Speedhack your mid drive ebike - remove speed limiter

How to remove the speed limiter on a mid drive ebike
In this video I'll show you how to bypass, hack or trick your electric bike speed limiter on the e bike speed controller so you can go faster! It's a very easy hack and is easily reversed if you need to get it back to factory settings.

[@H0gyoku]

Wel this worked better than i expected

[@stuartjamieson2427]

Did it work for you

[@alanwatson3668]

Do sixteen mile range and you'll find out it will stop running

[@monkeytron5061]

Absolutely brilliant. I’ll just use this tip for a bit of fun now and again. So easy. Thank you!

[@DEK426]

ZIP TIES MY FRIEND...NOT DRILLING THE FRAME

[@danielcaigou6403]

Yes yes...we've been over this.

[@wills099]

Did it ever break where that hole is or is it still holding strong

[@alextalmage9998]

Made some sick come up when he got the drill out!!

[@wavemaker54]

I drilled holes all over my bike and it weighs hardly anything anymore. I keep getting a whistling sound when the wind blows through the holes. I tried zip ties but they wont hold it together at all. (just joking) That’s got to be the worst thing to do, even on a senior’s tricycle.

[@danielcaigou6403]

So 4 years later and that hole has caused zero issues. Still... agree. Use a zip tie

[@jonathonwarner7752]

Omg, just done this tool 5 mins and it’s flying 🤣🤣 nice one dude

[@scootscoot97warlock90]

never seen an ebike with a magnet, but cool idea. My ebike doesnt have that setup. However I did lookup what color wire on my bike is the limiter.

[@habeascorpus1]

What if you just move the magnet on the wheel away from the sensor? Would that not fool the sensor?

[@michellejunkere4916]

Sorry just wondering if you needed to buy the extra magnet or if you could just use that one

[@doubleimage]

It works,brilliant.

[@danielneil4523]

Hey this worked like a charm. Thanks for the video. My Giant explore stock would do 32km/hr and then cut out/in. After your mod I can get to ~44km/hr. I personally find that 36km/hr is a comfortable riding speed for backroads in Alberta mountains. Hardest part was running to the hardware store to get a tamper proof torx. Enjoying the bike a lot more and no problems as of yet

[@mlee6050]

I would of just used an Allen bolt like me on my next bike, and pitlock has thing to put in to make the Allen bolt unable to remove without pitlock key you get

[@tylerandsandiescott2893]

Is it still holding up? Albertan here as well. Was thinking about doing this to my bike.

[@briannlambert404]

Will this work on Cyclotricity Revolver Hybrid 250w , as i just got one coming next week ,

[@adrianyueng3489]

Hi, Will this hack works with Bosch Active line 2014 (1st gen?). I don't think any restriction or software limitation applied to these early models.

[@lindsaymcdowell6176]

This worked like a dream for me. I would now like to fit a 38 or 40 tooth chainwheel to my Giant Talon ebike to enable me to maintain a higher speed with lower pedal revolutions. To date I have not been able to locate one in Australia. If anyone can assist would be appreciated.

[@geemy9675]

what happens if you remove the magnet, I guess you tried? 0mph ? no assist ? i would think a torque sensor based mid drive would still work unless they programmed no assist if the speedometer doesnt detect speed.

[@user619tlsdca5]

You can also change Prefrance of the size of tires. Only if you have smaller than 28inch or 700c. Setting that wheel size on 26 inch ( goes up 1.5 to 2 mph more throttle only)and smaller will increase speed unless you have a locked controller than you have to listen to this video and others...

[@dave-vl7kl]

it give you just a fake speed, the controller need your tire size to calculate your speed....

[@mrshowtime7465]

Instead of drilling a hole you can zipped tie it or used double sided tape. Great video 👍🏽

[@adamwilliams5426]

I did this with zip ties too, I would not drill into the frame that would give me a panic attack :D

[@tinker-time]

Can't do this to the bosch xc motors, they have add software to stop it been done , found today 24th of April 2021

[@BlackSupraC2]

hey curious if a year later you have found a workaround with the bosch motors.

