Spoken Arabic vs MSA (Fusha) | Pros & Cons

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[@danielpineda9510]

Do you recommend any book for learning the emarati dialect?

[@myhomeistravelling1455]

Very kind of you. Thanks for explaining us the difference.I had no idea that written and spoken were different. I am planning to learn Arabic, but dont know which country to go I am still searching as it seems it area has it owns dialect and sometimes you can not understand each other, right? Or am I wrong? Is there such a thing as a "common" speaking Arabic? I tried to download the ebook but it says page not found. Thanks

[@mohdzishan4101]

I m umable to download book

[@sarahk.6115]

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[@mohdzishan4101]

@@sarahk.6115 Yes

[@user-no1ig1er9s]

Learning an arabic dialect: > Spend really huge amount of time because there are no learning resources. > Eventually can work as a cashier in a supermarket. > Understand nothing in news, magazines, websites. Can't understand politics, documents, even an advert on a wall isn't comprehensible. > Move to a neighbor city and find yourself understand nothing because their dialect is completely different. > Find out that dialects are not related to current countries that were made by Britain and France not even a century ago, but to languages that were in regions before arabic came there, and a country can have 4-5 dialects and the same dialect can be in 2-3 countries, and even cities can have their own subdialects. Learning fusha: > Understand everything formal, potato sellers are incomprehensible. > Locals politely joke on you while you try to figure out how the dialect of this city works. > Locals know what you talk everywhere, the same language is everywhere. > With a bit of history can understand how dialects became what they are, see hidden grammar in common expressions. > Decide whether you want to study a dialect of this place or not (maybe you're in this country for a couple of days only, fusha will help, a dialect of a different country will not). > Can understand Quran and hadiths. > Can study Sharia in islamic universities all over the world. Also i don't understand whay arabs say that MSA is very complicated. It has only like 3 cases (nominative, genetive, accusative), 2 genders (no neutral), verbs are only past, present and imperative.

[@Taawuus]

"Locals might look at you in a funny way". Yes! After studying MSA for a couple of semesters at uni, I went with my class to Tunis. I had only studied MSA, no colloquial Arabic. So, in a store wanting to by an apple, I said (and sorry, I cannot write Arabic on my computer): "urîdu tufâ7atan min faDlika!" Everyone laughed and said that I spoke like the Qur'an!

[@fandyyy2571]

Similar experience here. I studied MSA in junior high and got to practice it when I went to Al Haram. So this one lady was looking everywhere for girls toilet but couldn't find it. She instead tried to enter the men restroom. So I told her in MSA. And she start saying "ameen". Turns out she's Pakistani

[@popoffpeppar]

Talk like the Quran? Seems like a compliment from them haha

[@morocco_020fc7]

LOL you spoke Fusha in the Maghreb region??? What were you thinking as a person from that region I just want to say we know French better than we know fusha and I see this as an insult LOL

[@Taawuus]

@@morocco_020fc7 Ha ha! Well, I know Arabic but I don't know French. :-P And, later when I visited Morocco, it worked very well to speak some more kind of "al-lugha al-muthaqqafiin" based on my Syrian Arabic, but avoiding expressions that would not work. :-) And, you know, throwing the qâf back into shami! ;-)

[@ima8533]

@@popoffpeppar quranic Arabic is Classical Arabic most arabs dont even understand it unless they learned

[@kareemalbahkiry4171]

I'm Egyptian, My mother teaches Arabic, And I'd advise you to learn Fusha Arabic since it will open a lot of door for knowledge and It's fully understood by all Arabs since we learn it in schools, we hear it on every news report and almost every Arabic book is written in it And it basically requires the same effort to learn and fully grasp, I'd even argue that different dialects might be harder due to it being a mixture of Arabic, Turkish, French, Coptic, and many more. That caused most of the grammar in our dialects to be distorted and inconsistent The same problem is Present in Every Arabic dialect so if I wasn't a native speaker I'd choose to learn Fusha Arabic (Formal Arabic) It's your choice after all so make sure you enjoy your learning process and don't judge yourself before you've actually spent some time learning and practicing the language, and Good Luck! 🌹💐

[@missdidz100]

جزاكم اللهم خير this was a very helpful answer!

