Did I Destroy the 800NK? 600 Mile Hard Break-In Results!

[@spitescorner]

A few people are concerned about the oil filter. I should've shown it on screen, but I didn't. Mostly because there wasn't anything to see. There was more particulate in the screens than the filter. That's my had. I made a short taking a look at it: kzbin.infoRKLPWGgsSqQ Next time I do something like this I'll show you a close up.

[@majormassenspektrometer]

Put that glitter in your engine. Will help breaking it in. Unsubbed for clickbait BS.

[@spitescorner]

Sorry to see you go.

[@luddite6239]

​@@spitescornerNever mind, I've just subscribed instead. Great content 👍

[@shmod97]

Are you shitting me? The filter is full of glittery shavings (yeah no the glitter that you put on later as some sort of attempt to an excuse), and you dump it in the pan without showing it or mentioning it after the premise of the video?

[@fatherfreedom1946]

I have also subscribed and replaced his butthurt little butt

[@Win7ermu7e]

Spite blowing through the checklist exactly like I imagine my dealer does.

[@jakesmith2469]

Exactly

[@pmdinaz]

pretty sure Spite was more thorough

[@Win7ermu7e]

@@pmdinaz good catch. Fixed.

[@Sinister_fartbox]

He’s bought by the Chinese

[@TheCunneen]

Not checking for loose bolts is poor form. The main swing arm bolt is notorious for coming loose

[@pureforce56]

I just bought thr 800NK yesterday. I pick it up on Tuesday. This is my very first bike. This was an early birthday present to myself. Turn 50 in October.

[@anxiousappliance]

Put it in rain mode for a couple of weeks and get a feel for it. 100hp is something to be respected.

[@harzil]

They said the same for my Aprilia Pegaso 650ie and in 18 years, I only changed, oil, filters, spark plugs, a rear shock and once the injection intakes. 2004 model 2nd hand. And now guess which bike i'll get next week... Tested the 800NK and it rocks. In a few days it's mine!!!!! By the way, the Advance.

[@psguardian]

While it is only a single data point, it is a point towards the good. Worth taking time to share.

[@jonpeters5194]

Maintenance of maturity please do the needful fyi hint oil containers have the opening off set so you can pour with the opening up high. Lets the air into the container for a consistent pour.

[@jerrybutler7206]

So I have no experience with the NK800 however I do have experience with the NK300. I work for an MSF School. We have 12 NK300's as training bikes. Of those 12 bikes in the coarse of a year of ownership, we have experienced 1 complete wire harness malfunction, 1 display failure, 1 thermostat failure, a couple leaks/gasket failure's, and almost every battery has failed. Despite the above, I still think they are pretty good bikes and wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to anyone. Again, a small sample size but this is my experience with a dozen bikes in about 12 months of ownership in Arizona with the highest mileage bike being around the 500 mile mark and the average being around 300 miles.

[@VinCode17]

👍

[@chrispekel5709]

Yeah, mine has a rubbish battery as well. No other issues that weren't caused by me however

[@iamcxd9782]

The only thing id say about that experience is the MSF bikes get absolutely dumpstered with abuse from new riders

[@jerrybutler7206]

@@iamcxd9782 Based off my time there and the over 300 bikes we regularly use, clutches, levers, and front tires would be about the only items that seem to exhibit accelerated wear and use.

[@RageReq0]

The msf course I went to had groms, dirt bikes, and rebels and they warned us to shut them off any time we were told to stop because otherwise the batteries would die quickly. They were all pretty beat up though including a few that wouldn't shift properly.

[@sunshowerpainting1]

The clx 700 sport I owned was a stellar performer. Excellent fit and finish. Never had a hiccup. Rode it for nearly two years. I'd definitely buy another CF MOTO.

[@Aenslaei]

The oil spill was probably from using too big of a funnel. It happened to me with my 790 Duke and once i bought a smaller funnel so air could escape out of the fill hole, i could fill it no problem. You will always have to fill twice however. I fill it till the sight glass is all the way to the top, turn on the engine for a few seconds, then fill to middle of the glass. I change the oil every 5k and it's at 40k now. The bike has a neat way to remind you to change the oil though. The quickshifter starts to feels 'gritty' telling you its time to change.

