[SPOILER] REVEALED: THE ACOLYTE - What's Next? Finale Review and Reaction

[@matilda_jane]

I don't really think it was necessary to write in Osha's "anger" or "hatred" into the show. As someone who has to mask a majority of myself, I know firsthand what's it like to have to act like everything is okay, all the time. Which is the position that Osha has ALWAYS been in, from the first episode. She didn't want to be a witch and was never pious enough to be a Jedi. It's a kind of a Goldilocks situation. The Stranger was just the right person to draw out Osha's true potential.

[@bshaddo]

Counterpoint to one of Maude’s arguments: Casual viewers don’t know that’s Plaugueis, because they don’t know who he is. They don’t have to. They just have to know there’s an even creepier guy lurking behind the scenes. It’s a thread to follow when and if the story continues.

[@1sbraina1]

💯 they wisely didn’t over tell the story and the reveal will be a great add on to those who don’t know the character if there is a season 2

[@ajkelly007]

She said this on a channel that rose in popularity from pointing out Easter eggs. I really like Maude about as much as she dislikes this show.

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

​@@ajkelly007thats has nothing to do with the show people who just watched the movies would benefit knowing thats darth Plaguious. The show needed more sith acting like the show didnt doest make sense when this show was advertise to be about them.

[@bendfut]

Why is Maude nitpicking every little thing? Like I don't get her complaint about the helmet scene in the beginning. There were never any rules saying that the person using the helmet can't use the force on other people. In fact, Qimir does exactly that. It just prevents other force users from entering your head, not from you entering someone else's head. Or complaining about Yoda at the end? He's alive during that period, one of the masters, is a fan favorite, and is a good character to tease for the next season as he can provide guidance for Venestra. I'm sorry I just hate the automatic kneejerk negativity.

[@TjStrike111]

I've been saying this for the last few episodes... Unfounded, unnecessary snide comments that make it seem like she's been personally offended by the show or something, it's crazyyy

[@TjStrike111]

Seems like she's been personally offended by this show for some reason. 80% of her criticism is literally just I don't like this because I'd rather they do this...but what they did originally was good. It's so silly.

[@adam_p132]

It's called reviewing a badly written show. A lot of people see this show as a bad one-that's just a fact. Not all-some people love it, and that's also great. But I want a real review from all points of view. I got that here.

[@jamesd5333]

I don't see it as negativity. Just another point of view. I'm here for it.

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@TjStrike111 She was weird. I felt she made the other 2 very uncomfortable because they wanted to discuss the ep and season not just complain. She was not needed here for those wanting actual discussion.

[@jamesd5333]

Maude reviewing Star Wars is the reason I'm here. Someone who loves the universe and is not blind to the problems. Thank you for your honest opinions.

[@Bootsyy]

I didnt wanna edit my last comment. But sheesh its hard to make it through the review with Maude. It's pretty annoying, I'ma pack it up until there's more content not mindlessly bashing lol

[@emigab]

I was pretty sure the saber Osha bled WAS Sol's saber. You mention it would be cool if it was... I am quite sure it was. His was the only blue saber in that fight, and we SAW IT start blue, and turn red when she turned it on after that.

[@Love_TheArtist]

Correct!

[@bshaddo]

And we saw it get damaged first.

[@jmclrn777]

Am I the only one that felt heartbroken for Osha when she bled the crystal? It was like watching her lose her soul.

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

Why she did to herself she just killed her father figure without second thought. She clearly never had a soul to loose.

[@TattedHokage]

24:21 Why would they formally introduce Darth Plagueis and tell us his origin story on top of the current Acolyte story in the first season? They gave us a glimpse of the ACTUAL bad guy and will show us more if we get season 2

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

Literally because this show was supposed to be about the sith lol. Your forgetting that bud? Like the writers did

[@lukeaustin1019]

I feel like everyone is forgetting the point that to the rule of two is secrecy. For Qimir to just announce himself as sith goes against everything he apparently seeks. He said "You would call me a sith....." because a jedi would. I don't think he is an apprentice. He is a fallen Jedi who continued training in secret. If that is Plageus then he would still be Tenebris's apprentice scoping for Cortosis and finds Qimir.

[@bajansamurai]

Some of that is likely, but we also have to make sure we're thinking about what the Sith promote and what they actually practice (specifically in terms of what's currently canon). In all shows of actual Sith operations, there have been more than 2 on their side, even if only 2 had the title of Master and Apprentice. Yes, it is about secrecy, but there is often the trend that the Apprentice wants the power so ends up seeking out their own student so they can be a master, then overthrow their master; and the Master is often wary of the apprentice's ambition (or weakness) and seeks a better apprentice.

