Speed loaders for revolvers (Safariland vs HKS)

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@tacman2893
@tacman2893 9 жыл бұрын
Greetings! I carried a revolver (S&W model 10) for years as an LEO and my agency issued the Safariland Comp II's. I have used the HKS as well both on duty and in competition but always did find the Safariland easier to use and faster. I still am a "revolver guy" but I haven't been able to carry a revolver since 1999 on duty. All auto pistols now. Thanks for doing this video. Good to see a revolver getting used and used quite well I might add! Stay safe!
@CitrusCountyBeatnik
@CitrusCountyBeatnik 4 жыл бұрын
I just got rid of my two 45 ACP's and bought two Ruger revolvers. Revolvers have no safety, always ready to fire - and an auto-loader jam can get you killed.
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 11 ай бұрын
@@CitrusCountyBeatnikummm 🤨
@trad9178
@trad9178 9 жыл бұрын
There is an additional significant advantage I have found to the Safariland loader as well, over the HKS. The Safariland loaders are MUCH more SECURE as far as carrying loose in either a pocket or purse or fanny pack, etc. Why? I have found the HKS loaders to prematurely eject the rounds, causing them to all fall out because it's quite easy to nudge or bump the knob on the HKS loader. The Safariland model however, because of it's design where you actually push on the body has a trigger system that is not exposed at all. It's hidden way up underneath on the loader itself and is surrounded by the actual rounds it is carrying. So while the Safarilands can cost a little more, there is no comparison in design or quality as far as I'm concerned. The only reason I haven't thrown away my HKS, is because I'm a bit of a hoarder. But they are junk compared to the Safarilands which are not only much faster, better built, and as I say are MUCH more secure. They do NOT prematurely unload and only release when you deliberately intend them to.
@matthewcaughey8898
@matthewcaughey8898 3 жыл бұрын
Just like spare mags you shouldn’t be carrying a speed loader “ loose” they make those pouches for it and in those cases the HKS is superior cause the high knob makes it easier to pull from the pouch.
@Roscoe_357
@Roscoe_357 2 жыл бұрын
Idk Why He Twist & Wiggle W/ The Comp II'S.. HKS Tic I'm Sure
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent feedback... Thanks for helping me understand that. I'll get one of the #586 and see how that does. Thanks for watching.
@jdh91741
@jdh91741 8 жыл бұрын
Just when I went a bought two HKS speed loaders only yesterday. I'm ordering Safariland today. Good video. Many thanks
@moreme40
@moreme40 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a Safariland yesterday and I think I made the right choice over the HKS
@padraiccallahan7258
@padraiccallahan7258 8 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Safariland Speedloader for my Model 66. My local gun shop recommended it over the HKS. Looks like they know what they are talking about. Thanks for the very helpful video.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 жыл бұрын
Your technique is the way to do it. My left hand and arm has very limited mobility so I have to do what I do. However, for anyone with two normal hands, your suggestion is preferred. Thanks for sharing that with folks!
@Scowguy
@Scowguy 10 жыл бұрын
The HKS works well if once you twist to release, just let go of it completely. If the revolver is facing straight down, the rounds drop in and when you close the cylinder the speedloader drops away. I don't have the safariland to compare with and the safariland might be better, but with a little technique practice the hks is pretty darn fast.
@lugin4guvistf773
@lugin4guvistf773 5 жыл бұрын
you nailed it Joe! I can see the advantage with the SafariLand but PROPER TECHNIQUE Will Remedy Most Probs with the HKSs
@matthewcaughey8898
@matthewcaughey8898 3 жыл бұрын
@@lugin4guvistf773 the HKS was around long before the safariland Denver existed
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 11 ай бұрын
@@matthewcaughey8898yeah so?
@JesseCross-bg8fr
@JesseCross-bg8fr 5 ай бұрын
You speak truth. I’ve had 4 hks’s for a week and after a little practice I learned that if you have the revolver facing down vertically they drop right in. I don’t know why all these grown men are having such a hard time simply twisting and releasing. But yes. They work excellently and they are very affordable. I’m buying more.
