[SPOILERS] Admiral Janeway's Final Personal Log - Star Trek: Prodigy 2x20 "Ouroboros: Part 2"

[@aqdrobert]

Wesley: Hello, Mother. Dr. Crusher: Shut up, Wesley. Just hug me.

[@packgrog]

The *BEST* version of "Shut up, Wesley"! The only one that Wil would actually love. Especially given how strained his relationship was with his real mother, and how much better he was treated by his Space Mom. You hear that pain in his voice here. That waver in his voice as he says "I'm here, Mom". Absolutely shatters my heart. The longing for real acceptance, which only his Trek family truly gave him in his youth. The unflinching acceptance of Beverly's implication of "I don't care where you've been, or why you've been gone, I'M JUST HAPPY YOU'RE HERE!" Absolutely beautiful.

[@packgrog]

Wesley getting to reunite with Beverly is more emotional that I expected it to be. Holy crap that is wonderful!

[@jameslevy8347]

Agreed but what did Beverly mean when she said in Picard Season 3 that she lost Wesley

[@packgrog]

@@jameslevy8347 Wesley became a Traveller, and thus she could never reach him unless he sought HER out, which was rare.

[@RSmith-sy5sz]

Same way she lost Jean Luc to starfleet

[@DanielSolis]

The Doctor's last scene got a gut laugh from me. :D

[@beyondlimitationsvideo]

I was lucky to work with Robert Picardo in 2020 for my pilot episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6S2q6iDoth_hJo

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

Yeah, probably not the best of ideas to write novels in sickbay next to patients.😆

[@partyguy101ify]

​@@MMuraseofSandvich At least this time, the patient thought he was going to die when it turns out he wasn't. Imagine if it was the opposite.

[@CoffeeBlack-VOY]

So great 😂☕🖖

[@justiceavenger275]

I'm glad they didn't let Janeway retires for real... No one need to retire for a good shows.

[@sw-gs]

In 2410 she also mothballed original Voyager from museum after destruction of Voyager-B.

[@TheTrueAdept]

@@sw-gs given half the stuff that it went through, the fact that it could move on its own is a testament to Starfleet Engineering.

[@crimsoncrusader4829]

we know she's still in active duty in 3rd season of Picard and a full admiral.

[@HinesEdventures]

So this means that Star Trek Picard happens 20 years after the end of Star Trek prodigy season three

[@HinesEdventures]

@@crimsoncrusader4829 not if there’s a 20 year time jump. You notice that Jack was only a baby when Wesley met him and he’s 22 years old and Star Trek Picard season three.

now we know why wes was not in picard season 3 he met his brother allready.

[@benwasserman8223]

Yes but if Jack's spinoff ever gets greenlit, you can bet Wesley will pop into his dorm at least once to say hi.

[@SR71ABCD]

At least Wesley met his baby brother for the First time years before Picard.

[@jamesjr2006]

😲🤯🤓 So, Wesley DID meet Jack!

[@pderham26]

Clearly not intended by Picard S3 but sure

[@diosnelfrica590]

@@pderham26I feel like this episode was made to address that plot hole because everyone wanted Wesley to meet his brother. Also this show takes place right before Picard retires.

[@pderham26]

@@diosnelfrica590 There was no plot hole and largely no one wants to see more Wesley except Wil Wheaton.

[@diosnelfrica590]

@@pderham26 I’m talking about Wesley meeting his brother.

[@pderham26]

@@diosnelfrica590 Yeah that wasn't a major complaint about S3. I never heard or saw anyone say that. It's not necessary and is even a bit strange to want given what happened in S3

[@matthewst537]

You made Canadian Star Trek fans happy

[@CoffeeBlack-VOY]

Janeway is a legend!❤☕

[@kingdave31]

I don't have Netflix but I heard about Wesley's presence in this season. It was great to see him have a little reunion with Beverly. I hope he'll pop up again in a live action production somewhere.