[@TheDreamingDays]

I don't like The Acolyte much, BUT - 'It would have been better if Osha bled Sol's saber' - she did. - The Plagueis cameo is clearly set up for future seasons (if we get one). Putting glimmers of future story lines in a finale has been a standard for shows since TV has existed. I don't get the issue, other than 'I want everything explained to me now, instant gratification style'. The casual audience doesn't need to know his identity, they can have fun speculating over it. - During the Osha-Qimir vision, his eyes were black the way that receding hairline jedi's was when Mother Anaseya was projecting into his head, so it's reasonable to presume Osha is projecting to him. It is established that Cortosis blocks the outside from coming in, but not vice versa. Nothing suggests that force powers cannot be used from within, so there is no inconsistency. -'Osha was contained with her emotions the whole time' - no she wasn't. She expressed clear rage and cried multiple times throughout the episode. Not sure what you wanted from her here?

[@dreambuilders3308]

This feels like they are upset every storyline wasn’t finished. While ignoring the fact that it’s a TV show trying to create long term storylines if you finish season 1 of any show with every answer why would you want to watch a second season?

[@TattedHokage]

Exactly, Maude expected them to introduce to darth plagueis on top of the story that was being told because new fans wouldn't know who that was from a quick glimpse. We will find out more in the next season

[@aquanitamcclaney5609]

Great point. And if ALL had been addressed in season 1, then it would've been "...well why did you tell us EVERYTHING in season 1? Now there's nothing left for a season 2 because all has been revealed, now what? why tell the whole story in only one season. we would've like more for the future and not be so limited. AND it messes up canon for episode 1 and doesn't connect but since they told it all in season 1 with no room to get to episode 1....blah blah blah..." No matter how it goes, some are never satisfied....

[@floydrogers4921]

If your whole intention of season one is a season two then you failed at storytelling

[@vincentblack7032]

I get its not the best but Muade is maaaaad the show is like a 7 - 7.5/10. If he can use the force to see while in it I think the cortosis just stops mind reading

[@M..V]

The show is like 4/10 for me. So bad.

[@vincentblack7032]

@@M..V Amazing action, the set up was not horrible it just didn’t stick some landings. I def don’t think this show is worse then a 5 tho that’s actually disingenuous

[@jesuswithouttheu]

I had a lot of issues with the show but mainly just the writing. Also, At the beginning Osha told Qimir that she could see Mae with her hand outstretched to kill Sol, and we took it at face value because the next thing we see is Mae reaching to taze Sol with Pip, but upon a second watch, i think she was actually seeing her future self when she kills Sol, because her and Mae are technically the same person and her force choking him makes more sense as the "hand outstretched to kill him" vision she saw because despite looking identical, she had no reason to believe it was herself.

[@debso]

You guys are assuming a lot and running with it as facts. Osha is the acolyte, clearly. Qimir is likely venamis, a sith apprentice. An apprentice would seak an acolyte to overthrow the sith master. Plagueis is likely also a sith apprentice in this timeline under darth tenebrous. Why should they reveal everything within season 1 if they're pushing for a season 2..?

[@Nightlightknight]

Short of Plagueis's gratuitous Dementor-like brief appearance, one has to wonder what he's been up to all this time. If the hitherto unnamed planet is indeed Baldemnic it would make some sense for him to have remained an undetectable presence there while a source of cortosis was identified and procured for his master Tenebrous.

[@Deliverance253]

Are you not assuming things as while?

[@JoeyAustin-ul1qb]

​@Nightlightknight except for the fact that the cameo was actually Darth Tenebrous and not Darth Plagueis. This is clearly evident because they took the opportunity to mask most of his lower face so as to be ambiguous on the identity. Closer inspection would also reveal that his head is not long enough to be Darth Plagueis. Qimir was never a Sith. He and Osha go on to form the Knights of Ren.

[@craftypacaderm2095]

Thank you! The amount of complaints I have seen during this show that are based on jumped to conclusions is wiiiild

[@VAViking]

I don't think "The Stranger" is a sith, he doesn't have yellow eyes. We saw a sith with yellow eyes, so why wouldn't the other have yellow eyes?

[@Quijoteb]

Peeps we criticize films for feeding us answers as we are dumb. When a show lets us figure out that that OSHA is struggling and will make the turn now is a problem that they didn’t esplain this?

[@TheDreamingDays]

So true, there is so much 'stop spelling everything out to the audience, but WAIT why didn't they spell this out for us?' It's silly.

[@hoos3014]

💯 There's a reason most shows spell things out in crayon like the audience is dumb.