[@kd2833]

how are ur cams ? since that common problem, the made of butter and what year is ur bike ?

[@Magic_Toaster]

I love that you kept in the weird things that happen while doing maintenance, it's the little things that people don't think about that end up scaring people from trying to it it themselves. Now to see how many comments are just going to be "it sucks cause china"

[@ZundappCZ]

It sucks cuz Chyna!

[@Magic_Toaster]

@@ZundappCZ touche

[@loftyintentions1985]

Everything I have had, motorcycle related, from China has sucked.

[@Magic_Toaster]

@@loftyintentions1985 but did you have a CFMoto? China can make anything to the specs you desire, they make all the apple products to a high quality standard, it's all on the business owners. As long as it's not Government owned, it'll be fine

[@loftyintentions1985]

@@Magic_Toaster no and I'm pretty sure they weren't government owned.

[@dlcarburetor]

It's good to have this example since we don't have much data to go on at all. That said still too soon to tell. Thanks @Spite's Corner

[@Beanerds]

I have done 65,000km on my 2014 CFMoto 650nk , hard miles as well and like this one it has not missed a service or had any major issues , these are well made bikes ! Just tires , chain and front sprocket .

[@SummitCoyote]

i know the maintenance on the 300nk was pretty easy as well. i like that they have a oil change kit with all the parts already together. that's super nice.

[@easye1311]

Where did u get the kit?

[@SummitCoyote]

@@easye1311the cfmotoparts online store.

[@skotty1962]

Been considering a CFMoto for my next bike but been wondering about the reliability. So thanks man.

[@ORSurfbum]

Bout on par with ktn now lol with all their bikes having flameout and ecu issues. Good times

[@fullmetalcorgi1350]

If it's not leaking it isn't a REEEEEEEEEEEEEEAL bike.

[@jackaitken5306]

So true

[@marcusgeorge1825]

Both comments obviously come from HD riders. 😂

[@ceejay1364]

HD gang

[@r.j.bedore9884]

Especially true for track day specials and old European bikes with "character."

[@jakesmith2469]

If it stops leaking you need to fill it back up.

[@ADingoTookMyDasco]

That's an "interesting" setup with the oil drain plugs. Service manual to the rescue! I got to throw a leg over a CFMOTO for the first time last weekend during a ride day.I got to ride the 300SR & 800MT Explore, and that 800 has a very throaty intake. They're not up to the standard set by the Japanese, but they're pretty darn close. Close enough that I seriously considered buying one, and I'm not concerned about reliability. They've been selling the 650's & smaller bikes here for over a decade & there's plenty of them that are still on the road.

[@Sinister_fartbox]

He’s bought by the Chinese

[@Mancastle]

Identical to my KTM 1090 from 2016(The oil filters etc) kinda annoying tbh as i've found them getting stuck.

[@pauln6803]

The dual drain plug/mesh strainer is inherited from the dry sump KTM engine designs. You think that design is quirky, look up what's involved with the single cylinder KTM LC4 oil change!

[@pauln6803]

​@@Mancastle A good pair of circlip pliers is a necessity for KTM oil filter removal. The real annoyance is the fragile mesh screens that fall apart after a couple of oil changes, meaning you're better stumping up for an official KTM service kit instead of just getting a cheap (but perfectly good) Hi-Flo or Champion pattern jobbie.

[@JustinHuffman]

​@pauln6803 cfmoto does the full kit as well for a bit cheaper

[@fireice1997]

I rip my 450ss and it takes it like a champ. CFmoto isn’t these Amazon Chinese bikes. They are coming for the US market and producing very nice bikes. They aren’t stupid, they know Americans are going to question the reliability so it wouldn’t surprise me if they had very strict standards at the factory. I’m not saying there’s not going to be things that slip through the cracks but I’ve had Japanese, German and British bikes have questionable things on them and when I took my CFmoto 450 apart to add a quick shifter everything was marked, neat, and clean looking. I was very impressed and I will be buying more of there bikes and I’m currently excited for there ibex 450🤙🏼

[@Sinister_fartbox]

Go away Chinese bot

[@spitescorner]

Does 620 miles of pain count as a decent test of this bikes reliability? I'm confident if anything was going to break it would've already.