[@randomrazr]

hes also on the titan as chief engineer and nailing the chicks

[@WarGrowlmon18]

He was in Picard briefly but we don't talk about that.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ He was actually good in this show though if a little bit unhinged at times

[@brendancaulfield970]

He's basically Doctor Who in this show, and it's GLORIOUS.

[@cmj0929]

@@WarGrowlmon18we don’t talk about what ? Picard only had 1 season just like pacific rim only had 1 movie

[@WarGrowlmon18]

@@cmj0929 Well 2: Picard season 3 was also good 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@rickvanboberson]

I was erked when she basically gets the Admiral picard ending just leaves starfleet to a house and some property but thank god they brought her back.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

We knew that it wouldn't be permanent: she's mentioned a few times in Picard. Raffi stalked Janeway about her conspiracy theories and Ro Laren tried to go to her for help with the Changelings.

[@toysmostwanted]

Janeway can't retire permanently until we see her dog.

[@brendancaulfield970]

​@@toysmostwantedI imagine Molly stayed with Mark, given the seven years he was minding her... She may have lived long enough to see Kathryn return home - maybe she could claim one of Molly's grandkids as her own (Molly was pregnant when Janeway was pulled into the Delta Quadrant)?

[@toysmostwanted]

@@brendancaulfield970 They teased us with her last scene. You can year two dog barks as she's looking at the villa.

[@masterqme]

But more importantly did Harry Kim ever get promoted?

[@HeadlessChickenTO]

Janeway: ...I'm sorry, who?

[@dodecahedron1]

according to supernova part 1, yes, lieutenant harry kim is serving as the tactical officer of the uss dauntless

[@CoffeeBlack-VOY]

Surely he did ❤

[@MichaelMistertea]

He got promoted to Lieutenant.

[@b3ans4eva]

Space mom and space son are reunited

[@JoeChillton]

I just watched the first Traveler episode/TNG S1 recently and it's nice to see Wes keep the orange shirt he wore in that episode.

[@gerrylee1687]

Prodigy is a TNG & Voyager mix like Picard

[@zcorpalpha2462]

How does property management work ❓ Do you get land on your service time ?

[@jack1701e]

And this is a kid's show?! This... is Clone Wars Season 7 quality!!

[@vullord666]

"Kids" cartoons have gotten all the best writing of both franchises. Yet they keep fighting tooth and nail to get renewed. It's the fact that this was all already pretty much done but paramount and nickelodeon still canceled it and Netflix had to pick it up.

[@thehantavirus]

​@@vullord666they shouldve just concentrated on the animated series rather std, picard, snw, all 3 are not very good shows.

[@carlosdavidsabogalmotta4327]

To be honest, very honest, no. It has action and entertaining moments, but it doesn't become as serious as Clone Wars from Season 3 onwards. That was a war-themed show with politics; here it's more about the crew and the journey

[@Overlord10ca]

@@carlosdavidsabogalmotta4327 But Star Trek and Star Wars are 2 different franchises, Star Wars is about war and Star Trek is about crews exploring the galaxy.

[@JF-tt6wy]

Okay fine. I'll finally give this show a chance.

[@NovaNova-w4e]

She.. Made... Voyager great

[@tigremalabarista3461]

Still to this day confounds me they went with another person originally. Geneviève Bujold was the original one… but let’s just say Mulgrew fits better.

[@CoffeeBlack-VOY]

Yes! 🖖☕

[@toysmostwanted]

This was so touching but i'm still mad they didn't show us janeway's dog

[@DJParticle]

To be fair.... the dog was already an adult at the start of VOY, and this episode is 14 years after THAT!

[@toysmostwanted]

@@DJParticle I understand but there were two barks as she was looking at her villa (chateau? castle?). If not Molly, at least show us her new ones. Bonus if it's the same dog Q gave her but when she didn't accept, instead of Q willing it to non-existence, he just transported it and left it on Mark's doorstep.

[@sorinev]

Getting serious Spirited Away vibes from that music. ❤

[@longliveteambrnz7936]

Can’t wait for a season 3

[@shanenolan5625]

In picard season 3 it's hinded that janaway is in command of starfleet or joint command.

