Split Point .22 bullet - A case study

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TAOFLEDERMAUS

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@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 3 жыл бұрын
Now in 1080p-60. Hello 2017!
@mikealfieri641
@mikealfieri641 3 жыл бұрын
I thought my eyes were getting better lol!
@CCW1911
@CCW1911 3 жыл бұрын
Looks great.
@user-ov7ci8tp8v
@user-ov7ci8tp8v 3 жыл бұрын
Ay happy New Years guys! Love the new content♥️
@user-ov7ci8tp8v
@user-ov7ci8tp8v 3 жыл бұрын
Oh shit also can y’all do some kinda wood projectile tests out of smooth bores?
@magicalpotatoeswonderland1728
@magicalpotatoeswonderland1728 3 жыл бұрын
Hello i love ur vids and i wish i could get those spljt hollow points for ground hogs
@mr.mitchelreeves736
@mr.mitchelreeves736 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Danny 🙏 I love watching videos of you still on here.
@weaselrider
@weaselrider 3 ай бұрын
Seeing Danny on an old video I haven't seen kinda broke my heart. I miss your smile, Danny. Great video by the way! I had heard a lot of these myths from my dad.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 3 ай бұрын
THese are still hard for me to watch
@Meop79
@Meop79 3 ай бұрын
​@@taofledermausremember the joy. Forget the bad. Celebrate the memories.
@owensthilaire8189
@owensthilaire8189 3 ай бұрын
@@taofledermaus Took me a decade before I could look at pictures of my dad and smile.
@Jetpack4Sisyphus
@Jetpack4Sisyphus 2 ай бұрын
Same. RIP Danny!
@raulduke7142
@raulduke7142 3 жыл бұрын
I like Danny's stance on .22. "When it goes down thats the one thats coming with me" "I can eat, I can defend." Right on, Danny.
@Lleesstreett
@Lleesstreett 3 жыл бұрын
is it the best for everything probably not but its a solid cartridge
@raulduke7142
@raulduke7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lleesstreett especially when you can carry 5,000 of them and hardly know you have em in your pack. Not happening with the "popular caliber."
@TheDmantheman100
@TheDmantheman100 3 жыл бұрын
@@raulduke7142 well lets say i weighed out 5, 30-06 rounds and it equaled 56 .22 long rifle.
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDmantheman100 Ounces equal Pounds, Pounds equal Pain.
@ProfessionalGlockSucker
@ProfessionalGlockSucker 3 жыл бұрын
5k .22 and you won't know you have them?
@NapoleChan
@NapoleChan 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a kid I had a ruger 10/22 (still got it) and me and my friends thought scoring on the .22 shell like that or with a X crossed score on the top it would shred its target. We all lived in the country in Ohio practically all the kids passed the idea around like some urban legend. It makes me a little happy to see that there was a bit of truth in our "legend", makes dulling all our pocket knives and cut fingers trying to put those scores on our .22 shells not seem so pointless...
@graywolfnative1679
@graywolfnative1679 Жыл бұрын
yes sir it works or has the last 50 year
@arahusni2038
@arahusni2038 Жыл бұрын
I remember copying this from that scene taxi driver lol
@allahuakbar4217
@allahuakbar4217 3 ай бұрын
​@@arahusni2038I copied it from The video game red dead redemption
@MrStanwillis
@MrStanwillis 2 ай бұрын
We did the same in Washington from the 50's and beyond.
@jimf1964
@jimf1964 2 ай бұрын
I believe that was a thing back when there wasn’t hollow point bullets.
@DalePalmer
@DalePalmer 3 ай бұрын
I like to see these older videos, and seeing Danny. He lives on.
@roth4916
@roth4916 3 жыл бұрын
was playing Red Dead Redemption 2 and was wondering how split points actually compared in real life! Great timing.
@bobedwards8896
@bobedwards8896 3 жыл бұрын
they didnt compare accuracy, i can see split points being much worse than hollow
@hunterthomas9999
@hunterthomas9999 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing
@Colonel_Overkill
@Colonel_Overkill 3 жыл бұрын
Few meters it wouldnt matter but I would hate to try to make consistent shots with RDR2 style carved split points. If you moulded them with a split you could predict the path but cqrved by camp knife no way in hell.
@trollyguacamole3308
@trollyguacamole3308 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could play rdr2 I lost my data disk and dont feel like buying another😂
@stanleycupchamps2009
@stanleycupchamps2009 3 жыл бұрын
at least they increase your dead eye
@The_Warrior526
@The_Warrior526 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Danny and welcome to Unsolved Taofledermauses...
@mrbreck1
@mrbreck1 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of unsolved mysteries a lot of bullet modifications came about because our grandparents and great grandparents did not have money or access to ammo variety and quantity. Cut shells were a way for shotguns to use bird shot for medium game. Split bullets were a way to add wounding properties to ball ammo for self defense and game animals. My grandfather told me many stories growing up in the great depression and hunting. No food, just a bit of water or other drink and he would be gone for days scrounging for himself and hunting game for his family to supplement what he could buy when jobs were available.
@TechNiVoltisgr3at
@TechNiVoltisgr3at 3 жыл бұрын
Taofledermice
@The_Warrior526
@The_Warrior526 3 жыл бұрын
@@TechNiVoltisgr3at I understand the proper plurality... I was making a joke..
@MeatHusk
@MeatHusk 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Danny!
@ModMax69
@ModMax69 3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME 😎
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 3 жыл бұрын
To Jeff and the crew: I really appreciate all of your work over the last several years. (Decade?) Thank you.
@woochang405
@woochang405 3 жыл бұрын
And I’m so glad that Danny is a ok Have a great New Year everyone 😀
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 3 жыл бұрын
@@woochang405 amen to that. I saw a cane in the background and got a little sad.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 3 жыл бұрын
thank you Joshua!
@helidude3502
@helidude3502 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍 The scientific, semi-scientific, and not scientific data is very helpful beyond its entertainment value. The friendly comradery brings it all together.
