does it mean, in light of all that you have said, to forgive Ravi his sins?

[@donsimonds5186]

You know the comeback that people use when you make a judgment about the right or wrong of a Ministry or word, a sermon. Now this is just my wisdom. I've asked the Lord for so I could be wrong but I think people that are really adamant about, don't judge you cannot judge another man's servant you don't know their heart stops judging. I wouldn't be surprised because it was true in my life, that the underlying reason is because they know their life is not what it should be, and God forbid , I don't want someone to judge me. But they don't realize, God is judging them because he sees it all and if they belong to him he will chastise them.

[@kurtanderson5023]

The hearts attitude is found in its behavior. We certainly can judge Ravi’s behavior and warn others to be careful about spiritual leaders who abuse others. It’s not wrong to judge Ravi for his sinful behavior. It’s wrong to hypocritically judge him.

[@megaloschemos9113]

I don't think having ministries named after one man isn't helpful. Also many of these ministries are not run like a church where people can see you more often than a 'visiting speaker.'

[@malpais776]

Thank you, sir for such a helpful video. I figured there would be a follow up. Your example of Tamar as being an innocent victim, good and righteous was right. That's the way scripture describes it. And there are many women ( and men) who are just like this and victimized by duplicitous people overwhelmed by the "nexus of evil". It starts out in little ways. Making small compromises to our Values, as Martin Buber called it, " For The Sake of Heaven". B4 too long the Imago Dei gets eclipsed by calculated outcomes and false images. Your description of the "4 traps" was very helpful. It might not be the right time to write this, but I think this whole issue is something for all of us to learn from and make adjustments for: male or female, or transgender. It's difficult: challenging ( in good faith ) church authority figures . You have all kinds of people lining up for them: doctors, lawyers, and all those people who think they are defending all that is Righteous, Good, True and Beautiful. It aint easy. And without Christ and prayer it's easy to lose oneself to rage and bitterness ( and appropriating all the passionate, vitriolic rhetoric of revenge and victimhood that is so easily available, and oftentimes articulate and attractive. ). But you are correct: we are called on the do the do, and EMBODY the be. Another trap you didn't mention is the obsessiveness that constant focus on "purity" in ourselves and others can become. This can sometime become paralyzing paranoia. Also, perhaps noteworthy were the efforts involved in Mao's cultural revolution in the 60's. What that led to: Human, all too human. That ole devil's a tricky fella. I can imagine a brand new Christian newspaper " The News of the Church". An investigative rag starting out with good intentions exposing the "dirty hands" of church leaders. Then gaining influence and resources becoming something horridly political and manipulative, but Pure and Idealistic. If anyone ever asks me again to lead an adult Sunday school lesson, with your permission, I would use these 2 videos.

[@SpeakLifeMedia]

Thanks so much Richard. Much wisdom here, and absolutely - use any of our resources. God bless.

[@malpais776]

@@SpeakLifeMedia OK. But wisdom? Don't kid yourself. I'm damn mad too.

[@murielshore4843]

I had been a Christian for over 13 years when before I truly understood that I have been crucified with Christ and have no right to live anymore. It was quite a shock to come to the realisation that Muriel in the flesh can do absolutely nothing as it will always be from the first Adam life. I cried out with my nose in the dust woe is me I am a man of unclean lips and live amongst a people of unclean lips. As I accepted the cross and death to my life that Christ might live I was silenced for years as I went through loss to gain Christ. That was 32 years ago and have grown in grace over the years. It has cost me greatly but my daily prayer is Philippians 3 v 10 and 11 and Galatians 6 14. May the church come back to her true place where she can say " May I never boast except in the cross of Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. May this be a time when the testimony of Christ comes back into view. Keep up your ministry and continue to glory in the Cross of Christ.

[@donnag.3611]

JUST ONE DESCRIPTION OF RAVI ZACHARIAS--PROVERBS 26:23-25-- Like a coating of glaze over earthenware are fervent lips w/ an evil heart. A malicious man disguises himself w/ his LIPS but in his HEART he HARBORS DECEIT. Though his speech is CHARMING, do NOT believe him, for SEVEN ABOMINATIONS FILL HIS HEART. Another aspect I'd like to talk about is that when people open up the doors to evil doings, they also open up the doors to strongmen, principalities, powers, etc. in the spirit realm...it looks to me like Ravi carried w/ him a strongman of Jezebel spirit, the witchcraft spirit, the spirit of intimidation, lying spirit, seduction spirit, the charmer spirit (like a snake) & many more. For sure, HE WAS A WOLF & WOLVES FOOL PEOPLE!!! So glad that Steve had this dinner w/ him & continued to pursue him!