[@mithrandyr-b8y]

Venestra doesn't know about the vergeance, Sol never said anything about that cause he didn't have proofs he said, she probably told Yoda what happened, the lie she had to say to calm things with the senate and that she thinks her ex padawan is responsible, a fallen Jedi, no Sith to worry about

[@sndhigh]

That’s a good point

[@ceezyjeffezy2213]

Aniseya and the Senator: You’re self righteous noble intentions are going to lead to ruin. Maude: Venestra still lying is stupid. Facepalm

[@MJ-sf9xh]

Maude is totally right! LOVE her so much! This show needed a bit ....'more'. Underdeveloped characters and plot points scattered all over the place. I like the show but I really wanted to love it. The fights were the best part but need more cohesion to get excited about future seasons.

[@revrodgers]

I really believe there was nothing for Maude that would have made her love the episode. Her words for this entire series was, “I would have wished…”.

[@Lillian.Gao.]

@@revrodgers yes, she came in with predetermined bias, which sadly makes it difficult to swallow even her valid criticisms

[@icoborg]

@@Lillian.Gao. hell no..the entire episode dialogue is ridiculous..

[@Lillian.Gao.]

@@icoborg that’s got nothing to do with the point we are making

[@TheDreamingDays]

Yeah, I don't like it when people watch shows with the "I would have told the story THIS way, and I'm upset they are not telling it the way I want it in my head" mentality. Instead of watching the show as is. Meet the story where it's at, instead of basically wishing it were an entirely different show. At that point you should be writing your own stories or watching something else. I get that this is Maude's job though, so to be fair, it is a bit different in her case.

[@asholmes]

I think Maude is overly negative - seems like she’s looking for reasons not to like it as much. Causes inaccuracies. For example she stated she wanted more emotion when Osha turned like Anakin. But there was none at his turn. No yelling and screaming when he turned and killed Windu, or the younglings or when he first arrived on Mustafar. It was actually very similar until he faced Obiwan.

[@sndhigh]

Yeah, if you wanna talk about people turning to the dark side in a lackluster way. This is a bit oversimplified, but anakin was basically just like “yeah, ok” - at least in the movies. You see a lot more in TCW. I think Maude is entitled to her opinion and I think it gives this break room episode a more of a balanced approach. It’s good to hear someone dislike the show without resorting to being terrible towards people. Ok, that went on too long and I got off topic 😅

[@myafelicia]

I think Maude wanted to hear more whining like Ani did until he turned? Maybe Maude is used to think and feel that "whining" is "being emotional"? I agree with you: she is overly negative (and not critical) and is clearly nitpicking, and it makes me wonder wat she actually likes in the SW universe.

[@karlanacion9967]

I listened to Maude talk about how neat it would have been if Oshia killed Sol with his own light saber. That totally defeats the purpose of”test” of killing without a light saber. This was test. Maybe Maude should go back and watch the whole series - she should pay attention this time.

[@DimirDaddy]

I just feel like there is at least 2 episodes missing from the show

[@woody9437]

I feel like there were 8 too many episodes to this show

[@OneRandomVictory]

It's cause 2 of the episodes should have been folded into other episodes (3 and 7, 4 and 5).

[@brandonp987]

Yeah it definitely felt like there should’ve been more explained because none of the big surprises or payoffs felt earned. Also, the pacing and what they chose to focus on at times felt weird. Like the show was slow but felt rushed at the same time

[@freddyfaerie3499]

I hope season 2 opens with the reveal that its actually Yaddle shes speaking to

[@ibidiby1]

😂😂😂😂

[@erikagholston6610]

That would be great.

[@annfran3543]

She had long hair, red/brown in tales of the Jedi so definitely Yoda.

[@freddyfaerie3499]

@@annfran3543 um what?

[@emigab]

Maybe the helmet doesn't block the force in the way the witches connect to it. Also, I think her choking Sol WHILE bleeding the kyber is her channeling that anger. We can't expect her to display her anger the same way Anakin does.

[@babytoshiro7014]

True. That was a silly nitpick

[@chepscity393]

Doesn’t anyone remember Mae asking The Stranger about his master, and he says, “he likes to collect people!” THAT IS PLAGUEIS!!!

[@bajansamurai]

What you may be forgetting there is that at the time, Mae did not know Qimir was Darth Smiley/the Stranger. She never saw him without his helmet and thought Qimir was just another pawn used for intel and goods. Plaqueis is completely unknown to Mae; Qimir trains with him secretly by that cave then meets Mae elsewhere and trains her disguised as the Stranger the entire time; then when he sent her on her trials he sent her to 'another' associate: himself! At this stage he is undisguised and posing as a less opposing figure, an apothecary and smuggler, who pretends that his Stranger form is his master who "...collects people." Had Mae proven her worth, he would only then take her to Plaqueis. The question is only whether he would be taking her there to try to kill Plagueis and seize more power, or if it is all in service to Plaqueis.

[@timtoe40]

I remember. Since Osha didn't agree to join him on Baldemnic, there was no reason to tell her about his master

[@TattedHokage]

@@chepscity393 I know you see the person that debunked your statement; what do you have to say to that?

