Sprinters, Giants, and Brawlers: Giraffoids of Kaimere | Sci-Fi Biology Worldbuilding

Giraffoids of Kaimere are quite different than those on Earth. The different paths to success they made on different planets helps underscore how context can significantly alter the evolution a group will take, and that had elements of our own prehistory diverged, we could have an entirely different cast of flora and fauna today.
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[@dudotolivier6363]

The Houze Grass is by FAR the first and most put into the screen/foreground spec evo plant to be shown ! I like this plant a lot ! This specie is so iconic and have a so great importance in Kaimere and Known World history and evolution, having a strong and significant impact ! I also like the concept of Sub-genus, that we also use on earth, to regroups more precisely species in the sames genus (like in Monitors lizars in the Varanus genus). Because inside the same genus, every specie are or can be not so closely related to each others !

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yup! Especially within this particular grass genus there’s a lot of disagreement and reassignment of where the subgenera go or if some might get their own genus. Was fun to look into and I plan on studying further soon!

[@beastmaster0934]

Giraffoidea is my favorite superfamily of artiodactyls. In my own seed world (inspired by yours). They are a diverse family. Being found all across the northern continent of Laurasica. The antilocaprids fill their usual niches of speedy grazers of the northern prairies, with the largest being about the size of a roan antelope. While the giraffids and their relatives fill medium-sized to megafaunal grazer and browser niches on the Great Savanna, a vast tropical savanna larger than any tropical savanna on Earth, which is found in southern Laurasica. With the largest of these being the gigantic Prairie Titan, a gigantic descendant of Sivatherium.

[@nicolaverzeletti1684]

You say well pal

[@hop1805]

A video on the chalicotheres of kaimere would be cool! We have only really seen Schizotheriinae in kaimere so i wonder what the Chalicotheriinae in kaimere look like! (Or if they even are in kaimere

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely! Would mostly focus on the ghlanos since it's currently the only species in Kaimere, but the clade has a pretty long history in Kaimere and are more diverse on the Eastern continent!

[@Andrey.Ivanov]

If I have to guess Chalicotheriinae were probably brought at some point but they might have been outcompeted by sloths, atleast in the Known World.

[@ALLHEART_]

I asked Keenan to make a video which presents the specific saddles he's designed for the ghlanos when it is used in the context of war, so I also hope he does a video on chalicotheres as well.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere It's amazing ! I always thought that the Glanos was the only specie on the ENTIRE planet ! So cool if they are others species outside the Known World !

[@FatFish7600]

Keenan acutally said there are 1 chalicothere species on northern forest.

[@dudotolivier6363]

The Unicorn (or Kaimeran Unicorn) is probably one of the iconic species that Kaimere have since this creature was imagined at the beginning of this spec evo project. Starting as a Sivatherium specie, but rework as a progeny of another member of the same family netherless : the Shivatheridae ! So at final it's more or less the same things and result. Not a big or significant change. However, the current design of this video is a redesign, but not a big one. In fact, this design look more like a older version of this specie compared to the first previous one. So in fact, the two design, the firs and the second one here, are all two 100% one each others ! The now current one being a full adult (mature stage) specimens with his horns fully developped, his goatee and skin hanging from the neck; Thus the first design become now the depiction of a younger individual, a young adult, with his frontal horn not fully developped and lacking (because not having yet) the goatee and skin hanging that will developt later when growing up ! The specimen of the first design however also possess abberants stripes who are unique to this specimen, like comonly zebras have unique stripes for each specimens with sme being really standing out from others to a very great extent. All the others Unicorns specimens have stripes like the Full grown adult specimen depicted here in this video. Otherwise, this creature is also very clever because that allow this fantasycal universe to have unicorns in a logical and scientific way in addition to be very imaginaive since we have a quadrupedal creature having a frontal horn and who is very elusive and difficult to see but being as the same time very far away from the generic majectic pure white horse from our myths ! So yes, a very beautiful, iconic and interesting animal !

[@Andrey.Ivanov]

I really enjoyed it when a new exciting paleontological discovery comes out of nowhere and you immediately find a way to bring it to Kaimere. Discokeryx is a very interesting animal and just like that a couple of weeks after its discovery it's officially part of a fantasy/science fiction world.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah! I was so excited reading up on it. Struggled to get a good aesthetic for it but I’m happy with the final result.

[@Andrey.Ivanov]

@@TalesofKaimere Yeah I remember the issue with the tail posture, but I think that it turned out pretty great at the end.

[@sivanlevi3867]

Our pronghorns can reach 60 miles per hour, making them the second fastest land animal after the cheetah. It may surprise many that some giraffids had antler-like structures on their head, but the prehistoric Sivatherium is a well-known example.

[@cottton]

Yeah and i think the reason for that speed was actually a now extinct species of cheetah that used to hunt them

[@sivanlevi3867]

Actually, Miracinonyx the American Cheetah you're talking about isn't a cheetah at all. It had the speed of a cheetah, but was a relative of the mountain lion or cougar. Plus Dire Wolves used to hunt pronghorns too so they can be considered another reason to evolve that speed.

[@dudotolivier6363]

Despite that there any modern giraffe, the Unicorn fitt their ecological niche and role, being also good equivalent, since this specie have a similar tall size at adulthood and eat the sames food resources at the same height. Also, the Unicorn look sightly like a giraffe if we put out the horns and the plain colour coat. The zebra like colors thighs of the hind legs are also reminiscent of an Okapi so we have a fairly good compromise in the end !