[@TravelCarsPasicevoPhotography]

Do someone have problem when all put back in original state? When I put it back on yamaha pw st, display is blinking (range, odo etc) and speed sensor doesnt pick up spee (0 km /h) motor is workimg, I ve tested through diagnostics , and in diagnostic program is showing no of turnings of the wheel Bike is haibike alltrail 6

[@arnaldoreyes6650]

Thank you Daniel, just tried it om my naicisports x5 with bafang motor and it works well speed beyond 30km/hr... can somebody give me an idea on the ebike performance if used for a longer and continuous ride...ty

[@ardituwaga1235]

thank you Daniel, it's work for my ebike...

[@jdgoesham5381]

Many times there is a limiter connected to the battery going to the controller. Another way is to see what type of language your controller /screen uses like KT for one eg and get a new computer for your controller. Which he kind of mentions.

[@HDsharp]

What if the ebike is only a 250w front hub motor (pedal asist) and doesn't have the magnet on the wheel you're explaining. Is that bike's motor just too weak to travel more 16mph?

[@krokodilen31]

This won't work with hub motors.

[@lisagye]

Is there a trick to removing the limiter? I've tried a screwdriver and an allen key but nothing worked

[@joaomarveloso1049]

I wonder if this can work on ebikes with motors in wheels?

[@HuntingCreed]

Great hack.... This guy is always thinking of quick, cheap, effective ways to make things work! (Looked a bit dodgy riding the bike with your phone and trying to video....)

[@Glen-yr3fz]

What happens if you just take the magnet off?

[@L8R2YA]

Thank you ! That was doing my head in

[@davidb9111]

Hello Daniel, Wrote to you a little while ago. Now that the summer is practically over here in Europe I wanted to start the hack process on my GIANT ebike, but surprise, the firm GIANT are not stupid, to take off the sensor the surprise was a nippled torx screw, in other words I needed a hollow torx screwdriver which I didn't have to take the sensor off. I managed to send out an order to Amazon for a set of 32 pcs to fix on a screw driver. The order will be arriving tomorrow so I'll keep you posted on the follow up, Cheers mate.

[@zhonggonghao7440]

You are not alone. It took me more than 30 minutes to find the right scredriver, because my Giant has chain protecting case, I could hardly see the screw! I have a 'Giant GrandTour E+ 1 2018' with a Yamaha motor (60 Nm, 250 W). I tried this method. After putting the magnet on the pedal I got two outcomes, 1) the motor works only a little bit, basically it is not working. 2) After changing the position of the magnet several times at last the motor works as before the delimiting, namely the Ebike moves maximal 25 Kmh. In both case the speed display display from 4 to 99 kmh. Anyone has any advice? Thanks in advance! My guss is: there is a maximal working limit for this Yamaha motor and the motor working limit cannot be surpassed even we change the position of the magnet.

[@zhonggonghao7440]

I have a 'Giant GrandTour E+ 1 2018' with a Yamaha motor (60 Nm, 250 W). I tried this method. After putting the magnet on the pedal I got two outcomes, 1) the motor works only a little bit, basically it is not working. 2) After changing the position of the magnet several times at last the motor works as before the delimiting, namely the Ebike moves maximal 25 Kmh. In both case the speed display display from 4 to 99 kmh. Anyone has any advice? Thanks in advance! My guss is: the position of the magnet plays an important role and there is a maximal working limit for this Yamaha motor and the motor working limit cannot be surpassed even we change the position of the magnet.

[@jonathanelliot-yv1yt]

How old is your bike e-bikes have boxes now not magnetic to over coke this issue

[@Midwest79]

What's type of screw head is on the sensor please

[@dongillis1500]

Will this work on a lectric XP bike?

