Scrum Ensues After Zach Benson Scores While Scott Wedgewood Was Down In Pain

[@MrMRMONKEY232]

The ref standing on the back of the net and staring at the goalie while he's on the ground is damning

[@Europinionsuxabig1]

They don't have to stop play for an injury in hockey, unless the player is in imminent danger.

[@theseifexperience6863]

Not really

[@Riv3r69]

all he could really do was stay out of the way and call the goal, even if he was tempted to to blow the play dead from looking at Wedgewood down.

[@y2gayishere815]

He was just trying to get out of harm's way and grab onto the net not his whistle! The moment he looks down Wedgewood starts rolling to the other side of the net leaving it open. If he was immobilized he would of stopped it 😂

[@CanadaBoyRocks66]

That's how u know reffs are fixing games

[@jonogunn]

The Avs player giving the goalie a stick tap afterwards LOL bro that’s his injured leg!

[@Cobra85291]

I noticed that too definitely not helping things

[@tylerbach3519]

Mikko Rantanen

[@danielsavitz5774]

Wedgewood likely didn’t even feel it. Right on the front surface of the pad.

[@UnpopularName]

still funny as heck ​@@danielsavitz5774

[@bibowski]

Hahah I'm not the only one who noticed then.

[@ShawnBlaque]

The way he celebrates afterwards like "hell ya if I get a few more of these maybe I'll get traded at the deadline" lmao!

[@kidnamedfinger6323]

Stay mad haha

[@cyrodiil4353]

@@kidnamedfinger6323 I would say “stay losing” but it seems like the city of Buffalo does that just fine without even trying.

[@patrickgoulet8170]

@@cyrodiil4353 if you trade for anymore versions of wood players, they should just change the team name to the block heads

[@jaxastro3072]

@@cyrodiil4353 longest playoff drought in history from any professional North American sport. The Saber's greatest ever contribution to the NHL is drafting good players for other teams to win cups with xD

[@fleatactical7390]

Can you blame him? LOL

[@ColinGrym]

I have no skin in this game, but IMO play should be blown dead as soon as it's clear a player is badly injured. I know it's just an opinion. As the announcers point out it's an unusual situation but the goalie was CLEARLY rolling around in pain and unable to offer any defense for about 4 seconds before the goal. Edit: To those saying there was no danger - a knee injury is -potentially career-ending- (turns out more likely to be) 10-12 months of surgery/PT and can easily be made worse by contact. Also there is no way a ref can assess that immediately and they should err on keeping the players safe. Rules may say possession etc., but refs will blow a play dead because a player isn't getting up all the time, even when it's way behind the play. And they should have here. To those saying "Oh, so you want goalies to fake injury to stop scoring opportunities?" - it wasn't a scoring opportunity. The puck was behind the net, it was headed to the corner with no one within 10 feet of it, and it was several seconds before there was a shot that would have been stopped 99% of the time by an NHL goalie. There are penalties for diving. You folks need to stop acting like this clear injury/situation has any relation to a goalie faking because there's a shot being loaded or there are guys in the crease etc.

[@AngusArtEntertainment]

No no, you're absolutely right! If it looks serious, CALL THE PLAY DEAD.

[@AddictedToPain-x1i]

The problem comes in when that injury was caused by an avalanche player themselves pushing the Buffalo player into their own goalie. That shouldn't be blown dead as a whistle for the avalanche since it was caused by the avalanche.. So I know it's tough to see, but it's a difficult situation.. And I don't think you are taking into account the fact that it was the avalanche player's fault to begin with. Hardly seems fitting to rob Buffalo of a goal because of a stupid play by an avalanche player 🤷‍♂️

[@edschramm6757]

fairly doctrinal, unfortunately. Ben Bishop had a similar instance in i think it was actually the 2020 playoff bubble where a shot hit him in the collarbone, and it caused him to drop and writhe, but the play was allowed to continue in that case for like 10 seconds if memory serves. when there is a severe injury, yea it's immediately blown down, but pain and life-threatening injury are not the same thing. when it's just pain, the refs let it go until the defending team gets control of the puck. which never happened here.

[@bertoneill2488]

So Sabres lose all of there momentum cause a Avs player hit a Sabres player into him? Seems logical.

[@nitro2199]

That would just incentive embellishing

[@floriankonig2061]

I am a Boston fan so I have no skin is this game. But for me the question is less if this is a good goal or not. In my personal opinion it’s simply a major example of bad sportsmanship to score on a goalie writhing in pain and then celebrate the goal like nothing happened. If Benson (by all accounts legitimately) scored and then immediately checked up on Wedgewood, this thing would be a whole different story and I wouldn’t give a hoot about the scoreboard. I sincerely hope that Wedgewood recovers quickly and is back in the crease as soon as possible. Oh, and for the record: If the Bruins scored like that, I would criticise their behaviour the same way I do here.

[@Ziggy_Moonglow]

BINGO! We finally have a winner in the comments section!! Any decent human being will see the opponent injured and immediately give the puck over to get a whistle.

[@robadams1645]

​@@Ziggy_Moonglowthat's not what he said at all. It's not the scoring that's an issue. It's the classless celebration afterwards. It's literally his job to take advantage of the situation. The play is live and he has a chance to score. He has to score. Just don't celebrate after.

[@rd9793]

Agreed.

[@Canuck96Myster]

You do realize how fast the game is right? I don’t think he even noticed the goalie was injured. He doesn’t have a top view like us, he also doesn’t have it in slow motion like us

[@Jamusse]

Crybabies

[@kingoftrolls19]

Whats crazy is refs blew whistle for dahlin but not the avs goalie.

[@NooBeRGoD]

Were the Avs in a scoring position during the Dahlin "injury"?

[@kingoftrolls19]

@NooBeRGoD puck was in corner, Sabres wasn't in a a scoring position.

[@NooBeRGoD]

​@@kingoftrolls19 Were the AVALANCHE in a scoring position? I capitalized it this time so you wouldn't confuse BUFFALO with AVALANCHE again.