[@dudotolivier6363]

Despite that Kaimere's pronghorns came from a ancient North American harvest (Antilocapridae are exclusive from this region of the world) and are 8-14 million years separate from the Earth current living pronghorn (the one and unique "Antilocapra americana") and are so pretty distant even remaining in the same family, their overall physical appearances similarities/ressemblances are not only due to a overall similar ecological niche but because these mammals don't really change much duting this hole period between the ancestors of these species on Kaimere and the single specie on Earth today. In fact, when we take a view on the differents fossils and others species/genus of this family like Osbornoceros, Stockoceros, Merycodus, Ramoceros or Tetrameryx (and his HUGE long horns), it's only the size of their horns and body who change and the rest still relatively similar. Like Old World Antilope, they had an almost perfect form who allowed to survived whithout having many need to change very hightly over the millions years.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yes indeed!

[@CalypsoRaven618]

I came here for Giraffoids and Unicorns. I was pleasantly surprised to be treated to Hosse Grass and Archery traditions.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Try to pack as much in as I can!

[@timothystuedemann5390]

Good episode. I find it funny that in one of the sketches it looks like a Giraffoid is blowing a raspberries at a titanosaur. Now due to this episode I want to know more about Kaimeran chalicotheres and especially what happened to the other chalicotheres in the family of two.

[@TalesofKaimere]

I definitely want to give them an episode!

[@timothystuedemann5390]

Well even if we don't get another calicathere the ghlanos is one of my favorites. But I do have one request . It doesn't have to be an actual existing Kaimere animal but can you make a picture of what a draft horse version of a calicothere would look like?

[@xydya]

So pumped for these guys!

[@jjthepurplecreator8233]

Same

[@TalesofKaimere]

Glad to hear it! Hope you enjoyed!

[@BigBossMan538]

I like how you find ways to incorporate recent paleontology into your world. Nice to see Discokeryx being introduced to Kaimere!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely!! Was way too neat to pass up on

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere YEAAH ! It's truly stunishing how fast and the how high your level of rapidity is to include every or most, or some last minute discoveries into Kaimere's Lore in order to give more complexity and diversity yo this world ! Truly amazing and respectful work Keenan !

[@xuanluu4873]

It’d be fun to explore how Water and Giant Antelopes are on their way to Pakardiant domestication

[@dudotolivier6363]

On Kaimere, since they're also true Antilopes and Gazelles, it's pretty obvious that Kaimeran must often mistake Pronghorns with these later a lot due to their similar body shape and ecological niche ! If there only 4 species in the Known World, they number must however be very high outside this region, especially in the Eastern Continent where Giraffoid are more present ! And people of these regions must being very confuse all the time XD ! But Pronghorns on Kaimere are very, very stunishingly fast ! Faster than Gazelles or Antelopes ! Their speed and endurance are highly legendary amongst Kaimerans ! Because, on Kaimere, since there a lot of cursorial predators such Cockatrices, Entelodont, or others theropods predators, it's also make sens that theses Pronghorns species must be very, very fast in order to thrive among theses carnivores ! Their speed is directly linked to the one of their predators. And a significant vector of their evolution. On earth, the single living Pronghorn specie (Antilocapra americana) is the second faster specie and animal on earth after the African Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus). Which is very inronic. And she is so fast that she have in North America any predators (heathly adults being too fast, except Coyotes for the youngs). So if any predators can hunt this specie, why this later evolved to be too fast than the nessesary need for the currents predators who cohabit with her ? There only one confirmed explanation (from srong fossil evidence) to this question : because, ironiquely like I said, it's was to to flee the American Cheetah (Miracinonyx unexpectatus, close see identical to modern African Cheetah in term of body plan, and not the M. trumani specie who was more close to Puma/Mountain lion in term of body plans but more evolved than M. unexpectatus ironically. The specie Miracinonyx trumani is called the "American Mountain Cheetah" thus M. inexpectatus is called under the name of "American Steppe Cheetah", in order to differenciate better the two species) that the current pronghorn on earth evolved to be so fast. This Cheetah specie are long gone extinct but the Pronghorn survive the Ice Age extinction !

[@vasantmasurekar4826]

Absolutely loved this video. The diversity of this clade is astonishing in Kaimere. Wish more had survived there.

[@dudotolivier6363]

The black and white picture at 1:54 minute is quite representative of how the presence and cohabitation between the Titans Sauropod and the Giraffid closest relatives (Sivatheridae and Discokeryx species) is as at the time where these giraffoid species where introduced for the first time as currently ! (Plus, the Unicorn's ancestor we see in the middle is just so hilarious as he sticks his tongue out 👅 at the titanosaur to mock him despite being smaller 🤭!).

[@TalesofKaimere]

Haha had fun with that little expression!

[@manateeoverlord7507]

Yass, been following your progress on Instagram and made me look more into the giraffoids and I thank you for that.

[@TalesofKaimere]

My pleasure! Such a fascinating group!!

[@liambrandley2716]

Giraffes are my favorite animals of all time so it's wonderful to see you make a video on them even if modern species don't exist on kaimere

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely!

[@chancegivens9390]

Absolutely fantastic! All these beasts are very fascinating, especially the unicorns and giant pronghorn.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!!

[@chancegivens9390]

@@TalesofKaimere no problem man!

[@TheGBZard]

Nice to see a video showcasing giraffoids, too bad the long necked ones from earth died

[@shingtiong9425]

Nice that you did a video on these guys.They are very underrated.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely. Super interesting group!