@Cucurú-c9v
@Cucurú-c9v 2 ай бұрын
​@@JesseCross-bg8frYep. Push twist, the release. More to do, more fun using HKS. Safariland, push, done. Less bother less fun. Take it from the pros. Safariland speed loaders are better. I've used nearly every brand produced, even ones I can't remember their name and that you may never have heard of. Strange how people criticize what's proven to be best. Just keep twisting and shouting.
@luke928
@luke928 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone on here is a critic and armchair gunslinger. Thank you sir for showing those of us who don’t know everything. Because of you, I will likely be getting the safariland. Your informative video and hard work is appreciated. Please keep it up.
@tiggerr42431
@tiggerr42431 9 жыл бұрын
This is a very useful video for me to see. I have ordered two of the Safariland and two of the HKS for my GP100 of the proper models and I will try both and see how it goes. It is good to have options.
@Mikewar1230
@Mikewar1230 9 жыл бұрын
+tiggerr42431 which did you end up liking better? I have the HKS (the correct model:586) and think they are really fast. Were the Safariland ones much better?
@tiggerr42431
@tiggerr42431 9 жыл бұрын
Both are worth the money. I use the HKS more just because I have the belt carrier used more in the field. The other one I use at the range more for speed.
@Lawrence64
@Lawrence64 11 жыл бұрын
Man I tell you. You really mastered and optimized to your condition. You do it pretty well. 2 Thumbs up.
@circle43cm
@circle43cm 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review - easy to understand, especially with the care you took to get a good camera angle. I have a S&W 681 for casual shooting but of course a reload could be handy. You have sold me on the Safariland, they are $9 at Midway.
@A_SPEC_OF_DUST_IN_THE_UNIVERSE
@A_SPEC_OF_DUST_IN_THE_UNIVERSE 10 жыл бұрын
nice video, pretty fast reloading considering your personal issue,,,2 thumbs up my friend. :)
@jimunderwoodthepilot
@jimunderwoodthepilot 7 жыл бұрын
These Safariland loaders are killer! Saw this video and ordered a couple off of Amazon for my Redhawk 7.5". TONS BETTER than my HKS! Thanks Brother, great video.
@jamesgusto4275
@jamesgusto4275 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I bought a speedloader holster on ebay that came with one of each. I couldn't get the Safariland one to work because I wasusin it wrong. Now it works like a charm!
@Narsuitus
@Narsuitus 6 күн бұрын
I have been shooting revolvers since the late 1960s. I have never used Safariland speedloaders. I have only used 38 special and 357 magnum HKS speedloaders. I own three HKS model 10-A speed loaders for the 5-inch 38 special revolver that I inherited from my grandfather. I own eleven HKS model 27-A speed loaders for the 6-inch 357-magnum revolver that replaced my stolen snub-nose Colt Lawman 357-magnum. Once, I accidentally purchased an HKS 5-shot speedloader. I contacted Sharon Farris, the HKS sales manager, who was very helpful. She replaced my 5-shot speedloader with the correct six-shot speedloader. I only have good things to say about HKS.
@kingsxfan99
@kingsxfan99 11 жыл бұрын
Another great vid. I'm getting a GP100 soon, and you just made up my mind about which speedloaders I will be investing in. Thanks!
@stevenlamar6927
@stevenlamar6927 5 жыл бұрын
I could not be more impressed with this video I just bought a gp100 thanks you for the review
@sackett68
@sackett68 11 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! You've convinced me to pick up a couple for my GP100.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography 9 жыл бұрын
It would help if you had the correct sized HKS speed loaders for you 686 which takes the 586-A model loaders. The 10-A loaders are for K-frames like the Model 10, 15, 19 etc. The 586-A loaders are for L-frames the the 686.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 9 жыл бұрын
classicMaxReviews Thanks for your insight and for watching.
@roteroktober360
@roteroktober360 4 жыл бұрын
why dont the 6 shot revolvers all take the same speedloaders
@Beuwen_The_Dragon
@Beuwen_The_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@roteroktober360 because there are different sizes of revolvers… There are small frame .357 revolvers, medium frame .357 revolvers, Large frame .357 revolvers and even Extra large .357 revolvers. There are 5 shot revolvers, 6 shot revolvers, 7 shot revolvers, 8, 9 and 10 shot revolvers. There are .32 calibre revolvers, 9mm revolvers, .38 longs, shorts, specials, .44s, .45s, .500s and so on… Point is, there are a lot of different sizes and calibers of revolvers.