@dannyakatrikerred7381
@dannyakatrikerred7381 3 жыл бұрын
Joshua Gibson Cane? I don't use one. Might have been a camera tripod??? 🤷🏼‍♂️. 🇺🇸😎
@keithcaulkins8775
@keithcaulkins8775 3 жыл бұрын
As a young teen hunting squirrel, & rabbit, an old timer showed me how to split 22 lead round nose bullets. We only went about 1/8th inch deep in an X pattern with our pocket knives. This was devastating on smalll game. I was hunting to feed our family, and neighbors back in the early 60's. Hollow points wasn't available, and more expensive. Those were truly goods ole days. Semper Fi.
@TaxConsumer
@TaxConsumer 2 ай бұрын
These are very similar to old martini henry dum dum rounds, but I think those had a cross and not a single line, which were banned in the haegs convention.
@TheZombieburner
@TheZombieburner Ай бұрын
Dum dum bullets.....Those will do the trick.
@JoshJamesification
@JoshJamesification Ай бұрын
Your neighbors never wanted your squirrel meat
@Motor-City-Mike
@Motor-City-Mike 3 жыл бұрын
We played with so many variations on this - the best balance of accuracy and "shredding power" was drilling the nose with a pin vise, then filling the hole back in with bondo (yup). Accuracy stayed good because the shape was the same but the bullet opens like a hollow point on impact. I'm sure something better is around but it worked really well.
@TheZombieburner
@TheZombieburner Ай бұрын
Kind of like the Hornady bullets with the rubber tips, yeah?
@buffalosoutdoors
@buffalosoutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this one. My dad used to make cuts on solid nose bullets when he was out of hollow points to make his own segmented bullets.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'd love to see your take on it if you run out of other things to do!
@kentuckywindage222
@kentuckywindage222 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen this done by my dad. Also knew some nasty fellows who opened up the end of some bigger caliber bullet's and put a certain liquid metal inside and capped it with candle wax. Of course I've heard of putting a mixture that's pressure sensitive in with I believe a tiny piece of cork first. Sealed the same way. Here is the thing. If by some chance this is experimented with and I'm saying now don't, unless you know what you are doing. Even then I recommend just leaving it alone.
@1fanger888
@1fanger888 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year to the Tao-folks! I remember in Field and Stream magazine back in the 70`s, they advertised real neat stuff in the back. One was a die that fitted a standard 22 round and just a tad bit of bullet was exposed to the top. You took and filed off the tip and you had yourself a flat nosed 22. Good for production style modification and more consistant end product, supposedly.
@iddan1205
@iddan1205 3 жыл бұрын
Lol this is from a movie called Bear? Or the The Bear. Hunters in the movie would cut the a cross in the point, in the movie made it go through a tree. Movie magic.
@Motor-City-Mike
@Motor-City-Mike 3 жыл бұрын
@@kentuckywindage222 That "liquid metal" transformation was used by some citizens to thwart the existence of some of the really bad guys (the ones known as criminals in the community) in a certain city once known as the murder capital of the world. After said cleansing, the city's crime rate dropped considerably.
@kirkmooneyham
@kirkmooneyham 3 жыл бұрын
I remember The "Box O' Truth", and actually saw the guy one time at an outdoor event in Central Texas many years ago, though I didn't get to meet him, WAY too many people.
@Rubberducky1177
@Rubberducky1177 3 жыл бұрын
He's is still alive. He still posts on ar15.com "Old_Painless" is his member name there.
@kirkstickney7394
@kirkstickney7394 3 жыл бұрын
I remember using the web site to research which rounds to use for duty and backup guns at my department...👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😎😎😎
@KrazyMitchAdventures
@KrazyMitchAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
@@kirkstickney7394 the website is still there. www.theboxotruth.com/
@Thane36425
@Thane36425 3 жыл бұрын
I still look at that site now and then. It is a good format since you can take more time looking at the results and reading what they wrote.
@theroguetomato5362
@theroguetomato5362 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunate thumbnail.
@MrSchmekker
@MrSchmekker 3 ай бұрын
Right? 🤣
@Coco-qy6st
@Coco-qy6st 3 ай бұрын
*fortunate
@jjames5928
@jjames5928 2 ай бұрын
😂😂
@Derek-ls3wg
@Derek-ls3wg 2 ай бұрын
😂
@justsomemincedgarlic
@justsomemincedgarlic 3 жыл бұрын
Ive put over 200 hours into playing red dead redemption 2 so i already know that split tip bullets are at least 25% more effective than standards . And you have to be sitting next to your camp fire to make them.
@JeremyWashington1489
@JeremyWashington1489 3 жыл бұрын
Brooo, that’s exactly what I thought when I clicked on the video. Next I need to see a video on homing tomahawks
@kanaka118446
@kanaka118446 3 жыл бұрын
You can make them from horseback too I think.
@justsomemincedgarlic
@justsomemincedgarlic 3 жыл бұрын
@@kanaka118446 youre right! I played for months before i realized there was a crafting option in the same wheel slot as the campsite selection. Used to be a pain in the ass setting up and tearing down camp each time just to make a few improved arrows haha
@fbfoot
@fbfoot 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@dougg5707
@dougg5707 3 жыл бұрын
Red dead redemption is relevant to a ballistics comparative review? So a couple of porn clips made you a stud. Mmhhhmm
@SurvivalRussia
@SurvivalRussia 3 жыл бұрын
The difference in performance is quite surprising. Well done guys. The end card is epic :)
@rickyspanish2435
@rickyspanish2435 3 жыл бұрын
Your hackers failed. Freaky creepy Joe were elected. WTF man?
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lars!
@KrazyMitchAdventures
@KrazyMitchAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
@@taofledermaus Hey Jeff: take a Foster Slug, and cut a slit in the nose.. I am curious if it'll react like the .22
@joesinakandid528
@joesinakandid528 3 жыл бұрын
@@laughingdog747 Squirrels & Bunnies - head shots @ 30 yards. :~) - Joe -
@Bacteriophagebs
@Bacteriophagebs 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the point of modifying a .22 to turn a cheap round-nose into an expanding bullet? Seems like a waste to turn a hollowpoint into a split-nose.