[@stepankotek]

I think you made a great point that ne cannot throw the church under the bus. It is gonna be just me and God. Big problem with RZIM is that into big extend it was one man show...

[@normaodenthal8009]

In a nutshell, sin is mudguard syndrome, shiny on top, and dirty underneath.

[@dianenlc8284]

I think the key weakness lies in having relatives on the board and that this applies to every organisation who has a board - family members are never going to be as objective as those without any personal connections. I feel this is a conflict of interests.

[@rayewilliams4431]

Do read Ruth Malhotra devastating 26 pages Letter to RZIM Board Chairman_February 6, 2021 to gain insight the inside story of covering including many of board members, including her own daughter- how she was advised never to confront the Zacharias family as Ruth Malhotra stepped into the role of PR "Within my first month at RZIM during my onboarding in 2013, I was warned by my then manager, “Whatever you do, don’t cross the Zacharias family.”

[@SpeakLifeMedia]

Yes, that letter is painful to read.

[@sundareshvenugopal6575]

Thou shalt know a tree by its fruit. No one reaps figs from thorn bushes. A good tree brings forth good fruit and a bad tree brings forth bad fruit. Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing. Many will come in my name and will deceive the elect (god's chosen ones the Jews, and the love of many will go cold). On that day, (the day of reckoning, judgement), many will say to me lord, did not we preach in(more like for or as a false representative of) your name, did not we work wonders(miracles) in (for) your name, but I will say to them, begone from me you workers of lawlessness, I never knew you.

[@jeethangovender3777]

Too late to judge.We cannot hate whom God loves. We need to evangelize the lost.All this discussion is a waste of time.

[@711yada]

Right on.

[@theconversationcannabischr1514]

Transparency & accountability are critical for the Church. Dedication to both lowers the probability of false accusations & helps keep the Church where it is supposed to be, with the people. Sexual harassment & assault, racism & financial stewardship are three key areas that need transparency & accountability. Former Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) leader Paige Patterson triggered the sexual harassment/assault transparency problem & was also on record saying a non-white person in a position of Church leadership would set back the progress the SBC believed it was making. The SBC did everything they could to give Patterson a golden parachute until their efforts were met with overwhelmingly negative public relations. The RZIM & Hillsong NYC failures are horrible. However, both RZIM & Hillsong hired independent law firms to conduct their investigation. RZIM committed to making the report public, & articles on Hillsong pastors at troubled locations show accountability, meaning several pastors & their spouses are no longer employed by Hillsong. Transparency like this isn’t common. When someone at Speak Life fails, & someone will fail, what does Speak Life’s policy require of its leadership when dealing with failure?

[@voxangeli9205]

So, what should we do now, too, stop ranting about the sexual misconducts and scandals of the original preachers of our faith, i.e. the Catholic priests in the Catholic Church, because there are also sexually abusive and scandalous Christian pastors and ministers in Christian churches who are equally guilty?

[@booka852]

I love those verses matthew 5:17till 20 laws of god can nlt change u made 3gods in 1 matthew 7:22 LORD LORD Remind me please who calles jesus LORD AND SAVIOR

[@limrosemary8536]

´lord it over them’ is the reality of many structures on earth esp religious ones... some pastoral staff gets so trampled by the ´ Board’ ...

[@isaacchavez5702]

Ravi Zacharias has met WHO will be his JUDGE ALREADY.

[@donsimonds5186]

As you were sharing about Christ giving the power to the church to forgive sins, whatever you forgive others forgiven in heaven whatever you loose is loose in heaven. I don't think that was dangerous at all, because if you're his church he's directing you, you've taken up your cross and you follow Him. As soon as someone starts for giving people's sins contrary to what the scriptures say, or loose things that he has not been directed by the Lord to lose , he has himself, removed himself from the church. Therefore what he forgives and what he loses is not forgiven or loose in heaven. This is given to the church, the Sheep of his pasture hear his voice and follow him, the ones that turn aside and do contrary , have buy their own action left his church. I will grant that they could still be one of his flock but gone astray like the prodigal which is a very dangerous thing to do. But he did not say whatever a prodigal or backslider luces and forgives will be loosed and forgiven in heaven, know that won't happen.