@roteroktober360
@roteroktober360 2 жыл бұрын
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon thx for the info but i already figured that out some time later :D
@kirktrof
@kirktrof Ай бұрын
I’ve used both, and conceal carried using pouches which hold three in front of belt, three behind. The safari land activates against belt and dumps the rounds. I’ve found the has secure. They may be slower, but I want my rounds in the loader and not on the ground
@cjykqn
@cjykqn 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that historians like this guy preserve this stuff for future generations
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 3 жыл бұрын
Someone has to! Seriously, revolvers are good tools and the can really help trigger control and trigger management.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 жыл бұрын
I need to try those.... thanks for the suggestion
@cielopachirisu929
@cielopachirisu929 8 жыл бұрын
It is very nice to see that somebody finally made a speedloader that doesn't require you to awkwardly turn a tight, teensy knob-- on top of a cylinder that _also_ spins. Completely counter-intuitive. _Never_ liked the HKS speedloaders. Got a couple of used COMP 1's today and dang, unless these break I'm not going back.
@W1ldt1m
@W1ldt1m 5 жыл бұрын
Finally? They have been out since the seventies.
@NHinPA
@NHinPA 11 жыл бұрын
Sorry, still getting used to the new KZbin app. Ditto what akin said below regarding the #586 HKS Speedloaders as I use them in my 686 and no wiggle is needed. I use the 10A in my 66 and model10 without issues. Great video and I am a NH native who now lives in PA, hence the name!! Great video!
@peteflores7031
@peteflores7031 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, I bought me 2 of the Safariland comp 2. I really like them, as far as putting in the bullets. I just put the bullets in, put my left hand over the bullets. Then I bring my left hand around where the bullets face down and push the knob down and turn the knob to right to lock the in. Done, easy to do. Love them.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear!
@swordfish1120
@swordfish1120 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice review with excellent real world testing with pros and cons. I've been looking for a couple of speed loaders for my S&W M36. I think I'll look for the Safariland.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 жыл бұрын
I will have to check those out. Thanks for the suggestion
@x1pyroveride
@x1pyroveride 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, was looking at speed loaders on amazon for my truck revolver. looked at the hks and saw the safariland just today and will defiantly go with safariland, Thanks a bunch!
@philregular1465
@philregular1465 4 жыл бұрын
defiantly? Yeah, show those MF's who's boss!!
@x1pyroveride
@x1pyroveride 4 жыл бұрын
@@philregular1465 ahh why hello mr. grammar nazi, another day of spell check genocide?
@robertnabors9230
@robertnabors9230 4 жыл бұрын
I USE BOTH KINDS AND THE HKS SEEMS TO BE THE BETTER ONE,I'VE HAD TO SPRAY THE OTHER WITH SYNTHETIC LUBE TO MAKE SMOOTHER ACTION OF THE RELELEASE OF DROPING THE BULLETS
@stephaneguezou6895
@stephaneguezou6895 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, Thank you very much for this video. The answer I was looking for. Greetings from France. Stéphane
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Hope you'll watch our other videos. Merci!
@MDMiller60
@MDMiller60 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for turning me on to the Safariland. I have two HKS's. (and a strip which I have stopped using right away.
@gregchinn3938
@gregchinn3938 9 жыл бұрын
I have a 686 and the proper HKS loaders. If you transfer left to right from a 2 handed grip, release the cylinder with the right thump, open with the left fingers and grab the reloader by the release knob (not the speedloader cylinder) by the right hand, close the 686 cylinder with the left thumb, and transfer to a 2 handed left grip it would go faster. As for the speedloaders themselves, the HKS will never release prematurely in a pressure combat situation as you can't turn the knob unless the rounds are partially in the cylinder. I've seen the Safariland style pressed prior to insertion by novices.
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 11 ай бұрын
Safariland is better
@judofry
@judofry 9 жыл бұрын
Cool, never seen that reloading technique, slick way to compensate for the off hand
@richardadamo6246
@richardadamo6246 9 жыл бұрын
Great job on your video! Which, in fact, has encouraged me to purchase a speed loader or two and practice at the range. Have not considered the Safariland up until this point.