[@Jonathan-xt6jw]

@@NooBeRGoD That's his point. Neither team was in a scoring position at the time of the injury. So why did they blow it dead for Dahlin and not Wedgewood?

[@NooBeRGoD]

@@Jonathan-xt6jw Buffalo was in a puck battle and the puck was 10 feet away from the net. thats a scoring opportunity, you dunce.

[@calebm6818]

Somebody keeps repeating "the goalie was not in any immanent danger, so no whistle should be blown". Completely false. If he sustained a knee injury (which is likely given these replays and his writhing around in pain), getting hit again will make that injury much, much worse. The ref is looking directly at Wedgewood who is curled up in the net. No excuse to not blow the whistle when there is no immediate scoring opportunity Edit: stop saying “wHaT dO yOu mEaN nO sCoRiNg oPpOrtuNitY, tHeY sCorE riGhT aFtEr????” The puck is in the corner, no team has possession

[@NooBeRGoD]

Knee injuries aren't risking lives you buffoon. "no immediate scoring opportunity" the puck was 10 feet from the net, which is now wide open cause Avs didn't get control of the puck. Clown

[@ronpeacock9939]

Immanent danger is Mask came off leaving the face exposed or severe bleeding (like cut by a skate... See Clint Milarchuk play).. this was neither... his gear was still on.. play on til the defense gets possession.

[@calebm6818]

@ is there an official NHL definition of “immanent danger” that you’re referring to that only includes those things? Because if not, one can think of many things that make the goalie who is cluelessly rolling around in immanent danger

[@ronpeacock9939]

@@calebm6818 I don't have the rulebook/casebook that NHL officials use... just noting what I've seen in the past. Except for the mask.. they treat any player on the defense the same way... how many times does the play go on when a player blocks a shot and goes down on the ice? If they block it with their face... play stops (and often players start trying to pick up teeth)... but nailed in the ankle that could be broken... play on until your team gets possession.... they don't really treat the netminder any different... a smart goalie will knock the net off when it happens if they can (though I'm not sure if Wedgewood had the ability the way he went down.). Also the thing that confuses is if benson went in on his own power, often they'll blow it because it's goaltender INT and he may get 2mins... again... many variables.

[@edschramm6757]

unless someone falls on that knee again, it's not going to do anything through all that padding. this is far from the first time a goalie has been hurt during a play and it continued (i know that Ben Bishop had that happen a couple times, one of which was a shot hit him in the collarbone, where there is much lighter padding and play continued. if memory serves that was in the playoffs too), fairly doctrinal no-call. now, if the avalanche had gotten control of the puck, then absolutely, blow it dead, but in the 3/4 seconds this took place in, that didn't happen. and the contact itself i can't even really fault because kelly caused bensen to fall into Wedgewood. it was potentially a bit of a trip, or at minimum interference, and it was unfortunate that bensen was trying to turn hard in the process, and kelly caused him to blow a tire. i'm not in any way trying to say kelly should have gotten a penalty here, it was a position battle, but it seemed like bensen was trying to avoid it, and got shoved while turning, which lifted his back foot, causing the spin-out.

[@electropneumatic]

A portion of rule 8.1: "When a player is injured so that he cannot continue play or go to his bench, the play shall not be stopped until the injured player’s team has secured control of the puck. If the player’s team is in control of the puck at the time of injury, play shall be stopped immediately unless his team is in a scoring position. In the case where it is obvious that a player has sustained a serious injury, the Referee and/or Linesman may stop the play immediately. When play has been stopped by the Referee or Linesman due to an injured player, or whenever an injured player is attended to on the ice by the Trainer or medical personnel, such player must be substituted for immediately. This injured player cannot return to the ice until play has resumed." See also Colton Parayko's slap shot from the 2019 playoffs that folded Ben Bishop.

[@williamhinchcliff6290]

It's a shame the rational responses to videos get buried in the comments section instead of being at the top. Good job anyway.

[@ianhogaboam2322]

So why did they stop the game when dahlin went down and avs have possession? Inconsistent BS

[@shardhoney]

@@ianhogaboam2322 cry (not a fan of either team)

[@ianhogaboam2322]

@@shardhoney such a strong response 😂😂😂

[@y2gayishere815]

​@@ianhogaboam2322why did dahling go down?

[@carterpochynok4874]

I'm a redwings fan. I hate the avalanche. Even I think this goal shouldn't count. Seeing the ref sitting there and just watching Wedgewood writhe in pain while he literally just sits and waits for a goal is low-key disgusting.

[@goontender_lowercase.]

Same. hope wedgewoods ok

[@UtahHockeyFan9]

As a Utah fan, I also hate the Avs but completely agree with you. When the goalie is clearly down injured and unable to protect his net, the play should be called DEAD. Avs got screwed here.

[@Ziggy_Moonglow]

You'd just LOVE for an Avs player to pretend to be injured to get a whistle to stop a Wings rush? You're no wings fan... LOL Sorry, but if you honestly believe that players wouldn't pretend to be injured every time the opposing team got the puck, you do not understand human beings...

[@fleatactical7390]

@@UtahHockeyFan9 Avs got screwed by Toronto on this one, not by the refs.

[@briandelaroy1670]

I am an Avs fan, not big on Redwings but the sentiment is the same it’s not the goal that upsets fans or our coach. It’s the Ref standing on the lower goal net bar looking at Wedgewood in the fetal position not moving, with no injury whistle to stop play. Which was done earlier on in the game for Buffalo!

[@NegativePressure]

I haven't watched the full game yet. I'm going to save that for a friend. However! That last 20 minutes or hockey was some of the best I've ever seen. 👏👏👏

[@Charles-vl8xm]

Happened to the Stars in the 19 playoffs vs STL. Bishop took a slapper off the collar bone and was down and out, Blues score while he is rolling around in pain. As a Blues fan I always felt that goal was kinda cheap.

[@antonyzmolek1234]

Was thinking exact same thing

[@zachgregory1289]

Same scenario I thought about.

[@DanielMartinez45588]

It was smart

[@zachgregory1289]

@@DanielMartinez45588 its clearly a rule so I have no issues with it.

