Sport Air Shocks for the ZERO 10X

There is only one real reason to install air shocks for your ZERO 10X e-scooter, that is the fact that it rides like a cloud cushion.
Assuming of cos that the already amazing stock spring coil suspension is not comfortable enough. Spring coil suspensions have a tendency to squeak too much and it may be too stiff and strong in terms of rebound.
There are many brands of air shocks on the market but the one that comes with proven pedigree and comes installed in many off-road mountain bikes and e-bikes is DNM. Taiwanese made, the DNM air shocks that fit the ZERO 10X rear suspension is the AOY-36RC as a top of the line shock. The AO-42AR is an entry level air shock that does not lock and does not have adjustable dual air pistons.
For more information on the e-scooter featured, please visit www.falconpev.com.sg

[@garavonhoiwkenzoiber]

15:08 it shows you put 260 psi into the NEGATIVE chamber, but didn't show putting any into the POSITIVE chamber, which might explain why it bottoms out so easy at 15:22 ?

[@sepposantapukki1044]

Where can I buy those shocks, I don’t see them on your online store? Do they fit front suspension too?

[@yohvh]

any diffrence in stability on speed? and what shocks did it had on stock

[@brandonhiggs88]

my next upgrade after my upgraded stem and steering dampener show up. do you guys offer an air shock for the front aswell

[@rickdeckard9810]

Please make a version of the 10x with a proper hinge mechanism for the handlebar so that there's no slack and allows handlebars clip to the board. Adjustable would be nice also.

[@orange42]

Isn't the main chamber the top valve? and the bottom one for just 50psi?

[@Maltmeister1]

What I want to know is...How did you attach the rear light Holder to the shock cuz there is no room at the top of it for installation of products unlike the top of the coil shock which is more forgiving in regards to accessory add-ons.(update)watching the end of video closely it looks like the bracket is attached to the far side top screw that secures the top of the shock.The opening clip of the coil shock getting worked over,if one looks closely you can see the adjustment screw at top of spring is screwed way down to add extreme tension on shock.that is where the Macury shock adjuster will come in handy..bring the spring screw upwards toward tail and the ride is far better and always remember to keep the shocks clean,oh ya..I had to pump up the air shock everytime I went out cuz they do loose pressure somewhat.

[@chenbotao2410]

Hi what size to the front suspension?zero 10x

[@nathanjones6908]

Can this be done on the Zero 11x,if so do you have a link for the correct air shock?

[@amd4lyfe]

Ok falcon pev you're awesome but I'm too dumb for this but can i use both 165mm on front and rear Or the rear 165mm and front 135mm? Why should the front have a smaller length of travel? Is this ideal?

[@luckyluciano4075]

Was a good question. Shame on those who could but didn’t write the answer! Wonder why they’re surfing on similar channels if not to be sharing the information.

[@user-fz3ix3gp8g]

Can you tell me the main and negative air chamber PSI?

[@otissjake]

Hi guys 👍🏻. what size dnm shock fit front and rear please guys. As after watching this video I need to upgrade my 10x . 👍🏻👍🏻

[@rashanedelvalle2018]

Do I need air shock for the front?

[@ralphkeith501]

I'm considering purchasing the 10x. Is it possible for you to install the shock and off-road tires at purchase? At an additional cost of course.

[@bedstemor37]

Ralph Keith it is

[@geestang2662]

Is that 200lbs if torque to the swing arm nuts and axle nuts??😲

[@geestang2662]

Can anybody answer my question, does the suspension have a play when lifting or having the scooter on a box?

[@ryanlowery9081]

Just as an FYI guys. Air shocks are great but most of you will realize real soon, it may be softer than you'd like afterwards PLUS require consistent maintenance. A BETTER solution (in my opinion) is... EXA Form 291R for both front and back. They make it in a 125,150,165. They are an adjustable Coil/Hydraulic system. You can choose the (LB) of the spring and ajust the return of the Hydraulic. Its a better solution IMO. Pure air shocks will need to be ajusted and refilled constantly with use. Remember you can run 125 in the front. You are not REQUIRED to use 135.

[@rashanedelvalle2018]

Appreciate the info!! So a 125 in the front and 165 in the back?? Just want to make sure...

[@yuza2]

use spring LB? for front and back

[@jayanderson9068]

Where do you have your 291r shocks set at ? Front and rear ? I just bought them . I’m 220lb and trying to find the best adjustment with the spring and hydraulics

[@welnawelness4807]

@@jayanderson9068 hey I have zero 11x did you fond a good solution. If qyou did please share information

[@tommyofastora]

Comment hooking it up 3 years later thanks dude!