@N0MAD17
@N0MAD17 8 жыл бұрын
You're using the wrong HKS. You should use the HKS 586. That said the Safariland is faster for those who don't practice. HKS may spin the cylinder when twisting. Simply holding the cylinder prevents that problem. I have both and find no difference if I hold the cylinder. The HKS 10 I have is for my Dan Wesson revolver model 15.
@LS1LE
@LS1LE 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration!! Even better explanation!! Thank you!
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JimmyCricket61258
@JimmyCricket61258 11 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try the safariland...thanks for a informative comparison
@drewbob3030
@drewbob3030 6 жыл бұрын
I've used Safariland Comp speed loaders since the 80s. I've tried HKS loaders for my K and J frame revolvers and always go back to Safariland for the same reasons.
@robertbell6
@robertbell6 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent Excellent vid, I was just about to click buy and pick up the HKS until I saw this video. Thanks sir!
@ppp-youtube7022
@ppp-youtube7022 4 жыл бұрын
"im not good with revolvers" owns a double action revolver
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. Actually I own several revolvers. While not my primary sidearm, I do enjoy and appreciate them. I also believe in working different types of pistols and revolvers to have basic proficiency with them.
@rabdj
@rabdj 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sharing this video, I got mine and I'm very happy with it. Safariland is the way to go! God Bless!
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 жыл бұрын
We agree... thanks for watching and commenting.
@jfm75231
@jfm75231 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. Finally a product review by someone like me. Thank you, it helped me make my decision.
@JanoSFX
@JanoSFX 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the reload technique. I've never seen it before, but I'm trying it out. Does it have a name? Did you develop it, it learn it from somebody? I'm practicing and taking notes on the pros and cons compared to the FBI, FLETC, StressFire, and weak hand competition reload. Will share when ready.
@wac8516
@wac8516 9 ай бұрын
i was looking at these loaders and with your vid you made up my mind thanks
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 9 ай бұрын
Glad I could help! I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel and sharing with friends and family.
@ZombieMasterEd25
@ZombieMasterEd25 8 жыл бұрын
very cool I was looking for a video to the Safariland push button loader and I see that you're disabled firearm owner therefore I'm subscribing I'm going to recommend your video to a few other my subscribers we disabled functional gun owners gotta stick together I love my Smith and Wesson 686 it's an original from 1991 before they messed up the tooling in the millennium decade
@Peroni1973
@Peroni1973 11 жыл бұрын
Loved this review and your candid comments and williness to move on from what you are more familiar (HKS) to what simply works better (Safariland). You enthusiastic "...freaking awesome!" made me smile. Thanks! Ben
@CombatVetTom
@CombatVetTom 10 жыл бұрын
I really need to practice for a faster reload with my J Frame(s) and my Safariland. Thanks for the share.
@SacoreyRugger
@SacoreyRugger 9 жыл бұрын
Well, the hks10, is meant for k frames, that l frame has a different size cylinder
@SacoreyRugger
@SacoreyRugger 8 жыл бұрын
uh thanks?
@pinoywheelgunner
@pinoywheelgunner 4 ай бұрын
To reduce or even eliminate that sticking shells in the knob type speedloader, lightly oil the rim of the ammo or periodically scrub with metal polish. They slide effortlessly.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the tip. I think that would apply for most situations specifically at the range. However, many people carry their speed loader in a pocket. This means that lightly oiled rim is likely to collect lint and dust particles. That being said, I’m going to give your suggestion a try when I go to the range this weekend. It’s been a bit since I’ve shot my revolvers and I simply love shooting them! Thanks for commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing and sharing the channel with friends and family.
@vedymin1
@vedymin1 5 жыл бұрын
Would be great to have replacable cylinders without weakening the design, that could work like magazines. One could be even faster than with a speed loader, just swing out, it falls out and put a fresh one in without fiddling with emptying the old cylinder and matching the new rounds with openings.
@Beuwen_The_Dragon
@Beuwen_The_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
Conceptually, it is ‘possible”, but in practice would not work for a duty/defence firearm. Revolver cylinders rely on a ratchet system which would be susceptible to dents and damage if speedily discarded like a magazine after use. A simplified version of this concept is full Moon clips, where all the cartridges are connected and you simply drop them all into the cylinder at once. Fact is, technologically, revolvers are at their peak of practical design.
