Spec Ops Test CHEAP vs. EXPENSIVE Rucksacks!

The Spec Ops boys are back and testing rucksacks in this installment of War Wallet! You asked and they delivered! From super straps to kidney belts, Cam and Israel break down all there is to know about military-grade rucksacks. Watch as they get a feel for each rucksack in the great outdoors and give you their honest review.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:13 - Presentation
01:01 - Alice & Modified Alice
04:37 - Alice Test
06:17 - Molle II
09:44 - Molle II Test
11:09 - Malice Pack
12:40 - Malice Pack Test
14:09 - Mystery Ranch 6500
17:44 - Mystery Ranch 6500 Test
19:35 - Conclusion
20:56 - Outro
#specops #warwallet #militaryrucksacks
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Israel Wright: / myhappyself2
His twitch channel: / myhappyself
Cameron Fath : / cameroncfath

[@stevenglendale9053]

Always love an episode of shift fire doesn't matter what it is just fun watching you guys

[@dr.jstine9657]

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[@ShiftFire]

Glad to hear you enjoy our content Steven!

[@billfill]

For any outdoor enthusiasts, the Mystery Ranch T100 is basically the 6500 but half the price, not jumpable, and in granola colors

[@abelcheng2073]

Lmao granola colors.

[@bombomos]

Hold up, what about the T-800?

[@Amish234]

Country of Origin plays a major role in pricing.

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

yes mr wayne, it does come in granola

[@pweakd4609]

I’m national guard, and I bought the Mystery Ranch Griz pack for my civilian job, but also to use it to hunt and for the military. The price range was around 600 and man it’s a dream. Y’all missed one thing, the one detail about the top flaps that come standard on all of them is you can take it off and that can turn into a mini backpack. So let’s say you ground your ruck in a PB or something. You can take it off and have mission essentials in there and take it with you to do what you’re going to do.

[@lordkamikaze2784]

What state are guard forn

[@joshyman91297]

What’s your civilian job??,

[@Dishonoredeamon]

I watch a lot of youtube. I mean a lot. And i watch a lot of military/gun/gaming content. And my god, yall's content is so refreshing its insane. So thanks guys, and keep it up!

[@jacobcoryell8258]

Bro go touch some grass lmao

[@JoeZUGOOLA]

Military/gun/gaming Only two of them are connected. Go for a hike

[@dtdlilcoold]

Tf is the problem with the 2 guys above me lol

[@kazu9343]

@@dtdlilcoold Basically those two guys are snowflakes I think if I remember correctly we have freedom of speech people can show their opinion, social media really turn people into monsters man..

[@thebunnisher109]

One thing that is nice about the Alice packs is modularity. You can easily swap out broken parts and field repair.

[@vlima7164]

do a "Spec ops test cheap vs expensive uniforms". Maybe rothco, vs crye, vs patagucci, vs arcteryx leaf. Run around and roll around in them Then do a spec ops test old vs new camos, maybe m81 woodland vs UCP vs multicam. Hide in the forest or something and one guy has to find the other Then do spec ops test cheap vs expensive helmets, and shoot each other in the head with them on (just kidding)

[@ShiftFire]

We will add that to the brainstorm list!

[@TonberryShuffle]

Definitely going to second the cheap vs expensive uniforms. If only because I want to see a shitty set of ACU's fall apart near instantly.

[@madd_lad_matt]

@@TonberryShuffle I think we all do 😈

[@neo4308]

You guys have good chemistry, love this channel. Keep prospering fellas!

[@yeastyg546]

They truly are an amazing couple! They just had their 4 year anniversary, and are in the process of adopting a child. #LGBTQ STRONG

[@weaver3636]

@@yeastyg546 What the ...

[@yeastyg546]

@@weaver3636 don’t judge them! They will make AMAZING parents! #GAYPARENTING #DOUBLETHEMEAT #PRIDE

[@CharlieTangoYankee]

Just got done with a civilian FTX at MilSim West, realized pretty quickly I needed a better ruck. Couldn't be more perfectly timed, thanks gents!!

[@CharlieTangoYankee]

@bLackstar Did you do the MALICE upgrade or something different? How do you like it?

[@jamjew]

I left the army twenty seven years ago and man am i jealous of how far the basic kit have come in terms of quality and comfort .

[@archer8492]

Israel shouting 'AAAAAHHHHH SPECIAL FORCES!' when he starts running is adorable, especially considering the guy's a trained killer. Love this channel, your chemistry together is just addictive to watch, I don't even care what you're talking about. Really enjoying the podcast too, keep it up!