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

Somebody give this man a ten foot wrench!

[@jessequema8797]

Hi what is the size of dnm suspension is it 165mm for the front and back?

[@Psycho-dr5op]

165 mm for front

[@ianrice1778]

We this suspension fit the nanrobot d6+?

[@bearlemley]

Any official torque values for these fasteners ? I would not dream about replacing wheels or suspension components on my motorcycle with nuts and bolts at simply the “tight” value And would feel uncomfortable knowing a shop would have me going 60kph without proper assembly say of my front forks. “Tight enough” is a different value to the same person on different days, or between two individuals.

[@WHITELIONNYC]

I was thinking the same. Torque wrench is a must for these situations.

[@Clipper_Dames]

Rev Rides suggests torque wrench setting of 40 ft/lb.

[@user-ke9yk5qp3u]

If you can't do it by feel then you're not a mechanic.

[@Noah20131]

Hi great video. Do you have a link to theses shocks. Please

[@FalconpevSg]

www.falconpev.com.sg/search?q=dnm&type=product

[@dronesoriangel]

Hola quisiera saber cómo me puedo comunicar con ustedes para adquirir 2 amortiguadores para mi scooter pero tengo las medidas en una imagen si existe alguna posibilidad o correo donde poder enviárselo… gracias esperamos su respuesta ansiosamente

[@varsityrecords4you]

Can the 36RC shocks be used for front suspension as well?

[@Maltmeister1]

125mm front..165mm back.

[@bedstemor37]

Weped Rider not 135 in front?

[@Maltmeister1]

And be very careful which air shock you get for the front end of zero 10x,it's a 125mm shock but if it has the valve stems for main chamber and negative air then it won't fit cuz there's not enough space and the valves get in the way..have to buy a different type 125mm that just a straight type tube assembly.

[@turaspsico]

Could you link the brand that you bought. Thank you

[@florinel7799]

what size is the shock absorber? pls😊😊😊😊

[@mamangiskuteromotovlogs9330]

what is the size of the suspension that you used?

[@Anomyzer24]

165mm

[@JemWode]

how about front ?

[@varsityrecords4you]

Can anyone recommend (with link) a good shock for the front wheel which is better quality then 10X standard shock?

[@moahunta9055]

www.ebay.com/itm/123913453028 might pay to check the mount size but this is similar to what they install in this video

[@xorbe2]

@@moahunta9055 Those are too long for the front. Front is 135mm iirc.

[@jib2355]

Forgot to tuck the wires back inside

[@FalconpevSg]

thanks for noting that shows you are paying attention.

[@DigitalKamote]

will this fit on zero8x as well?

[@ptescreen18]

Bim Amio no I tried the 150mm on rear it fits but on front feels terrible I used the exa a5 rr1 , the stock seem to be about 10/15mm smaller than the 150mm

[@bedstemor37]

So 165mm in the back, why about in the front? How many mm?

[@Clipper_Dames]

135

[@thebodyexpert8]

The shock in this video is different to the one they sell on their site. This is the DNM AOY-32. On the site they sell the DNM AOY-36rc and it needs modification to fit. I think I’ll be buying the 32. Just saying.

[@perrygoldstein2217]

which DNM shocks are for the 11x?

[@perrygoldstein2217]

@@nsdrainagenorthwest1631 not yet

[@RaphaMottaS]

Nice!!! But what about the light tail knocking at the wheel cover?!

[@FalconpevSg]

Rapha Motta thats optional. It can be moved to a different location

[@TheLondonCyclist]

@@FalconpevSg So that indicator you added your self and not come with scooter?

[@user-cy1zy9kb8u]

I bought exa air solo chamber for my scooter but it's too stiff. Any idea how to make it softer?

[@FalconpevSg]

プラドロビン release the air from the chamber

[@user-cy1zy9kb8u]

@@FalconpevSg I did that several times. Put air remove air, I even put petroleum jelly see it it lubricates. But it's still stiff. If the PSI is high, it doesn't move, if the PSI is low, it moves but super slow.

[@user-cy1zy9kb8u]

@@FalconpevSg Oh. I think it's ok now. I just did a short ride and jumped on my scooter a few times and it worked. I thought I just wasted my money on this. lol

[@FalconpevSg]

プラドロビン oh phew! That was good you tried it.

[@K4SIM]

Can this be done on the mantis pro?