@matthall8378
@matthall8378 5 жыл бұрын
I got a Safariland j-k2c comp 2 for my Rossi 462 and it didn't fit the gun at all. The bullets didn't fit in the chamber and it was bulky and touching the grip and release. I see the hks 10-a and people say fits the gun great. I'm about to try it. IDK why both wouldn't work as both models are suppose to fit the same kind of guns??
@dcar335i
@dcar335i 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice shooting for not practicing much! I like the Safariland but I wonder if it will work with my 642 J frame or if there will be issues clearing the stock grips. I really enjoy your videos, keep them coming... How about more classic pistol firearms - 1911, Luger, Hi Power, CZ, Colt, S&W, lever gun combo's.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 жыл бұрын
My pleasure thanks for watching!
@jonerdmann6512
@jonerdmann6512 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, still being watched in 2021
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jamescriswell3937
@jamescriswell3937 9 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely impressed with the Safariland speed loader...I have a Rossi R462 357mag but don't see any listing at all for my model on their website. Does anyone know what that would compare to? They have them bracketed into "groups" 3, 4, 5 & 6. Thanks! ~JC
@Just_Chuck_It
@Just_Chuck_It 6 жыл бұрын
A handicap is only a handicap if you allow it to be. You my friend, have NO handicap. Keep training and keep improving your skills! Happy Memorial Day
@pimplystikage836
@pimplystikage836 7 жыл бұрын
You really need to grab a speed loader pouch. That said I did try Safariland loaders and like them but I already have a cigar box full of HKS for my .38 special k frames. When I pick up my next revolver (S&W 44 mag) I'll probably go with Safariland for it.
@jamestollett
@jamestollett 10 жыл бұрын
Randomly found this video. One thing thing may increase your speed is to keep the speed loaders to the right side of your belt buckle. your much more proficient (and faast) with what your doing than than 80% of most people I have see.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 жыл бұрын
Sir thank you for watching and commenting. Great suggestion of moving the speed loader to the right side.
@kevinrey9427
@kevinrey9427 10 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable, informative video with useful information. Thanks for making it!
@SunsTo7
@SunsTo7 8 жыл бұрын
Very good demo, thanks, it helps to know before spending money.
@b2ja03
@b2ja03 10 жыл бұрын
U should be using the hks 586-A for the GP100
@davidahdoot6769
@davidahdoot6769 5 жыл бұрын
While I agree the Safariland is better and faster than the HKS, it should be noted you are using the wrong size HKS. The HKS Model 10 is for the S&W K frame (Model 10, 14, 19, etc) the 686 is an L-Frame, the HKS Model 586 is the correct size for your revolver.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@robertfarrow4256
@robertfarrow4256 4 жыл бұрын
This was very useful for me. Thank you!
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are available form Amazon. They really work far better than the HKS. Give them a try!
@derikr96
@derikr96 6 жыл бұрын
Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC if you really like those I would try the speed bees they are superior to the Safari Land jet loaders or even this far away and compensation 3 the only problem I have with the jet loaders over a speed loader is that in a field they can prematurely eject the rounds so when you go for your loader you won't have any there but it all pertains to practice a newer person can definitely use a jet loader quicker but a competition shooter will actually take a speed loader over jet loader because of the pre mature release
@georgesaliba7463
@georgesaliba7463 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 1967 Colt Cobra 38 Special, 6 shot cylinder, and am having difficulty finding the correct Safariland COMP II Speedloader. I ordered the J--3PC, but it is a couple of millimeters wider than my cylinder. Need something slightly smaller. Can you help ? Thanks !
@thegunnut221
@thegunnut221 6 жыл бұрын
I don't have to jiggle my HKS speedloaders with my 6 shot GP 100. Cartridges fall straight in the cylinder. Too easy.
@danmattson2562
@danmattson2562 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks for posting this, very informative.
@MrHockaluger
@MrHockaluger 11 жыл бұрын
If you can ever find them, you should also try the SL Variant speedloaders. Similar to Safarilands, but they are spring loaded so rounds shoot straight into the cylinder instead of having to rely on gravity to drop rounds.