[@ZJBorg]

It will directly tie in with the Picard timeline as later in this episode the Attack on Mars occurs (off screen) and basically all out of service Starfleet officers are re-enlisted so, essentially, Janeway's retirement never really happens as she is forced back into service.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

She's one of the highest ranking officers for sure

[@shanenolan5625]

I think it was the scene with picard and ro in the holodeck bar and her suspicion of a conspiracy. And the first contact day event. He says why nit go to admiral janway ( herself *) . I think starfleet has a cnc ( commander in chief) and a chief of staff. ( 5 star admirals) shelby was a 5 star admiral. But janway would be more senior than her ( I think)

[@WarGrowlmon18]

@@shanenolan5625 I think that she's only 4 star. Janeway I mean. But one thing that would cause them both to want to go to her is she's trustworthy and would hear them out. Raffi stalked her for the exact same reason.

[@darkmaster83]

Janeway... she'll be back probably.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

She's mentioned to still be an Admiral in Picard. Apparently Raffi stalked her and Ro Laren tried to contact her but was blocked by the Changelings.

[@RSmith-sy5sz]

As a kid the same age as Wesley growing up, I always wished Beverly was my mom and I got to live on the enterprise. I can only say that this scene was very important to me. Wesley coming home has been put off too long for us childhood TNG fans.

[@captainsheppard1131]

Best part of the ep.

[@johnprieto435]

Time is a fire in which we all burn

[@jameslevy8347]

what did Beverly mean when she said in Picard Season 3 that she lost Wesley

[@WarGrowlmon18]

He went off with the Travelers and never really came home again. Wesley only did it this time because Janeway berated him for never visiting his mom.

[@seskalarafey9285]

oh. Now i have to wait for the Blu-ray release in Eu Germany for that. Hope it do not take to long

[@freshFerdinand]

It's on Netflix in Germany.

[@vjutt]

0:40 anybody notice the Andorian in the background seems to be wearing the updated admiral uniforms? 2:01 shouldn’t Chakotay uniform be a standard uniform without the gold piping? Gold piping is meant for the admiralty. Technically if it take place right before Star Trek Picard Season 1 then everyone is wearing the incorrect uniforms expect for the Admirals at the end. Why is Beverly Crusher hair is shorter though?

[@BullGator-kd6ge]

The explanation for the different uniforms is simple. Starfleet was in the process of transitioning between the old and the new. Ships and crew that were on far away assignments would be the last to receive the new uniforms.

[@tigremalabarista3461]

Crusher’s hair is up in a French twist.

[@brendancaulfield970]

It takes place about 15 years before Picard season 1. I think PRO season 1 is 2383, and season 2 straddles '84 and 5. The synth attack happens in '85, on First Contact Day.

[@forrestpenrod2294]

Dress Uniforms also have gold piping.

[@slighter]

About the uniform, yes I noticed right away. Actually they transition to this uniform style in this episode with Janeway wearing the same look as Picard in later scenes. Although they mention that they don’t have enough resources for the remaining fleet to be decked out in new things like new communicators because of the synth attack (an explanation I find rather weak, to be honest).

[@markjeheaton2691]

I hope that wolf and his son will be On next season 3

[@stephenfarthing1522]

Janeway will find herself not fully retired but semi retired. I have found this out! Through experience. I thought that I was done with the ' imperfect industry' of it! Current affairs and events have said otherwise!

[@WarGrowlmon18]

She's mentioned to still be an Admiral in Picard. Apparently, Raffi stalked her, and Ro Laren tried to contact her but was blocked by the Changelings.

[@longliveteambrnz7936]

Ok I’m going to feel worried for maj'eyal well being after she hears , sensing or seeing her home world die in the future

[@richardpoteat6324]

So baby Jack lol

[@GrnArrow092]

Sad to see Admiral Janeway retire. Next to Picard, she was one of my favorite captains. It's great that Prodigy gave us the opportunity to see the conclusion to Janeway's story which dates all the way to the first episode of Star Trek Voyager nearly 30 years ago.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

It wasn't permanent

[@sw-gs]

Shouldn't Jack be arround 5 years old?