[@ctrlaltowned5223]

Chaseontwowheels rode his Ibex 800 from Georgia to South Dakota for Get On ADV and rode it around there with no issues. I’m pretty sure they are decently reliable.

[@GuzziHeroV50]

I was told by an engineer for a British Superbike team (his name escapes me): break in hard, race hard. They took engines straight from the crate and put them on dynos. Essentially he as saying that it'll open up as it is ready and there is no detriment.

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

Even the worse bikes make can make it 1000km/600mi, even double that. I would say about 5,000mi/8,000km would give a better idea.

[@jl9161]

Yeah a one day iron but without technical difficulties is definitely a sign this thing is bomb proof😂 your social credit score is definitely going up !

[@GuzziHeroV50]

@@jl9161 The things that people said about Japanese cars and bikes in the 70s are the things that they say about Chinese bikes now. I will always love my Italian and British bikes first. But I have a Chinese 'Zontes' 125cc, it never gets any maintenance and rarely gets warmed up properly, and it still goes strong 10 years and 9000+ miles later.

[@ziggyz1750]

just ignore the sparkling oil filter it will be fine.

[@spitescorner]

Here you go: kzbin.infoRKLPWGgsSqQ?feature=share

[@jacksons87]

break in oil change. always looks like that

[@2lbsTrigrPull]

@@jacksons87 no, lool.

[@Uriel-Septim.]

@@spitescorner BS.

[@Pete-ph8eb]

Yeah those sparkles are oil bubbles on the surface of the filter,no meticular biuld up,I own an ibex 800 ,0 metal in the oil or filter at any oil change,I can't say that for my boneville, glitter in the oil,triumph states this is normal.

[@diyeveryday67]

Nothing to worry about here. You should have seen the garbage on the filter at the first oil change on our 2020 4Runner. Way more than expected. Good job CF Moto.

[@mrcool-ko4od]

I like these type of videos, just feels like something that was pretty easy on you to do

[@MotoTrauma]

My 800NK Advanced coming on Monday, in 1 day from this comment, it will be my third CFMOTO, over 25,000 Km on my first 2 from CFMOTO, I am confident it will be a good bike 👍👍💪✌

[@caskstrength7629]

Nice Bike.👌Enjoy it.🇳🇱

[@MotoTrauma]

@caskstrength7629 hehe thank you! I already own it for 3 months ✌️👍

[@lewiscast3753]

I Own a CF Moto NK 400, got it brand new and drove it from Manila to my place in the province 500 Kms away, in the relentless sun and heat, then I drove it back to my place in Manila. and two years since I bought it only needs oil changes. It has been used and abused, didn't complain at all.

[@Schaden81]

What a sharp looking bike. If i ever move up from my Duke I may consider that one.

[@rogerparliman1892]

Did you know that it is a duke in disguise. Really research it.

[@jamilangon5798]

cf moto have a stigma of chinese brand but what i can tell is it doing fine. it may not performed like japanese bikes but the price is the advantage of this brand. we have a cfmoto nk400 bought wayback q1 of 2018 and aside from clutch replacements and sparkplug and normal things that wear through time, no issues so far aside from the delayed feel on the throttle that was present on the 1st day of using the bike. bike clocks at 170k km and still working fine

[@ultimomos5918]

Just snagged my first bike, a 300nk recently and absolutely loving it. Glad to know the 800 is just as great

[@stevesanelli90]

Hey Spite, the only recommendations I would do with any of the bikes I buy would be to grease the wheel bearing seals, spacers & axle (F&R), grease the swingarm bearings/seals, grease the headstem bearings & apply anti-seize to the chain adjuster bolt threads going into the aluminium swingarm. The main reason: All manufacturers apply FA grease to save on costs & I get to learn about dissembling and reassembling the components. A fellow American YTer has an 800MT & has replaced the swingarm bearings, seals & sleeves because of the lack of grease from the factory & because of a couple of low water crossings & gravel roads. I’d expect the 800NK to be similar.