[@TheFusionmix]

Man I hope Wedge is ok. I remember a couple years back he was out a month because his back seized up on a pretty innocuous-looking bit of contact, and he didn't look right even when he came back. He's such a good dude I'll root for him wherever he's at. Glad the Avs came back for him even if it means the Stars stay in wc1 lol.

[@JRWooly]

Get well soon Wedgewall… hope it is not too serious. We miss you in Dallas. -Stars Fan.

[@IcedTee89]

He broke up with you. He's ours now. You need to move on. -Avs Fan.

[@lewislambert4590]

@@IcedTee89 Stuff it. He just wished him well. And he didn't leave the Stars for the Avs.

[@angelogunanayagam5062]

That nfl level block to prevent your teammate from getting sucker punched while he was celebrating his goal! 😆

[@thespaceelefant2441]

i guess expecting buffalo to have some class is like expecting to win the lottery. next to zero chance of it happening 😆

[@that1pianist]

Scoring the goal is fine, thats just the game. But celebrate after scoring on an injured goalie and you best expect you're gonna get leveled

[@JamesOttley]

He didn't realize the goalie was injured at the time of celebrating

[@demandrecords]

really? even behind the net you can see him lying around? and then he looks around the corner and looks straight at him and does a celly. I can’t see how a professional icehockey player wants to score like that. If you have some self worth you stop at that point and give the puck to the referee.

[@JarradBruessel32]

For the idiots saying they shouldn't have blown the play dead, I have been in wedgewoods position, I tore my acl after being crashed into by 3 players. Play continued, I couldn't stand, got ran into again which caused a bigger tear. The entire arena could hear my screaming in pain, the refs continued play until I covered the puck. A stick was thrown at the refs for continuing play. Until you are in that position, don't say no player was in danger ever again!

[@UtahHockeyFan9]

Completely agree Jarrad. As a Utah fan who hates the Avs, even I agree the play SHOULD have been called dead. Completely unacceptable.

[@thatsright1648]

Agreed 👍. And well said too.

[@patrickgoulet8170]

Yea and they should have air bags on their back for when they get hit from behind and boxing gloves if they're gonna fight. Just wait until the playoffs when a team has had pressure for like 3-4 mins and the goalie magically gets a cramp and goes down so they gotta blow the whistle but he's fine after the line change.

[@bassmandan9484]

The Panthers’ goalie was in that position last night as well and lost the game because of it.

[@jeffmcgovern5674]

Oh well. Toughen up buttercup!

[@myklaaron7879]

Theyve never seen it ? It happened to Bishop and Dallas in a playoff game 🤷‍♂️.

[@reallyfrodo]

This makes no sense, if the goalie is down and there's no imminent scoring opportunity, it's just an open net until they score. You could just skate around until you get a clear shot and take it. I can't believe they didnt blow this dead when the puck was in the corner. It's nearly a guaranteed goal if you just let it go.

[@bertoneill2488]

Sabres still had poession and Benson was forced into Wedgewood.

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

​@@bertoneill2488It doesn't matter. He was injured, and play should be stopped immediately.

[@tommloye4626]

@@lelouchvibritannia4028exactly. Play is stopped all the time for injured players that are in the way of play.

[@MDK2_Radio]

@@bertoneill2488the injury is what matters, not whether the hurt player was charged or not.

[@electropneumatic]

@@lelouchvibritannia4028 It does matter. The rule is that the Avs would have to touch the puck for it to be blown dead. Look at the 2019 playoffs when Colton Parayko blasted a 100mph slapper to Ben Bishops collarbone. Rule 8.1 in the NHL rule book.

[@bobkuboske6494]

Honestly play should have been stopped, but maybe that will teach you not to knock your opponent into your own goalie.

[@raw_si_siht]

100% His own boy did that.

[@Nathan-cf1ef]

How is that goal allowed lol especially considering the awful goalie interference calls this year

[@matthewsimonds3346]

It wasn’t goaltender interference he got pushed in. But the play should have blown dead when he got hurt

[@NooBeRGoD]

play is whistled dead if a player is in imminent danger at discretion of the ref from the immediate play. There was no danger to Wedgewood.

[@Nathanielhiggerson66]

avs won anyway lol

[@soulknife20]

​@NooBeRGoD Yeah. The ref for the game doesn't like the Avs for some reason. Any other team, this goal wouldn't have counted. Avs won anyway

[@V0rtre]

@@soulknife20the ref made the right call here stop making excuses, the avs won anyways

[@majoraswrath240]

Refs did everything they could to help Buffalo win. Glad they couldn't do it. Those clowns need to be fired. NHL officiating is a joke

[@samuelhenderson634]

It's always been like that for the Avs. Glad the Avs were able to beat the refs. They couldn't do it in the playoffs against Dallas last year

[@lachlanchester8142]

@samuelhenderson634what about when they won the cup?

[@samuelhenderson634]

@lachlanchester8142 that was before the refs started to hurt the Avs

[@hafeezkhaliq7776]

Obviously you don't know officiating when a goalie gets hurt the team has to touch the park for the whistle to be blown

[@hafeezkhaliq7776]

​@samuelhenderson634 If the referees are that much of a joke you don't have to watch nobody's holding you hostage

[@marshall3293]

Anyone else notice the stay puck flying across the screen at 1:25? What the heck was that?!?! lol

[@mr.christopher79]

good eye

[@UnpopularName]

Lol

[@rthomp03]

That's not a puck. It's something (maybe a hat?) thrown from the stands that passes in front of the camera. You can see it in the wide view at 0:14, lower right part of the screen.

[@Kippers_82]

I was at that game and in the section right there; a guy was going down the isle throwing pucks to fans. I know because I didn't see the goal while yelling to get a puck. anyways one of the he threw must have flew into the shot.