[@jaimebabb9968]

Jack's timeline makes no sense in general, but maybe Wes took him on some time travel adventures growing up and that's why he's way older than he should be.

[@Knightfall182]

I think he should be around 3 at this time, if he was around 22 by Pic S3.

[@BigAntTVMedia]

Wow so Wesley found time meet his brother lol And Janeway retired ? But how is she mentioned as active in Picard S3

[@happybkwrm]

@@BigAntTVMedia She was called back in after the Mars attack.

[@jaimebabb9968]

@@BigAntTVMedia She was recalled before the end of the episode. If you haven't seen it, I don't want to say why

[@sarahberkner]

I've seen Beverly Crusher with silver hair and I saw the picture of her earlier but I could not tell that was supposed to be Beverly Crusher until I heard her voice.

[@diosnelfrica590]

I love how they made Wesley Star Trek’s version of Doctor Who. Now if only they have an episode with Wesley and Daniels/Kovic during the Temporal Wars.

[@DJParticle]

Funny you say that... as "Assignment: Earth" the series would have likely been much like Doctor Who (and may have even been inspired by it)

[@robertodeleon-gonzalez9844]

This show deserved to be continued, not canned. Paramount made a mistake here.

[@viceadmiralq90]

I always thought Voyager should have had a movie. I even wrote a script in highschool for a Voyager movie involving a plot around a Voyager jr officer. Seeing how their experiences were more traumatic than janeways. It would be a good revenge movie where the jr officer was left behind by janeway and also showing various conflicts between the jr officer and the main crew. The movie would take place after Voyager is back in the alpha quadrant. The jr officer would make it back to earth and start taking revenge on janeway for leaving him and stranding them in the delta quadrant. Also harry kim would have a scene where he FINALLY GETS PROMOTED TO LT.

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

You should post that online to a fanfiction place. I'd love to read this about your OC.

[@viceadmiralq90]

@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon it would be nice if I still had it. It was taken from me by my old science teacher and she actually shredded it.

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

@@viceadmiralq90 any idea as to why she might have done that?

[@viceadmiralq90]

@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon her daughter was bullying me and when I told my parents and they made the school aware she got in school suspension. After that her mother that was also my science teacher went out of her way to make the hour of her class feel like torture. So that's why...very unfair and sad.

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

@@viceadmiralq90 You should have tried suing her. I get it's just a silly piece of paper. I'm sure that still counts as destruction of property.

[@blkhwkfxer]

They’re loading cargo on a shuttlelecraft with the letters DI on the side of the crate, what does that mean?😊

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Daystrom Institute probably

[@tchungsp]

this is the end,the poor guy😄

[@brendancaulfield970]

You can actually read the text on the screen. It's incredibad. Like, "she breasted boobily down the stairs" bad! 🤣

[@SheldonAdama17]

Shut up Wesley! Sorry, force of habit.

[@jtbam]

Didn't look like Dr. Crusher much, no?

[@johannahyde-parker8422]

made me cry for real

[@NovaNova-w4e]

What is ths series??

[@kimt1237]

Star Trek Prodigy

[@NovaNova-w4e]

@@kimt1237 Thank u

[@brendancaulfield970]

​@user-oi9lk1rx1i FYI it's some of the best Star Trek of the modern era, and given how much the modern era has been improving lately, that's actually saying something. It's rough at first, but when it finds its groove it's bloody great.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Star Trek Prodigy. It's a truly incredible show. The first season brings back Janeway and the second brings back Janeway, Chakotay, The Doctor and Wesley Crusher.

[@thomas.i.mcgill]

Awww. Shut up Wesley.