[@4G63TDSM]

Well, my 800NK Advance lost her rear hugger and got intimate with the rear tyre after 30kms, and the cone bearing failed at 1100km after 4 days of shakedown runs. Couple screws backed out. It's getting sent back to the factory tmrw....2nd time in a week. Seriously, this is like a bad joke. I wouldn't be surprised if i got lemonade if I drained the oil for it's first service.

[@thebrowns5337]

Spite - you've treated this like my son treats his CB125R. High revs, check. Salt water (roads in the UK sprayed with salt, grit and urea over winter), check. Washing after a ride, Nope. Chain oiling, not often (praise the lord for oring chains). Muddy floods, check. 600 mile service - that can wait until 1000 miles. The bike has now had it's second service and has over 5k miles on it and runs like an absolute dream! He has learnt along the way too and is now fully knowledgable in how to care for this one and his next bikes.

[@Stanley88845]

As a 23 790 Duke owner that has put over 3000 miles on it since July, it has been utterly mechanically faultless. Not even a dash code or anything. However, I have had paint on the oil pan start flaking off from corrosion despite hardly using it over winter.

[@javierc2726]

In the 790 duke, you reset the service mileage by pressing and holding up and down at the same time while having the 'settings' menu highlighted. Check if that translated to the cfmoto as well

[@chistopherstufflebean8793]

I have about 1200 miles on the 300 NK now. It's a great bike the oil change was easy. I'm eyeing that 700 cxl sport I think it's called I'm quiet please with CF Moto and I think they have a new customer

[@abeemad584]

Loving the energy in this video

[@JimmySnakes]

Oh that's interesting, I have the 800nk I didn't realize there was a consensus of "issues"... I guess I lucked out it's a gem so far

[@Rex_the_Badger]

I would still be on the fence, I would want to see how these bikes are doing in 5-10 years with 20-30k on the clock

[@Tasselhoff88]

Same. Any bike should last 600 miles or even 6000 miles without worry. It's the 60K that really shows how reliable a bike is.

[@jvillain9946]

I wanna see a large data set across many bikes, many riders and many years. Especially after they start ramping up production and increasing their lineup. Expansion is the number one killer of quality. That being said, 60k is a bit high dont ya think?

[@Aenslaei]

I have a '19 790 Duke, 40k miles on it. Its reliable enough. I have only had 1 part failure (thermostat went bad) and a known issue cam chain tensioner replaced in warranty in it's first month.

[@Tasselhoff88]

@@jvillain9946Oh, yeah, 60K is excessive, but for me it's just the magic number that I'm lookin for. If I can't find any used bikes past 60K in somewhat rideable condition, to me it speaks of a shorter lifespan for that model. But realistically those kinds of huge mileages depend more on regular maintenance to actually achieve. And granted, kind of a pointless meter considering brand new bikes. But the point is reliability is earned only after several years and not the first service interval.

[@HipsterOctagon]

I have a duke 790 (same engine) and can say that in its 7000+km so far that it's never let me down or been anything but great. I imagine these 800nk's will be similar.

[@TheUberdude14]

you have more luck then i do, had 2 thermostats and an output shaft seal fail on me within 6000 km's on a new bike

[@otomorim]

I guess there is a difference as to the model they are releasing worldwide, here in the Philippines that same bike already has a steering damper, as well as a quick shifter up and down. Tft display looks like an ipad mini while the ones you have is just a 5" tft, if i'm correct? also, the handle bars also looks different, as the ones here has a scooter type of handle bars to accomodate that huge tft display. Same price point, it's about $8,500 here as well.

[@jamessmith5266]

Another great video spite! I don’t even on a CF moto and don’t currently plan on owning one but enjoyed watching the service procedures

[@jemirandav]

Excellent review. Congratulations.

[@Wintersdark]

Bearing checks - there is a process for this that isn't just "it rides fine" AND isn't pulling wheels etc. get the wheel off the ground, check that it rolls without any grinding. Grab the wheel, and try to rock it in directions it shouldnt move in, make sure there's zero play. Steering bearing: when the front is up, ensure the bars can move smoothly stop to stop with no hitching. Grab the bottom of the forks, try to push and pull them, make sure there's no movement. Same with other bearings - elevate, try to move in directions it shouldnt move in. A worn bearing will allow a little play that will be noticeable over a long arm (like forks, swingarm length, wheel size, etc.) Do check these things and you'll find problems before they're noticable riding because problems will present very gradually and it's easy to not notice till it's REAL bad.