[@HectorZamarron-hp5yk]

I think there is some truth to that , it might be clever writing when he says “he collects people” It think we are meant to go back and rethink what quimir said at that moment , knowing plagious is here.

[@slimpanther]

I just wish...Maude would address her nit-pickiness, it would have made her complaints more tolerable

[@ddm62571]

As bad as the show is I'm fine with her nit- picking.

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

Just stop the shows horrible

[@camryngalvan5920]

when i tell you, i was waiting for this vid to drop today because break room after shows are how i get through a rough day at work 😅 love you guys !!🤘🏼

[@revrodgers]

New drinking game…drink when Maude says, “What would have been…”

[@hoos3014]

Alcohol poisoning 😵

[@Ronariverah]

You don't need to know who "the mysterious" person is. We didn’t know who The Stranger was. He is just big and bad.

[@TjStrike111]

Literally...

[@Imri_Cantaros]

Fr! Even we don't know what's that planet was. They never told us. It's still the "UNKNOWN PLANET"

[@AirDave15]

8:42 the kid who always has to be right in class energy 😂 Brandon’s just like “wtf?”

[@Deplorableprogressive]

Maude has been acting like an armchair quarterback like the rest of the internet. Smh

[@babytoshiro7014]

Yup, notice it lmao

[@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter]

Yay, another episode of "Let's Spoonfeed Maude!"

[@babytoshiro7014]

hahaha so true but she can stay lol

[@k.-__-]

What? Can't agree with that one.

[@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter]

@@k.-__- Fair, I like her on most stuff.

[@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter]

@@babytoshiro7014 Honestly, agreed. Had some coffee and that's too much

[@Seb_X]

Thank you for all the points. Great panel.

[@AlSween]

The moral of the story is that Osha wanted a lightsaber without being a Jedi.

[@Amplifymagic]

strong independent Padawan, need no Master.

[@breakthroughsounds6863]

Don't we all though.

[@ShawnSchnoblen]

Did anyone else think that the person that Vernestra was talking to, on the comlink on Corusant, sounded like Palpatine?

[@Imri_Cantaros]

Right?? As soon as I heard that voice I felt it was young Palpatine's voice 😂

[@samuelballard3467]

Maude, ive defended your criticism in a lot of these episodes. But you just said to show not tell then, said i wish she wouldve said one line when bleeding saber. Give me some firepower when defending you love ❤😂

[@Love_TheArtist]

Right?! I didn't get those comments. Why do people want a dialogue of what you know? What series excatly makes sense?

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@Love_TheArtist Her comments of 'show don't tell' was pretty lame. Is she that slow she can't keep up with a scifi/fantasy show lol

[@LordJaySwing]

She doesn’t need your defending, love.

[@k.-__-]

They didn't show or tell what Osha was thinking in this part. They only showed the 'yes, cool' bleeding, and that was it.

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@Love_TheArtist If they had done what she had suggested then she would say, well I don't think they needed that dialogue there lol

[@kingmj87]

I liked the show, and usually disagreed with Maude on previous episodes, but most of her criticisms in this one I agree with. The type of screenwriting 101 issues that she has with the show are something that’s plagued nearly every Star Wars project going back to at least the prequels, but that doesn’t excuse them, and instead only makes it more important for the fanbase to let Lucasfilm know they’re fed up with it. That said, it really really feels as though the issue here wasn’t that the script was lazy, but that it was overwritten by too many cooks, likely being a victim of the studio system.

[@ceezyjeffezy2213]

If Qimir had manipulated Ohsa it would have been a pale imitation of Anakin’s fall. I like how in this situation the Jedi were exactly what Anakin would accuse them to be falsely. Osha didn’t need a push.

[@JMurfling]

I enjoyed the frank discussion, and I LOVE Maud's X-wing shirt

[@benoitjohnson2777]

Was Maude up to Write and Direct this season and didn't get it? Why the salt? Still love the content!

[@babytoshiro7014]

She was nitpicking and talking about quality and yet her ideas were boring and the same thing we seen before a 1000 times in SW and other properties🤣

[@Lillian.Gao.]

THANK YOU! I hate singling her out almost every Star Wars panel she is on… but every panel she has come off embittered and negative to the point of isolating her fellow panelists. Her energy just does not gel with the others’ who are trying to keep the tone upbeat even during criticisms.

[@adam_p132]

I like people reviewing what they saw. I'm sorry, but some of those ideas sounded much better to me than what was in the show.

[@jamesd5333]

I'm glad this isn't the Everything Is Awesome crew. I watch these to hear other people's points of view.

[@craftypacaderm2095]

​@@Lillian.Gao.Agreed! I just finished the series and came to watch for the first time and was so turned off by the negativity. 😢

[@mgvortex66]

It was pretty freaking obvious Venestra was seeing the past crime scene when they landed

[@AllGreyEverything]

Mae killed one person-Indara. That woman killed all of her aunties, so that was pretty justified in my book.