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never tire of you using the unsolved mysteries theme. Shows our age, but IDC. :)
@-_-naab-_-
@-_-naab-_- 3 жыл бұрын
Hell im not even American and I love these guys
@TruthIsTheNewHate84
@TruthIsTheNewHate84 3 жыл бұрын
I used to love watching that show. That was back before everyone had cell phones.
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruthIsTheNewHate84 I was about a fourth grader, maybe fifth grader, in 1989 watching it. it was one of the first shows I remember actually scaring me where I was really scared or it changed how I acted in public and paid attention to my surroundings.
@TruthIsTheNewHate84
@TruthIsTheNewHate84 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagibson2520 yeah I was also a kid. Dont remember how old. I do remember getting excited any time they would have a paranormal story. Thise always scared me as a kid. Back them Unsolved Mysteries was the only tv show that had paranormal stuff. Now there's all kinds of paranormal shows but they are all pretty bad compared to Unsolved Mysteries.
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 3 жыл бұрын
@@TruthIsTheNewHate84 you're right. It was certainly the first. It was a damn great decade. I know I sound like that old fart, but it was. My life is split in half by 911 and cell phones it seems vs the world we lived in back then. I'm 42 so yeah. 22 years before and 21 after pretty much.
@MrArcher0
@MrArcher0 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve done this for years. Impressive results. The OTHER 22 modification I use do is dieseling. Where I put a small amount of fine machine oil in the hollow point then cap it off with paraffin or crayon. The compression upon impact sets off the oil like a diesel engine. Also works in air rifles to accelerate the round.
@conmcgrath7174
@conmcgrath7174 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah 'dieseling' does work 'in a pinch' but it won't do any favours for an air-rifle, they just are not built for it? Had never thought of it in the nose of a .22 hollow point, very interesting! I used to fill the hollow points with wax to make them go faster? I honestly don't know if it was worth the effort? I would love to see the diesel .22 rounds in slow-mo on a target but I wouldn't like to eat anything that had been shot with one. Pax MrArcher.
@empireoflizards
@empireoflizards Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if a tiny piece of tannerite would go off in a hollow point...if it had enough velocity. I have put some oil in the hollow bases of 10.5gr .177 pellets. The chronograph went from 770FPS to ~990FPS, so yeah, it works.
@justsomeguy9700
@justsomeguy9700 5 ай бұрын
I think eddgun leishi does that for some of his squirrel videos.
@empireoflizards
@empireoflizards 5 ай бұрын
@RuckusBernal Your question is confusing, but that last part of 'adding extra mass' doesn't happen because the high compression of air behind the pellet combusts the oil (dieseling), thus creating expanding gases, increasing the pressure/propulsion to shoot the pellet. So, there is no 'added mass' because it vaporized and burned away instantly as the pellet left the chamber.
@radforduniversity6424
@radforduniversity6424 3 жыл бұрын
Going back to watch vids w Danny. Glad he's not in pain anymore
@sealteamtwix
@sealteamtwix 2 жыл бұрын
Danny may be gone but he will always be with us on the internet forever long live danny
@SurvivalRussia
@SurvivalRussia 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 43 secs into the video. We did all sorts of mods on .22's when I was a "kid". The result of our very scientific experiments showed us that it affects accuracy a lot :) Let's see what Jeff and Danny can do. Happy Healthy 2021!!
@Arkanic
@Arkanic 3 жыл бұрын
I did the same Lars, though sometimes I think I never grew out of that "kid" phase, ha. I look forward to seeing your channel grow more this year and all the fun videos you and the family make!
@tomnickell1155
@tomnickell1155 3 жыл бұрын
Did quite a few mods as a kid as well.
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, effective modifications, but they come at a cost.
@handlesarefeckinstupid
@handlesarefeckinstupid 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, even modified pellets and shot them at a big old lump of blu tack to see what happened.
@patrickancona1193
@patrickancona1193 3 жыл бұрын
A simple thin straight in cut is all that’s needed also depth we used was half seen here & we didn’t see much accuracy loss & similar results, but to be honest a Phillips head tap is all you need to do
@jackkardic5151
@jackkardic5151 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff: "...might have died, he was an older guy." Danny: Hmmmmm
@ss67camaronut
@ss67camaronut 3 жыл бұрын
I got a grin out of that too!
@chrisperrien7055
@chrisperrien7055 3 жыл бұрын
I know the feeling. And I am only in my 50's. Lot of people I knew, already gone
@antoniodemonio9
@antoniodemonio9 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@leppeppel
@leppeppel 3 жыл бұрын
"It is very hard to find bullets in silly putty." That's the kind of scientific conclusion that only TFM can provide!
@Aaron48219
@Aaron48219 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the King of Random confirmed this in one episode as well.
@lukearts2954
@lukearts2954 3 жыл бұрын
But you can't argue with the accuracy of that conclusion! lol
@sandraclowdus6549
@sandraclowdus6549 2 жыл бұрын
"Jesus will help you aim"
@jeffd.8105
@jeffd.8105 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Danny made it back. I missed his quips. When defication hits the rotary oscillator..... Had me rollin.
@bobellis1022
@bobellis1022 Жыл бұрын
I just watched this in Feb. 2023. I was good and sad at the same time to see Danny again. R.I.P. our dear friend. Love the channel by the way!
@AlienLivesMatter
@AlienLivesMatter 3 жыл бұрын
I really like how well the everyday object targets demonstrated the difference.
@kevinfinney8237
@kevinfinney8237 3 жыл бұрын
The "Box o' Truth" was cool. He did stuff similar to what you all do but as you said it was all still photography with a written narrative. There hasn't been anything new going on there for a few years. I really appreciated what he did with what he had.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 3 жыл бұрын
"Blew chunks" AKA: "Projectile vomit"
@TerryLooft
@TerryLooft 3 жыл бұрын
We did that back in the early 60's as kids. I guess we were on to something. Yes, we had b&w tv's.