[@dudotolivier6363]

This video truly show how awesome and how you can be about the acualities and the fossil reccord, paleontology's discoveries and studies, even the very, very recent ones who have only few months, weeks or days ! The Discokeryx (D. xiezhi) is a very good example of that ! This specie, a girrafe relative who lived in Asia, China, at 17 million years ago (Early Miocene) was only discovered but also described there few time, at the beginning of this 2022 June month ! Almost ONE single month ! By Wang et al. This was a Okapi-like giraffoid in overall physical appearances, who seem to have a pretty similar overall ecologycal niche of the modern Okapi but living in much more open-spaces areas. It's was an open-land grazer His most iconic and first glances looking charateristic trait was his hard and thick dome on his head, he use in fight against his congeners or to defen himself or attack against predators. This dome is the confirmed to be the most harder,optimized, extreme and specialize example of the head-butting kind of fight, even surpassing the examples and levels of the Musk ox (Ovibos) and the diferents Rams species (who are all very high levels already !) ! In one sentence : "this giraffe specie was to giraffoid and mammals that the Pachycephalosaurid were to dinosaurs" ! Because it's exactly the same adaptation we have here ! His name is a referrence to an eponym chinese lengendary beast, called the "Xiezhi". Also, this specie received recently many light from many people, like on KZbin by different KZbinrs like Henry the PaleoGuy, Edge etc... so good channel to check for the ones interested ! Truly good channels to learns many more obscurs, either recents or nws, facts about the prehistorics life ! Hope that you know their exisence keenan ! And also good to you the make light on this new incredible specie !

[@loisonnut]

Despite the actual giraffe not being present here, there are a LOT of these guys on Kaimere. Whatever is cooking up in the Eastern Continent sounds very nice, hoping for a giant Discokeryx. 1. How big were the MEGA HONSE gardener chalicotheres ? 2. What predators try to tackle the big members of the clade? 3. Have any Kaimeran species been hunted to extinction by humans? 4. What are the odd side horns on the Unicorn used for?

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. Around 4-6 tons 2. At that point they didn’t really have viable predators. Theropods we’re all under a ton at the time of their dominion. They evolved alongside the megaraptorans which is why ghlanos fare better against them than incoming proboscids. 3. Definitely. 4. For show and interlocking with the main horn before shoving.

[@loisonnut]

@@TalesofKaimere For the second question, I meant the giraffids. My bad, probably should've clarified that.

[@ryanchen1819]

@@TalesofKaimere You said that the mega abelisaurs, dromaeosaurs, and entelodonts once inhabited the Northern continent. At what point in time did they enter that continent?

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@ryanchen1819 Giant abelisaurids were the first large theropods to evolve and popped up independently on both northern and eastern continents. Mega dromies followed their titan prey. I don't remember saying the giant entelodonts were in the known world. They've always been restricted to the Eastern continent with the possible exception of a few males since they're so nomadic that they almost certainly crossed the northern land bridge from time to time, but not in a way that could establish a resident population.

[@ryanchen1819]

@@TalesofKaimere I see; in the video explaining the origins of Kaimeran megaraptorans, you said that the herbivores in the Northern continent where accustomed the fending off single point attacks from abelisaurs, dromaeosaurs, and entelodonts prior to the arrival of Western megaraptorans.

[@dudotolivier6363]

Like I always said, I Love how you manage to include fantastic and mythical lengendary beast of our popular culture into Kaimere lore universe, with only and based on science ! And the Unicorn is one of the best examples of this Kaimere's aspect ! This creature not only seem like a Unicorn, in his overall concept (a quadrupedal ungulates with a frontal horn) and behavior (being elusive, discreet, difficult to spot/see (despite his huge size in this case)), but also a sort of match/mix between our modern Giraffes and our current living Okapi ! Having a overall Giraffes shape and size, and the overall coloration of an Okapi (Brown body with Zebra like legs). In total, we have 3 animals in a single specie !

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely! Was fun to make something feel kinda mythical even to the people who live with it.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere Yep, also, just to know, can we said that the first design of the Unicorn represent a young adult stage of this specie ? Because you use this previous design already canonically in the Koban's Menagerie story where Taro fight a Unicorn (mobile.twitter.com/TalesofKaimere/status/1313532841834274819/photo/1). And also, the first design look really more like a depiction of a young specimen than a true full adult ! Having a not fully developt frontal horn and same for the two others horns on his head. And also having dark spots who disapeared when reaching matural sexuality. Which can make sens since this giraffid live in forest biome and newborns, youngs and juveniles specimens must use cammouflage to hide from predators, thus when they are full grown adult females or bulls, they do not have any naturals predators ! The stripes dispositions, about them, can either be abberrants patterns unique to the specimen of the previous design or either part of the pattern who change when he grows up ! It's a pretty good compromise which work/atch togethers pretty good ! No ?

[@nigerjohnson4977]

Another fantastic species episode. Wonder what's next.

[@ALLHEART_]

I've been considering making some variety of giraffoids the main mounts of the people in a biosphere I'm working on, so this is timely. I imagine they'd be ecologically similar to horses, and I imagined them in hindsight as looking similar to how you've presented your helmeted unicorn, although with a flatter, plate-like structure on their heads, rather than a dome. Thanks for the vid.

[@TalesofKaimere]

My pleasure! It’s such a cool clade and ripe for wild and funky speculative designs!

[@Ditidos]

Interesting that the modern giraffes didn't survive in the houze prairy. What happened to them? How did they became extinct? Pakardiant mounting those giant pronghorns is also a very cool idea. The insight into their bow-making was also interesting, it's nice to see how the peoples of Kaimere interact with the fauna native to the planet. I also love the idea of titanosaur-imitating calicotheres. A shame they went extinct but it makes a lot of sense that they did. Well, except the ghlanos, but I assume it is a very diferent animal from the gardening calicotheres.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Those that came through struggled to establish a niche since their preferred food wasn’t widespread (damn houze grass) and they were very vulnerable to predators. Uktan have a lot more endurance and could pretty easily outpace them over distance even if giraffes were faster short term. Also being super vulnerable while drinking only works when you’re bigger than all the predators.