[@AudioPhile]

So I bought my uncle's 2021 Polygon Path E5 off him and it's max is 32km/h but was limited to 25km/h when it was sold in Australia. With a 504Wh battery that's some bullshit. After one ride to work today I'm looking to remove it, I sit at 35ish pedalling anyway, so this would be ideal. It has the Shimano Steps motor, my uncle said there's a limiter wire installed? Didn't see this sensor you speak of... Might have to open the motor. Edit Def no sensor like the video. So removed the battery pack and removed the left side motor cover and only see 2 wires that def look factory installed. Need to do some research 😟

[@aarongriffiths9977]

Would it work on a Carrera vengeance ebike?

[@peterh7824]

I have a specialized como bike how can I do this on this bike

[@PRAYIMAKET]

My ebike can go 35kph but there's gotta be a way with out it damaging the frame to make it go faster with out drilling any holes any tips?

[@danielcaigou6403]

As other commenters have said, I should've just cable tied the sensor on.

[@eGazTheFirstAustralian]

Glue

[@klabeproductions3064]

Does this work on prophet ebikes

[@JaffaHeckle]

Wow. Drilled thorough the frame!!!

[@penamuuri6767]

its all good

[@stevenparry7925]

Will this work on Bosch 4th gen motor 2021 cube reaction 500?

[@gurselakay]

It did not work on Shimano E-Steps..The system shut down and displayed sensor error..I assume this will be the same for Bosh

[@timinator83]

Hi Daniel. I just purchased the LIV Val E+2 ebike, it looks like it has the similar motor sensor to yours, how did you get it off? It looks like the manufacturer has tried to make it difficult to detach it with a screw ive never seen before. Dying to get this over 15mph its so lame at that speed!!

[@ysette8]

DoubleT I’ve got the same issue with my Giant Explore E

[@timinator83]

Megan Lim You need a hex screwdriver, only way to do it, cheap on amazon.

[@pwhit59]

How do you hack the jetson bolt pro that doesn't use app?

[@gwilo74]

hi, enjoyed watching your video👍, no.1, id like to know, how does this hack effect your battery gauge?? im thinking, if your going faster, you will be using alot more power, which i assume, drains battery faster.

[@danielcaigou6403]

Yeah it'll use a little more battery... but a lot of the energy is required to get you up to top speed, not as much required to maintain top speed. But yes overall you'll use more battery. But that's a small price to pay for the annoying cut in cut out of a speed limiter

[@rw7269]

Will this work with bikes with the latest updates ?

[@mlee6050]

I'm confused as you say positive and negative when on magnets it is normally north and south from when I hear it

[@roy1299]

Hi David. What's your mid drive motor?

[@Rturbo_]

This won’t work for mine. The motor is on the front wheel. There are no magnets on any of the wheels. I have a Bridgestone Tb1e

[@idobbim]

Thanks for the video! Got the same bike and worked a treat. Do you mind sharing the URL to the magnet you used? I've got a huge one taped on at the moment, and another which was too small to pick up.

[@idobbim]

Also, once in your top gear, does your electric motor cut it and out until you have a steady ready of about 9km/h according to the speedo? I find if I peddle at about 8km/h according to the speedo while in top gear, the motor is on for a second, off for a second, on, off.

[@danielcaigou6403]

@@idobbim that's your limiter... Mine doesn't do that

[@Lizafig]

Do you always need to pedal for this to work or can you be on full motor mode and it’ll still work?

[@firestorm996]

That's the issue I see with it. Surely if you're coasting (no pedal rotation) the motor will think you're stopped, and get somewhat confused when you suddenly ask it for assistance again? Most motors now are designed with some ramp-in rather than sudden power so it seems to me this would result in an odd feel to the assistance?

[@mirceagligan4819]

That doesn't work on Bafang Max Drive 250w on a Fischer EM 1865 ebike. It works but when you stop pedalling you get the 21 Error.

[@the.communist]

Use pass code 0520

[@davidrossmiller8349]

Ohhhh I'm going to remove some of the magnets from my PAS bike to see if it will work as well, being the PAS magnetics are on a small wheel hub on mine. If this idea works I will do a update, but I have HUGE doughts.

[@qibble455]

what problems if any did you discover?

[@bshinjp]

Pas is Yamaha bikes in Japan no?