@Shad0wBoxxer
@Shad0wBoxxer 3 жыл бұрын
totally did this two days ago and it didnt leave the raccoons skull. true story, thought it was my cat till i put on my glasses wondering why it was grunting at me
@Spoonhandle629
@Spoonhandle629 Жыл бұрын
It’s great to go back and watch Danny do his thing
@sasquatchum
@sasquatchum 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite episodes so far. As much fun as it is shooting random stuff, doing it comparatively and noting results, was very interesting (and scientific)
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 3 жыл бұрын
THANKS!
@mutantryeff
@mutantryeff 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering what a split-nose solid point would have been doing - I can guess, but it would have completed the test. Love your efforts.
@ameritus9041
@ameritus9041 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah would have liked to see some roundnose with a split
@zZthenewguyZz
@zZthenewguyZz 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think a split round nose would have had a considerably different outcome being slower and heavier. It would have been great to see👍
@MrSmurph420
@MrSmurph420 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe try a magnet to pull the pieces out
@bradleysmith9431
@bradleysmith9431 2 жыл бұрын
X your deer ammo and watch the magic happen.
@johnlewan1114
@johnlewan1114 3 жыл бұрын
Without your channel I would never hear the phrase "ballistic lemon" Thank you and Happy New Year!
@ronlewis8398
@ronlewis8398 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison. So impressed by the results on the various targets. Tells a lot more than the gel. The 3rd can flew back like movies show people reacting when shot with a shotgun. Almost comical. Thanks guys!!! I've had the hollow points for years and never knew if it really would make any difference for a .22.
@Uncle_Jon
@Uncle_Jon 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! I love my .22s and their versatility. I'm still catching up on some older vids. Rest easy Danny. Hopefully you've got tons of range time up there.
@octopussmasher2694
@octopussmasher2694 3 жыл бұрын
I almost died of taofledermaus withdrawal but luckily you saved me
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, the stress to get something new uploaded was pretty bad!
@thehaze1972
@thehaze1972 3 жыл бұрын
You and me both. 😋
@ADogNamedStay
@ADogNamedStay 3 жыл бұрын
Just in time for the wake in bake in the suck.
@righty-o3585
@righty-o3585 3 жыл бұрын
That's weird how each of them made a very distinctly different sound when fired
@Eidolon1andOnly
@Eidolon1andOnly 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say the sounds made by each one was extremely weird for each one.
@righty-o3585
@righty-o3585 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eidolon1andOnly yeah, the round tip was the loudest, but that's not saying much lol the hollow point was more of a muted thud than a bang, and the split tip did a WEEEEEEEEEEEE . Like one of those little carnival prize rings that you blow into lol
@Eidolon1andOnly
@Eidolon1andOnly 3 жыл бұрын
@@righty-o3585 That carnival ring sound was exactly what I was thinking for the split point! Hahaha
@MayheM_72
@MayheM_72 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the scream of the split points!
@ElDiabloDelMar42
@ElDiabloDelMar42 3 жыл бұрын
Danny and Jeff: it's science day! KZbin: Alroightt, 27 extra ads!
@arclightvideos7528
@arclightvideos7528 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh there’s litterally 5
@martyjewell5683
@martyjewell5683 2 жыл бұрын
I did some bullet modifications myself in the early 1980's I filed solid points down to semi wadcutter and wadcutter tips. I also drilled out some hollow point fodder to deepen and/or expand the hole. I used Rem Golden and CCI Mini-Mag for my tests. For ease of loading I shot from an Ithaca 49 single shot rifle. Got some interesting results in the days before videos. Never tried splitting like you did. Was lotsa fun watchin' this and remembering my "escapades" back in the day. Man-o-Manischewitz, a boss video.
@MG.50
@MG.50 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up shooting a lot of .22 ammo, including short, long, and long rifle. I received my first "real" gun at about 10 years of age, a Remington bolt action single-shot .22 rifle (sorry but I don't recall the model). Being a single-shot bolt action, it would use any of the standard .22 rounds. I would disappear into the woods and fields of northeast Texas for a day or multiple days with that rifle, a handfull of shells in my pocket, a machete, and a pocket knife (plus a blanket roll and a pot/large cup if going for more than a single day). I practiced on the old small snuff cans (about the size of the old 35mm film cans) at 20, 30 and 40 yards, with the cans both standing and end-on. My grandmother had a country store, so I recovered a lot of those little cans from the trash. My eyes were better back then, and I was pretty accurate. You need to be with a small diameter bullet like .22". Groove shown at the beginning of this video looks too deep. I expected the bullet to fragment, as .22LR is known to do anyway, so I was NOT surprised at its performance in the gel. The .22LR is too small and light without expansion, so hollow points would usually be the ticket. Now, I have known personally and read of others, all of whom lived in the back country and mountains, that took deer with a 22LR. They claimed head and especially spine shots behind the head. Not something I ever felt was a good idea, as it was likely to leave a wounded animal running off and suffering needlessly. However, these were NOT seasonal sport hunters, and their family's food supply depended on their hunting. In that position I would probably do the same. A shallower cross (like a plus sign) worked well for me in the past on solid nose (not hollow point) .22 bullets. Such a mod to a .22 Short Subsonic bullet worked well on sub-dog-sized animals. A large aggressive tomcat comes to mind from decades ago. After the second $100 vet bill for my wife and daughter's cats, I took it out with just such a low noise round and filed cross. Dropped instantly and the neighbors never heard a thing. No suppressor was needed firing such a quiet round out a door from inside a home. A subsonic .22 Short is not a high velocity round, and a mod to assist expansion meant it never exited that big cat's body. The perfect nuisance remover in an urban neighborhood scenario. Just ensure your point of aim does not allow too high of a trajectory, so any miss or exiting bullets bury in the ground or some other absorbing background material.
@brettanderson6743
@brettanderson6743 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the round nose turned into the split point and tested.
@vincedibona4687
@vincedibona4687 3 жыл бұрын
I take my knife to the tip of all my .22 RN bullets, give it a nice 'x' on the tip. I should shoot some shit with them and recover the bullets to see if it does anything. Hmm...