[@banabread1113]

Watching you do this service makes me feel so much better about my first self service xD

[@mickstafford456]

Oil looked clean. Screens looked good, no signs of metal shavings or foreign bodies. Can't see any issues. As far as I'm concerned, good first service.

[@TJ-qo2xu]

The fact that you admitted to riding that thing way harder than any break-in should be, and the oil looked that good... that screams good build quality to me. To be fair, I know next to nothing about motorcycles. This might've made me more excited and interested in the company.

[@onlyfoolriding8223]

Wish you showed the actual filter There were a good amount of metal shavings in that.

[@MrEiniweini]

Yeah, I kind of noticed that too. Still, that is why you pull the filter with the first oil change. I would run another thousand and change out again just to make sure it was clear.

[@spitescorner]

Here you go: kzbin.infoRKLPWGgsSqQ

[@MrEiniweini]

@@spitescorner Unfair dude. Two of us saw metallic particles on the filter and I was keen to redo the oil change after another 1,000 miles to make sure it was clear. You didn't say you had sprinkled it with metallic glitter.

[@bucurestisquid3092]

uhhmmm are we going to ignore the sparkly oil filter at 4:29? i'm sure that's just glitter i guess ...

[@CH84974]

I just pointed that out as well

[@spitescorner]

Here you go: kzbin.infoRKLPWGgsSqQ?si=BZo5d6WkBlEa2pXm

[@DigitalExpert-eg2je]

That's normal during break in period, learn what break in period supposed to be and you'll know why theres "glitter" on the oil filter during the first 600miles

[@Loyalwhiteknight]

So many CF Moto haters. lol They make a good product people, face it. They have their good and bad like everyone does but they are great bang for your buck. I had a CF Moto ZForce 800EX, took it to Moab, UT, Vernal, UT and not one issue after two seasons and 1,200 miles.

[@alanaspurling6469]

You can definitely tell the KTM/Husqvarna DNA is in it with the filter/screen set up. Just like my 701 Vitpillen…. In the aviation world it’s called Pencil whip that checklist…

[@paultaylorduke]

It's literally a KTM 790, CFMOTO licenced it from KTM.

[@thekikendallsautoandrandom1271]

CfMoto is actually KTMs main supplier of engines now.

[@Sinister_fartbox]

Ye same Chinese quality in the ktm. Since they are moving manufacturing to china haha rip

[@DoRC]

That actually looks pretty good for a first oil change. Even nice engines can end up with a bunch of crap in the oil from manufacturing. The clean screens either means you got lucky or whoever's building these engines is pretty meticulous

[@karlfonner7589]

Everybody is anticipating the CF Moto, 450ADV. I hope that they are making lots of them.

[@markmagee8755]

We need more videos on CFMoto bikes as they are few & far between. I bought a new 2023 CFMOTO NK650 a few months, after selling my Yamaha MT07, & I love it. Plenty of power, great fuel consumption, comfy riding position & came with 4 year warranty, for UK buyers. I'm already considering trading it in for the NK800 motor bike as that's what I originally wanted, but at that time the NK800 wasn't yet available in the UK! 👍

[@luisfernandohernandez5310]

Hey, Spite! How did you manage to turn off the speeding warning? I have tried disabling it but it keeps blaring after 45-50 mph. Thanks!

[@spitescorner]

I think it was somewhere in the menus or I sped so much it gave up lol. I don't remember.

[@KasperiVonSchrowe]

True indicator of build quality is how many defect units we have compared to mint ones. Believe me when I say that 5 out of 100 is alarming for manufacturer and 10 out of 100 is catastrophic. So the possibility of having a good bike in case of CF Moto maybe 90 per cent. It is quite certain that you get a good bike. But social media will ensure that all the bad ones come public and that makes people fear that every bike is going to break. Your 1st service doesn't prove anything about the quality other than the fact that there is no constant quality issue with CF Moto but merely fluctuation in build quality. -BR, production engineer

[@certoner]

i bought the Cf Moto Clx700 Heritage when they first arrived in America. I only have 6000 miles on it to date. The only issues i have had with it are the fuel level sensor and the sensor that tells you what gear you are in. other than that i have had no serious issues. still rides great. I saw a NK800 at a local dealer been thinking about selling the Heritage. 😈

[@luddite6239]

Probably too late now, but it would have been interesting to send a sample of the old oil off for analysis. I did that recently with my Ducati Monster. It didn't show anything but it was an interesting exercise nonetheless.