[@ianstoker1]

QUESTION: Wont the manufacturer know that I've messed around with the bike If I ever have a problem with the motor and I have to have it repaired?

[@clivenewton7609]

That’s the chance you take when you knowingly break the law😂👍

[@michelleslater8894]

Interesting concept. And see all those comments and other alternatives ... when are the makers of e-bikes just going to acknowledge that limiting at 25 is ridiculous when so many people can pedal a normal bike faster than that and fit people are riding them - especially the e-mountain bikes. When it hits 25 on the flat it feels like pedaling with a handbrake on - ridiculous! .

[@robarias8625]

It's imposed by them by law. In many countries it's not legal to motor assist a bicycle beyond the 25 km/t. Obviously this is a software limitation which can be worked around like this, or with a chip. I don't have a mountain bike but I imagine you would only turn on the assist when you are climbing up hill and need help in order to not get so exhausted - after all, it's going down-hill that's fun.

[@gesmondfarrugia5506]

Agree 100 %

[@DuBstep115]

Before my E-bike my average speed was 36km/h. Now it's 24km/h 😤

[@jdgoesham5381]

They have to for import purposes. Today 99/100 of then you can just go into the setting and change the max speed ezpz. Some also have a hard limiter between the batt and controller you can unplug to keep an eye out for. Though for 25 bucks you can just upgrade to a computer that can show all settings which I did for a friend. Actually, we got him a new controller (22a to 28a) and a computer bundled for 50 bucks and his ebike goes 38mph from 20ish mph.

[@bruceenting]

Mostly a government mandated control in oz

[@qrsimon]

And why not add a magnet on your bikewheel itself.. if the rotation speed is what your after.

[@Ramon314]

I thought I came up with a clever original hack to make my bike faster, now I come across this video... Again I'm not original 😂

[@pgr007]

Does this also work with shimano?

[@dougwiles7639]

Will this work on BeeCool models?

[@enemydown.gaming]

Is this work on all types of electric bikes?

[@humptydumpty5763]

Has the frame broken yet where you drilled the screw into it ?

[@danielcaigou6403]

Nope

[@samibensialie7829]

Will the battery run out way faster

[@joelross1410]

why not add more sensors on the back wheel ? ?

[@sergemichel1686]

Is putting the Magnet and the Sensor closer to the Center of the wheel not affecting the speed, as it works on the Pedal?l

[@geemy9675]

nope because it's only measuring the rpm. the diameter of the wheels is built-in the controller. if the controller allowed to change the wheel size you wouldn't need any hardware hack, you would just change it to the smallest size as explained in the video

[@judgedeath4568]

Just tried this and I keep getting error 21, what am I doing wrong, thx

[@g888GEVAN]

just tried that but in no time it goes into error (102 code on bosh readout): though it reads a lower speed alright... what could I be doing wrong ?

[@hans6300]

It doesent work on some bosh systems

[@tinker-time]

Bosch has put in software to stop this be done,

[@AriHeiskanen]

@@tinker-time 💩😢

[@Charles-Windsor88]

@@tinker-time Bosch are Nazi's don't forget.

[@YouTubeSupportTeams]

@@Charles-Windsor88 and gay bois

[@lickalotlickalot2210]

Sometimes the motor is locked down on the speed so no matter what you did on the menu like making the tire smaller it does not change the real speed.

[@samibensialie7829]

Does it work on bosch motor

[@truthvikingborz1599]

Do it work on syncrone drive sport

[@benjijohns3615]

Does it work for Bosch gen3

[@estracyp1]

has anyone tried this on ananda m100 mid motor without any dangerous electrical issues that might ruin the motor

[@stankosolar2838]

Hi, l have it sorted but another thing came up after let's sai 2 minutes padaling it's just gets harder like elctric engine stops helping for a minute than comes back up, why is that?

[@jelmerjansen328]

Thats the software in the bike, Of u don't want the error you need to reset your motor to the dealer

[@jelmerjansen328]

Srry about my englisch

[@bozmeg6918]

What's done is done. Zip tie the next if it applies. We all learn from each other. Drilling can also weaken that area.