@DanR6793
@DanR6793 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly what I was thinking. I want to see if the slower heavier round does more or less with the same modification.
@mightyfinejonboy
@mightyfinejonboy 3 жыл бұрын
would like to see a cross cut in them.
@DanR6793
@DanR6793 3 жыл бұрын
@@mightyfinejonboy Well @TAOFLEDERMAUS have a video testing the "Philips Head" mod. which is kind of a cross cut deal, they mentioned in the video.
@chrisbrancato9883
@chrisbrancato9883 3 жыл бұрын
Dum dums still exist!
@rohawaha
@rohawaha 3 жыл бұрын
Finally some real ballistics testing for the common man . Not all that FBI foo foo !
@SkadooHusky
@SkadooHusky 3 жыл бұрын
The Philip's head mod is fun with cci stingers. They're a lightweight hyper velocity ammo that's designed to open up quickly.
@Rnemhrd
@Rnemhrd 3 жыл бұрын
Stangers
@annotten7413
@annotten7413 3 жыл бұрын
It affects their accuracy once you start shooting beyond 100 yards
@LextechLighting
@LextechLighting 3 жыл бұрын
You know what else affects their accuracy beyond 100 yds? Landing in the dirt....it’s a friggin 22.
@a1tanner528
@a1tanner528 3 жыл бұрын
Split round noses would be awesome to see that is how I remember doing it as a kid rabbit hunting because I didn’t have hollow points
@jackvernian7779
@jackvernian7779 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff & Danny! In my humble opinion this is one of the best & most informative vids you've done so far. Far more scientific and useful! I hope to see more videos with such comparisons. Happy new year!
@kennethrosbury2819
@kennethrosbury2819 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the split bullet in slow motion it had a major cavitation on impact more than both of the other ones put together
@seanhayes8461
@seanhayes8461 3 жыл бұрын
this is an older comment but nobody seemed to really acknowledge this, it's extremely noticeable
@cyberspooky
@cyberspooky 3 жыл бұрын
Cavitation causes major internal damage , plus those petals going in different directions increases the chance of hitting arteries 👍
@Shad0wBoxxer
@Shad0wBoxxer 3 жыл бұрын
so, a note to this, a .22LR split point didnt leave a raccoons skull at 3 inches away, i did the whole here kitty kitty before i put my glasses on and popped it
@coldwaterhunter8176
@coldwaterhunter8176 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff: He may have died because he was an older guy. Danny: *Cringes inside*
@dannyakatrikerred7381
@dannyakatrikerred7381 3 жыл бұрын
Coldwater Hunter 😬. 🇺🇸😎
@kyle18934
@kyle18934 3 жыл бұрын
@John Cliff he shot extra bouncy silly puddy
@thatguybrody4819
@thatguybrody4819 3 жыл бұрын
danny might have cringed at that, but i think he would have preferred that over what he had to deal with before he died. rest in peace danny.
@cs_yt
@cs_yt 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff, you should have cut a round nose too for comparison, cause old school didn't have no HP. 😜 Great Video!
@johnoconnor4941
@johnoconnor4941 Жыл бұрын
I've had to change my phone and service provider. A gift really. Becsuse I am going through the catalogue again and it's great to see Danny at his best. God bless pal.
@mdpatton2
@mdpatton2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in my 40s and have been doing that since I got my first .22 in my early teens. I did it to my round nose bullets to turn them into a "hollow point". Round nose bullets were cheaper. Awesome to know that it actually makes a difference.
@Leverguns50
@Leverguns50 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to be good, that was really interesting and there was a lot of difference, my grandpa talked about doing that for shooting coyotes
@ponthis1
@ponthis1 3 жыл бұрын
we Kentucky boys call them "hillbilly hollow points" great video Jeff... and great shooting Danny. thanks and Happy New Year to the entire TAOFLEDERMAUS crew!
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 3 жыл бұрын
thank you Larry!!
@larryray3178
@larryray3178 3 жыл бұрын
People have been modifying bullets ever since there have been bullets. Back in the late 1800’s they were known as “dum-dums” and are great defensive rounds. If all I have to defend myself is a .22 and some idiot comes at me with a large knife, I don’t want him to keep coming and carve me up even with a dozen rounds of unmodified bullets in him before he drops.
@crimsonhalo13
@crimsonhalo13 3 жыл бұрын
> "Jeff's computer had technical issues..." He tested to see if it was Level 3 compliant, didn't he?
@winn305
@winn305 3 жыл бұрын
His computer had covid 😷
@davidhudson5452
@davidhudson5452 3 жыл бұрын
@@winn305 Got Lead Poison
@SuperDavidEF
@SuperDavidEF 3 жыл бұрын
He should, since it's dead anyway, right?
@ABrit-bt6ce
@ABrit-bt6ce 3 жыл бұрын
Y2k test ?
@saskafrass1985
@saskafrass1985 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not... Maybe not yet?
@Aaron-zu3xn
@Aaron-zu3xn Жыл бұрын
we miss you Danny rip brother
@AdinoEznite
@AdinoEznite 3 жыл бұрын
"What will happen with 5# of Silly Putty?" "You'll shoot yer eye out, kid."
@Gottaculat
@Gottaculat 3 жыл бұрын
Movie producers: "We want to tell a fantastic story, but the CGI is gonna cost us over $200M alone..." A 1930s radio: "Hold my whiskey..."
@festerallday
@festerallday 3 жыл бұрын
Rye
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 жыл бұрын
@@laughingdog747 don't give them ideas....
@xandergross8474
@xandergross8474 3 жыл бұрын
Your soap test reminds me Kentucky Ballistics' paraffin block experiment not so long ago. Pretty damn spectacular thing when it comes to high energy bullets btw
@nagasako7
@nagasako7 3 жыл бұрын
Next time I'm attacked by a box of soap, my Ruger will be loaded with splits.
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 жыл бұрын
Wash day won't catch me by surprise again!
@frankwebster3656
@frankwebster3656 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a great video, lots of info, amazing. Splitpoint, holy crap, devastating. You can here the ricochet, or energy release of the bullet. Stay safe.