[@sgteddy1212]

I actually snapped my Molle 2 frame during a 3-mile ruck.... in the middle of an FTX. They should've stuck with metal.

[@joeglaza]

This seems so familiar, for some reason.. ha ha. I watched it again and gave you a likey. Keep up the excellent work!

[@vsmaster6162]

Tarkov

[@codythatcher735]

@@vsmaster6162 i think he means cuz it's a repost from a few days ago, mustve gotten taken down for something

[@traviswolf6136]

Just found y’all the other day and have binged every video. At first I thought I was watching black rifle coffee, but realized the channel name, y’all are doing great! Excellent quality and subject matter and thank you for your service!

[@brads.1479]

I didn’t mind the Molle II until I saw a Marine buddy’s issue ILBE Arcteryx ruck. After trying it on and rucking in it, I hated that we were issued the Molle II. I ended up buying my own Marine ILBE ruck off eBay to use outside the Army. Way more comfortable and centers the load better than the Molle II. I think the ILBE even carry’s a bit more than the Molle II. Not to sound jealous or anything.

[@falsumit]

Great video guys. Been training for 18x a couple years. Originally had a GORUCK GR1 but switched to a surplus molle rucksack specifically because it's a simple, dependable, and no-frills bag.

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

I had a Hellcat; Medium Alice, MOLLE II harnes/waistbelt, MSS carrier, king cobra weave paracord drag handle, 3L hydration bladder holder, canteen/e-tool holder, USGI machete between the frame & ruck, Fastex buckle conversion and a few 30rd mag pouches...ALL in matching M81 Woodland Camo. But by the time I was done with that build, I realized I just could've gotten an unissued USMC ILBE for $75 (which is basically an Arc'Teryx Bora 80 on steroids). And I did exactly that. Traded off the Hellcat, kept my mods off of it and got the IBLE (that is, until the FILBE came out! LOL). Now, I got 2 FILBES, a MOLLE II and like 5 Mystery Ranch rigs + an Eberlestock.

[@adastra9105]

i bought the acu rucksack that you hate so much. paid $25 at a flea market. great ruck and spray paint is cheap

[@bombomos]

Last part gave me a chuckle

[@juanmacias418]

Yup....

[@jacobj3236]

You can also buy something called Rit Dye at Walmart and other stores for a few dollars. It's pretty good stuff.

[@floofycatz]

Practically everything I need to know about rucksacks in one video, exactly what I've been looking for, thank you so much! And thank you for your service :)

[@mooshu3210]

you guys are great! Love the cheap vs expensive and MRE tests

[@adamwilson6]

Cam has those legendary infantry legs.

[@eltito9829]

The editor never disappoints

[@bombomos]

Kudos to the Editor. A true MVP

[@walangchahangyelingden8252]

Great editing in every video, I must say.

[@zacknicholson3693]

It's worth stating that mystery ranch gives 25% off to military and first responders. Definitely moves the price to value ratio.

[@PreacherActual]

I smile immediately when the first one was the ALICE pack it bring back so many memories from service and specially the patrols

[@sorenkazaren4659]

I am so thankful for these two showing up together on Gamology and splitting off to do this.

[@davidwhittington7638]

I do enjoy your antics on screen, but no cloth bag is worth 850 dollars, unless it comes with its own Sherpa. Why not buy similar bags from ex military personnel. My gear served me well in the military, and I am still using the same ruck today..

[@SashOkVR]

Thank you guys for your service! You guys are absolute badasses!

[@venomousrecon7450]

On the general issue bag, when I was in training I used the sustainment pouch on the side to hole a full extra uniform and it’s like the more you put in it the more room you find 😂

[@spartin1173]

Its like magic it just keeps expanding until you realize everything is packed and you still have more room

[@happyhendry2081]

You should go over how you would pack a rifle in a ruck situation. Keep up the great work!

[@TheUngiftedGamer]

This channel continues to be the most entertaining one today, I'm enjoying our little tight quiet corner but I know you'll have a million subs soon enough

[@Idkgoogleitbro]

Hey guys why did y'all reupload? Thank you for the video

[@tombobaggins]

Great showing! Being old school I still use both a Denali and 1952 mountain ruck (which was the ruck issued for the q-course. Keep up the the good work…De Oppresso Liber!

[@humaniodxeno889]

I was given a Molly II via donation along with many other very expensive items and medals (Long story) and I have used it on every vacation or long trip sense. Has so much room for clothes, items, and still have plenty of room to bring back items you may or may not buy while out on your vacation and it beats the hell out of a suitcase. Although you WILL get some weird looks or double takes at airports but 100% worth it.