[@robertbermudez4458]

Just curious as to how much that costs.

[@luddite6239]

@@robertbermudez4458 it's £40. Just search for "Millers Oils analysis" and you'll find out how to do it (assuming you're in the UK).

[@DavidSmith-jj5pr]

oh no, no you do not want to do that with a chinese bike it would be a horror show. some people have, you can check out bobistheoilguy

[@aftermarks]

​@@robertbermudez4458 Look up Blackstone Labs (in the U.S.). $35 for an oil sample analysis for a motorcycle.

[@cswengel42]

How anyone can be not trusting of the quality and reliability of these cfmotos when its literally a ktm and they make 80% of all ktms engines parts everything is beyond me. Knowing that if you still dont like them youre just a boomer

[@chrispekel5709]

That's kind of funny, as KTM don't have really have a name for reliability

[@cswengel42]

@chrispekel5709 true. But the same can be said about any european manufacturer. Yet ppl still love them regardless. My point is they think they are getting a cheap product just because its branded cfmoto which is based out of china. When a vast majority of peoples favorite brands have their parts and bikes made out in china.

[@cswengel42]

@@chrispekel5709 if you want reliability just buy a japanese bike period

[@CubanRider]

Interesting that they have their own oil formulation, but use a synthetic blend instead of full synthetic. Looks good, and property broken in 💪

[@PeterAllan00]

I have nearly 4000 miles on my CFMoto 300sr with absolutely no issues, it is a fabulous little bike.

[@Sinister_fartbox]

Go away Chinese bot

[@donnyjackson1908]

That’s the same engine as the duke 790. It’s odd they sent 10w40 when the duke and all other KTMs spec 10w50. What does the manual say in regards to viscosity?

[@getty6974]

I think it is a dry sump engine, based pn having 2 oil drain plugs. Usually with dey sumps you add around 70% of oil quantity, run the engine and add rest of it.

[@jvillain9946]

There is a lot more to question reliability than just the oil and basics. My biggest worry would be the welds, quality of steel and metal composites. I'd even question the quality of the screws and bolts. Manufacturing cost alone isn't the only factor that determines low sale price.

[@Aenslaei]

From the video, all the hardware was straight from a KTM 790 parts bin. All their bolts that have that same dull metal look to them, but they've held up well for my '19 790 Duke. The filter cover also has the same weird shiny metal look. I've got 40k miles on mine and do my own service. I've had a bad cam chain tensioner (known issue on 1st gen, rattle rattle rattle) and the thermostat went bad last year, but no complaints for a KTM. I'm hoping this bike will keep replacing part costs down cause I don't see myself getting rid of the bike. Its too good of a daily do everything bike.

[@Prestonesfpv]

Well it cant be any worse than the quality of my yamaha T7, the engine is good but it lacks in paint and general build quality 👍

[@jvillain9946]

@@Prestonesfpv Yamaha did sign a contract with cfmoto

[@rednelli]

What was on the oil filter - shows the care and quality of production. Very clean, very thorough.

[@MrPruske]

i went and looked at these cfmotos in person. they look great, and i was really surprised at the size difference between this and the cl700-x. i was also surprised at the radiators on them and how they handle the texas heat in traffic, you know?

[@phillipbatho3213]

Great, it made it 600 miles without failure. Very Impressive.

[@jvillain9946]

Thats not really an impressive feat. Maybe for a harley it is.

[@phillipbatho3213]

@@jvillain9946 sarcasm

[@charlesbatsold31]

@@jvillain9946🤦‍♂️

[@michal.laskowski.]

That's probably the best value for money bike on the sale right now

[@camgere]

One vote for the "break it in like you ride it" theory.

[@Sinister_fartbox]

Stole it 🤦🏼

[@ReshardsAutomotiveWorkshop]

I actually like the look of that bike.