[@breakthroughsounds6863]

I love how Maude says "Kimeeeeah" (qimir) its so cool.

[@angelwings4191]

What I am getting is...Maude didn't pay attention to the show and/or would've liked a book so she could be told what was going on instead of shown. This feels like CinemaSins level of bad faith nitpicking. On top of that, alot of her 'corrections' would change the intent of a scene and fundamentally alter the characters.

[@timtoe40]

Qimir did tell Mae that his Master collects things. He just didn't tell Osha about his master

[@bajansamurai]

Qimir also told her that while pretending he and the Stranger weren't the same person, so even if it was true about Plaqueis, he was selling her the idea that "Master" = "Stranger"

[@AllGreyEverything]

Qimir said "he collects people" and that Mae is aware of that fact. I'm wondering if the version of the island that Osha saw was staged as a 1-on-1 so that she didn't see anyone else that was there.

[@bajansamurai]

@@AllGreyEverything It works multiple ways if they wanted it to, but it all comes back to Mae and Osha never knowing about Plagueis one way ot the other. Whether that is: A) Plagueis is Qimir's master (unrevealed) B) Plagueis is Qimir's apprentice (slim chance Qimir's real name will be Tenebrous) C) Neither Qimir or Plagueis were acquainted before this (unlikely, but not impossible)

[@juanpablo5021]

I, for once, agree with Maud 100%

[@isit_me]

Maude is in this! I'm watching!

[@debso]

Venamis is an excellent light Saber duelist and we see it with qimir. He moves unpredictability and with precision. Ppl assume he's outclassed by sol but it's literally the same thing as Palpatine vs mace windu. It's strategic for them to fake being vulnerable to turn a light side user to the dark. How do ppl not catch this..?

[@TheJlongie]

Really refreshing to see Maude fully standing by her thoughts on the show - respect it greatly

[@graveytraingt6834]

**PRETTY LONG MESSAGE. DON'T READ IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO** Maude's responses are starting to display, someone who invalidates others' emotions or how they would handle certain things in certain environments, other than their own. I recognize this with how she describes how Mae and Osha should react in their environments. There are alot of people in this world who handle their life and emotions DIFFERENTLY. And this may not be the case for Osha, but there are people who know how to control their emotions or repress them, even when they have dealt with extreme situations or environments. A lot of people control or repress their emotions in different ways, and there are others who end up becoming implosive. Which implosive is what I got from Osha, and even that could be displayed different ways that may not always be spelled out, and can catch someone off guard. Not everybody is going to show the signs like Anakin Skywalker. Some people can tell you they're angry and still show restraint, and I mean alot or restraint. And to mix in with that, we come to this crossing point where we can't always do the same thing when it comes to someone's emotions in movies, or shows, because we should be showing variety. At the same time, we end up having this bias towards how people should conduct themselves, because we become too oblivious about the variety and nature of people, and are not accepting as we pretend to be. Maude really takes it home like it's a complete shutdown on how someone should be. People are not always the people you read in books or you see in movies or shows of the past. People are people, and that complication of people is rarely explored because we have our own bias. The dialogue, yes, may not always be great from the series, but how the people reacted or acted in the series is not different than how many people act in the real world. And I applaud Brandon everytime he came on this week, for this segment. It always seems like he tries to observe and understand people's nature when observing.

[@MrJOKERZ68]

Someone needs to erase Maudes' memory lol

[@hotshotfps]

idk what Maudes problem w this show is... I think its good. Not something thats gonna get an Oscar but its good for Star Wars TV.

[@k.-__-]

Glad you like it. It might be the worst SW show ever with storytelling and writing for me. No logic in this.

[@TjStrike111]

​@k.-__-hahahha you're so wrong

[@Imri_Cantaros]

Exactly. Is it perfect? No. It has some flaws but that's the nature of starwars. She is overly negative with the show

[@therealangelosettler]

I'm fine with not knowing everything that's not a negative to me

[@heathermackenzie7670]

Darth Maude on point with the commentary again.

[@SethRGray]

Maude is right on several things, but primarily about needing Plagueis early. There's no urgency to Qimir's pursuit of Mae. It never really feels like he's trying to kill her after she breaks their deal. The knowledge that there IS someone out there who will punish Qimir if HE doesn't punish HER would have given that some actual weight.