@nomansland4811
@nomansland4811 3 жыл бұрын
Safariland all day over any other loader. I have had 2 fail over the years (many years) but the failure involves them failing to even grab the rounds and lock in place. These were high mileage loaders though. Never had a failure of a loaded loader or an accidental dump as I’ve had with others.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting and watching.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 жыл бұрын
I have not, but will try to locate a few.
@karlhoss6840
@karlhoss6840 7 жыл бұрын
I use both, HKS feels more durable and "positive", the Safariland is maybe a bit quicker if you're trying to shave tenths of a second off your times.......main advantage is I can use Safariland speedloaders with my off hand, HKS requires switching hands. Overall 2x2x2 pouches are my favorite for just overall carry and training. Speedloaders have gotten fumbly or sticky on me too many times.
@johnryan296
@johnryan296 6 жыл бұрын
Scott, what is the 2x2x2 pouch?
@Beuwen_The_Dragon
@Beuwen_The_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnryan296 a usually leather pouch which holds 6 cartridges in three pairs, allowing you to grab two at a time for rather quick reloads. (IE, reload two cartridges in the time it takes to reload one individually.)
@PeaceBeWithYourSoul
@PeaceBeWithYourSoul 10 жыл бұрын
I have three safariland, never used the HKS. I am now looking for speedstrips, because I am not going to be carrying any speedloader as backup ammo any time ever, except in wintertime in a heavy coat. However, a speedstrip is possible in the summertime, even in shorts or light slacks. ps- tell me again, what do you say at the beginning of each video? And, you are in N.H.? Another New Englander here, but of the Nutmeg variety. Do you have a video explaining your business, and what classes you offer?
@jonwithnoh7
@jonwithnoh7 11 жыл бұрын
Wishse, you mention you use the #10 HKS speedloader for your 686. The HKS #10 is better suited to the K frame S&W models, (Like the Model 10 38 special). HKS makes a #586 speedloader sized better for the L frame 686. Cylinder hole spacing is just a bit wider and inserts much smoother. I have used the #10 HKS in my 686, but it is not as fast or smooth. BTW I prefer the Safariland Comp II's also, for the same reasons you state.
@mmabagain
@mmabagain 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe this has been asked before but, would you burn your fingers after firing 6 rounds of 357 if sticking them in the open cylinder area as you do in the video? BTW, love that older Smith without the built in self locking mechanism.
@Beuwen_The_Dragon
@Beuwen_The_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
If you are shooting black powder, sure, your gun will heat up fast. But with modern propellants, at only 5-8 shots at a time, it won’t not get so hot as to become untouchable.
@reidkemp
@reidkemp 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I have a 38spl model 10 and I would love to get a speed loader like this for practice.. if only ammo was available 😑
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 3 жыл бұрын
The ammo shortage will continue to be a problem for at least 2 more years. And most people cannot afford $1 per round or more.
@MD4ME
@MD4ME 8 жыл бұрын
Great product and demo.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 жыл бұрын
Any gun that allows you to get hits on targets will do for self-defense. Many revolver guys I know are exceptional marksmen. Thanks for watching and commenting. You EDC should like a sweet rig to me!
@antpeople1629
@antpeople1629 3 жыл бұрын
In Hong Kong Completing the loading and unloading of the revolver within 3 seconds is an indispensable skill for the police (HKS speedloader using)
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 3 жыл бұрын
Very true! Thanks for commenting.
@johnnorman7708
@johnnorman7708 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. Point of clarification. Which model HKS loader are you using with that Smith 686? If it's a 10, it's the wrong one for the L frame .38/. 357 guns. Might explain the binding.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct. I was using the wrong one for this revolver. Have since replaced those
@djperezhitparade
@djperezhitparade 8 жыл бұрын
I know this is not the topic of this Video but I would like to know how do you like those earmuff? Do they work properly? Do they worth the money that you paid for them? How about the overall quality?
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 8 жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of quality electronic ear muffs. I believe the ones in this vedio are Pro Ears. These cost about $120. They're good. However a year ago, I bought a pair of MSA Supreme Pro X. $300. Best investment I've made in years. us.msasafety.com/Hearing-Protection/Headband,-Electronic-Ear-Muffs/Supreme%26reg%3B-Pro-X-Earmuff/p/000090007600001028
@Eclispestar
@Eclispestar 4 жыл бұрын
I picked up 2 Safari land Im quite happy with them.