[@NikolaiTsekov]

No, Mantis uses some weird soft spring

[@targaplus4675]

What is the length for the AOY-36RC? 165mm?

[@FalconpevSg]

Targa Plus 165mm

[@targaplus4675]

Falcon PEV Tx !

[@kaibilrodriguez2420]

what is the size of the suspension for the Zero X10. I really want to install this suspension on my Zero X10.

[@FalconpevSg]

135 for front and 165 for rear

[@amd4lyfe]

Why should the front have a shorter length? Just need clarification before i purchase

[@FalconpevSg]

@@amd4lyfe it’s the geometry of the scooter and also the fact that more weight is on the rear

[@sebastianeyeless3835]

@@FalconpevSg Hello how are u? i have a zero 10x and I can't find a 135mm shock for sale, only 125mm... what is your recommendation in this situation? Can I use this 125 shock? Or should I keep looking and buy 135mm?

[@FalconpevSg]

@@sebastianeyeless3835 we have the 135mm

[@Nealpat]

Hi what is the difference between Air shocks and Air A5 suspension?

[@FalconpevSg]

A5 suspensions are lower quality and cheaper and tend to break easily.

[@Nealpat]

@@FalconpevSg Oh Really thanks bro

[@mtzssc1710]

do you have front air shock for 10x ?

[@FalconpevSg]

Front air shock is not recommended as the front is only 135mm so travel distance is too short bottom out easily so we will recommend the hydraulic shock for the front

[@erwinjosue5437]

Do you guys have air shocks for the zero8X?

[@FalconpevSg]

The front you can use our hydraulic coils and the rear you can use the dnm 36RC

[@BadmanahBadman]

Would this air shock be possible for the ultron x3 60v thank you🎉

[@paradisejuggler]

just not allowed in Singapore :-( are you going to change that?

[@FalconpevSg]

thats not up to us to decide...

[@paradisejuggler]

@@FalconpevSg you could deliver a version that is Singapore compliant for example, I am aware you can't change the law but provide compliant products, I am sure people here would love it that you operate out of Singapore anyway.

[@chenbotao2410]

How many psi should I pump?

[@xorbe2]

150 main, 75 negative. You need "shock air pump" with special release. Impossible with regular tire pump, all air escapes on disconnect.

[@alessandrocarneiro727]

Please somebody, have zero 10x a hydraulic suspension? Or just spring coil?

[@FalconpevSg]

alessandro carneiro the stock ones are just spring.

[@vikktourios]

Could i install 60v battery to my original 52 18 AH 10x and get more power and range?

[@FalconpevSg]

Viktor Einarsson no that’s not possible. It will burn out the controller

[@vikktourios]

@@FalconpevSg ah ok just make sure what about 52v 24AH? I live in iceland and the only 10x versions here are the 18AH the range is the most important.

[@FalconpevSg]

Viktor Einarsson you need to install an extra battery pack for the range

[@vikktourios]

@@FalconpevSg ok thanks bro the zero scooters are the best! 10x is somethig else love it😎

[@TheRival]

@@vikktourios Here in croatia Citycoco made a custom version similar to the Zero 10x but waaay better and with addons that you would need to pay at least 200-300 dollars for my personal favorite is the signal lights. Anyways google Pulse 10 pro citycoco and see for yourself. goes faster, better range and costs less than the Zero 10x. was planing on buying a 10x but with the ammount of upgrades i would need to pay I can get all of that right on the scooter as srock stuff for a lesser price than the 10x.

[@milordas]

anyone have practice installing Rock Shox 350psi suspension? as i see 250psi is not enough for bigger riders

[@FalconpevSg]

Air shocks are not suitable at all for big riders. Go hydraulic dnm dv22

[@waltera1911]

Ok nice back, what do with the front? what size did we need?

[@FalconpevSg]

no solution for the front yet.

[@waltera1911]

@@FalconpevSg do you know the size?

[@ChristianLepah]

For fron i use EXA A5 RE 125mm!

[@waltera1911]

Christian Lepah is this not to low? Can you make photo from, thanks.

[@ChristianLepah]

Andreas Walter give me your mail!