[@Bullmooseroughrider]

Loved the art in this. The patterns and colors are great.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks man!

[@delmerputnam1679]

Awesome video! Love seeing how giraffoids have adapted to Kaimere. It’s interesting to see unicorns as giraffoids too. I’ve seen rhino concepts but giraffe unicorn is unique. Was it originally a giraffoids when who made it on the map or was that a resent update? Either way, cool stuff. It was surprising and cool to see the houze grass developed on in this vid. I honestly wasn’t expecting that but it’s so cool and had no idea it was so ferocious as a plant. You mentioned in this and other videos that houze grass isn’t very nutritious. Exactly how nutritious is it? And what caused it to be so aggressive? Also what’s up with the spiral seeds? Do kaimerans have any cultural perceptions of unicorns like we do on earth? And what do giraffoids look like on the eastern continent, if they’re there at all Anyways, thanks for taking my questions and making an awesome video. I look forward to receiving Tales of Kaimere Vol 1 in the mail tomorrow!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yup! The original giraffoid is on the map. Has had this cladistics for about 10 years and has been through a couple changes in design. This one has been planned for a few years but I didn't have time for the studying and drawing until now. Unfortunately I'm still dipping my toes in the botanical waters so only have some surface level knowledge combined with consulting with some plant specialists to fill in my knowledge gaps. I don't have the stats for exactly how nutritious it is. Its tough and low nutrient, on the extreme end of plants in its genus, which are already known for those traits. c4 plants in general need lots of light and not much water, so again taking that to an extreme: houze can't grow in shade but can turn a desert into a prairie since it needs minimal water. As for its cause, aggression proved very successful in taking advantage of any opening in floral niche. Plants, especially fast growth, are often a lot more aggressive than we assume since its on a much slower time scale than the movement and aggression of animals, but it's there. The spiral seeds were inspired by that trait in other Sporobolus plants. I don't know what advantages they offer but an amateur's guess is it's perhaps good for fitting a bunch of seeds together while leaving some gaps so the seeds can air out and not get overheated? Again, just my guess. Kaimerans have a range of cultural perceptions of unicorns. More signs of virility than purity. Don't have much canon on Eastern continent giraffoids but there will definitely be more pronghorn diversity. Thanks for the great questions! I hope you enjoy the stories!!!

[@delmerputnam1679]

@@TalesofKaimere Interesting. So kaimerians have the opposite views of unicorns that earth does. Cool. And I’m sure I will!

[@thecuriousone0680]

Loved the vid as always and the background music in this one was beautiful too I do have a question about Kaimere that just came to my mind are there any triassic lineages still present in Kaimere? It'd be neat to see what some of those freaks (affectionately) can become in this world's context.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you! If there were any triassic harvests it would be minimal since that period was the height of the Permian Dynasty. Don't really have plans for them at the moment.

[@thecuriousone0680]

@@TalesofKaimere makes sense, thanks!

[@1998topornik]

Pronghorns from Kaimere have very nice designs. I see inspirations from sable antelope, modern pronghorn and giant eland. I am not a fan of new design for kaimeran unicorn, old one looked more graceful and had nicer coloration in my opinion. It is shame there is no another giraffid with quirky headgear (they are amazing!).

[@alghoulaj7172]

At last, the giraffoids video. Well, I'm still very curious about the other clades of mammalian, reptilians, and dinosaurs...

[@bengaltiger1667]

This one makes me wonder if Giraffa and Okapia might gain a foothold in Kaimere eventually.

[@TalesofKaimere]

They didn’t in the most recent harvests but possibly down the road!

[@ianswinford5570]

I take it you got the idea for this from the new discovery of the giraffe ancestor that had a headpiece like a Stygimoloch? Always happy to hear more about the wonderful world of Kaimere. Ever since your monkey video, I look forward to seeing what the great apes of Kaimere are like.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely! Was definitely inspired by Discokeryx and had to add it in.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Great apes are on the list but not in the immediate future since my current slots are all sponsored topics!

[@ItsNorthVR]

I know i said “molluscs of Kaimere” but might i add another suggestion. Trilobites of Kaimere

[@TalesofKaimere]

Oh that would be fun! Do plan on some relics and will be fun to explore their survival

[@coreys.2456]

So damn cool. Very creative way to incorporate one of the most notorious mythical mammals into Kaimere. I do have some questions (some related and unrelated): 1. Which Megaraptoran would win in a 1v1? The Uktan or Zentaur? Both seem pretty evenly matched. 2. How fast can Unicorns run? 3. What are their predators? I know a Taro was featured in a previous video mauling a Unicorn. 4. Will the Unicorn make its debut in The Lost Hellfighter or be saved for a future novel(s)?

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. Like lion vs tiger, they’re so similar that it really comes down to individual. 2. Unicorns can clock 35 mph but usually slower with all that headgear. Open forests are only so open. 3. Zentaur is really their only regular predator. Black cockatrice and darun can sometimes bring them down but it’s not an easy fight 4. Not going to be in The Lost Hellfighter at the moment but I might include it in the menagerie scene!

[@coreys.2456]

@@TalesofKaimere Neat. I kinda figured that Megaraptoran duel would go either way. The Uktan seems to have greater stamina and a slight height advantage while the Zentaur is heavier and stockier. Also I’m always fascinated by the fact that that such large animals can move as fast as they do. Like, you wouldn’t really consider a hippo or elephant fast runners at first glance until they start sprinting toward ya.