[@RoseFamily2018]

Did you have to repost for some reason? New member but these are some badass videos! Thank you both for your service 🙏!

[@rhileycaisto4331]

My buddy and I both got Woodland MOLLE II packs at the beginning of summer, i believe it was about 90-110$ a pack from a surplus store. Awesome rucksack, but like those guys said, it squeaks a lot when you have it totally loaded up. Other than the squeaking, absolutely no complains on it and is a very comfortable pack

[@hermairtis27]

Utter respect for ya boys. Y'all definitely do what us Marines can't do and I know it's not said often but we appreciate the bullshit y'all go through, keep on truckin guys 😅😁

[@thebunnisher109]

We were given welded 1 inch steel tube Alice variants unlike anything I’ve ever seen with an enhanced horseshoe shaped hip belt bridle and canvas sack, by far the best I’ve used but I think it was a prototype. For context my personal ruck is a Tactical Tailor Malice frame with a Molle hip belt, frequently called a Hellcat setup, or I prefer the term lesbian pack.

[@jamesperalta7160]

Love this guy's knew them from soldiers react always love them been an inspiration for me I've always wanted to join the military and cuz of them it gets stronger and stronger luv this guy's

[@XInoAricinNilo]

Deja vu. I feel like I saw this EXACT video before. Another great video again never the less. You two deserve so many more subs than what you got

[@vaclavmajer5488]

Because its from yesterday

[@Koehnmando]

The Mystery Ranch looks pretty similar to a Berghaus Cyclops II Atlas, but much more expensive. The Berghaus has two side bags which can be separated from the Rucksack and be zipped together for a little independant Daypack. I must say I would never spend so much money on a Rucksack when there are similar solutions for less money. But a great Video and it was fun to watch

[@vincentfinniv5186]

I love the shift fire videos. You guys should do one where you pull out your personal arsenals AKA (Freedom seed dispensary systems)

[@michaelchanhthasenh]

I was young when I bought my first dream BOB which was the eberlestock battleship & it was everything I had seen & imagine to be like but the down side was.. I was underweight for the backpack itself & realistically speaking.. a person who's carrying over 3/4 his weight everyday is not ideal, you'll have more rest times before you get to objective a & so on but man I miss that bag had to let it go because I didn't want it to just collect dust & I knew someone out there would be better off with it then my underweight & the short person I am. I've always been a dooms day/prepper scenario thinker & your guys contents gives me a lot of insight on that part but then again I am also a backpack junky lol!

[@samc.1080]

I was going to watch this video yesterday. Looked like it was taken down and back on today 😐😁

[@istvanfarkas1660]

Cameron's hair from that last scene reminded me of Maxi's hair from the SoulCalibur fighting games. I laughed so hard when I saw it, I almost fell off of my chair!

[@KikumiChan]

Dropped everything and rushed to watch this in case I miss it again. 😂 Enriching my rucksack knowledge.

[@EddieLeal]

Enlisted in the Army/1990. Ft Jackson SC. We were issued the same old alice pack. Thank God for progress. 😉🤣

[@HVYBOY]

My most comfortable ruck is my mystery ranch mountain jump ruck. But man, there’s something about that MOLLE ruck.. very fond memories of that ruck and I as a young joe lol.

[@CbtWbt]

I usually run a skycrane from eberlestock. Solid pack and their range of accessories makes em pretty versatile

[@Jerec_Kets]

Just got my Shift Fire shirt in the mail. A little snug but will give me some inspiration to lose a bit of weight. 💪 Keep kicking ass.

[@ShiftFire]

Thanks for the support Jerec!!

[@thatpackguy]

Nice selection of rucks, they are all formidable packs

[@JonnyG3]

I have. 5.11 tactical 60L back pack and it’s awesome for me when I work out of town. It has so many pockets that I can easily live out of it for two weeks at a time

[@natestathes]

@bLackstar why exactly?

[@ka1eskards679]

FACTS about the creaking. Being a FO when I was in with all the fist equipment I could never escape the creaks lol.

[@siqinimi]

your pack at around 17 minutes is a simple copy of a very well pack from Gregory, the Denali pack. I have one myself, and, beside the color, it's an almost identical copy. It's heavy but so well balanced that you can easily carry a lot of weight with no problem

[@nailgunsniper]

“ACU has no place here!” CANNOT AGREE ENOUGH!!!😂

[@ableemu]

I watched and liked again to please the algorithm. Please keep making these great videos!