[@metalheadcol]

Yeah I saw that and wondered what it was lol

[@logankerr8090]

Colorado guy pushed him into the goalie by looks of it, ref should've stopped the play though

[@EricEchvz84]

The fist pump was not necessary

[@andrewzy]

He scored a goal lighten up francis

[@Rockmonanov]

Honestly I kind of loved it

[@bertoneill2488]

He scored he is allowed to. Maybe Kelly shouldn't push people into his own tendy.

[@tohsakamine]

@@honeydropsoftea dude clearly had no idea. you avs fans are delusional af

[@titusmccarthy]

@@andrewzy This is why no one likes Buffalo fans.

[@MickBurkhardt]

Same thing happened to Ben Bishop during the 2019 playoffs against the St. Louis Blues in Dallas. Bishop was clearly in pain for approximately five seconds before a goal was scored while he was down on the ice. The reason they don't blow the play dead is because, (1) the injured player's team needs to at least touch the puck, similar to a delay of penalty and (2) the puck was near the area of play, which just happened to be near the Avs net for a scoring chance.

[@eliassimeon9819]

The Refs can always blow the play dead.

[@MickBurkhardt]

@@eliassimeon9819 Obviously, but refs can't blow plays dead without just cause. If such actions are repeated, then those refs will find themselves out of work quickly.

[@polygon-viewer]

"I've never seen a goalie hurt and the other team able to score without the play being called dead." Go look up the 2019 Stanley Cup Playoffs. Colton Parayko blasted a shot off of the Dallas goaltender's (Ben Bishop) collarbone, he went down in agony, The Blues kept possession of the puck and scored on the play.

[@timehrler2686]

I was there! Saw the whole thing unfold right below me.

[@JD23_]

I get playing to the whistle but the celly is crazy LMAO

[@jmwall24]

yeah I think if he hadn't done that Girard wouldn't have gotten quite as mad lol

[@andrewzy]

Ite a Reg fist pump it aint like he did the Flying Eagle like kuznetsov

[@grezno]

I think a pretty fair way to solve this issue (and future issues) is to have refs immediately stop the play if they see the goalie is clearly injured (to the point where he can’t stop the puck). In order to deal with any potential “fake injury to stop scoring opportunity” situations however, the goalie must then be replaced for the duration of the game even if he’s ok to continue.

[@philipgwyn8091]

You are trading one problem for another, because "clearly injured" is ridiculously easy to fake.

[@lazypeon100]

​@@philipgwyn8091Which is why they suggested the goalie must be replaced even if they turn out to be okay. It's to discourage the exact kind of behavior you're worried about.

[@meganjoelyn2207]

Ok, so not Benson's fault. He got shoved. But how was this allowed? You have any player in the goal down and play isn't stopped? Let alone the goalie. That's just bad refing!

[@daved1535]

This happened in the 2019 playoffs. When the Blues scored on the Stars after Bishop got hurt. I was pissed when it happened, but the rule was the Stars had to touch the puck, and they didn't, so the play continued

[@robertjonez5]

At the WORST, it should be considered incidental goalie interference and goal waved off.

[@Mike14G]

Clifton saved Benson from getting sucker punched from behind after his goal.

[@Subihabsfan]

This and the Tkachuk play today. 2 bizarre moments. Both goals. Wow.

[@Sil3ntB87]

I hate both of these teams, but that Ref is a clown and needs to lose his job.

[@NooBeRGoD]

For what? doing his job? Avs never gained possession. Play was still live. Wedgewood also wasn't bleeding out, unconscious nor did his helmet come off. No imminent danger to Wedgewood, play is still live.

[@timdowney6721]

@@NooBeRGoD Rote repeating of nonsense doesn't change the fact that it's nonsense.

[@NooBeRGoD]

@@timdowney6721 It's just "nonsense" when you're too dumb to understand the rules.

[@letzrock1675]

Avs player shoved a Sabers player into the goalie…goal is good

[@zacharygoldenberg8919]

@@NooBeRGoD Buddy you're an idiot. It's different if its a goalie. If a goalie gets injured play stops immediately. Especially in a scoring opportunity like that. Your argument about him bleeding is stupid. That's like your parents telling you to go to school when you have a high fever because you haven't fainted, bled out, our threw up. You are still unwell. Wedgwood is defenseless writhing around in pain. Possession doesn't matter because if a player is hurt and they are in a potential lane they are in danger especially if they are a tendy. They are practically in the net. It should not have been a penalty or called back to to interference it should have been called back for a player injury in an imminent scoring lane. What if Wedgwood takes a shot from the point at 100 mph to the knee or head in that position. That is potentially career ending. It's about safety and common sense. Wedgwood was in danger as he was IN THE NET HES THE GOALIE. Don't be stupid and have common sense. The play was blown dead because Dahlin looked hurt early in the game even though Buffalo had no possession and he was not in any true harm. It should be called the same way. Safety. Not "Imminent scoring" purposefully ambiguous to help one team BS.

[@lilgustav5065]

Thats in the top 3 worst calls of all time for sure.

[@Gutangla]

Lol

[@SylviusTheMad]

Where was the error? No infraction took place, and no player was in danger.

[@metroidplayer2]

​@@SylviusTheMad Play should've been whistled dead long before the puck got in the net, player injury. They stop play instantly of someone is hit in the face with a puck

[@TheGreatBoomy25]

Well you’re telling that to the team with #1 on that list going against them from a Stanley cup final game…

[@Undefeatedsports3]

@@metroidplayer2 connor mcdavid was hurt the other night and they didn't blow it down

[@Insider_]

My neutral opinion, any time there is an injury to the goalkeeper, you have to stop the game, it's not a field player, the team is left with an empty goal. It was pretty cynical of Benson to celebrate a goal like that. Health to Wedgwood.

[@MintyBlueNobody]

i’m so glad we won this game anyway we needed redemption after such a garbage call

[@Nathanielhiggerson66]

ikr and the by inches offsides

[@andrewzy]

​@@Nathanielhiggerson66offside is offside homie

[@jerryking6021]

You can celebrate beating to worst team in the NHL. Congrats. Redemption against the lowly Sabres sounds about right.

[@sportsfan1717]

@@jerryking6021 Worst team in the NHL looks like the Blackhawks to me but I'm sure your arbitrary measures are more accurate than the actual standings.