[@kareemalbahkiry4171]

​@@missdidz100 آمين ، جزاكم الله خير الجزاء Thanks, Every advice I got from a native speaker when I'm learning a new language went a long way, That's why I don't procrastinate when I get the opportunity to give one, wish you all the best ^_^

[@missdidz100]

@@kareemalbahkiry4171 You too akhi, it's really appreciated :)

[@VwapTrader]

If this were true, the people responding would have no issue responding in MSA. Instead they all understand Us who speak MSA, but only respond in their dialect which is pointless for conversation. How do you answer that issue?

[@anaciocan9709]

@@VwapTrader do they actually do that? why don't they respond in MSA since it is taught in school?

[@fafi880]

But I feel like if we see a foreigner speaking MSA no one would give him funny looks because we would understand that he is a foreigner and is learning

[@learnmodernstandardarabic]

I would be really glad to see that someone has made an effort to learn my national language.

[@TakeEight]

Absolutely, I’m an American and a convert living in Egypt and I use standard Arabic everywhere I go. I have never faced a problem. I make videos on my channel if you’d like to see.

[@zxera9702]

@@TakeEight Is learning a dialect easier then msa?

[@TakeEight]

zee rak ... to be honest, learning languages is not easy period. So it’s really up to the learner. It’s not about what’s hard or easy, it’s about what you are willing to invest yourself in, and are you willing to invest yourself long enough to see the effect of your labor🌸 So don’t think hard or easy. Make small attainable goals and work forward.

[@zxera9702]

@@TakeEight I understand.Thanks.

[@ghazie5555]

Me learning MSA : cried a lot because of grammar and all balaghah which twisted my head Arabs talk in dialect : cried harder

[@maryamj3979]

Me too!!! let’s cry together ⚡️

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@nvrslps]

My approach so far has been to learn MSA first and then learn a dialect. Learning MSA has helped me get started reading and writing and speaking a little bit. Plus like you said there are more resources for MSA.

[@Ashrafali7502..]

Which study material u did use ?

[@hanaanharith3496]

Yes, I have studied Arabic for 10 years on and off and this is my experience and advise too.

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@armaan3246]

@@hanaanharith3496 where did you learn from, and can you understand movies in egyptian arabic?

[@mystery8guy]

Thank you for this clip. I'm a Circassian Arab who lives and grew up on the island of Cyprus. Everyone i know speaks Greek so i only speak Arabic at home. clips like this are my life, a million thanks !!

[@anonymous3396]

Do you speak Circassian? I have many Circassian friends from Russia, very good people in majority.

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@Hagelnot]

It makes me happy to hear you are providing your book for free. I recently also began writing one on how to learn languages in general, and was thinking about not selling it too. Knowledge to the people! Levantine dialect will be my choice, but I have to do some Fusha first I think. Shukran achi.

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@Kenny-Alpha]

Yea that dictionary is the bomb! Very easy and useful to read. Pronounciation and stuff are perfect!

[@JohnDoe-hp5nn]

Hi

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@fairuztalib]

I’m a non Arab and I started my journey in Arabic with MSA. I had the opportunity to be in Jordan for 4 years and of course I had to acquire the Jordanian colloquial language.. in my opinion MSA is the way if you want to learn Arabic. As for colloquial Arabic it can acquired throughout your interaction with the Arabs. If you were to start your journey with colloquial Arabic, which colloquial Arabic will you start with? Egyptian? Levantine? Gulf? North Africa? I remember my Arab lecturer once said, if it was not because of the Egyptian entertainment industries, he would not be able to understand Egyptian colloquial Arabic.

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@LearnArabicFast]

Excellent ebook.

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@SaraLagarMat]

My husband is Lebanese and I'm Iraqi. Before we got married I thought Lebanese would be easy and that my husband was going to struggle to understand me but I was so wrong lol I'm the one struggling to understand him 😂

[@ahsanperez]

Levantene dialect is the closest to standard arabic, its easier for him to understand you hahaha

[@YouTuberr285]

Ahsan Pérez not its not 😂 it’s the furthest

[@try2justbe]

@@ahsanperez you got it upside down🙃 If levantine was truly closer to Standard Arabic then it would be easier for her to understand it because all arabs do infact understand Fus’ha even if they don’t speak it fluently. It’s the basis of all dialects and is the language of education , science, religion etc.