[@minecraftdinokaijumdk992]

A bit of a late question, but I did have to ask: Since Common Pronghorns and Forest Pronghorns are not in Arvel (and especially not in Qajar), given the isolation of the peninsula (made more vacant by the intervention of the First Children), are there possibly any Late Pleistocene American Pronghorns in Arvel (or at least the same species as the one on modern Earth in Kaimere in general, even if restricted to Qajar)?

[@dudotolivier6363]

The Discokeryx was a member of the recent established Prolibytheriidae family, in the Giraffoid family, being close to the okapis and modern giraffes. In this family, there were also two (or one) genus : - Prolibytherium, a similar specie to the Discokeryx in body shape but having a pretty stunishing trait. She exhibited spectacular sexual dimorphism: the male had a pair of leaf-shaped ossicones 35 centimeters wide on its head, while those of the female were thin, resembling horns. At first glances, we can thought males and females were two different species, but not ! - Tsaidamotherium, a specie of giraffoidean yhat was unicorn looking with one single frontal horn, in which one of the two reconized specie ressemble to a Phrygian cap (T. hedini). This specie live in rocky mountains areas in cold temperature in Northern China. This creature also possessed a vaulted muzzles like those of the takin or Saiga antelope. However, the classification of this creature as giraffoid still recent and was made in 2022, but it's not definitiv with highly doubts on this by scientist. And it's alway possible that the Tsaidamotherium was in fact a Caprinae and Ovibovini member close to the muskox as originalmy thought ! Is it possible to have these two creatures species on Kaimere ?

[@seanessdracosaurus2793]

Awesome

[@dudotolivier6363]

It's a shame that there any modern Giraffes or Okapi on Kaimere... But in the same time, it's make sens that the first don't manage to thrive on this planet ! Because despite being large animals, they have any real traits allowing them to establish itself permanently ! Okay, Moderns Giraffes have a high size tall and a very long neck, that give them the advantage to reach leaves and others food, fruits or vegetation on the trees that the others animals can access, have a thick tongue who allow them to eat most of the thorns and spikes food (like Acacia kind trees) and can see from very far distances the dangers in the vas opens plains areas. I agree it's very good advantages/survival skills... But outside that, they have only weakness in the overall context of Kaimere. On earth, only the giraffe calf have predators when they have a young age, mainly big cats like lions, but on Kaimere where there are large theropods, even the adults are permanently under the traits of Megaraptorans or others larges carnivorous dinosaurs. They have a low reproduction, having one single calf all the few years, having any defined breeding season certainly, but a 15 months incubation inside the mother, and 12 to 16 months to complete the weaning, and a giraffe can stay with its mother until it is two and a half years old. And at final, the sexual maturity is only reached at 3 to 4 years old. Also, it's very easy for large theropods to kill giraffes since they haven't a thick skin but a soft one, allowing them to penetrate deeply into the flesh and making fatal wounds, even more easy when it's directly on the fin and long neck, making the throat cut quick and painful over its entire (long) surface.... Also, since Giraffes have long legs, they have the famous difficulty position we know of them they must do in order to drink, being a very vulnerable position and period when predators can easily attack them. Also, even if Giraffes are more or less fast, it's also easy to break they fin legs to knock them down... This is why there any modern giraffes on Kaimere, even if it's sure at 100% that they were harvested since there was the modern African Elephant and the modern African Cheetah that were harvested too, but any of them manage to survive and they quickly become extint after their introductions. Okapis have a pretty similar bodyplan and ecological niche to the Sivatherinae species, being deep and elusive forest animals with ashort neck and being more robust than giraffes... However, there any Okapid too because the Unicorn occupied the same niche and the okapis that were harvested weren’t able to establish themselves with the Unicorns and large deer in their preferred habitat. But mainly large deers since the Unicorn is huge, almost he size of a modern giraffe (also, I imagined one, of the additionning element that not allow giraffe to establish themselves) and eat uper trees' leaves, but youngs specimens having the same size of normal Okapi share the same niche too when they are in this juvenile stage.

[@joshdoz9234]

Will you do videos on the various wars and conflicts Kaimerans engaged in?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Would be a really neat topic!

[@ryanchen1819]

Speaking of which, are there any true antelopes in Kaimere? (Pronghorns aren't true antelopes as the true ones are more closely related to bovines and goats and sheep.)

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely! Will design at least some for the bovid episode.

[@dudotolivier6363]