[@Nathanielhiggerson66]

@@jerryking6021 ah yes, exaggerating how bad the Sabres are to take away from the Avs win. must be an Oiler fan- or is it the jets? who cares

[@wesbrown78]

Ya that should not have counted Wedgwood wasn’t just out of position she was curled up in a ball in the net and hadn’t moved for sometime before the whistle play should have been called dead in my opinion

[@Rick-j2t]

Now thats obviously not the Buffalo player's fault ... but wtf refs? Wtf NHL?in what world do you let this play continue and this goal happen?

[@NooBeRGoD]

Wedgewood wasn't in danger of being injured further. Refs don't need to stop the play for this type of injury.

[@chef2042]

@@NooBeRGoDyou’re sounding like a salty Buffalo fan buddy.

[@NooBeRGoD]

@@chef2042 Oiler fan, I just know the rules of the game unlike 70% of the potatos commenting

[@chef2042]

@ that actually explains it better. Oilers fans are known to be some of the dumbest in the league.

[@NooBeRGoD]

@@chef2042 At least we know the rules and aren't crying about it on youtube lmfao keep crying kid

[@peterdemint7195]

reffing this year has been brutal

[@gavin7772]

I absolutely hate when players check the offense into their goalie, one of the worst plays in hockey

[@tbd3058]

He didn’t though. Nobody here did anything on purpose that caused this

[@ToaastyKoyote]

@@tbd3058 Benson got knocked on his butt. What are you saying no one did anything? Stop being ignorant.

[@scottg9855]

The announcers said they hadn't seen anything like this. Blues fan here, 2019 playoffs. Snapshot caught Ben Bishop in the collar bone, and he went down like he was shot. Blues pass it to the point and score. Goal counted. If the injured player isn't in immediate need of medical assistance, the play continues until the injured player's team controls the puck.

[@3Torts]

…good thing that didn’t happen on this play 🤡

[@dylanhoward4978]

@@ToaastyKoyote Benson skates into the crease on his own so he's already in the wrong, cuts a 180 and there's a defender there because of course there is and falls onto the goalie with a little incidental contact. Not crazy bad on Benson's part but much more his fault than Kelly's.

[@tbd3058]

It wasn’t the Sabres player’s fault but regardless when someone goes down obviously injured, especially the goaltender, you whistle play dead. There was not a lot of time in between though

[@tommloye4626]

Bendar is the most chill and relaxed coach in the league. When he loses his sht, you take it seriously. He was still hot after the comeback win during the presser. He knows the refs messed up. Period.

[@curtf5647]

If you think Bednar is the most relaxed you haven't watched Kris Knoblauch lol. Dude doesn't react to anything

[@RayzorFilms]

Officiating is getting worse every year. Player down you stop the play regardless of how it happened.

[@stuartfields9177]

In ANY situation be it player or goalie, if someone appears injured play should stop immediately. Secondary contact of any kind to an already injured player could be devastating. This situation was disgusting to watch. You can always call embellishment if it turns out that way.

[@NooBeRGoD]

Nope, cause then you can get a guy who goes down with "injury" 200 feet away from the play, and get a stoppage? LOL no thanks to that

[@Youngsta0]

@@NooBeRGoD There's alot of bot comments in here.

[@midehv]

Have you heard of my friend Neymar? He likes to roll around. A lot. To claim that a play should be stopped "if someone appears injured", you can see where that is heading right? Flop city, aka soccer. And to claim they can just call embellishment after the fact? No, they can't. That's called in real time. The "embellishment" you're referring to would be if it is determined well after the game has concluded and the result already final, that the injury was staged, perhaps some fines get levied, but the game result still stands. I'm not gonna take a stance on this particular play, I'm only going to point out that it is FAR more complex of a conversation than you are giving it.

[@Ziggy_Moonglow]

Idiots want to pretend nobody ever dives or fakes and injury because idiots are idiots.

[@GBrimstone]

​@@NooBeRGoDit's not the NBA and they have blown plays dead before when the opposing team has the puck due to injury..it's a discretion of the refs

[@MattyEvan]

Gotta love it when your teammate shoves another player into you, and everyone goes after that player that was shoved. 😂

[@bathtub_jim7652]

The ref needs to blow the whistle...period.

[@NooBeRGoD]

No they don't. Period. Read the rules.

[@YungKilogram]

​@@NooBeRGoDthe rules allowed them to blow the whistle there and they chose not to because they have poor discretion

[@ESO_PRIME]

Sounds like you need a blow!🤣

[@gdavies4]

This is can all be avoided if the refs do their job. Buffalo is focused on scoring on not on the wellbeing of the other players.

[@tzvk24]

​@NooBeRGoD If a player gets hit in the head, then they shouldn't blow it dead, which now they do but your logic they shouldn't blow it dead

[@11powell]

I'm not surprised here the ref is TJ Luxemore dude was a terrible in the ECHL no surprise different here.

[@TheGreatBoomy25]

It almost looks like Benson tires to turn sharply back to the corner and Kelly slew foots him, resulting in him rolling up on the goalies ankle. Just a weird play.

[@Silenceaverted]

Idk what’s more surprising, the whistle not being blown, or the Aves not running up the score on buffalo and winning in regulation

[@slayerat5280]

Unacceptable from the refs. player safety really needs to step in and say something about this.

[@BUBBLEGUPPIES-le1yr]

I would say no goal

[@jacobeberhardt1649]

Very Buffalo of you to celebrate so hard for a goal scored on an injured goalie

[@tohsakamine]

Very ignorant and disgusting of you to hate on an entire city because an nhl player celebrated after scoring a goal......... He clearly had no idea the goalie was hurt. He literally never looked at him after he fell. Absolutely disgusting for people like you to hate on a kid for doing nothing wrong.

[@beefcube2414]

@@tohsakamineDude chill. Talking about Buffalo the TEAM and Buffalo the CITY are two different things, and it's clear they're talking about the TEAM. This franchise is a joke, they continuously hurt other players during games during dangerous plays and seemingly never take responsibility. Maybe you should take a step back and consider that talking about a sports team from a city doesn't mean you're shitting all over that city.