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@nafisahnadjib5912]

Thank youuuu so much Ali, it’s really help me to learn lebanese arabic

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@deidrethomas1703]

This is why I am learning MSA for the basics, but also learning words in egyptian and shami dialect, I just hope I dont confuse myself. My goal is as I get fluent and speak with natives, I can learn colloquial or how to be conversational in it. Thank You for this video.

[@1slamExplained]

Arabs should return to Fusha, I heard the Arabic language was complaining. Who knows?

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@angeluzzugiordano4655]

ما شاء الله i subbed, good video😍

[@mikeharrison1868]

Wow! Great project to translate literature into (Levantine) dialect! Wonderful! Sounds similar to the way Latin evolved into French, Spanish, Italian, etc. The translation project is similar to the way the bible, for example, started being translated into vernacular languages. 💯 ❤️

[@MiracleLSmith-bg4mi]

You had me at "Hogwart's"! Sign me up! This is a really important video. Thank you so much for this. I now know that MSA is what I should be starting with. I can choose a spoken dialect later. (New subscriber) :)

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@luthfiearguby2270]

Thank you for the book

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@stevenschilizzi4104]

مبروك يا استاذ و شكراً اوي. انا تعلمت قليل من العربي المصري لم كان في الاسكندربة. و لكن تعلمت ايذاً الفصحة حتة اقراء قليلً من القران الكريم. اللغة العربية خميلة جداً.

[@ahmedfadhil9682]

MSA is like Shakesphere english. Its old but its still gold. I

[@chloecyrielle7234]

أنا فرنسية و أتعلم اللغة العربية الفصحى لوحدي منذ بضعة أشهر و أظن أنها أجمل من العمية و أكثر فائدة. فأنا أعرف أنني سوف أحتاج اليها من أجل القراءة و مشاهدة الأخبار في التلفزيون. عندما أعرفها جيدًا سأتعلم العمية أيضًا.

[@alawy5551]

نعم اللغة العربية الفصحى جميلة جدا و أرى أنها هي الأفضل لتعلمها فإذا تعلمتي الفصحى أولا فسوف يكون من السهل تعلم العامية انا من اليمن ولغتي الأم هي العربية واذا أردت أن أتحدث الى شخص من المغرب "مثلا" أتحدث معه بالفصحى لأنه لهجته غريبه علي وهو يفهم كلامي جيدا.

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@makeamelody1762]

You are right, the locals may understand a bit when you speak MSA, but you can't get when they speak back to you in the spoken. I'm thinking of studying the spoken, along side the Fusha now.

[@neurotickebab]

thanks bro, i am a beginner in arabic so this helps me a lot.

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@akelzeen1650]

Good content, thank you

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@linnea8753]

You forgot one pro with MSA: If you're a language nerd, you may actually WANT to study the hard grammar. I kind of enjoy all the weird rules regarding different groups of numbers, and irregularities such as diptotes ممنوع من الصرف 😂 That being said, I'm a huge advocate for people learning the spoken Arabic for communication.

[@ladybugsayonaras6355]

I'm still confused is BOTH Fus'ha and MSA the same thing? Like LITERALLY the same? Like _literally_ LITERALLY the same?

[@ladybugsayonaras6355]

I'm going to learn to understand the Qur'an and Ahadith ONLY. like the text. Learning to speak comes after. You know? or you might not know. I'm a language nerd in the aspect that I LOVE SPOTTING THE SIMILARITIES & THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LANGUAGES WITHIN THE SAME LANGUAGE FAMILY OR EVEN WITH-OUT BEING WITHIN THE SAME LANGUAGE FAMILY like Hebrew & Arabic or Latin & Italian. (FYI: I'm only learning Fus'ha, Spoken Hebrew & Latin.)

[@linnea8753]

@@ladybugsayonaras6355 Cool! In English people often speak of MSA (modern standard arabic) and CA (classical arabic), but in Arabic both are called Fusha. So I guess you are technically aiming towards CA and not MSA. :)

[@ladybugsayonaras6355]

@@linnea8753 Leaning towards CA, Yeah, that sounds about right.