@Fangolio
@Fangolio 3 ай бұрын
Great to see that man again. Rest well Sir.
@DSlyde
@DSlyde 3 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting and very cleanly made video. Just well structured and edited and I really liked the direct comparisons showed backed to back. Made the results easy to understand and compare, which is something not everyone manages to do. Not that the usual videos are bad by any stretch, this one was just particularly good, so i figured I'd leave a comment for the algorithm in appreciation.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@trylessego
@trylessego 3 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I would do things like this to my .22lr rounds. Always got small drill bits and made large hollow points or sharpen them with a file.
@COIcultist
@COIcultist 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about large hollow points too. How many of you spotted the stress lines visible on the inside of the split point can?
@alsaunders7805
@alsaunders7805 3 жыл бұрын
Me too 🤓🍻
@Dakota-je9os
@Dakota-je9os 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent shot placement by Danny. You could really tell the difference between the first three shots.
@Ussmak
@Ussmak 3 жыл бұрын
Officer Greg's cameo at the end is why you keep me coming back, Tao.
@tealtazmanian966
@tealtazmanian966 3 жыл бұрын
We did this with the old 22-shorts lead round nose back in the 50's/60's and found 2 things about them. 1st was the split tips definitely DID more damage but accuracy suffered a bunch...I mean it was hard to even hit a soup can at 30yrds with the split tips. Even tried shallower cuts...we did a cross cut instead of the straight across cut here but i don't think it matters much...ACCURACY just went out the window so we only used them during deer season where they came in close enough for a head shot. Untouched round nose hit regular out to 50/60 yards and the split tips never came close so you had to be really close for them to get any rabbits, especially any quail, dove or grouse. We usually only had meat if my Dad or I brought it home and all we could afford were the 22-shorts in those days...hell, I can't afford them today at what they cost now, IFFFFF you can even find them. ( I know shorts are no longer available, I'm talking just ANY 22 ammo, period. ) We decided that the untouched-straight-out-of-the-box round nose was the better choice and just placed our shots to get food for home. This was cool seeing the results and commentary. You guys are cool and crack me up so keep 'er going guys...THANKS
@superfisto
@superfisto 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky Gunner says that if the goal is self defense with a .22, don't worry about expansion and focus on penetration to 12 inches.
@usernamesrlamo
@usernamesrlamo 3 жыл бұрын
Always liked Paul Harrell’s advice better, if using .22 for defense, aim for the ‘right spot‘ (head). Doing that there’s no need to worry about 12 inches of penetration, therefore I’m always using CCI Stingers (hollows).
@stonegiant4
@stonegiant4 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky Gunner says lots of things. Some less credible than others.
@dan379
@dan379 3 жыл бұрын
Expansion is everything in self defense if you can make a 1/2" hole in 4" or 5" is way better than a 1/4" hole 12" deep more damage in more organs / muscle the better.
@ronaldlollis8895
@ronaldlollis8895 3 жыл бұрын
@@stonegiant4 - you just described everyone on Earth 🌍, no wonder the aliens 👽 lock 🔐 their doors as the pass by us....just sayin’.....😂🤣😂🤣
@ronaldlollis8895
@ronaldlollis8895 3 жыл бұрын
@@dan379 - hence the development of the shotgun.... “You know, if we make a much larger hole 🕳 in the pipe and stuff in a whole lot more to come back out.....” “By George, I think you’re on to something there!”
@squanchygetttin
@squanchygetttin 3 жыл бұрын
When defication hits the rotary ocsillator 😂
@Not_A_Cat
@Not_A_Cat 3 жыл бұрын
FBI certified, calibrated, ballistic lemons.
@larryschlosser2385
@larryschlosser2385 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, we used to split 22 shorts for rabbit hunting. This was in the 40's when 22 shorts cost .25 cents and long rifles cost 48 cents a box.
@himpty_dimp
@himpty_dimp 3 жыл бұрын
Back when our money was worth something.
@bofeesnuts
@bofeesnuts 3 жыл бұрын
@@himpty_dimp for real
@mdbizzl
@mdbizzl 3 жыл бұрын
In the 40’s? How old are you?
@ss67camaronut
@ss67camaronut 3 жыл бұрын
My old man says 22shells were a nickel a box when he was a boy.
@larryschlosser2385
@larryschlosser2385 3 жыл бұрын
@@mdbizzl I'm now over 80 years old. When we did this trick with the 22"s my parents gave me and my brothers 10 cents a week for allowance. We split the bullets' because they were much more effective.
@Everhard86
@Everhard86 2 ай бұрын
First video I have seen with Danny since he passed. Rest in peace brother. You will live on forever in these videos.
@rickoszpar9513
@rickoszpar9513 8 ай бұрын
It's good to see Danny again. He was always entertaining.
@zorro456
@zorro456 3 жыл бұрын
No one gets shot once with a .22. You get the whole magazine.
@mansurtxafapapaias3517
@mansurtxafapapaias3517 3 жыл бұрын
almost for the same price...tinking like my wife barrister
@fjb4932
@fjb4932 3 жыл бұрын
If it's worth shooting once, it's worth shooting alot ...
@michaelross1452
@michaelross1452 3 жыл бұрын
Correction Clipazine.
@joeroyklyn6793
@joeroyklyn6793 3 жыл бұрын
@@fjb4932 Ammo is cheap, life is not. I'd rather rely on a caliber that begins with a 4
@rhadiem
@rhadiem 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeroyklyn6793 40x.22lr
@TheOldFatDadGoober
@TheOldFatDadGoober 3 жыл бұрын
What a big difference! I didn't expect that a all! It would be interesting to see if the split messes up the accuracy at all.
@airrifleshootingandvarmint8055
@airrifleshootingandvarmint8055 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you. More energy on target means nothing if you can't hit the target, he should have done accuracy test too!