[@tohsakamine]

@beefcube2414 When you make a generalization like that you are calling out an entire group of people based on that. It's not hard to say that "the buffalo sabres are a joke" it's one more word. When you jusy say buffalo you are calling out the city. Not a hard concept to grasp. Also one person's actions don't reflect on the entirety of the city or even the whole team that's wild. And I'm this situation Benson did nothing wrong. He got pushed into the goalie got up made a play on the puck. Played to the whistle like they are trained their whole lives/careers to. Then he celebrated like every player in the league does. And guess what!!! If you and everyone else actually paid any attention he clearly never looked at the goalie and had no idea what happened. And you csn tell by his reaction. He started to celebrate and heard the crowds reaction and that no one was celebrating and then turned around to see what happened and was nearly sucker punched.

[@Ziggy_Moonglow]

@@tohsakamine You are quite the whiney little b.

[@shinigamigaming2941]

​@@tohsakamine Sorry mate, you're stupid if you think Benson didn't know the goalie was down and writhing in pain. He definitely knew. He just didn't care. Hence the disrespectful celly on the empty net goal. Do you even watch hockey? No one celebrates an empty net goal, even for a Hatty. They get their hugs and make their rounds on the bench, and go back to playing hockey. They don't celebrate like they scored the game winning overtime goal in game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals.

[@musikismylife05]

St. Louis Blues fan here so I'll try to be impartial with my question about how the rule is written - at the time of the injury, my opinion is that neither team is in control of the puck. In the USA hockey rule book, it states "unless the opposing team is in possession of the puck", but I couldn't find the official wording in the 24-25 nhl rule book. Is it written that Av's would have to control the puck or is it written that the lack of control by Buffalo should've stopped the play. On a another note: I would also argue that he could've sustained further injury from play continuing - it would've been more obvious if it was a 90mph slapshot but not thought of for a wraparound but in a black and white rule book, the type of shot shouldn't matter to stopping for an injury.

[@lAmCanad1an]

Reffing already starting off strong for 2025.

[@JustThatGoalie]

Yup

[@josephfitzhenry245]

Look, other than hoping the goalie is okay, which I do, here's my personal take watching the play. Scoring player falls down, gets up and remains focused on the puck. He appears to not know that he hurt the goalie. He sees the puck come his way, makes sure he's not about to get checked into the boards, wraps around and scores, skating off in celebration. The entire sequence happened in approximately four seconds. He was not standing back watching and comprehending the events, just reacting as he has trained to perform. I don't think he was trying for a cheap shot or disrespecting the goalie. I think he was genuinely unaware of the injury. Again, about four seconds from start to finish.

[@grantbaker6430]

2:00 Number 96 smacks the goalie with his stick on the leg he just hurt! 😂

[@WutEvaGuy]

There was no whistle, if it were the buffalo goalie, Avs wouldve done the same thing Anyone who says different is lying to themselves

[@kevinfeil5337]

That's a goal!?!?

[@Ziggy_Moonglow]

Yes, when the entire puck crosses the entire goal line into the net, that is a goal.

[@smittygir4]

As an ex referee for ice hockey, if I saw a goalie down in the crease and the puck is behind the net, it’s an immediate dead play. It’s not progressing towards a goal scoring drive once it’s behind the red line. A goal drive is forward progression from center ice towards the goal, a drive is dead once a player is behind the net. Same rule as a penalty shot. Should have been called dead, but im not an NHL ref and they play by different rules entirely.

[@JamieTheBangles11Fan]

nine seconds is a long time to let a play continue, when there is an obvious injury on the ice.

[@NooBeRGoD]

"A serious injury is a physical trauma that requires immediate medical attention and can cause significant harm to a person's health." Knees don't fall under that category, so no reason to blow the play dead especially since it was the Avs defense who pushed Benson into Wedgewood.

[@bertoneill2488]

Get the puck then.

[@Youngsta0]

The avs didnt have possession of the puck

[@JustThatGoalie]

@@Youngsta0yes they didint but the refs in the first period blew the play dead when the avs player brutually checked a Sabre’s guy and they stopped, avs had the puck and the refs blew it dead….its an unwritten rule

[@tynao2029]

@@NooBeRGoD that's not the rule, or they would have stopped the game earlier. Can't just call it some ways and not others, or it isn't the rule

[@UncleNoble]

Comment threads like this one and the ones for the CAR-FLA game have convinced me that 95% of the people who watch hockey don’t know the rules around this sort of thing and are very vocal in proving it.

[@drexeldragon1723]

The ref stares are the goalie rolling around in pain and does nothing. That's a joke.

[@Divionist]

Surprised no whistle was blown as he laid there in pain.

[@Bdizzle-o6o]

The dumbest thing is pushing another player into your own goalie then getting mad that your goalie is injured.

[@JustThatGoalie]

Yes none of us avs fans think it should be goalie interference but the PLAY SHOULD HAVE BEEN BLOWN DEAD BECAUSE HE WAS HURT!! And they did the same thing for a player in the first period

[@ancho-31337]

Nobody (on the ice, at least) would've cared if not for the unnecessary, classless celly

[@tynao2029]

It was goalie interference. Can't skate into the crease and divebomb the goalie

[@calebcameron9486]

It wasn't that Wedge got hurt, scoring that goal and then celebrating adds insult, to insult on top of injury. the League is about respect, not that cheap crap. I was honesly surprized they didnt let the Av's have a free goal to show respect for Wedge

[@ninetailedfox579121]

@@JustThatGoalie That's not how the rules work. The team of the injured player must have possession of the puck in order for play to be blown dead.

[@zeldadahedgehog]

And the Avs came back and won in overtime 🏔

[@emiliafrank1578]

The ref followed the rules, but I think it should be changed to if it is the goaltender that’s injured you should blow play dead, otherwise continue play till your team gets possession back how it is currently.