[@ladybugsayonaras6355]

@@linnea8753 Are you Muslim by any chance? You don't sound like on tho I could be wrong

[@mr.brightside6087]

This pretty much like Indonesian language, we locals don't really speak the standard version. Our language borrowed so much loan words from Arabic. I will seriously learn Arabic this time, I'm going to show my improvement to my Bahasa Arab teacher in Madrasah😎

[@user-mx6ql3te4z]

jazakallahu khairan! :)

[@betr5236]

شكرآ! إتعلمت حاجة جديدة

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@mdtausifraza4574]

MSA or spoken arabic choose on your own it means depends on you which want you need to learn as you said you are right...but according to my thought that most important is practice and communicate to person with that language it helps better to improve

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@DemonKingOFFICIAL]

I have been studying fusha for like, four years now. I lived in Saudi Arabia for a year, and I gotta say... it was a shock when I first arrived. I never really learned a whole lot of colloquial Arabic of the country... and I regret it. In the Hijaz, you can speak MSA with no problems, but elsewhere in the Middle East, yeah... it’s def not as widespread. After coming back home, I started to talk with people from other countries, such as Syria. I realized I didn’t know much 😂 Right now I’m learning the more spoken routes... although there’s a million dialects. Im mainly focusing on the Syrian dialect... which I guess that’s the same as what you were referring to in the video?

[@hkwnndgeond4003]

Believe me, they understand you, but because you understand their words well 😂

[@YismaelM]

Wait are u saying the countries don’t know their Modern Standard Arabic? I beginning to think you’ve embarrassed them and they’ve turned the table

[@mohammadawad147]

Actually the spoken Arabic come directly from MSA , in many cases , it is the same words by with different pronunciation. you will start use it alot when you speak about high level concepts ..from example you dont need it if you want to buy Falafel ..but you need it when you read a book or talk about the economic situation in some fromal discussion

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@OutNaBoutYallahBiNa]

Why you are making this an either-or question. For non-native learners of Arabic, the best Arabic to learn is a mixture of Fusha and ammiyah. This is in a way that is appropriate and clear enough to be understood and at the same time not mechanical and robotic. In most cases, Arabic learners will deal with situations more formal than two farms in Morocco talking about feeding chicken and less formal than an Al Jazeera broadcast or a speech given by the Egyptian president at the UN. As such, the best Arabic to learn is fusha with colloquail features (lazim, mumkin, bas, kteer) or ammiyah with fusha features (e.g. fusha vocabulary such as hakuma, idraab, ihtijajat, bishaakil aam). This also enables the learners to easily switch into more formal or more colloquial speech based on context.

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@haq786786]

Subscribed 🌷

[@Muhammad__Ali__]

You should learn Fusha it gives a great formal foundation and it’s how children learn Arabic then you can chose a dialect if you chose like Egyptian or Sudanese but most words stem from Fusha and whoever colonized the area at the time

[@Gmack_Brick_City]

MSA helps you learn any dialect better learning MSA I pick up everything in Sundanese and even Egyptian Arabic is very well grounded and I enjoy speaking with people from Yemen and Filistine

[@420gotohell]

😇 Thanks so much! ❤

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@elmarmamaril3958]

Maaaaaan really trueeeee Learning Arabiyyah Faseeha. Is really hard specially the 'irab. Until now even I gotten out Of the madrasah I still Don't know how to Use I'rab.

[@Alisson19012]

I'm actually learning the Egyptian dialect because this is the MOST understood dialect among arabic people.

[@Kiki20kiss]

I think both the MSA and the Levantine dialect are wonderful!!! I will keep studying both, because I am interested in the news and literature (MSA), but also very much interested in interacting with people (3ammya). And the dialect is also for the movies! 😍 Amazing and very informative video btw شكرا كثير ❤️

[@yasinyildirim4686]

Trying to master MSA arabic for Quran understanding and after that I will touch on the regular “spoken” Arabic.

[@henhaooahneh]

The most accurate comparation is the 14th century south of Europe. Latin was the language of the culture and religion, the language in the universities, books and rites, and at that time there weren't big dialects standardized like Spanish, French or Italian, the real spoken languages were hundreds of local dialects with some prestigious dialects among them used as lingua franca like Castilian, Florence dialect, Provenzal, etc.