I like a lot the title screen with the Veraset chasing a group of Pronghorns in the Houze Prairie ! Really beautiful shot ! They do like Cheetah do with Antilopes and Gazelle on earth ! If they are true Gazelle and Antelope on Kaimere, there any African Cheetah since this specie was exterminated after his introduction.... However ! It's technically (It's still a suggestion, free to you Keenan to do whatever you want of course), possible to include this beautiful small big cat lineage into the screen of Kaimere. With a very small but stong possibility ! Recently, in a recent other comment, I spoke to you about the Puma pardoides, the Eurasian Puma, where you said me this specie was outcompeted by the current leopard. Shame but okay. But I also discovered during my reseach of this creature that, not only there Puma who lived in Eurasia during the most of the Pleistocene era, but also several species of Cheetah during the same time and place ! The main famous one is Acinonyx pardinensis, aka the Giant (Eurasian) Cheetah ! This specie belong to the same genus than the living African Cheetah (A jubatus) who was introduce but outcompeted by the Veraset hyena in the Houze Prairie. It's was a slightly larger specie, being height of a lion at the shoulder (but, due to its light build, weighed considerably less), around 79.37-100 kg (175.0-220.5 lb), and about 200 cm (79 in) from head to rump, not including a 140 cm (55 in) tail. This specie was a cold tolerant and adapted specie and lived during most of the Pleistocene Eurasia and almost in all Eurasia continent, being a Ice Age specie who cohabit with most or all of the others more iconics species of this period. She likely have a more brownish coat than the yellowish one of his current reative, but alway with spots see stripes maybe (like Royal/King Cheetah, who btw I love this variant !) and the fur being almost twice longer to support cold tempeature. The Giant Eurasian Cheetah had a pretty similar see identical niche and lifestyle than the current cheetah, being only less but very slightly, fast specie, but remaining a good sprinter, sufficient enough to run faster and quicker than any others predators of his time ! The Giant Cheetah was a fast eater who consume a great deal of flesh before another predator, such as hyenas, the machairodont Homotherium, or wolves arrived to drive the cat from its kill. In addition to have slightly larger preys like hunting games on it's diet, preys who were also for most of them cusorials and fast herbivores that most of the others more robust cannot hunt ! Overall, this specie was like a normal modern cheetah but who live in cold region and slightly larger (also, the Ice Age Eurasia environnement during the Pleistocene was overall too just a ice/cold version of the current Africa savvanh in big ways, having almost equivalent cold adapted species to the african species like elephants, rhinos or lions). With brothers males being social and hunting togethers and females being solitary and raised their cubs alones. Like the current cheetah, the Giant Cheetah was a open-spaces species, living in prairies, steppes, tundra or taiga like biomes. The Giant Eurasian Cheetah was also present during the 805-770 kya North Eurasia Harvest, since this specie lived from the Early to the end of the Middle Pleistocene (Chibanian peirod, who was not really he middle of the pleistocene despite the name, that was the Calabrian period). The Ice Age Eurasia harvest occured at the end of the Calabrian to the beginning of the Chibanian. So, with all this, it's technically possible and viable to include this Cheetah specie in Kaimere, and more precisely like inhabitant of the Highland of Arvel. Because : 1 - the Highland of Arvel, as stated by yourself Keenan, act like a symbolic refuge for most of the cold specie of the North Eurasian Harvest and others minors harvest in eurasia almost during the pleistocene (like the Highland Mammoth who descend of the Steppe Mammoth who not lived in Europe, the Homotherium, the Auroch, the Cave Lion, the Cave Bear, the Cave hyena etc...). Because the colds temperatures are strong and present almost permanently due to the geology of this place. 2 - the Highland are mainly infinite steppes and prairies open-space biome. 3 - The number of preys and herbivores must be very high, especially the fast running and endurant games like ungulates, and diversified as robust or slender/gracile one as small to medium sizes. 4 - that despite the number of local predators, many of the preys games must be to quick and fast for most of them. And the differentiation/partition of niches is pretty high. Cave Lion being like african lions and hunt large robust games such Auroch, Cave Bears are mainly herbivorous and scavengers, Highland Homotherium act like wolves or African Wild Painted Dogs and hunt also slow large preys such Mammoth, Cave Hyena act like Spotted Hyena (being just a subspecie of this later). All the niches of African predators are taken by the equivalent relatives species in the Highland, except the Cheetah niche, and Cheetah in Africa live pretty good among all these predators (all their problems who risk their existance and put them as endangered specie are due to the humans). 5 - there any Veraset hyena or others hyena like this later known in the Highland to this day. The Veraset niche is pretty open by this fact ! It's all ! Also in yout Big cat video, you referred all the way cheetah by the A jubatus specie, the current living African Cheetah, but not the other species of the genus. So if you include A pardiensis or a close (maybe fictionnal one) specie into Kaimere's lore, that will not be a big inaccuracie. In any case, Kaimere setting is truly a good place to make interesting discussions or qustion-awnser like my present commentary and to give educationnals facts for the ones who will read it ! Also, again a pretty good and entertaining video !

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you! I appreciate all the research you did but still no cheetahs in Kaimere. As I mentioned in the big cat episode the leopard outcompeted a lot of smaller generalist cats which included the pumas. Veraset does better than cheetahs since they’re almost as fast but better at defending their kills and can burrow to rest and defend their cubs.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere Like I said it's a suggestion, alway possible since leopard are not in the same party and category than the cheetah (they can outcompete pumas because the two species have similar lifestyle and leopard are bigger than pumas), leopards on earth don't outcompete cheetahs in our own earth and Veraset outcompeted the African current cheetah because he was already use the same niche in addition to be faster and better in defense against carnivores. But Veraset live only in the Houze Praire area where the living African Cheetah on earth was introduce in the Known World (because Houze Prairie is the closest biome to the African savanah), not in the Highland or the Western Continent/Arvel, so they're any real predators who can outcompete the Eurasian Cheetah. There is the Eurasian Snow African leopard subspecie in the Highland, but this form of the leopard live mainly in rocky/mountain areas or some areas where there at least some trees (because he must fitt the Snow Leopard panthera uncia of earth, being is equivalent). Like I said it's alway a possible viable idea for the moment, and you haven't developpt highly for now the Higland of Arvel. At least keep this suggestion somewhere and when you will developpt deeply this specific ecoregion, see if that can be use and include following what you will made. But seeing how the setting of the Highland is, most of the species who live in it must be current and eurasian ice age animal who not evolved so much since their introduction...