[@williamloenhorst5805]

I think we needed at least 1 or 2 episodes to answer these questions

[@francisco_m7849]

😮 the core problem with Star Wars as a movie or television franchise is that they made it too dependent on the core story of the original three movies and the characters in it. Rogue one and Andor are really good shows but general fans for some reason cannot get behind it. Obi-Wan, I will admit was kind of rough, did better because it is a Star Wars original character based movie. Solo the movie in general did not get a good reception because it wasn’t a character that the audience recognized obviously, the character was Han Solo but the actor didn’t look anything close to what Harrison Ford looks like, and they were taken out of the fantasy for them

[@hempracer]

During Osha's and Mae's witch ceremony in Episode 3, an unknown person was standing off to the side. When the Jedi arrived, this person immediately left. Could this have been Plagueus?

[@markcohen7991]

Video awesome. Together, you are awesome. Maude , you are amazing. LLAP 🖖

[@GerrianLebron]

Maude wants a 5 star course meal.. Spoon feed to her lol

[@hoos3014]

💯

[@Lillian.Gao.]

Maude has a habit of looking for the negatives first in everything she reviews on this channel (And at times her snarkiness was downright spiteful)…. This show had some high highs and some low lows, and I wish she would have mentioned the highlights more - it would give more credit to her criticisms. Poor Tom was visibly uncomfortable during some of her barbs, making this another panel with Maude that was hard to get through.

[@k.-__-]

Acolyte had highs? Couldn't find them myself. Good for you, you could.

[@TjStrike111]

You said it in a nutshell, feels like she was personally offended by the show or something? Really weird vibes throughout, even when they were praising the light saber fights you could tell she was restrained

[@adam_p132]

There are overwhelmingly many negatives in this show. It wouldn't be a problem if it were better written and acted. 🤷

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@adam_p132 Yeah because suddenly no one was bashing Andor the series when it first came out nor the prequels🙄

[@babytoshiro7014]

She made the whole panel uncomfortable imo.

[@JasmineJ007]

My favorite alien species from this show is definitely the Skura. I’m surprised y’all didn’t mention them, they’re just small and cute. Rayencourt’s read of the Jedi is 1000% accurate. I also agree with the points Maude brought out, the show could’ve put out more.

[@M..V]

Have to agree with Maude. Acolyte was not it.

[@Philly_T]

Ima sorry but respectfully, I disagree with everything Maude has said. Why would I want every question I have answered in the first season??? It makes people want to watch the next season. It’s not perfect but definitely better than she has made it seem all season.

[@babytoshiro7014]

She wasn't trying to discuss things, she wanted to rant. She should had stayed home.

[@M..V]

Not every question. But one would be good. The problem is it seems like the writers don't have answers for themselves in this show. Nothing in the story makes sense or has internal logic.

[@captain.awesome4172]

Nah, she spot on with most of her rants. Love it

[@MyUnsecretIdentity]

Bazil sabotaged the ship to save Pip ... Only reason i can think of 😂

[@marjoe32]

I loved the show, the finally felt very cinematic

[@eerica4444]

Everything Maude said!

[@marjoe32]

I cant make 20 minutes this entire season. Of these reviews, have your opinions but what a Mood killer. Why would i want to finish the video let alone sit through the ad read. Be Critics all you want just realize you alienate a potion ofnthe audience who wants to be here and now wont.

[@samuelballard3467]

What even are you saying

[@sundaysmiley]

​@samuelballard3467 maybe he is translating it from Google, maybe we can reverse this. What is his original language?!😅

[@icoborg]

@@samuelballard3467 ​ @sundaysmiley he was using the style of the series itself.

[@W1ll88]

I agree with your thoughts on them possibly using the prophecy as motivation for Sol and why he really wanted to "Save" Osha but I think they didn't do it because of toxic fans. Leslie did that interview where she specifically said they weren't created in the same way as Anakin and aren't as powerful and I think Disney knew and were afraid of upsetting those fans so they went with something else.

[@causewhynot6485]

I'm team Maude on this, plus it's nice that everyone has different things to say! It's a real conversation, but the one thing I will say is this is some of my favourite fighting in all of Star Wars

[@ikediamond]

Andor is superbly written and og Stars Wars know that it leads directly to Rogue 1, A New Hope, and to Anakin Skywalker’s destruction of the Death Star

[@Julian-Yuki]

Maude, as always on point. See, you can be a nice person and dislike and criticize the show. That's called having an opinion.

[@adam_p132]

Thank you! Feels like some people are allergic to criticism these days.

[@timmoore8623]

As usual the main character who hasn’t used the force in years magically wields the force to force choke a Jedi master. May trained constantly but was scared of buff boy but Osha can beat a Jedi master????

[@BEETTHESE]

If season 2 happens, I would personally like to see Qimir and Osha training to challenge Darth Plagiues for the title of Sith Lord and what not but when they do (at the midway point of the season) Plagiues just laughs and introduces his true apprentice Darth Sidious. Rest of season is Plagiues and Palpatine hunting down Osha and Qimir while we learn about the sith.