[@alessioleporati1478]

Another con of Amiya is there are limitations to what you can say. Classical Arabic has way more words you can use. For example the word friend. Classical Fusha has a bunch of words that mean friend, but when it was branching out into dialects each dialect would only use one synonym for friend and toss out the rest. So if you are well versed in Fusha vocabulary you can understand a lot of dialects very well because the vocabulary in the dialects are different synonyms in Classical Arabic that got narrowed down in the modern era. Even MSA is a dialect that would habitual use one synonym over and over again. Learning classical fusha is like learning all the dialects at once.

[@carlosanderson4479]

Makes sense to just learn both basically.

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@arabic_for_all]

أهلا بك، شكرا على الشرح المفيد، نحن بدأنا تعليم الفصحى في صفحتنا😊

[@johannagal6926]

I noticed how your hands often move... haha, most of the Arabs always do the same thing when they’re explaining something...

[@iberius9937]

Very Mediterranean characteristic shared with Italians.

[@samc7734]

😂True

[@samc7734]

I wonder if he was trying to act as stereotypical as possible😂

[@user-jx1qt7yh9y]

فاهم كيف اشيك بعمل. عربي بعمل لما باعمل

[@brenregalado5274]

Mexicans, we are the same 😂😂😂 we speak more with hands than mouth

[@enle2002]

A question please: Talking about Lebanese radio stations you can find, let's say in Radio Garden, do they broadcast in Lebanese dialect or do they speak in MSA?

[@1p4142136]

So if I listen to the news in Arabic then am I listening to spoken MSA? Or a dialect? Do Arab kids learn a dialect at home and MSA at school? As an Arab native how long do they study MSA for?

[@user-qb2de8ll2j]

Hello , can you help me please, i want to travel to lebanon but i dont know what language i need to study for talk there in street , you sayed that msa not, but in the web pages ofers of schools and that only says levantine, the levantine arab is the spoke that you are saying in this vídeos?

[@mxd-1990asn]

Personally i learn Egyptian arabic mainly (simply bcs its the only arabic dialect that i have to speak most of the time and dont really hear other dialcts much) For ME personally (as i listened to other arabic dialects at least on youtube before in the beginning ) egyptian arabic sounded the most easiest (even though it seems for others that egyptian is harder than other dialects) , i dont have too many problems with pronouncing words of Totally different languages that i grew up with ... I do not come from a arabic-speaking country at all , im from thailand and i am ethnically Thai-southchinese-indian mixed, ,grew up with mostly thai culture and partly indian/chinese culture, SO i was never familar with any arabic dialect until my 20s (now 31). Egyptian arabic was the one i chose to learn more bcs i was in the country a lot of times and still like to visit the country (well not right now ,but hopefully in the next few years again) therefore i mostly have a reason to speak specifically this dialect. I know that other do not understand this dialect ,but it wasnt a goal of mine as it may be for some others.

[@parkseonghwa7995]

I'm Muslim, and I speak a little bit of msa but not much. If I could choose to learn a dialect over msa, I think I would because a lot of people say that overseas, people don't speak msa, so it would be hard to communicate, and I'm sure they would look at you funny. But because the Qu'ran(mushaf) is msa, I feel more obligated to learn msa rather than a dialect.

[@learnmodernstandardarabic]

I find many students start with one and then tag along the other, example learn Fusha/MSA and then Levantine.

[@LearnArabicFast]

Pros: If someone knows MSA, later on, she/he can quickly grasp the local one.

[@TakeEight]

I also intend to later on learn a dialect

[@thespokenarabic1]

Learning Arabic With Angela Yes this can also be a good approach!

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@muayboran6111]

Even if you decide to learn a dialect, wouldn’t it be easier if you start off with MSA? I think it gives you a clear picture of the language and makes dialects a lot easier. When you learn a dialect, there may be words that differs so you sub in fusha so that people can understand

[@samuelr007ruiz9]

The new series and movies than came out internationally are translated to fusha or to dialect?

[@victoresp100]

Which type of Arabic is more appropriate or used in business? Is it appropriate to use a dialect?

[@kinnish5267]

very interesting

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks🙂

[@Jimmythejerboa]

I think that everyone should start off with msa Duolingo has an okay one and it’s really good because it teaches u the letters and a lot of the vocabulary is the same in dialects for the most part then from there go to dialecrs

[@user-jx1qt7yh9y]

I spent 9 years studying fus7a and I still can't speak it! I chose Levantine Arabic a week ago and I'm already speaking it! Consider it!