[@NooBeRGoD]

then you'd have goalies milking "injuries" all the time. Kinda like how they used to shake off their helmet to get a stoppage when any little thing touched their helmets

[@emiliafrank1578]

@ they’d have to put some rule in place like if you seem to play fine after the “injury” you’re given a double minor or something as a goalie. It’s pretty obvious if we’re hurt ngl.

[@captainjoe19]

it has always been a mystery to me how TJ Luxemore is an actual NHL referee.

[@chef2042]

As soon as an injury occurs, they need to blow the play dead. ESPECIALLY IF ITS THE GOALIE. There was no goalie interference. I can’t deny that. But you need to stop to play.

[@NooBeRGoD]

Nope. You don't actually. It's literally written in the rules as to how to handle this. Wedgewood wasn't in any danger to his wellbeing if play had continued.

[@chef2042]

@@NooBeRGoDso a possible puck to the face doesn’t count as immediate danger? If that puck hits him in the face, you risk so much more. Especially a fight.

[@NooBeRGoD]

@@chef2042 How you gonna hit his face when it's behind all those pads? There wasn't any danger to Wedgewood. Helmets still on, padding still on. No further danger.

[@chef2042]

@@NooBeRGoD the mask won’t protect the bottom of his face. Plus if skaters aren’t paying attention they risk injury if they trip on him and can further injure him more. If the play is away from the injured player, sure. But there was so much wrong and not to mention poor sportsmanship from Buffalo

[@abliteration1868]

​@NooBeRGoD A player is down right where 5 players (usually) are trying to shoot an object as hard as a rock at speeds up to 100mph hardly able to move and Wedgewood isn't in immediate danger? Any other of the 31 teams in the NHL would've gotten an immediate whistle, seen it many of times in the past. This just sends a message to the league that if you want an easy goal on the Avs try to take out their goalies leg, make him unable to move and score a wrap around goal, it's not about the game it's about player safety and the message.

[@TheMichalrusnak]

Curious about one thing- does it change things if the offensive player fell because of the defensive’s player action? or simply doesn’t matter and it should be blown dead? Similar to goaltending Infr where if u push a player into your goalie the goal usually stands?

[@StuckInSyrup]

I think this also happened to the stars in the 2019 playoffs

[@AustinWestbro]

I let out an audible gasp when I saw what happend to Wedgewood on the replay. Legs aren't supposed to go sideways like that lol

[@primer16]

its not Bensons job to figure out if the play should be dead or not, nor was he even looking at the goalie to know he was hurt.

[@DeanCrawford-d4y]

It's his job to stay out of the blue, he was in deep as hell before being pushed or anything, putting the goalie in a bad situation and look what happened.

[@jonnysnipes3123]

@@DeanCrawford-d4ybeing in the blue is not illegal, you can thank brett halls controversy cup winning goal for that

[@jonah.donohue]

@@jonnysnipes3123That’s goaltender interference bucko, it’s obvious a violation

[@primer16]

@DeanCrawford-d4y lol. No he wasn't

[@TheLotBoysTV]

Buddy just seized a sucker punch at the end.

[@Mclaren1976]

Refs should had called stoppage when the goalie was down for so many seconds. Ridiculous!

[@NooBeRGoD]

play being blown dead needs to meet certain criteria. Avs needed to regain possession of the puck, which never happened. Also, since Wedgewood wasn't in immediate danger like being unconscious, bleeding out, or had his helmet knocked off, the play was still live.

[@YungKilogram]

​@@NooBeRGoDrefs can blow the whistle when a player is injured regardless of what the injury is. And goalies are always in immediate danger when they are injured because they sit in front of the net where the puck gets shot. The refs didn't know there was going to be a wrap around they could've passed to the point for a slap shot and injured him further.

[@zacharygoldenberg8919]

@@YungKilogram Also the rule is different for the goalie. If a goalie is hurt play is blown dead no matter the situation. As you said he is always in danger even more so when he is injured and vulnerable.

[@christosdeschaine9444]

Luxmore better be careful next time he refs an Avs game. He might get accidentally run into.

[@sauliruottu5871]

Now there's something I've never seen before: No whistle after goalie injury.

[@myerlinggames]

lol 2:01 - Aves player swats his stick at Wedgewoods shin right where Benson fell on it. Anyway, as per rules Aves didn't control the puck, it was Aves player that caused the collision, and Wedgewood wasn't in life threatening situation while down on the ice. Had Aves obtained control, it would have been blown dead.

[@powergi3996]

Maybe in 2025 players could stop pushing opposing players into their own goaltender and then act all offended.

[@LA-ly9mq]

You know, I almost started to reply to your dumbass comment and explain what happened but you clearly don't have enough brain cells to actually understand it and understand why people were pissed off so I'm not going to waste my time.

[@KendallKinnunen-s5m]

The reason the Ref did not stop the play because Colorado Player #17 caused Buffalo Player #9 to into Wedgewood. #17 for Colorado caused #9 for Buffalo to fall over, which led to Wedgewood's injury. Since the helmet of the Goaltender did NOT come off during the play, it must continue until Colorado has control of the puck, since Colorado never got control play MUST continue which allowed Buffalo to score. Yes, many fans believe the play should have been stopped for Goalie injury even if the helmet did not fall off since the Goalie kinda can't save anything during the play. But the Colorado Player #17 was the main cause of the #9 fall if you go back to any game in NHL history when a player gets hurt from blocking a shot or a goalie gets hurt the refs will NOT stop playing until the Team with the injured player stops playing. Welcome to the Rules of the NHL.

[@jasonmcmurtry7812]

Such utter bullsh*t non stoppage of play with Scott Wedgewood laying down in the net, but at least the Avs still won the game.