[@Sinister_fartbox]

Go away Chinese bot

[@Tasselhoff88]

I'm hoping they depreciate quickly so that I can get my hands on one. I like the looks and full bore KTM are so popular and ridiculously expensive even with high mileage here in Finland.

[@Murad.bn2]

My 300NK had oil dirty black after initial 800km (500 mi) break-in, and same after next 3500km (2200 mi). I think it is due to fuel quality (our "Premium" isn't that premium).

[@roblewis7186]

As a CFMoto owner, people have mostly no idea what theyre talking about. My bike has been incredible and I love it.

[@jvillain9946]

Mine has nothing but problems since I bought it. I've put maybe a 1000 miles on it and I've had to take it in 4 times.

[@roblewis7186]

@@jvillain9946 that's really unfortunate. Mine has never been to a shop and all I've done is maintenance. It currently has 23,000 miles

[@roblewis7186]

@@jvillain9946 that's unfortunate. I've only done maintenance on mine. It's currently at 23,000 miles.

[@roblewis7186]

My comments keep getting deleted but my CFMoto has been extremely reliable. It's currently at 23,000 miles and has only ever had maintenance work.

[@Sinister_fartbox]

Go away Chinese bot

[@molonlabe9602]

That oil filter @ 4:30 didn't look real healthy, but you mentioned it in the pinned comment. Compression tests could have shown if the rough break-in affected the rings/cylinders getting sealed properly. Best (tested) chain lube is gear oil. It's good to see that an experienced motorcyclist/vlogger can be clumsy like myself...lol. Thanks for the video.

[@ATxPrime]

I really enjoyed this video, and while it is an Anecdote, that is still a better data point than random rumors in the comments section. After seeing this test, I feel confident enough to give CFMOTO a fair try.

[@rkbiker-h9l]

Thanks for posting this video

[@SoDakTwisties]

Looks like a typical KTM dual drain plug with mesh screen oil change. If it's like my KTM 1290, those drain plugs are as soft as butter. I bought a set to keep on hand, since they seem to want to round off more and more with each oil change.

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

I do what the manual says on modern bikes because I know the ECU can tattle and hurt my warranty.

[@LuwiMartin]

In my opinion as they are cheap they're gonna be great starter bikes and great to learn on the basics from maintenance and getting to ride a bike even amateur or pro as long as its maintained properly, a lot of people in asia have proven cfmoto reliable with proper maintenance. Speaking from experience the older cfmoto had shiz electronics apart from that it took me from point a to point b and kept me safe especially with their abs and the brakes were there to stop the bike.

[@mrd4335]

Watch the video, the paper filter was sparkling like a Christmas 🎄 decoration.?? He made sure it was quickly thrown in the used oil out the way. I've owned a Cfmoto and must admit l did love the ride it offered, l did enjoy it and only problem l had was the abs light was bit iffy. But for the money it was great fun little bike, l only sold to go bigger and it wasn't much more to get a cb650r with great Honda quality. I would say they are built to same quality as the Yamaha MT range. Unfortunately the depression is bad on them. Thanks for reviewing, aprishate it 👍

[@kevindarkstar]

It's easy to say that at 600 miles but with the 790 engine and the question over the cam shaft longevity, if you are going to have issues it will be around 15,000 to 20,000 miles from what I've seen, so it will remain to be seen 😉

[@Joke89ful]

can you do the yamaha mt 07 vs XSR 700 to see what it the difference?

[@ToyotaGT1Racer]

If I am not wrong, they actually uses the same engine as the KTM 790. Engineered by KTM build by CFmoto.

[@Kwansudru]

We need a video on if it's ok to go to the high pressure wash with a motorcycle. Will there be water ingress into the bearings or engine parts?

[@bigboi9611]

Just one thing i didnt really understand.Why did you blast the concrete with brake clean and oil residue with a oil catch right next to it insted of over it?

[@izaiahschlosser4512]

I'm totally into the top fuel break in... lol

[@CkWilD]

So who do I call for parts for the 650nk can’t find anything online

[@johnsaporta4633]

No worries about sample size. You rode your bike. No indications of catastrophic engine failure or heavy abuse. Where was the engine made? China? This isn't the 1970s, it is a water cooled modern cycle. No dank nooners, or screaming burnouts. Heck. It's fine.