[@dozororg417]

Guys thanks for making these videos!There are several serious problems with regard to the safety of the scooter.1) The location of the rear footrest and the fact that it is sharp, if a person standing next to the scooter accidentally sharply presses the trigger, it will cut the ankle.I had a different situation in 1 Day of my use.After the battery is empty I just started to push like a conventional scooter and touched this sensitive bandwagon leg ,the result of the tendon rupture and 3 months on crutches,still healing.Upgrade this item please.2) the Front shock absorber is very weak for such a weight, and not on compression but on the contrary on pulling out, I fell apart right at the exit from the curb, Blocked the wheel and I flew over the steering wheel,everything went bruised.Please pick the new dampers for the front suspension urgent! Tried EXA RR1,it does not pump up normally during the installation.

[@moahunta9055]

The stock position of the front suspension is wound out quite a lot and is prone to bottoming out, you can adjust the preloading on it by turning the threaded collar above the coil - HOWEVER! in doing this make sure that your cableing is not impacted as you can easily sever the cables if you don't ensure they are clear and have enough slack. The models Falcon PEV advise to use are either the cheaper DNM AO-42AR: www.ebay.com/itm/DNM-AO-42AR-Bike-Air-Rear-Shock-165x38mm-XC-Trail-AM-2-system/252115744164?hash=item3ab344f5a4:g:4gcAAOSw4CFYpr40 (think that is the right one) Or the top of the line AOY-36RC: www.ebay.com/itm/123913453028 I can't see too much of a price difference there and it might pay to get from an offical source. Make sure to check your mount sizes too, to ensure it all fits snuggly. In regards to the "Rear footrest", do you mean the kickstand(the bit you flip down so the scooter will stand on it's own)? I too would like to see a replacement option for these as now that I've preloaded my suspension, mine is too short and my scooter leans over a lot when resting on it. I also understand what you mean by it possibly being quite sharp - picture here of one: www.blacksheeptrading.co.nz/product/sonic-2000-zero-10x-electric-scooter-stand/ This design could be modified in future iterations to be more streamlined when not supporting the scooter. I see a similar issue with the new heavy duty clamp for the front stem - Very square edges, and located on the front. If you accidently hit someone, I expect it would easily tear a hole in them. Apart from these and one cable issue, I'm loving mine.

[@KindredSupreme]

lol

[@varsityrecords4you]

Has anyone installed the air shocks on front and back suspension?

[@Maltmeister1]

I have and don't do it,stick with the original coil shocks..air shocks don't give you the same ride comfort as the original.

[@varsityrecords4you]

Actually what we eventually did is get air shocks but used original coil, works really well. Yeah the coils on other models way too soft

[@ryanlowery9081]

You can use EXA 291R for both front and back. They make 125,150,165. They are an adjustable Coil/Hydraulic. You can choose the (LB) of the spring and ajust the return of the Hydraulic. Its a better solution IMO. Pure air shocks will need to be ajusted and refilled constantly with use.

[@ChristianLepah]

For the front is any solution at the moment?

[@FalconpevSg]

yes there is, you can go with a spring/hydraulic 135mm suspension.

[@ChristianLepah]

@@FalconpevSg I'm struggling for two months to find a 135 mm hydraulic spring and I can't find, do you have any model to recommend me?

[@FalconpevSg]

@@ChristianLepah 135mm is almost impossible to find good ones.

[@ChristianLepah]

@@FalconpevSg If this is the case, do they remain with the factory one?

[@ChristianLepah]

The one from the factory returns very quickly and aggressively back

[@mr0m30]

What size (165/190/200 mm)?

[@moorebtyt]

IMO they look to be 165mm

[@FalconpevSg]

It’s 165mm

[@mr0m30]

Thanks

[@serious-rc933]

@@FalconpevSg and front ?

[@kingzakid]

@@FalconpevSg And front ?

[@weldchip]

Nice video but! Please go and get a torque wrench it’s painful watching you over tighten everything. Don’t forget to move the motor wire back under the clips too.

[@FalconpevSg]

thank you for the kind advice.

[@jimpap13]

Lol its only a scooter dude not a boeing aircraft, if you need a torque wrench you shouldnt be doing ur own maintenance as ur not competant!

[@jimpap13]

@@41PH4B3TS0UP and your point is?

[@Zero-wt7xf]

I am saving for one of these, the mods are gonna cost me a fortune lol

[@OregonCrow]

Only in your dreams.

[@Zero-wt7xf]

@@OregonCrow I have one now and have put 3000km’s on it. So I don’t really get your comment.

[@horrorman9]

Can those air shocks be used on the 8X as well?

[@FalconpevSg]

JACK FROST maybe you need a shorter one like 150mm

[@horrorman9]

@@FalconpevSg If you guys get a chance, can you install some air shocks on a zero 8x, on your next video, and tell us which size will work. Thanks I watch all your video, and I own a zero 8X.