[@stephenphillips6245]

Wedgewood had a bad heel injury when he played for New Jersey...this can't help this fact

[@legendstarghost]

The goal shouldn’t have counted

[@MackinseyCehura]

Protecting teammates at it's finest, heck yeah!!!!!!!! I hope Wedgewood is okay

[@zjsz4954]

Whichever Sabres player (75) stepped in and stopped Girard from sucker punching Benson is a hero. He stopped a bad situation for both players involved

[@bertoneill2488]

Bryson

[@ChunChin-em4wo]

2:54 looked like a little girl punch anyways 😂

[@h2oski1200]

@@bertoneill2488 Clifton

[@andrewm.8228]

​@@bertoneill2488Clifton

[@Mylife4hockey]

The goal shouldn't have happens based off of the injury. Saying that it's 100% friendly fire. Buffalo did not do anything wrong.

[@LA-ly9mq]

All you need to do to understand what happened and why people were pissed off is go watch the post game presser with the avalanche coach. It does not matter that it was our own player that ultimately pushed the buffalo player into our goalie. It does not matter that the avalanche did not regain possession of the puck. Wedgewood was laying screaming in pain in the crease curled up in a ball and the referees did absolutely nothing. As soon as that puck went off to the corner and there was no imminent scoring chance that play should have been blown dead. They do it all the time. They literally did it earlier in this same game with Dhalin, and that was when he was in the neutral zone and there was basically zero percent chance that he could get hit by a shot. For all the people acting like a know it all and quoting the rule, by your logic if a player takes a hundred mile an hour slap shot to the face from his own player and is laying on the ice in pain, the refs shouldn't stop play because it was his own player that caused that situation. And yet every time that that happens the play is immediately blown dead.

[@Marixa1979]

The problem is the same as it's always been. A player, or goalie, will get injured, big or small, and they'll stay down on the ice to get a whistle. It turns out the injury was minor, but they got their team the advantage of a whistle when they're being caved in and next shift, that player is back on the ice. That is why they changed it so the ref can call it, but otherwise their team needs to get possession first.

[@Ziggy_Moonglow]

Nope. If you think players don't dive and fake injury, you are naive. Crying 'wolf' is what got the rules in place in the first place...

[@михалконстантиныч]

A similar goal was scored today in Florida

[@Aaron_LH]

Avs pushed a guy into their goalie and then never regained possession. Feels like the right call tbh but with the goalie THAT visibly injured I'm surprised it wasn't blown dead

[@tynao2029]

Just because Benson can't skate, doesn't mean he got pushed

[@bobmontana37]

@@tynao2029 He literally gets pushed are you blind lmao

[@tynao2029]

@@bobmontana37 You must be blind because yes Benson initiates the contact

[@Turtti781]

you are not allow to toch goalie so that goal never hapened..

[@bluegroll1]

Not the players fault, play to the whistle right..?

[@tynao2029]

It's his fault for skating into the goalie and committing goalie interference and injuring the goalie and then realizing he was injured and then scoring a cheap goal and then celebrating like he did something....yes kinda the players fault lol

[@bluegroll1]

@ yeah fair take - I’ve got no dog in the fight, that celly afterwards was definitely outrageous lmao

[@tynao2029]

@@bluegroll1 And yes..I know Benson was contacted when he entered the crease but this is to be expected...you can't expect to U turn suddenly and skate across the crease and goalie suddenly without contact by defender, or else that's all that would happen, and we rather have skillful goals from outside the crease rather than everyone crash the crease and take out the goalie goals

[@scottboa2738]

The Buffalo player was pushed into the goalie by a Colorado player (0:09, watch closely). Then, after Buffalo scores, several Colorado players attack the Buffalo players. Am I correct? Colorado can thank God that I'm not in charge of player safety & disciple. Those Colorado players would have been suspended for LIFE. I have ZERO tolerance for that kind of crap.

[@devilsmetsfan6393]

NHL is a joke with what is and what isn’t goalie interference. Wedgwood is clearly injured by Sabres player and down and no whistle is blown. Devils player gets pushed into Kings goalie by Kings player and that is goalie interference but this is not? Refs are destroying the game.

[@NooBeRGoD]

play is whistled dead if a player is in imminent danger *at discretion of the ref* from the immediate play. There was no danger to Wedgewood.

[@devilsmetsfan6393]

@@NooBeRGoD A puck hitting him in the head or back when shot to score is not imminent danger? Wedgewood was helpless and not able to protect himself.

[@texpelt8858]

I'm more upset with the ref for not blowing the damn whistle than any of the players doing what they did.

[@Habsfan_Nick]

that ref should be fired

[@ryleyw3684]

Not a fan of either team but there was no way he could have stopped that if he's clearly in pain there, crazy how the goal stood

[@abliteration1868]

Once again this is proof how much NHL refs hate Avs goalies. Any other team wouldve gotten an immediate whistle. So glad the Avs won this game after this BS

[@David-qy6bs]

NHL refs just hate all goalies and using their heads for more than a helmet holder.

[@NooBeRGoD]

play is whistled dead if a player is in imminent danger at *discretion of the ref* from the immediate play. There was no danger to Wedgewood.

[@jtizzleforlife]

They did earlier in the game, the precedent was set yet ignored for a serious injury. So happy they came back and won.

[@abliteration1868]

Earlier in the same game Dahlin got a whistle after being hit by Rantanen and wasn't even scratched, so you're telling me that was imminent danger but a goalie being flat on his back in pain right inside the net eventually unable to put any pressure on his leg isn't? Maybe not but that shows inconsistency with the refs calling in this game, BS plain and simple

[@timdowney6721]

It was a crappy call, but the reason is the incompetence of NHL officials.

[@Darkwingdad]

I get both sides but you hit an opposing player INTO your goalie the rule is the injured players team must gain control. The fact the avs try to attack benson & throw a hissy fits proves more how soft & fragile this league has become, thanks Bettman

[@markbarry9945]

100% good goal, goalie's own player injured him

[@PeteNice29]

I remember when Bishop was cranked in the collarbone by Parayko in the '19 playoffs. He was down and out, and the Blues scored. It counted. I'm wondering if it's a change of possession thing. Not actually sure what the rule is.

[@ph1shstyx]

@@UpTheIronsEdForceOne Exactly, the rule changed after Matt Calvert took a puck to the head that broke his helmet and he lay bleeding on the ice and play didn't stop because of the "possession" rule