[@draim5956]

@@dudotolivier6363 CHEEETHA ARE COOL BUT GOT OUTCOMPETED BUT CHEETHA CAN TRICK LION HYNEA AND LEOPARD

[@draim5956]

@@TalesofKaimere SNIFF DO SEE CHEEETH PLEES ADD T6HEM OR I HUNT YOU DOWN WITH A PACK OF YOKAI LORD

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@draim5956 Okay, first, what were these two commentaries, and second, the African Cheetah (A jubatus) was outcompeted by the Hyena Veraset when he was introduce on Kaimere because the Veraset was already fitting the same ecological niche than him in addition to be better to keep his kills against the others predators. It's because of the Veraset and not or a very little a minimum because of the Leopard that the African Cheetah become extinct. If Leopards can or have the possibility to eradicate completely the Cheetah, there should be already any living species of Cheetah on earth to begins ! Leopards and Cheetah have truly a very small competition level between each others. - Cheetah kill mostly fasts, graciles and slenders games such smalls Antelopes or Gazelles in open-space grassland or steppes areas with very few trees. They eat very quickly before others predators came to steal his meal. - Leopard kill mostly also Antelopes and Gazelles but species of these later of bigger sizes, and hunt by mainly falling directly on their preys from the trees and brought their kill on the trees where any predators can reach them. Leopards always live where there trees or at least bush or every hills or high plateforms areas. The crucial existence of the Leopard repose of the trees' presence ! This is why Leopards and Cheetahs can be concurrents between them, they have already few interactions between them ! Also, like I said, this is also why the existence of cold Ice Age adapted species of Cheetah is possible/viable since Veraset ONLY live in the Houze Prairie and he's not present in the Highland of Arvel, that the habitants of this region is perfect for these kind of species since it's very similar from the ones they have on Earth, and at the exception of the Snow Eurasian Leopard Subspecie of the African Leopard specie, from a previous harvest, in the Highlands (who by the way live mainly at the mountains borders of this region she have with the Lowlands/rest of Arvel, and not truly inside the Highland plains themselves) there any true kind of negative obstacles against the establishment of cold Ice Age Cheetah specie such A pardiensis. Keenan said that, for now, there wasn't Cheetah species on Kaimere, BUT, that can will possibly change in the future. When he will devellop a little more the Highlands. Here, I just give him the suggestion and showing him into the foreground the mains and strong elements favorable to the inclusions of this kind of species. For the rest, we will wait and see !

[@ryanchen1819]

How did the Kaimeran unicorn's ancestors niche partition with titanosaurs?

[@stefanmoorejr]

Sad theres no giraffes in kaimere but I suppose they wouldn't do to well in a dinosaur dominant ecosystem I would love to see them kick the crap out of a megaraptoran

[@liambrandley2716]

Other than survivors of the tyrant dynasty and the Oligocene harvest, what other creatures inhabit the eastern continent?

[@TalesofKaimere]

That makes up the majority of the cast. A few more recent migrants from the known world but not much.

[@FatFish7600]

This is good! Random question: 1.are there any Non Titanosaur sauropod outside the known world? 2. What will happen if a great dying level mass extinction happens? 3.What kind of monstrosity lurks after permian dynasty? 4.What are the Apex predator in permian dynasty and first dynasty? 5.What happened to Nautiloids and Ammonoids?

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. The polar continent has dicraeosaurids, but that's probably it. 2. That would be a whole other project. If the portal worked normally, probably would pick a spot on Earth and have modern megafauna be harvested, but since there are so few left on Earth that would be not so great. 3. Got a few islands with surviving descendants. 4. Each continent had their own, but gorgonopsids were top dogs in the known world. 5. Got plans for survivors of both.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere There already some arts from you who show generic looking Ammonites ! In fact, Nautiloids, Ammonoids, Belemites and all others kinds of Cephalopodes on Kaimere must have a pretty strong diversity since they are truly adaptable animals ! Also, you already establish since a long time that there is a permian Island where most of the Permian Island inhabitant progenies lived and represent most of this Australian inspired continent's fauna !

[@taylorlynch7410]

Question: Does the Kaimeran Unicorn uses it's long horn for display or as a weapon like a Rhino?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Primarily for display. As a weapon it can’t thrust, but can be used to strike and shove

[@redlycan5064]

How has the introduction of antelope and gazelles from the African harvest effected pronghorn in the known World?

[@MrT_Rex]

10:15 magnificent

[@kevinrhodes5497]

Can you make a video about the Firebirds next Tuesday

[@TalesofKaimere]

At the moment the schedule is filled with sponsored episodes so unless someone sponsors a Firebird episode it’s not on the table on the immediate docket

[@the_chosen_one5642]

LETS GO GIRAFFE TIME

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah!

[@SaintBigfoot]

It wasn’t until I watched this video that I learned Pronghorns are related to giraffes

[@dudotolivier6363]

Random Question : How migratory animals do on Kaimere ? Because when they are harvested and introduce on Kaimere, species like ungulates such Wildebeest, Reindeer, or any migratory flying birds (swam, geese, duck, cranes for ex) must be completely lost since they are in a complete different planet with any geological reference ! On earth, every migratory animals who migrate to pass winter in warm countries and return in the start regions at spring to reproduce and vice versa take ancestrals ways that becomes imprint on their instincts, and strongly deep in these laters. These ancestrals instincts, made and use since million of years are useless and disadvantageous when individuals are introduced to Kaimere.

[@TalesofKaimere]

For some, they are able to adapt. For others, it has resulted in their extinction.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@TalesofKaimere Thank for the anwser ! For the species I mentionned, they are all very adaptable specie, so at least there must be a reasonable number of representatives on Kaimere. Wildebeest, Reindeer are already on Kaimere thus at least !

[@loisonnut]

Just to check, what's coming next after the domesticated lions?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Undetermined

[@FatFish7600]

Bovid?Mosasaur?Pterosaur? or something we don't know?

[@TheGreatAuk]

gotta be one of my favorite animal groups besides rhinos

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah! They’re so cool

[@MrT_Rex]

Oh yeah, that's right. We didn't talk about Bruno... I mean Giraffoids😅🦒 And I forget that pronghorn was related to giraffe. Thanks for the reminder

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely!!

[@draim5956]

Is there going to be a field guide book of animal

[@TalesofKaimere]

Eventually yes. Is a project Im working on.