[@kareemalbahkiry4171]

Ahmed, STHU You're Arabic XD

[@user-jx1qt7yh9y]

@Bb Mm بدي أحكيلك إنه بحكي عربي مع صديقتي، عربي فلسطيني

[@user-jx1qt7yh9y]

@Bb Mm ما فهمت كل هههه عندي صدقتي من فلسطين أنا من برزيل

[@user-jx1qt7yh9y]

@Bb Mm من إنترنت

[@user-jx1qt7yh9y]

@Bb Mm I love Jordan, the rocks there are amazing, I wish I was an Arab. I'd give my right hand to be born in an Arab country.

[@rightupthere]

How awesome it would be to have the option to read books in the Levantine dialect

[@thespokenarabic1]

Right Upthere Soon ♥️

[@arabicmumtaz]

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[@gamerabossb1777]

Learning MSA hopefully in like 6 months to a years time I could start a dielect

[@fotinimilioti3806]

It's kinda frustrating when you start learning arabic and the one that is mostly tought is Fusha, but no one has told you that is not actually spoken and you find out later and you have already "engaged" and loved the language even more than when you started. But it is also cool when you carry on and make effort to keep it up with fusha (why though?) and try to learn also a dialect.

[@thespokenarabic1]

Fotinoura Miloshaya Yes it depends on what you actually want to achieve

[@deidrethomas1703]

Don't let that discourage you. Look at it this way, MSA will give you the basics. As a non native speaker, it will help you understand more. You don't want to make the mistake of learning a dialect only....then come across natives who speak a different dialect and wont understand. At least with MSA, you will be understood whether you get a few chuckles or not. Plus, I dont think many native arabic speakers will laugh at you....it'll be obvious that you are a foreigner by how you speak. Master MSA then pick a dialect or learn both. I was very intimidated at first when I began my studies, but I decided that MSA is the core of my learning as I still teach myself egyptian and shami arabic.

[@umershaikh7179]

@@deidrethomas1703 This is a stupid reason but I don’t like how Egyptian Arabic say Jeem with G Sound. Should I just learn Levantine then? I’m just too used to pronouncing jeem as French j

[@turtlebeach3116]

Is it a good idea to learn dialect first and then hop on to fusha ?

[@monster11d40]

What happened if an Morocco guy and Egyptian guy went on a coffee together what language they will speak they need the fusha to andarstand each other

[@learnarabicforkids3200]

I think if you are not very interested in just 1 country or region, then it is best to study MSA first (because everyone understands it and majority of the academic words in the dialects are the same as MSA). At the same time study very basic levantine and gulf Arabic books and learn how they say there most common words. Then when you speak fus-Ha to them you can leave off the endings of words in fus-Ha to sound more casual and slip in as many common dialect words as you can, then you will sound a lot less formal. Then you can slowly learn more gulf and levantine words (and/or Egyptian), so that you can understand replies better but generally many speakers will try to use less regional slang with you, to help you understand better.

[@umershaikh7179]

This is a stupid reason but I don’t like how Egyptian Arabic say Jeem with G Sound. Should I just learn Levantine then? I’m just too used to pronouncing jeem as French j

[@aestheticdiaries3231]

Should I learn MSA or Gulf Arabic?

[@judiths.decipponeri9503]

Well when I started learning arabic words it wasn't planned by me, but a friend decided to teach me some words. That friend is Leb, but at that time I didn't know there were other dialects 😅, and another friend from Egypt came up one day with Ezeyak and I had a brain melt down that day 🤣... he had to explain to me that it was the same as kifak or kifik, but that I was learning Lebanese dialect and he speaked Egyptian, but he could speak both so no big deal

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@gapedandamazed6988]

Yeah for anyone learning Arabic and only really want it for speaking/understanding. As a native speaker I'm telling you that that's the way to go. Literally every single one of my friends do not speak standard Arabic. The only people who do are teachers/poets/etc... While yes we do understand it. We don't use it cuz the grammar and pronunciation usually fucks us up (speaking from my/my friends' experiences) but hey if you want to read the holy Quran then MSA is the way to go for sure

[@learnislam6905]

So what spoken dialect do Saudi scholars like Sheikh Albani and Sheikh ibn baz speak in?