[@faux1736]

Hey Dutch air assault here. We have WAT different backpack systems. And i noticed you said as you can see all the weight is ontop of my shoulders. Which is super weird to me. Here in the dutch military we get taught to loosen the shoulder straps and get the hip strap (kidney strap) a bit tighter so the weight sits on your hips not your shoulders. Resulting into greater distances with more comfort

[@Blackbeard1323]

both are good choices when rucking big distances. Going back and forth with putting the weight on your shoulders and then switching it to your hips and vice versa.

[@haroldguillarawan9066]

Been using the alice pack for hiking mountains and it work. Though it sucks on the back but hey it's reliable and does you a favor by making you man up. 💪

[@undefeatedgaul3201]

Been rocking a cannae phalanx then upgraded to a karrimor sabre and now finally have settled on a mystery ranch Komodo dragon. Love all my babies but this one takes the cake

[@Clockwork0nions]

If you get some Rit clothing dye (the brown) ACU actually looks pretty good. Rit dye also isn't IR reflective, so its just as effective at night without the shine if you worry about such things :)

[@Spongeboobie]

Also it would be cool to see other Veterans you guys know maybe share stories or something if you’re looking for more ideas.

[@sauceboss47]

ayo that's similar to how I have my Alice set up too except my straps are the same but in woodland camo. I also threw in a piece of USMC iso mat to cover up that bar from digging into my back.

[@mwktacticaltailor2244]

Appreciate the shout out guys! Love the channel.

[@KSIREBEL]

Awesome vid Suggestion: Gloves comparison I always used Mechanix, ending up with M-Pact gloves

[@pederhalverson2591]

I have a couple of those. By far my fave pack is the Savotta Jaakari line though.

[@leeross3950]

If you do not like the squeak from the plastic frame of the MOLLE or FILBE rucksack you can place the rucks on an old ALICE frame pretty easy and still use the kidney pad and shoulder straps from the ALICE or MOLLE system, whichever you prefer. Look on YT for FALICE mods

[@cashew697]

ogs know this is a re-upload

[@julmdamaslefttoe3559]

had to get recommended this when I just bought a Kombat UK N.I Patrol Molle (BTP)

[@je710817]

Haha great vid guys ! Lots of fun watching it😁 ..ever tryed the Berghaus cyclops/Vulcan 100liter ? Or Lowe Alpine Saracen 120 liter? I used it as a infantryman in the Dutch army...also great shit

[@m.d.reynolds4022]

Thank you for the information. My old Alice needs an upgrade.

[@napsiuslebelche5846]

Really nice video ! I would have liked to see some Berghaus Vulcan Cyclops II, 100L for around 130€ (I guess it's something like 120$) on second hand stores. But anyway, now I want to see "daypacks" !

[@jimmyallugiveme8049]

it would be nice to see an episode of different countries rucks. Traded cold weather boots for a polish ruck from deployment, its way better then the Molle ruck from CIF

[@Hayyothhakodesh]

I'm a new subscriber thankyou soo much for making me laugh and just feeling some good ol fashioned joy 😊

[@patrickcomparan7023]

Maybe out cheap Vs expensive BDUs! Test the durability, comfort, and fit either slick or with a full kit.

[@matijatrost8878]

Could you do a comparison between external and internal frame rucks?

[@karlrothwell382]

Hey guys love the content I think you boys need to try the British MRE 's

[@epicplayer999]

Love it! I'd also love a video on helmets.

[@franks.8799]

Come on guys, how about loading the pack out and then running! Used the Med Alice truly a great ruck, but did not have the mods you all did, was in the Marine Corps in early 80's. Not even a padded waist/kidney belt. Thanks for a fun and informative vid. Semper Fi

[@SPK-kg8ml]

20:18, poor guy, he just wanted to be in the conclusion 😂

[@mattfleming86]

I kind of miss my old alice. I had the wrong size frame for me so I gave it to a buddy when I picked up a surplus british pack (honestly better for my needs) If I had the short frame, I probably would still have it.

[@terrysmith4831]

Excellent vedio. I too E.T.S.'s out of Ft. Lewis from C. Co. 214th Avn. Regt. in '91, a forever ago. My friends a I use ALICE medium packs. Each complete pack cost $25 off EBay about eight years ago. We replaced all the steel strap tenioners with Fastex clips, replaced the stright shoulder straps with curved ones with a chest strap. We replaced the hip pad with a MOLLE II hip pad and added two MOLLE II sustainment pouches and a MOLLE II sleep system carrier.total cost, under $100.