[@draim5956]

Are cheetah going to be in there

[@draim5956]

How many animals in Kaimere

[@brandonloe6232]

I’m sure you’ve mentioned it in previous videos, but when did the tyrant dynastic extinction occur? I was surprised to hear that titanosaurs reconquered the Known World twelve million years ago.

[@Andrey.Ivanov]

The dynastic extinction was around 15 million years ago

[@BigBossMan538]

So if giraffes 🦒 were brought to Kaimere, they weren’t able to establish themselves? I imagine megaraptors can make short work of them

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yes indeed. They have a pretty specialized diet of plants that were not present, and the resident trees already had specialized browsers that they were in no position to outcompete. Combine that with numerous predators they were not equipped to handle, and they unfortunately didn’t have much of a chance

[@BigBossMan538]

@@TalesofKaimere a shame that. They’re one of my favorite animals. But that doesn’t cut the mustard on Kaimere

[@draim5956]

is the cheetha comeing back soon in some video let me know okay and can we be freand

[@skistorm739]

Any plans for some floral/fauna return, diversity?

[@TalesofKaimere]

I don't understand the question.

[@skistorm739]

@@TalesofKaimere you, said biome diversity decreased, some way to increase it

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@skistorm739 Kaimere is full of high diversity already ! There any decrease in any kind of way !

[@skistorm739]

@@dudotolivier6363 he, does plot twist you know? Never know

[@OviraptorFan]

With it comes to the houze prairie, do the local pronghorns get hunted by Uktan? If so, is this mainly subadults? Hm, did true giraffes get introduced from the Pleistocene harvest, only to then die out in Kaimere? If so, what were the main causes of their demise, was it the titanosaurs or the giant mega theropods?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Uktan don’t usually target pronghorns. They can outpace them in endurance but other ungulates are much easier to do so since pronghorns can maintain speeds much faster than the uktan for a much longer time than say horses

[@TalesofKaimere]

Giraffes were done in by a combination of lack of food, predation, and competition with the ghlanos, Megaloceros, and giant pronghorn.

[@seanessdracosaurus2793]

Hey dude Remember me Btw wanna hear if the sprinting clades of the biodome Allow with the giraffes

[@TalesofKaimere]

Go for it!

[@ALLHEART_]

I've got an unrelated question for you, Keenan, if you don't mind. Do the calichotheres Kaimeran's use in war to tear down fortifications use their clawed front legs to do so? I imagine they do, yes? I second guessed myself because the varieties of chalicothere in the Known World of Kaimere are not of the knuckle-walking variety, so I was wondering if they had adequate degrees of being able to "rear up" for the task.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Great question! Short answer is a resounding yes! Ghlanos aren’t domesticated but can be tamed and were used by the Cha’Khati to open fortifications during their conquest since their power was in cavalry and having a few mobile grass-powered siege engine was invaluable.

[@TalesofKaimere]

They can tear up and their paws are great at pulling stuff down since the claws are semi-retractable and the weight is all on the columnar palms.

[@ALLHEART_]

@@TalesofKaimere Awesome. Thanks for the timely response. This will give me something to chew on. Gb.

[@ALLHEART_]

@@TalesofKaimere One more question: I know your depictions of the ghlanos shows them to have a mane, similar to a horse's. What evidence to we have the subject of the manedness or manelessness of such creatures?

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@ALLHEART_ There's no evidence for or against. I gave the mares a short zebra-like mane and stallions a longer horse-like mane as a speculative feature and also to artistically link them to horses (even though rhinos and tapirs are closer to them since they're classified in tapiromorpha).

[@tyreewadsworth1593]

I never knew pronghorn we're giraffe relatives

[@TalesofKaimere]

It's quite neat!

[@elshebactm6769]

🤠👍🏿

[@baeuy5019]

Are there any true giraffes in kaimere

[@TalesofKaimere]

There are not.

[@draim5956]

What about giant cheetah can they survive

[@TalesofKaimere]

Probably not.

[@ryanchen1819]

I did some research and it turns out that it’s unlikely that giant cheetahs would be viable for Kaimere as there doesn’t seem to be any suitable habitats for them. Based on what I’ve found, acinonyx pardinensis lived in savannas similar to acinonyx jubatus and I couldn’t find any information that suggested that they lived highland habitats. (There was a species of American cheetah (miracinonyx is more closely related to cougars than to cheetahs) that lived in highland habitats but no American cheetahs coincided with any portals.) Also, they would still face competition from the veraset which is ecologically similar but better at caching their kills due to being better burrowers and the giant cheetahs would get bodied by the theropods and other felids as they are better climbers and are more robust.

[@draim5956]

What next

[@TalesofKaimere]

Next up is domesticated lions!

[@dudotolivier6363]

Dam ! All these commentary from you difficults to understand ! You are weird !

[@draim5956]

@@dudotolivier6363 oh nooo

[@draim5956]

List all animals that will not live in Kaimere

[@TalesofKaimere]

haha no that list is way too lol

[@draim5956]

IS CHEETHA COMING BACK WHAT OF ABOUT THE ARID DESTER THEY CAN SURVIER THERE PLESS ADD THEM OR ELSE PUMA NEED TO ADD

[@TalesofKaimere]

Sorry! Neither is gunna be on Kaimere.

[@draim5956]

Why cheetah need to evolve

[@draim5956]

What about other habits that

[@draim5956]

cheetha is going to come back ples because they never evole on earth pless i like the hynea like cheetha

[@draim5956]

The verset is cheetah like right

[@ryanchen1819]

It's ecologically similar but more robust and better burrowing capabilities.

[@FatFish7600]

Yep. Ecologically.