[@jimmydurham9318]

MSA with Palestinian dialect is my preference. Duolingo, lessons with Maha (KZbinr), as well as various books and cds

[@bogdan307]

Heya from Romania, it appears that your book is not available at that link anylonger, is it somewhere else or can someone mail it to me please ? Thank you for sharing the knowledge and your time. Bogdan

[@anaciocan9709]

iti pot trimite eu cartea daca vrei, mie imi merge

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks🙂

[@abuabdirrahman6456]

Two advantages not mentioned: 1. MSA is mandatory for each and every Muslim! The dialects are not. 2. With MSA you can talk to any Arab in the world. With the dialects you can speak only to a few million people at best.

[@hanaanharith3496]

Foreigners and students of knowledge should learn Fus'ha MSA. It is a language used for news, documentaries, books, official work and translation. And of course Quran and Hadith. We are not Lebanese or native to any Arab country. We sometimes have mixed nationalities and so it is only correct we have our unique accents and manner of talking Arabic. My friends are Turkish muslims with German residence who speak German, English, French, Turkish and Arabic. I have 2 nationalities, born and raised in England, studied Arabic and lived in France. We can only adopt MSA as a universal language of study and communication. Nobody looks at us funny but give us a lot of respect for we are people from all walks of life come together to love Quran, Arabic and learn about Arab speaking people, history and cultures.

[@carloskadamani9676]

7lwe 7lwe 5yye Matarrr

[@erisonerison2820]

Iam studying Nahwu, and Sharaf for next Insya Allah

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@sabuhiasadli6083]

Thank you for the video. I'm from Azerbaijane and study Fusha, currently reside in States and when I talk to an arab they definitely understand me but they speak their own dialect which is greek to me. I don't really understand why arabs dont use Fusha in their daily life 🤔

[@rizkydeshanda4235]

We do that too here in Indonesia. We only speak Bahasa Indonesia in formal situation, other than that our native's is completely different language

[@proximeoscolassianopolis8114]

And what native language might that be, please?

[@0900370pian]

@@proximeoscolassianopolis8114 I guess it depends on the locality. If in Java they will speak Javanese. If in West Sumatra, probably MInang will be the main language. In Banjar region, Banjar language will be spoken. So on and so forth. There are hundreds of languages and dialects spoken in Indonesia. But Bahasa Indonesia is always practiced and understood by all. It is the official and unity language for all Indonesians.

[@scarlethime5660]

My first language is Amharic and it's very close to Arabic and growing up I watched Arabic shows which I learned the language from. I can only speak in (MSA) and now that you tell me that it's not the actual speaking way, I am heartbroken 😔

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@samermhanna6170]

First💓💓

[@katbullar]

great video. But without fusha can you talk in very formal situations like job interviews, presentations etc?

[@fay13morgana]

Helllo, sparkles. Quick question: do you mean to say that actually there isn't any/much communality between spoken and msa? If i learn MSA i will not understand any spoken and if i learn spoken i will not be able to understand literature/news/diplomacy/etc? Like at all? :)) I am a foreigner, i am doing my best to understand how this goes because i reallllly want to learn arabic. And i'm confused, of course, at this point. So - no communality? Thankss

[@thespokenarabic1]

Hi! If you learn MSA, you probably won't understand the spoken dialects. However, the locals will understand you because we learn MSA in school. On the ground though, no one speaks in MSA. It really depends on what you are aiming to learn :)

[@littlesecretion4586]

Hi Matar, for example say I wanted to have comprehension on media (like TV in Lebanon), should I start in MSA or dialect?

[@thespokenarabic1]

Little Secretion All the news (live) is in MSA. The interviews are almost always in the dialect though

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@theblessingsofgod5056]

بحبك كليب حلو اوي حاجه

[@humzakhan9688]

I am a little confused. I am a non arab about to start this journey. My goals 1) I want to understand the quran. 2) I want to be able to read and write for my career. 3) I want to be able to communicate in arabic with any arab. What do I need to do? Any help will be appreciated.

[@user-pt9yt3ix1e]

Then you must learn 2 languages, spoken Arabic and Fusha. I’m learning Levantine because I don’t want to read the Quran I want to communicate with people.

[@paoloangeletti1226]

Many uears ago I had to live north east Syria and I could do it with my little Fus'a. Nobody laughed at me and all of them answered in MSA

[@aserlet8061]

I want to learn MSA so I can understand the quran better

[@psychologyofawinner]

For Quran, classical Arabic is the way to go.