[@FalconpevSg]

Thank you for your support. Yes we will do one for 8X soo

[@e-scooterskz655]

@@FalconpevSg please do 🙏

[@ptescreen18]

Falcon PEV I tried 150mm on front , exa a5 rr1 , it’s terrible, rear feels ok ish

[@srrtbb]

Now, do the same for zero 9 rear shocks. The stock shocks are horrible after 250 miles.

[@xorbe2]

I installed 165mm DNM AOY-36RC, now my 10X went from too bouncy to too soft, lol. Needs spring + damper ...

[@fujio001]

Can the air pressure in the shock be increased? The shock has a schrader valve which is used to put more air in. You will need a special shock pump.

[@slickrick411]

Looks like a lot of banging going on

[@FalconpevSg]

slickrick411 just means everything is a tight fit

[@shoky11TV]

Much easier if you leave the rear wheel off until complete.

[@leemarcelino7357]

Wish they have these for my zero9 and rest of the variants. 😢🙏🙏🙏

[@Nosci1020]

no need to losen up the other side you have two hammers use them in both side :D

[@varsityrecords4you]

The included stock-standard shocks are dodgy, mine lasted 2 weeks before it cracked!!

[@moahunta9055]

What were you doing to those poor things? I jump speed bumps and off curbs and never had any issues - 300km later and still going strong. - They do get dirty with the current design and I need to clean and grease them on the regular, especially when using offroad.

[@varsityrecords4you]

Yes was having a bit of a rant. But yeah, my friend has the identical scooter and his front failed a week later too, but his front snapped and he face planted lol. I’d still check them frequently as my jumping was very simple, nothing major. But since then replaced the shocks with bike shocks and haven’t had an issue. The shocks and locking clamps are dodge and common issues apparently, but once both those replaced with better gear the 10X is a machine!!!

[@kindzius]

Mine cracked after 400km

[@david-yy2gc]

vaya ñapas de mecanico, al final al apretar seguro que va forzado el basculante porque no se ve que haya encajado bien

[@orange42]

Here is the manual for 36RC. 80psi is max in negative chamber, not 260. Really suggest updating video. www.dnmshock.com/upload_files/products/19/aoy-36rc.pdf

[@escooterlife]

These air shocks should be fitted as standard,only $60... manufacturers would get them even cheaper

[@FalconpevSg]

Depends on which model you use. $60 is for the lower end air shocks. $98-150 for the higher end.

[@escooterlife]

Falcon PEV I come from a MTB background so paying $$$ fox shox is fine

[@kevinreeves3161]

Bolts Got to be torque

[@kevinreeves3161]

You dont have to beat it put a little grease on it

[@jasperirving007]

I think the guy strangles the nuts, the solutions are not all brute force bad advice and with regard to the damping, I think it's very soft and the scooter touches the ground which is bad

[@stoyanzachariev]

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[@zeroin8157]

I like how they use the right tools for the job. 🤪🤣

[@milordas]

its a bad, v. bad idea change shock without removing wheel, you have risk to broke axle washer near bearing

[@FalconpevSg]

Thanks for that perspective

[@olif8459]

Я бы не доверил этому мастеру свой самокат. Оси амортизаторов не смазал. И вообще, работает плохо.

[@kevinreeves3161]

And dont Don't tighten all your bolts down untill ⁶you get everything on there then you can snug Em up

[@sungodspirit1502]

when nothing you replace fits.... just beat it back in place, that's all!

[@FalconpevSg]

SUNGOD SPIRIT you have a better idea?

[@beastrcrc3318]

Too lazy to unscrew the wheel completely ???

[@FalconpevSg]

BeastRC rc yes but not lazy enough to give you a almost full video on how to do it.

[@anthonynolan2024]

Yeah but definitely too lazy to reply to any 11x questions regarding suspension! What's the deal do yous not sell them or something or just not like 11x owners!

[@beastrcrc3318]

@@anthonynolan2024 I did not understand you. What does 11x have to do with it?) The person from the video tries to drive a lever, sharing a wheel.

[@anthonynolan2024]

It was in relation to the comment you made about him been lazy. I was just saying I agree as lots of people have asked questions about this air shock for the 11x and he has not replied to 1 comment as far as I can see. Thats all my friend.

[@paultitcomb4724]

Guys don't follow Sungod! Take Ash's more professional advice... Beating shit into place never worked for me! 🤔

[@oskosknextime6883]

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