[@YetiVlogs]

More than once when they talked about the vergence they were looking up at the moons in near alignment. I am guessing its several force rich bodies coming into alignment focusing multiple power sources onto one location allowing for unimaginable things through the force.

[@YetiVlogs]

I was under the impression that the motivation for splitting 1 being into 2 was to create the ultimate "Power of 2" system as the were being taught in one of the early episodes. Their whole thing was power in numbers. And 2 identicals should function together flawlessly unless their minds develop to desire different things. Thereby causing all this strife.

[@Bootsyy]

Alota fans are weird and nit-picky for no reason. So now yall mad theres Hell in star wars because a girl said it? Or because yall want something to hate (for all the "hell comments"). I aint ever hear anyone complain when Han said "See you in Hell" LMAO

[@M..V]

Oh there are reasons. Many of them.

[@AlSween]

I'm feeling like Maude.

[@AirDave15]

I was stoked after this finale. After visiting reel rejects and now this my hype has completely washed away. This is supposed to be mandatory fun!!! 😢

[@babytoshiro7014]

Nah, it was a good finale to a good season for me. Totally stuck the landing.

[@sleinadb]

If you liked it you can like it. I did and yet I still love watching these after shows for different points of view. Disagree with some of their opinions...and it makes me think differently in some ways. But I STILL like it.

[@bajansamurai]

​@@babytoshiro7014completely fair. In my opinion it was a good finale for what it was. The flaws people clocked throughout the season were 50% legit, 20% reading too much into certain things and 30% misunderstanding/missing what was given. That 50% legit stuff concerns stiff acting, narrative choices, pacing, character decisions, contrived conveniences, and the like, but those aren't always the concerns of the average viewer, so it is easier for some to follow along and just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that, but for those that pick up on those things more, it is hard to overlook and takes away a lot of potential enjoyment.

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@bajansamurai That wasn't even 50% because the "stiff acting wasn't all the time, the narrative wasn't that bad, and the rest you stated also wasn't imo. 70% of this show was servicable to good imo. This show just wasn't that bad. The toxic fan base has no legs to stand on since they were review bombing before the first ep even aired.

[@ibidiby1]

​@@bajansamuraialso "not waiting for the show to actually answer questions". So many points people were bringing up could be answered with "the show isn't finished yet". All in all they stuck the landing answered outstanding questions, and left the right things open for season 2

[@ShakirBaruka-dz1ze]

There was that line between Maye and Osha not knowing where their little song came from. One of them even says, “I thought it was you that made it up”. Perhaps it was Mother Aniseya that said it, maybe as a part of the creation process, an incantation of sorts

[@thelodownshow313]

Mother Coral said I carried the twins in pregnancy. Basically

[@darthfobbs9690]

Palpatine never says plagueis was my master, he just tells the story of Darth Plagueis The Wise. (Canon). Palps master could have killed Plagueis

[@timmoore8623]

Imagine Plagus being in episode 1, overlooking the witches creating life (2 second “camio”) and then Qimir training May as a Sith vessel for him to use. Then bring both twins to the dark side by getting Sol to reveal earlier and then have them all on the mystery planet with fade to black finish

[@JosephLoRe]

Worst take by this channel since I started watching. This was awesome and everyone's biggest complaint is quite literally that we didn't get enough...

[@babytoshiro7014]

Yeah. This was a weird breakroom. Its like Brandon was the only one who wasn't feeling the constant complaining. You could tell.

[@JosephLoRe]

@@babytoshiro7014 we knew going into it how many episodes we were getting and I think they did a great job with the storytelling, a few things could have been clarified further, nothing to take away from the over arching narrative or the amount of fun crammed into these episodes. Yes, it would have benefited from extended run times and more episodes , but what wouldn't? This was cool and a really good contrast to the other stories streamed to date. I hope it gets at least another season. Manny Jacinto's lightsaber work deserves a other season.

[@PuNkD-j8u]

Fine if you like it, saying that's everyone's biggest complaint? There is a whoole lot more complaints then that.

[@TjStrike111]

Facts, especially Maude.

[@adam_p132]

Not everyone's. Acolyte was so bad. I wanted less. Preferably, no Osha and Mae at all.

[@kamotrof]

The balance was shifted later by Plageius and Sidious. They manipulated the midichlorians and actually shifted the balance towards the Dark Side. It’s talked about in the Plageius book.

[@achoop8770]

Maude cooked and the comment shills are heated 😂😂

[@AlSween]

I wonder why the closed captions went from calling dude, Qihmir to stranger.

[@bajansamurai]

His "true" persona is The Stranger, "Qimir" is an act he puts on to seem like a harmless apothecary smuggler and information broker. He may have even had another name entirely when he was Vernestra's padawan.