[@JohnnieV]

Did you try all 3 ride modes? Mine really stutters in low gears low RPMS. I was worried if I’d make it home. I was 50 miles away. Once I got it on the highway it ran fine. I’m a lil concerned about the in/out gas flow. Doesn’t have a carb obviously so we will see at the 1000km first service this week.

[@jakesmith2469]

One is the loneliest number... And a very small sample size. I would be surprised at horrors found this early, but glad to see there wasn't any.

[@bishopsfishops7440]

Would cranking the bike with the throttle wide open be better to pump the oil around instead of actually starting it? On all of the bikes ive owned you can do that to crank but not start the bike. This is for non carburetor bikes. I do it after storing my bike over the winter. Helps get oil moving around and lube things up in the top end before i actually start it up.

[@marcbrasse747]

If possible cranking without running is indeed the best. No idea why you would have to open up the throttle though. At least not to help the oil get around although it might help to free some residue in the induction system if the fuel contains alcohol.

[@WideLoad405]

Hey, Spite, what boots do you wear for off road/dual sport/ADV riding? I got chonky legs. I've tried 2 different pairs of boots and neither have fit my legs. My feet fit fine but the upper closures don't close around my legs.

[@thehomeless_trucker]

I'm interested in this, but the new Suzuki GSX-8R really has my eye now....

[@spitescorner]

I'd love to get my hands on a GSX-8R. The S was a sweet little bike.

[@blipco5]

Totally practical bike. Go for it. The 8S has better suspension components and some wind protection.

[@thomasneedham1512]

@@blipco5 The R has the better suspension. My S is OK but not very adjustable. The engine is really nice and has great throttle response so is a lot of fun to ride. If you want the sport bike riding position, the R is going to be a great choice.

[@blipco5]

@@thomasneedham1512 Yes, I meant to say 'R' because I also mentioned the wind protection provided by the fairing. If I didn’t have too many bikes right now I’d most likely buy one of these. I have no problem leaving the high horsepower specs and bragging rights to the squids. I like to ride. Few riders can utilize even 100 hp on the road.

[@GillMaticH2O]

The Triumph Daytona 660 and CF Motos new 675SR might be great options is you are considering the GSX8R.

[@StevenOliver-pm6jh]

The sparkles on that oil filter were insane💀💀💀

[@harzil]

What about spark plugs? Do you have to dismantle half bike to get them?

[@ktkace]

NGL, if i have an ultrasonic cleaner, i'd just dump the 2 black pre filters in for a 5 min clean and put it back; most of the junk would have been filtered up by the paper filter.

[@ClearBrookExotics]

Is it me, or is that filter COVERED with metal shavings at 4:25 ? That could be part of the normal break in- I don’t know - I always let the dealer do my first service. But man, that is NOT glitter. Looks like metal sand.

[@sambinks4613]

I would think about buying one now. Thanks nice vid.

[@chrisk3754]

I have the KTM 790-2020. I do believe they are similar (identical?) I have had no problems and assume the same with CF moto.

[@SteveySwidz]

@spitescorner When you had to cycle the oil, did you have to close it up or just ran it with the filler cap open? How many seconds did you allow it to idle before adding more?

[@spitescorner]

I closed the cap and turned it on, then immediately back off. Just enough for the oil pump to cycle. It probably would have been fine to idle, since I was off by like a 1/10th of a quart.

[@anxiousappliance]

I always wonder why every time I replace a seal, heavy metal riffs fill the garage. It is what it is.

[@NMdesertracer]

My KTM 790 adv R does the same thing when I put the oil in lol! On the two drain plugs theres magnets in the middle that you have to clean if theres buildup. This might be my next bike...

[@Qassu78]

CFMoto has come a long way from where it became. I saw first CFMotos about a decade ago and were they scetchy as hell. The welds on the frames were just horrible and the brakes were... Well they were there :'D

[@sssanl6096]

I have the advanced version sux that i need to bring it in to a dealer for the service trip reset.

[@SolarEclips86]

O have the nk800 I love it been so good to me I'm for sure will get cf moto for my next bile