@azmrblack
@azmrblack 10 жыл бұрын
Fyi, the HKS 10 is designed for K frame S&W while the HKS 586A is designed for L frame S&W such as your 686/GP100. Still I like the Safariland better.
@8MCDonalds8
@8MCDonalds8 7 жыл бұрын
I really like the clicking noise of the cylinder. Mine doesn't do that. Total old West sound.
@pscjavvy
@pscjavvy 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Just picked up a few Safarland loaders. Can you provide information on your ear protection and camera mounting? Very interested in getting this setup. Thank you in advance!
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 4 жыл бұрын
Contour 2 Plus camera mounted to my ear protection.
@resori33
@resori33 9 жыл бұрын
NH represent! ahh always wanted to do that, nice video.
@MrMrannoying
@MrMrannoying 4 жыл бұрын
Just randomly here from seeing the main character of Trigun use one of these. Wanted to see if it was a real thing haha
@matthewcaughey8898
@matthewcaughey8898 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not hard to use just requires training for the memory. However unlike Vash’s gun which opens like the old school schofield revolvers with a top break most modern revolvers run a side drop cylinder. Now if someone could figure out how to make a modern top break revolver that could take .357 it would eliminate the need for a lefty to train extra hard like I do
@AdventInnovative
@AdventInnovative 8 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why you were switching hands to reload until... 4:20
@jonerdmann6512
@jonerdmann6512 3 жыл бұрын
He has a disability, and doing real good with it.
@edc357ian
@edc357ian 11 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I switched to the comp two for my GP 100. They are faster and easier than the HSK.
@BarrettMaki
@BarrettMaki Жыл бұрын
Yes, the Safariland is much quicker. The thing I don't like about the HKS is you have to hold the cylinder in place or the knob will turn the cylinder. You then have to let go of the cylinder to close the cylinder. Not much time but a split second can make a difference. With the Safariland - shoot until empty, simultaneously engage the cylinder release with your right thumb while using your left hand to swing the cylinder out, simultaneously grab the gun with your left hand with it pointing up and eject the spent shells with your thumb WHILE using your right hand to grab the Safariland speedloader, then bring the gun and the speed loader together.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC Жыл бұрын
Good insights and perspectives! Thanks for sharing. Hope you'll subscribe!
@davesbackyardchickensandou3905
@davesbackyardchickensandou3905 5 жыл бұрын
thanks buddy now I know which ones to order
@MichaelPace2.0
@MichaelPace2.0 8 жыл бұрын
Great vid, keep it up sir!
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting and watching.
@MastahDriver
@MastahDriver 8 жыл бұрын
I like how you reload the revolver. I use many variations of speed loading revolvers. But the one issue I have with speed loading a revolver is being able to reload while getting low in different positions behind cover. I think your way might be my answer for speed loading while getting low behind cover and still being able to have full comfortable control of the weapon. --SheepDog
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 8 жыл бұрын
+Command MastaCheef The key is to practice with with dummy rounds / snap caps. Do it for 10 minutes a day in the morning and again at night. Try it in low or no light conditions, do it when walking around your house. In a week, you'll be amazed at your capabilities.
@MastahDriver
@MastahDriver 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I'm going to try how you hold the revolver when reloading. --SheepDog
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 11 ай бұрын
@@MastahDriverI usually hand my revolver to my wife when it needs to be reloaded.
@garybyrne2605
@garybyrne2605 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video, you rock.
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@Allinoffroad
@Allinoffroad 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video what kind of grips are those there very nice
@Machi74005
@Machi74005 11 жыл бұрын
I would like to buy some Safariland speed loaders but no firearms dealers or gun shows in my area have them. I presume they can be purchased online?
@hpgproducepatch
@hpgproducepatch 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it. Ignore the negative comments. Those guys just wish they were you!
@Liehsc
@Liehsc 11 жыл бұрын
Have you tried 5 STAR speed loaders? These are my favorite for a j-frame.
@electron4784
@electron4784 3 жыл бұрын
That was very helpful thanks
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC
@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
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