[@farhatjohn9168]

Hi , I am writing few words , not to condemn any one but feel like once again I hear the big crow of people saying “ Crucify Him “ People and Pastor having details of the different scriptures explaining on the You Tube . I do understand the situation and the reason they is lot of explanation about Ravi and all his misconduct. I listened to the Bible study of Amnon, and Tamar ! You Pastor did a great job by putting light on the deeds of Amnon ( Ravi ) What about Tamar , she was pure and had honor of herself , honor for God of Israel . Do you compare Tamar with all the females who were involved with Ravi ???? No please don’t do this ! These woman have taken money , also had pleasure of spending time even some would haven been married like Lori Thompson . She has taken naked pictures of herself and sent over to him . How could she represent Tamar ??? No my dear , I am upset about it . Every morning I get up , feeling sorry for the Heart of the Lord , how much it would have been wounded . I pay adoration before my Lord and tell him , help me to love you ! Give me the grace to Love you with all my heart . There are so much in the Bible that we can talk . What about Rahab and Spies , if you read that part of the story in the book of Joshua Rahab was in prostitution job in those days & she lied but still God was happy with her act and blessed her that she is in the line of king David and her name is written in the Holy Scriptures. Let us pray for all , for all who are wounded and hurt and also those who caused these wound . I am hurt and wounded too , please pray for me as well . Thank you

[@Zerpentsa6598]

You gotta be kidding. There's too much money at stake. Too much "reward" (c.f. Ravi's definition).

[@jameseverett4976]

Does everyone feel vicariously guilty? So what.....now we're going to figure out how this is never going to happen again?

[@dallasstudent1605]

I don't feel guilty. It is garbage to blame the church or public for RZ and RZIM's behaviors or lack of behaviors. Many people didn't idolize RZ or buy his books so why are we told it was our idolizing this man that caused the problems? Talk about shifting the blame. This will happen again because there are pathological liars and psychopaths that live among us. RZ was lying when he was at Christian Missionary Alliance by saying he was head of departments that never existed. It was their responsibility to discipline him then and if he continued to lie to boot him out of ministry work. RZIM was run like a corporation. The family-controlled the board and organization. That is against the rules of governance at ECFA yet no one confronted RZIM or dropped them from membership for non-compliance. RZ and his family needed counseling a long time ago. They certainly didn't qualify for ministry. RZ didn't even belong to a church. The family should close the door and get professional help to deal with what happened. They certainly don't need to step into the spotlight again and deal with all that stress all over. This is like a Christian soap opera. Who needs that?

[@jameseverett4976]

@@dallasstudent1605 - I agree. All these videos on it, everyone has to add their 2 cents, which is mostly repetition of each other, and virtue signaling their great 'humility' over it, and what we should learn from it to insure it never happens again. It's as if they're all excited over it because it makes them look better by contrast.

[@jesussaves7973]

@@dallasstudent1605 oh I agree as well!! Very well stated! Thank you

[@TempleofChristMinistries]

Which preacher who preaches the name Jesus Christ Emmanuel who stands up on stage, which one of them actually thinks they are not born of light, they are not born god, none of them, and that is the problem, no one ever says you are not born of God, many Preacher Men in this world and their congregation who are actually not born of the living God, this is the great deception and there is no other, to think you are light when all you are is the darkness, if a man of Darkness thinks he is born of God then he will tell the rest of the congregation that they also born of God, the blind leading the blind all fall into the pit, To call on the name of the Christ is not evidence that one is born God, because anyone can call on the name of the Christ, the name has been given to All Creation, and if anyone has a mouth to speak then they can call on this name. Take Mr John Piper for instance, this man is not born of light it is clearly seen, because he is a 63 year old man full of the spirit of an adolescent child, how can this be, when one is to be transformed into the image of the Christ and the image of the Christ is not being full of the spirit of an adolescent child.

[@wretchedmaniam8081]

What do you mean by adolescent child

[@TempleofChristMinistries]

@@wretchedmaniam8081 he confessed it himself and told me in fact he told the whole congregation that he was full of passions and desires of a boy, that these things still plague him, when he should be full of the holy spirit and transformed into the image of the Christ, I can understand an infant in Christ being full of these things but not a man who has walked with the Christ for decades who at 63 years old is still full of these things,

[@tulliusagrippa5752]

Systems and structures do not sin. People sin. Sin is personal, not systemic. Your obsession with systems and structures is totally misdirected. There is no such thing as systemic sin.

[@IosifStalin2]

Superimposing OT myths unto current times is fanciful at best and disastrous at worst. It gave America Donald Trump.