[@jonsgarage4994]

Sup guys keep up the great work 👍 love the videos.

[@samuel.w2917]

Spec ops cheap vs expensive rifles/optics/gear would be awesome

[@RavenRedwood]

Regarding modern rucksacks, it's important to remember that camouflage fabrics are very often in a lighter weight 500D cordura, whereas the solid colors are often in a heavier 1000 denier. You're trading concealment and a lighter base weight for durability. While I've beat the hell out of my 130L KarrimorSF ruck and the 500D held up decently, if I buy another one it will be a solid color in heavier canvas. You can always throw a camo cover or scrim on it if needed.

[@dranorcat44]

man i love the T.T. Malice Ruck. great for almost everything. especially considering i run mostly a W.A.S. patrol belt or V.S. jungle rig. perfect for systems like that when in heavy/extreme weather. ❄🌧🌩(high alt snow/humid marsh/frozen sleet/high alt plains heat), but it does need a proper waterproof cover. and to boot, pretty sure i'll die of old age before that metal frame dies.

[@spartin1173]

That frame will in fact outlive you and a few more generations of your family

[@georgeraguz5489]

I bought a Dana design in 1992 and no pack has displaced it. Still use it. Still looks great

[@murphy7801]

In the UK get a lot surplus Berghaus bergans. Has an internal frame and some nice features.

[@stepevin923]

Great post, as always.👍

[@Mordant.Melodys]

I’m a huge ruck guy. I actively ruck and carry buckets for exercise. There is something archaic about it, like this is what men do in the real world. Maybe it’s my infantry background. It also translates well to certain jobs (when I trained for fire fighting qualification I rucked 90 pounds on a stair-stepper every day) or for construction carrying heavy equipment. My favorite ruck, and this may be because I am a huge supporter of military made products, is the Go Ruck brand ruck sack. They are quality products and they sell accessories (flat weighted plates that insert into premade slots) that make them great for many purposes. I can exercise with it, then take the plate out and pack it to the brim with gear for a backpacking trip. Veteran owned and operated, super nice with cool variations, and finance option are available.

[@glenhoddinott3799]

Quickly becoming my favourite channel

[@garyfoster738]

great video as always. I'm old school. what do you think about the Blackhawk sof Ruck

[@MozarellaKing]

wasnt this uploaded earlier today already? confused

[@mattalvarez548]

I use a usmc filbe pack with an alice frame. Unfortunately, they didn’t allow us to bring it for deployment:(

[@oculus1857]

NANI!!!! Subscribed just for that.....and the ruck tossing reviews

[@joaquinvelasquez6252]

I had a small ALICE pack from a surplus store for 30$ and my soft sides bruised from the metal frame when I dove to the floor. I think my sides are a bit large 🤏 maybe I get a MOLY II and I can do barrel rolls?

[@bombomos]

What kind of Larping are you doing where you are floor diving?

[@joaquinvelasquez6252]

@@bombomos Paint ball mainly. I like to play all geared up.

[@Cavediver762]

The older Kifaru military stuff from when Mel was with them is fantastic if you can find it.

[@ianslaby5703]

Alice pack upgrades are super simple to do yourself. Learn to sow and spend a couple hours doing it. If something breaks you already know how to fix it.

[@christianbest4587]

Great video...Could you show how to pack a rucksack?? You guys have a good day

[@TheWaz0275]

Question: Which one is the most practical, or what are your thoughts, for when wearing a plate carrier/Chest rig/load bearing equipment and gear belt? As you guys know, you don’t need a military ruck when you’re camping or hiking or anytime you’re anywhere where you don’t have to wear body armor or tactical gear etc. Hip belts and sternum straps are a cruel joke or just don’t work with chest rigs/plates/gear belts/LBE etc. Also, how’s the mystery ranch work wearing a helmets? is there enough clearance behind the head? Thanks

[@JakeReillyEDM]

The company is called Mystery Ranch, because it's a mystery as to where you're going to find the money to buy one of their rucks. You get what you pay for, and they are the tip of the spear in terms of quality. Also, can we get a "Ruck Toss" competition? Just a bunch of old UCP MOLLE II packs with different weights in them being tossed as far as you can throw them.

[@Sam_of_Anarchy92]

could you guys do a segment on EDC (Everyday Carry) such as guns, knives etc

[@kilroy920]

I have the Mystery Ranch Blackjack 100 and it’s easily one of the best pieces of kit I’ve purchased

[@prominence2826]

It better be😂that’s a $1000 ruck

[@enrique78109]

Best ruck I’ve owned next to a Rhino Ruck.