@patrickancona1193
@patrickancona1193 3 жыл бұрын
Been using split points since I was a kid 35+ years ago since we couldn’t get hollow point in “the people’s republic of Hawai’i” after the bs 80’s gun laws bs till recently (think comufornia is bad?! ya ain’t seen shite son) & it’s damn near dead nuts same as hollow, try it on 5.56 7.62 etc yourself & enjoy the results, stops over penetration when blowing a hole through 5 houses could be “bad” & makes a spectacular wound, the larger the caliber the more impressive it becomes, only got to pop one through a 50 cal into “ballistic gell” & DAMN! wasn’t anything left to examine just tiny bits EVERYwhere, but the rifles owner was cringing to even try it once crying we were going to ruin the barrel & since ain’t mine, one & done, we also made homemade “wad cutter” by cutting two straight in (that’s all ya really need to do with split pony also) at 90 degrees to each other & depending on caliber will either show little difference or a HOLY SHIT difference, the larger the grain round & hotter the load can be impressive but results will vary Semper Fi
@cornspace
@cornspace 3 жыл бұрын
Shot 3 Doves and no animals were harmed.
@drewgoin8849
@drewgoin8849 3 жыл бұрын
Clean shots, too!
@paulhoward3403
@paulhoward3403 3 жыл бұрын
Actually it was 6
@joerico9461
@joerico9461 3 жыл бұрын
Danny good to see you again brother hope you stay in good health. You guys created a RIP 22 Round
@000302lf
@000302lf 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, 73 years ago, my dad and a neighbor put 1/8 th inch steel punch plugs from punching holes in sheet metal, the neighbor worked in a machine shop and provided the steel plugs, but they put some in 22 HPs and some with a drop of candle wax in some under the plug. All this was to see what that did to apples oranges, pomegranates, along with many other small items.. Pretty much what you did in this video, it was AMAZIMG what they would do. The best part was the accuracy was not affected like I find with the split tip. If I remember right they were shooting at 50 yards with no change but most targets were just gone with the punched steel plug with one drop of candle wax under it. Try that some time I would like to see that again.
@jaysmith2151
@jaysmith2151 3 жыл бұрын
That first 22lr round is going to go through a lot more than just a squirrel...
@lenbuckholtz2740
@lenbuckholtz2740 3 жыл бұрын
" ... what does the test show? I DON'T KNOW. ..." i LOVE HONESTY. I also like die Fledermaus, so .... Subscribed!
@godmodeforever
@godmodeforever 3 жыл бұрын
Would really not want pieces from the split point in the meat.
@Purpless_ON
@Purpless_ON 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely would not want to get shot by the split point. Those fragments will probably do more damage getting dug out than going in.
@Shad0wBoxxer
@Shad0wBoxxer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Purpless_ON didnt l;eave the raccoons skul from 3 inches away. splat
@Jecool242
@Jecool242 3 жыл бұрын
No worse than birdshot or hitting a shoulder or other bone in a deer
@s.m.r.5198
@s.m.r.5198 3 жыл бұрын
Danny still lives on with us
@NobodyOwesYouAnythin
@NobodyOwesYouAnythin 3 жыл бұрын
I liked this video. Awesome to see what a round does down range with such a scientific perspective. I searched the comments as far down as my aging eyes would allow and didn’t find anyone commenting on what the reason truly is for so much added damage with the hollow point and then the split-point. For those who don’t know this, more damage is done at the time of impact when the hollow point hits, as all or most of the air following the round enters the entry hole and expands the cavity made by the round. And the split-point is dragging probably twice the amount of air into the entry point, as the nose of the round has more resistance, so it’s also pushing more air. The word we Long Distance Canoe makers call it is Cavitation. Like those squirt guns you fire the water from into the mouth of the clown heads at your local county fair each year. The water, let’s say is the air following the round and the balloon is the actual jell, putty or game we’re hunting. **What I would Really like to see next is the difference between .40 cal Ball, Hollow Point and then Hydro-Shock ammunition. I’d really like to see what the Hydro’s do to the silly putty 🥴
@paulstan9828
@paulstan9828 3 жыл бұрын
Ha!!! Loved the ending with the radio clip about someone being to good looking to be true and OG pops up!!!
@otetechie
@otetechie 3 жыл бұрын
Looks to see what happened to the Box of Truth guy. As of 5/15/2020 "I'm still here guys. I appreciate all the kind comments. But as Mark Twain once observed, "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." I've had some health issues that have kept me from going to the range as often as I used too. But I am doing fine."
@jimzivny1554
@jimzivny1554 3 жыл бұрын
"A little blow out in the rear" that happens to me when I go to Taco Bell 😁
@manoftheocean6988
@manoftheocean6988 3 жыл бұрын
🔴🟡🟢 go
@kirkschoolfield4173
@kirkschoolfield4173 3 жыл бұрын
20 minutes no more no less Taco Bell's food is rented. Eat it while sitting on the toilet and avoid the mess.
@curve5746
@curve5746 3 жыл бұрын
They got rid of the Mexican pizza and 7 layer. The only 2 good things so I no longer have that problem lol
@michaelmoon6675
@michaelmoon6675 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a rear main seal may be leaking
@curve5746
@curve5746 3 жыл бұрын
Some of these comments were written by folks with turd/fart separator issues lol.
@reeyuh526
@reeyuh526 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to do a follow up of converting 22lr round house to split point, and then doing split points in larger calibers that have soft points like 357, 44, and 30-30, and seeing how a split point version compares.
@ronaldlollis8895
@ronaldlollis8895 3 жыл бұрын
One of the prettiest mushrooms I ever had was 44 years ago, I fired a CCI Mini-Mag HP from a Marlin 60 point blank into a golf ball. The golf ball flew quite a ways, I recovered it, cut it apart and the slug uniformly mushroomed all the way back to the heel. It was beautiful! I kept it for years, no telling where it is now.
@NeverMetTheGuy
@NeverMetTheGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Slightly happier new year than this past year, everybody.
@MCOult
@MCOult 3 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: Don't get shot (period).