[@honorb4glory606]

A smaller wheel will rotate faster, not slower.

[@raymurda4551]

He's australian everything is backwards

[@TheSanDiegoSteve]

Yea, but if the controller THINKS your wheel is a 20” or even an 18” (even better), it will confuse the controller-“Hey, it sure is taking a long time for that magnet to come around. I guess I can give the motor more juice. “😊 Just think about 4x4s with bigger tires - the speedo is gonna read slower than you’re actually going.

[@markbeauchamp3192]

A smaller tire wheel will not rotate faster nor slower than a bigger wheel at a given driven speed( your crank , pedal rotational speed remains the same) It will just not travel further than a bigger wheel . A small wheel covers less distance per revolution so its slower than a bigger wheel covering more distance per its 1 rotation.

[@francisengevik9517]

Thanks! But i want to know gow fast im going, or i would love to do that! I ride my son in a stroller to kindergarten, so i want to know how fast im going... But love the trick

[@maxgorniak4818]

Any chance you’d know if this would work on a Bosch smart motor?

[@danielcaigou]

No idea sry

[@dragoshee]

what s the exact size ur magnet that u bought have?

[@danielcaigou6403]

Check the comments I posted a link

[@Deggoo]

Omg... It worked very well can't still I can't believe. Thanks a lot

[@jerryx2000]

till what speed does yours go?

[@Deggoo]

@@jerryx2000 up to 80km/h

[@jerryx2000]

@@Deggoo that's too slow I was expecting 400kmh

[@Deggoo]

@@jerryx2000 Yeah Japanese maglev and sht

[@MrBlowy111]

I've tried this on my voodoo bizango e I keep getting a error

[@givemeakidney]

That's because the firmware detected that your cadence matches exactly to the wheel rpm. This "hack" no longer works. You need to go to the dealer to have the motor reset (if they'll do it as the motor is now no longer covered by your warranty probably). There is a rumour that pedaling the bike in limp mode for 90 minutes will reset the error (flip it over and turn the creaks by hand, it's easier). I don't know if that's true because now I run a shimano motor. Good luck

[@jelmerjansen328]

I have the same

[@jelmerjansen328]

@@givemeakidney does it make problems for the electric parts of the bike of you go 45/ 50 km/h??

[@givemeakidney]

@@jelmerjansen328 no, it makes problems for the rider if they're caught, or if they need to use the warranty.

[@jelmerjansen328]

@@givemeakidney okay thnx!

[@msmjason2018]

If you added another magnet on the wheel as in having 2 magnets

[@Mata_fajar]

Hai.. i ready to install but.. error speed sensor...

[@sybedhoey5478]

Does IT work on evry e bike?

[@Hairfire]

Do you still have the bike?

[@rondeneef]

not working on shenguyi mid motor. i used ordanaire magnet. magnet is not important i think......

[@alansmemoriesofnothingands8029]

Does it speed up walk assist mode too?

[@danielcaigou6403]

I don't have/use that feature but I doubt it. That's usually a fixed speed and doesn't rely on peddling to tell it to go. Just my gut feeling though

[@FattyOn2Wheels]

no

[@MOTIVATIONKING13]

What if you dont place the magnet

[@melianteasypunto8262]

My problem is the speedometer doesn't work and thinks I'm doing 25Km with a single pedal. When I'm almost stopped the speedometer shows bike is riding at 15 Km/h. It is a real pain in the back when I'm cycling uphill no power at all. A normal classic bike probably runs faster than mine. I appreciate you sharing this tip. Although it wont work for me. My bike has not a visible magnet attach to the wheels nor a visible sensor. I think all is hidden somewhere inside of the tubes or wherever the manufacturer hid it, probably to avoid we do this as according UK and EU laws a bike can't go faster than 25Km/h hence the use of speed limiter. I do not have a clue on how to rewire the speedometer. But thanks anyway very much appreciated.

[@krokodilen31]

Maybe your bike has a hub engine ?

[@arnabmitra4348]

I have the same issue here in India . Can't go beyond 25km/hr . And I have a hub motor . Don't know what to do .