[@NovaNova-w4e]

I take.. Janway..like a mother Character

[@Coretalless]

Plot Hole, Although they returned the Protostar to it's rightful time and place, Gwyn's father based on the new timeline, would not travel back in time in search of the Protostar and thus Gwyn in her current state would not be born, because Solum did not have the Civil War that sends her father back in time.

[@vjutt]

True

[@BullGator-kd6ge]

Unless it’s a time loop in that sending the Protostar back to Tars Lemora ensures that the events of Season 1 lead into Season 2 and beyond. I think…

[@Chadlton]

@@BullGator-kd6ge You're correct. :)

[@marinab6010]

I thought that as well, but they covered that. Through the worm hole was an alternate reality. They had to get the protostar back so everything happens in THAT time line, leading to them ending up at Star Fleet academy. They weave it into the “Did you read the temporal mechanics 101?” I LOVE this show and have seen the second season three times already. I don’t want it to be done dirty like f’n Paramount. I’ll let it run full time if I have to.

[@melissac7081]

All I know is that civil war solum was stated to be an alternate timeline.

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

Star Trek promoting AI-generated books by making the EMH an author. 😉

[@immu2261]

OMG! they did not have Wes meet Jack!!! I'm crying!

[@sarahberkner]

Okay I deleted my earlier comment, because I misunderstood you, I thought you were saying they didn't have them meet and I'm like, yeah they did!

[@rontwentyone]

I'm nitpicking, but Dr Crusher's hair shouldn't be so gray. This is only a few years after Nemesis, where it was still ginger. It does annoy me that characters in Star Trek age as fast they do in real life. So by Picard S3 Crusher and nearly all TNG characters are totally grey. Worf definitely shouldn't be as Klingons live even longer than humans. Troi is the only one who didn't change much and still has dark hair. I know the actors (in live action ST) will age that fast obviously, but people are supposed to be living twice as long in the ST future. e.g. Dr. McCoy being 137 and active and potentially living longer. So, either set the ages of the character higher than the actor's ages (this was case of Picard / Stewart) or make a season cover longer than one year.

[@andrewnlarsen]

Also I think that Crusher is already on the run...

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Maybe she just dyed it before

[@benjaminstock5334]

It’s refreshing to hear a KZbin commentator begin a nitpick with “I’m nitpicking…” It’s a real breath of fresh air.

[@hawkstringfellow]

This and season3 picard is trek the spirit is there yet CBS moves forward with academy and section 31 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔

[@josephbryant8799]

What is people's problem with Starfleet Academy? I'm actually quite interested in seeing it.

[@Dominus1302]

@@josephbryant8799 I'm not sure. Maybe because it will take place mainly on earth and not so much in space but who knows i'm looking forward to it

[@josephbryant8799]

@@Dominus1302 I think you're confusing Starfleet Academy with one of the movies.

[@Spock4771]

Prodigy is overrated if it didnt have janeway or any voyager characters people wouldn't care

[@ladymecha8718]

Wow, Netflix is not showing Prodigy for Canadians. What bigots.

[@HeadlessChickenTO]

And it was suppose to be on CTV, but I guess Netflix just pulled the plug on us.

[@shiptoast4465]

Sucks that Chakotay and Seven of Nine were broken up by the rubbish Picard writers

[@Chadlton]

In the books they also break up. That was done way before Picard.

[@RoosterBTU]

@@Chadlton Shatnerverse did that

[@brendancaulfield970]

IMO it sucks that Chakotay and Seven Of Nine were ever put together by the rubbish Voyager writers! Justice for the EMH!

[@spaceboomer564]

that romance was unpopular both at the time of airing amongst fans and even between the actors themselves. It quickly went the route of the Deanna/Worf romance for a reason.

[@sarahberkner]

Almost no one online seemed to want them to be in a relationship.

[@voldetoad5967]

Why does every starfleet captain seem to own a house on a secluded farm somewhere?💀

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Janeway grew up on one if I remember correctly

[@sarahberkner]

"Now living as a hermit in the woods only appearing when he/she senses people need help" somebody better get that reference.

[@longliveteambrnz7936]

Can’t wait for a season 3