[@abbabello5068]

@@psychologyofawinner isn't that same as MSA??

[@psychologyofawinner]

@@abbabello5068 Yeah, pretty much same but there's some difference. It's like Shakespearean English vs. Modern English.

[@save_sudan_and_palestine]

@@psychologyofawinner No, Quranic Arabic is similar to MSA except some few differences

[@jubayerrahamanmolla6036]

@@save_sudan_and_palestine many many differences 😑

[@kickology8859]

What dialect should I learn, I'm a total beginner and I don't know anyone who speaks arabic.

[@thespokenarabic1]

Based on what is your goal is. Just send me an email: [e-mail]

[@naimishtiakahmed9221]

Tbh most of the official languages we see are them in their standard form. Like only in Devon do they speak pure English. Everywhere else it's various different dialects & accent

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@faizanahmed5804]

Hi! I am a non arabic living in Saudi Arabia. Can somebody please direct me to a free source for learning the saudi local arabic?

[@abdulmominbhati2977]

But if we want to understand Qur'an which Arabic should we study?

[@michaelrossi6733]

Interesting précis of the pros and cons. Although, you say English, French etc there isn't the same difference as there is there between MSA and local dialects, but I'm not sure that's true. I'm from Scotland, and you can as a non-native speaker learn standard English and communicate fine with people say in Glasgow or Inverness. But if you listen to proper Glasgow 'patter' (or dialect), even the best English learner would take some time to adjust and understand. Same applies with other parts of English speaking world and French speaking world.

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[@tsun5429]

It's not really the same

[@hvsultan]

What Arabic is spoken in stores and public transport (and flights)?

[@arabicmumtaz]

Iam creating Arabic content for beginners. your suggestions and avice would be highly appreciated. Thanks🙂

[@aestheticdiaries3231]

Which dialect is Spoken Arabic? It's really confusing

[@umershaikh7179]

This is a stupid reason but I don’t like how Egyptian Arabic say Jeem with G Sound. Should I just learn Levantine then? I’m just too used to pronouncing jeem as French j

[@Lorenzo-ib5rg]

But isn't that difficult for a stranger learning like 2 languages? I mean, I would struggle a lot to differentiate msa from dialect, I would do a big mix without knowing of remembering the difference of both, because I weren't grow up in Arabic country. It would be impossible to me to learn 2 different arabics and difference them from speaking to writing

[@nilufaryuldasheva8316]

Assalamu alaykum. Is there anyone who knows uzbek language?

[@asit1]

Damn this thing is complicated. Everyone suggested the Egyptian dialect and now you mention Levantine.... If I don't know a word can I simply learn a dialect bypassing MSA completely??

[@Pizzaahh]

well if you learn a dialect you will need to know that only the people from that area speak it, for example, Egyptian dialect is only spoken by Egyptians and not people from other areas but still, they will understand about 70% or 60% of what you are saying. for example the word tree is Shajara if you said that to any Arab they will understand because that word is from MSA. but there are dialects that say shagara or sheera so not all arabs will understand that you are trying to say tree. TBH with you if you are worried about MSA learn the basic grammar and basic vocab and you will go a loooong way trust me

[@asit1]

@@Pizzaahh Hi. Thank you so much for the extensive and helpful reply. I will start with Egyptian and go with basic MSA grammar as an add on I think that should work to start.

[@hud9041]

what is the spoken arabic is it a dialect or just a simplify version of the modern standard arabic

[@teodoraarampatsi9196]

the answer is why thw wholw video was made...he is explaining exactly your question........

[@tomate3391]

I still don't get it. So, what do they speak in the news, let's say in Lebanon? They speak MSA or the lebanese dialect? And all the newspaper are in MSA? If so, basicely you have to learn both. Maybe I want to start learning arabic and for some reasons I could pick the Lebanese dialect. not interesting in reading religious stuff. But I am not sure, I can learn it like Spanish or English. In Spanish I watched tons of tv-shows and news. And I read also newspapers.

[@zuhaibrealest]

i don’t feel like speaking MSA in any arabic country would be a problem especially on tourism as it is the mother dialect of all dialects and most widely understood. I’m pretty sure most arabs can speak MSA back as they had to learn it in school and in media etc.