[@martonfehervary9150]

..and what if you just roll? The magnet on the pedal will be inactive, and the error code may will appear !!?

[@danielcaigou6403]

If you roll you're not pedaling... so the motor won't activate. Just like with a regular mid drive.

[@imaginevideostockfootage4485]

So what's your top speed after the hack? And what are your thoughts/experiences a year+ later?

[@danielcaigou6403]

Thoughts after a year? It worked great! cruising speed is about 33kph easy riding, can get it to ~40kph peddling hard on flat Regret not cable tying the sensor rather than drilling the frame... the comments section certainly corrected me on that one... That being said I've had no problems with the mod, and the frame is still intact despite the small hole haha. Once I lost the magnet which was funny. Parked up next to a metal bike rack and the magnet jumped onto the bike rack, but I noticed when I left and the ebike wouldn't engage. Went back and found the magnet. That was about all that's gone wrong since I made this video.

[@stevezodiac491]

What a waste of time, I can do a faster speed of over 30 mph, on the flat, peddling hard, on my aero road bike, with no motor.

[@1fadf23f]

​@@stevezodiac491 What a dumb comment

[@e-mike9776]

@@stevezodiac491 what are you commenting here for then??? we all can do that 30mph on a road bike , no motor, your not exceptional..

[@The_Deaf_Aussie]

what happens if you just remove the magnet altogether?

[@danielcaigou]

An error code

[@The_Deaf_Aussie]

@@danielcaigou but everything else works right?

[@ulgn1964]

I rader buy a kit were you can turn on and off max speed and the speed is correct, speed box is a great way to set up your bike without any modifications, just plug it in and you simply turn it on and off with the controller on your bike, off max 25kmh and on 99kmh.

[@cyberacers]

Where can I find this kit?

[@ulgn1964]

@@cyberacers www.speedbox-tuning.com/

[@drilkerbike]

This didn't work on my Shimano e steps 8000

[@jamesluckhurst4798]

Daniel Caigou how did you find this warehouse ebike? Was looking at buying one... is it any good?

[@danielcaigou6403]

Hey, yes it is good for the cost. Its not as good as the preicy ones for sure, but for what I paid it has well and truly done me proud. Only whinge is the brakes probably need an upgrade for the power

[@user619tlsdca5]

How has the bike been since the hack? Any component went bad?

[@danielcaigou6403]

Been fine

[@Battleneter]

Cheers, Your in Christchurch :P

[@danielcaigou6403]

😆 🤣 caught

[@samdonnellydance4816]

What bike is this

[@bigmaci]

this made my bike go max 55kmh holy shit

[@leventkanlicioglu6786]

Great video.Can you share aliexppres link for magnet?Or can you tell me the dimensıon of magnet.Thanks

[@rodhorne3281]

If you want your speed and distance travelled, your smartphone will do that for you.

[@nav2009]

Why not change the program with the display.

[@danielcaigou6403]

Can't on this model

[@ActivityPhoto]

Very clever!

[@vsalvato53]

As this will upset your speed and ODO reading, wouldnt it be easier to simply move fw or bw the magnet on the wheel to make it not readable by the sensor? Doing this it would always look like you are standing still whilst you are going as fast as much as your gear and your pedal frequency allows...? Where am I wrong?

[@danielcaigou6403]

Wouldn't work. No input from the pedal sensor = no motor assist.

[@egidijusjankauskas2546]

unfortunately this method doesn't work on shimano step 5000. After few km of riding goes to error E014. Software recognise on replacement of magnet.

[@nowrozimohammad]

Have did you fix the E014 error?

[@seba5190]

Simple question , why just not simply not move the receptor, and just add a magnet on the wheel at the opposite? like having 2 magnet so you 2x the rate? not an idea ?

[@Hallands.]

That would halve your max speed to 12.5 km/h

[@seba5190]

@@Hallands. ok 👌

[@Hallands.]

@@seba5190 What we need is an „blinking“ magnet which only activates the sensor every two turns of the wheel 😉 but that’s easier said than done…