[@ICE-je9cz]

We still have no clue what mother anasaya was smoke monstering into or how mae would have been affected by it. If we would have seen where korel ended up it could have explained a little

[@mrp1326]

"Young advantures of Sheev Palpatine" would be awesome 😂 Also Mog is probably Palpitane: first he suggested Sol to be responsible for everything and then he let senator into control room "by mistake".

[@Ronariverah]

Star Wars is Truly a soap

[@zengamer21]

Sol has alibis for the 2 murders of Indara and Torbin, though, so the cover-up makes no sense. He was on Coruscant when Indara was killed and there's a witness that saw Mae do it. When Torbin was killed, Sol was working with the local jedi to find Mae so those jedi know it wasnt Sol.

[@bajansamurai]

The cover up is flimsy, but it gives a convenient enough story for the council to not suspect a bigger issue at play. The idea is actually that it also wouldn't hold up under scrutiny but that she was eager for something that looked like the Jedi handling their own internal problems and the case was closed. She could claim, if even asked, that Sol used a third party for the first assassination, but fooled everyone else and secretly entered Torbin's quarters to poison him then claim otherwise, then went on to wipe out Kelnacca and the task force they sent to get him. The special tribunal would have to find witnesses of the bar fight where Indara was taken out to get to the truth, and even then Vernestra would be tempted to go and plant false memories in witnesses. Cover ups gamble on the fact these locations are remote and the council wouldn't have the breadcrumbs to lead them to look closer when a satisfying answer is right in front them.

[@AllGreyEverything]

I was thinking the idea was that Sol manipulated Mae into doing it and then mind-wiped her so she couldn't implicate him. Sol always insisting on going after Osha and Mae himself lends itself to him being behind it all. It's that classic trope of the cop working the murder they committed. Because Vernestra is dressed in her senate hearing dress when she meets Mae, there may have been a longer scene shot where Mae testified there too. Vern seemed like she might have been prepping Mae with a lie about Sol's guilt.

[@bajansamurai]

@@AllGreyEverything yes, that would be a plausible story to pin on Sol about using Mae then mind wiping her to avoid implication. Precisely. That's pretty much what I meant, I was referring to her as the third party, and without Qimir as a suspect in any of this, that's precisely what people would think, that Sol also mindwiped his pawn (maybe even psychically conditioned her to do his bidding in the first place). All roads lead back to Sol plausibly in Vernestra's lie.

[@remyhatfield3066]

Maude is out for blood today

[@M..V]

Good, Good.

[@brandonp987]

Something definitely felt off about the ending of the show. I agree that time could’ve been dedicated better in the show to have more character development make the payoffs more earned. The show felt slow but rushed. I think the show could’ve been paced and written better to make the characters final decisions feel like they would actually make sense.

[@eastsaexe]

Brandon just can't help himself with repeating the same sentence about Andor. The same words, verbatim, every single time. Besides it having more viewers than Ahsoka or The Acolyte. Look up the Luminate analysis on Disney Star Wars shows. Andor is the most watched show after the shoes with the known names in it like Mandolorian, Boba Fett and Obi Wan Kenobi. The analysis also shows that The Acolyte is by far the worst performing SW show they ever made. Deserved of course. Cool light saber fights do not compensate the lack of story and incoherent storytelling.

[@kevint1196]

It’s finally over guys 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@chrisrivera4496]

Shocker Maude didn’t like it. Show don’t tell them they show and don’t tell, Maude says I wish you would’ve told. Smfh why do you keep bringing her on.

[@IfoundMyMarblesXOXO]

Keep these writers away from Darth Plagueis.

[@zacharyalanlean]

I hate myself for being so annoyed and pulled out from the show by venestra’s padowan!

[@babytoshiro7014]

Maude basically wanted the same SW and cookie cutter scenes of Sith manipuation that we all seen before. Gladly we didnt get that. I'm sorry nothing she nitpick about was original.

[@TjStrike111]

Agreed heavily. Awful breakroom tbh

[@adam_p132]

I saw good points in there.

[@jamesd5333]

Maude wanted a good SW show. Most of us didn't get that, but some did, and I'm happy for those. I don't see bringing up the story problems, character motivations, and acting as nitpicking.

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@TjStrike111 This. If you listen. She was nitpicking over petty stuff constantly. It would had been better to hear Osha scream 'you kill my mom' to which the panel explain she was saying that. She nitpick the crytstal bleed as wanting more soul pour into it lmao wtf. Paraphasing. Then she was sighing, huffing and puffing, and making weird faces throughout the video. Very unprofessional behavior. If it was a child doing that, we be saying they need to sit in the corner or take a nap😂😂 You don't have to like or hate something to have a simple discussion. Look at the other videos of her discussing things and whether she agree or disagree. Very very different than what you got here. Just saying.

[@hoos3014]

The lady's nitpicking is off the charts!! I think she may have set a world record.

[@markbell6330]

Also i love the theory kimir was in control of Oshas turning