@biteme263
@biteme263 3 жыл бұрын
Ya, I know a few people that have been shot with a .22. None of them said it was pleasant or wished to do it again lol. I heard a rumor that ER people have said a lot of the shooting deaths or serious injuries they see are from .22 rounds. That might just be because it is used more though. I'm not saying a .22 is as effective as larger rounds but it certainly isn't anything to brush off. Especially at closer ranges.
@biteme263
@biteme263 3 жыл бұрын
@@James28R Well I am 53, grew up in a farming/hunting community. I have lived in many different states, was in the military and have had several factory jobs. I have met a lot of people in my life. I have met 4 people that got shot with .22s. One was a suicide attempt, two were accidents and another was intentional by a family member. I have also met people that have been shot by larger calibers too. It would stand to reason the most shooting you will see are by .22s, shotguns and 9mm handguns since those are the most used/owned weapons.
@JohnLeePettimoreIII
@JohnLeePettimoreIII 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, it sure is good to have Danny back. Not that i don't enjoy _all_ of the other Launch Control Managers, but I am an old fart with a long grey beard, so I tend to enjoy hanging out with kids like Danny.
@michellewilt4479
@michellewilt4479 3 жыл бұрын
Late to this, but love the name... Same as your daddy and his daddy before, I presume? I'm sure you learned a thing or two from Charlie?
@jerrycraig6522
@jerrycraig6522 3 жыл бұрын
The slow motion wound channels looked awesome and was very impressive for the .22's!!!
@r1w3d
@r1w3d Жыл бұрын
Been messing with rimfire a lot lately and after today have learned with slight alterations i can get a .22lr CCI Mini Mag expanded better than good with four distinct corners from an NAA 1 and 1/8th inch barrel. For the four corners achieved i literally used a philips screwdriver but only after slightly expanding the hollow cavity and neatening the edges before applying pressure with a philips. .22lr lead is so soft it takes no power tools and can be run through pretty quickly after. Learned a lot about bullet performance between bonded and non bonded led to jackets in .22mag. Its all for fun and curiosity but an old video here is what sparked my interest in seeing if things can be modified without causing more problems than good. *edit for anyone curious ive posted two photos to back up at least what i was trying to explain with four corners. No joke from a barrel just over an inch, i got textbook expansion.
@scoutworks
@scoutworks 3 жыл бұрын
I used to shoot CCI Stingers and CCi QuickShocks. The QuickShocks were my favourites for squirrels and gophers. The bug difference between the two rounds were that the Quickshocks were a segmented round and would break into three segments upon impact. I'd love to see if you guys could find a box of them and test them out!
@OhSnapVince
@OhSnapVince 3 жыл бұрын
The term you’re looking for regarding the soap exit wounds is “Hertzian cone fracture”
@Absaalookemensch
@Absaalookemensch 3 жыл бұрын
When life deals you lemons, make targets.
@Shad0wBoxxer
@Shad0wBoxxer 3 жыл бұрын
and if you cant? BURN THEIR HOUSE DOWN WITH THE LEMONS
@notsae66
@notsae66 3 жыл бұрын
That is one _vicious_ and so simple modification; a shrapnel hollow point essentially made with one easy change.
@kennymurphy1099
@kennymurphy1099 2 ай бұрын
I miss this fella he was the reason I started watching this channel ❤
@justdoingitjim7095
@justdoingitjim7095 3 жыл бұрын
The two biggest questions I have about the split point are, how does it feed into a semi-auto and how does it affect accuracy at longer ranges?
@the1plantguy
@the1plantguy 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, sometimes not. Depends on how deep the splits are
@MG.50
@MG.50 2 жыл бұрын
I'd expect the answ we s to both questions to be "Not very well." A shallower "+" in a solid tip S, L, or LR should feed and fly without much difference to those without the "+" in the nose. As light as those bullets are, a shallower "+" in the nose should still improve expansion.
@nocount7517
@nocount7517 3 жыл бұрын
"The split one blew chunks about 15 feet out there." Ooh, that one reminds me of the joke that broke an acquaintance's brain for about 10 minutes.
@mlhkb
@mlhkb 3 жыл бұрын
That the one where the guy was so drunk he was blowing chunks all night?
@nocount7517
@nocount7517 3 жыл бұрын
@@mlhkb Actually, it was a woman, but yes.
@bradleyweiss1089
@bradleyweiss1089 3 жыл бұрын
@@nocount7517 Who is Chunks?
@nocount7517
@nocount7517 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradleyweiss1089 Do you know the joke, or are you asking for spoilers?
@bradleyweiss1089
@bradleyweiss1089 3 жыл бұрын
@@nocount7517 No. I don’t know. Is this like bubbles.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the classic 'Dum-Dum' bullet. The subject of much speculation, rumors, and bullshit. Interesting results.
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 3 жыл бұрын
These youngsters don't know we've been around a time or two. At least Jeff is getting some of them thinking. I hope. Lol. See you around again soon. I'm sure of it. :)
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagibson2520 indeed. 😉 Be Well, my friend!
@clarenceyoung7511
@clarenceyoung7511 2 жыл бұрын
Did this with 357 hollow points. Interesting results. A surgeon would have a challenge getting these 22 pieces out of you.
@fredlockwood9100
@fredlockwood9100 3 жыл бұрын
I first heard use of the split point bullet when I was a kid reading a novel about an african boy who did this for a larger caliber on a hunting rifle to kill buffalo. And I first tried it successfully using split point ,22 bullets on gophers (Columbia Ground Squirrels) sometime in the early 1970s, because it was cheaper to buy round nose .22 cartridges and split the bullets than buying ,22 hollow point cartridges. Many gophers died in their burrows after being shot with .22 round nose rounds so I didn't get the 10 cent per tail bounty on them and that is why I switched to .22 hollow point cartridges. I decided to try using .22 split point bullets on targets first to check accuracy and found no significant difference to unmodified cartridges. After observing the accuracy and the exit point damage to the plywood target backstop I decided to try the modified rounds on gophers and was pleased to find they resulted in quick kills with recoverable dead gophers which I then got paid for, making it possible to buy more boxes of .22 cartridges with the resulting bounties than I was able to with just .22 round nose rounds.
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