Squash: SJP Canary Wharf Classic 2020 - Quarter Final Roundup

[@alinaqvi2638]

Ghosal is giving very tough time to top guys for past few tournaments. Lots of cheers and good luck from a Pakistani squash fan.

[@pokerboy72]

Someone from Asia.. Lol

[@Godschild77786]

Love from across the imaginary border is 💯🙏🏽

[@russell.bishop]

And from the rest of us, I love watching Ghosal on court!

[@kamranaslam2183]

Thumbs up for Surav

[@gedofgont1006]

Ghosal is a model professional and a fine all round player.

[@PrashanthRaoNDZ]

Dessouky has done so well, especially his character has improved a ton, hope to see him break into top 5 real soon!

[@gedofgont1006]

He's still a little flaky when the pressure really comes on. You can see him struggling to hold it together.

[@gedofgont1006]

Have to agree, he's one of the best to watch, however.

[@Ajudge9]

Farag's retrieving skills are unmatched.

[@dboko]

He is retrieving impossible to get shots one after the other! What do you have to do to hit a winner against this guy!?

[@gedofgont1006]

His whole game is on another level, right now!

[@gurmohanjeetbevli8617]

I personally think the best of three format brought out some really excellent squash from everyone. I was at the edge of my seat through everything I watched, and I just watch the highlights! The best of 5 sometimes gets boring as players tend to slack off knowing they have opportunities to recover. This format is unforgiving. Look at what happened to Gawad. Ghosal BTW, is doing great. It might not be a stretch to say that he is likely the fittest sportsperson from India right now. I wish many of my fellow indians would take their eyes off the annoying cricketing drama and see how well many of our people are doing in other sports.

[@CheapHomeTech]

Best of three certainly encourages exhibition mode.

[@oliverkerr5620]

it’s quite a shame that dessouky cramped because it was an excellent match between the two

[@thieribalk7351]

It's not a cramp. It's not a cramp!!!

[@WillieMaze]

Referee (from the crowd): "I can clearly see it's a cramp!" LOL, he should seriously switch jobs and become a doctor if he's that good!

[@gedofgont1006]

@@WillieMaze It was cramp, though, right?

[@niomendes6774]

Nick Hill not a cramp even the PSA physio therapist in his reported said it was not a cramp

[@gedofgont1006]

@@niomendes6774 That's a real shame then, cos Fares might have won that game.

[@EzekielGamingHD]

You can tell the man at 2:00 loves to play a reverse boast by the grin on his face

[@richardung_5683]

u play squash?

[@tosh_834]

This is the second occasion in recent times Sourav came very close to snatching a victory over Shorbagy. Soon, hopefully

[@jj9749]

Best of 3 format is awesome, the standard of squash is next level

[@Kishgofu]

im gutted for dessouky. it's amazing to see him back on the tour and playing better than i've seen him. hope he gets the help he needs for nutrition to avoid the cramps.

[@richardung_5683]

it wasn't a cramp. he was feeling really tight and overoaded in the hamstring and he stopped to check it and the ref said it was a cramp and gave a conduct game against him even tho it wasnt a cramp

[@EL2FIKY]

Dessoki definitely deserves his new title: “mr fantastic “

[@michelinman666]

Ghosal has been fantastic to watch during this tournament. The post match interview with Shorbagy is not on this highlights reel, but he was basically having a go at the crowd for 'booing' him, and showing 'disrespect' to players. I was there, and the only time the crowd voiced any dissent was when he was engaging in some blatant timewasting and gamesmanship during a critical point in the last game (Ghosal was also appealing to the referee about it at the time). As one of the crowd shouted back at him during his interview 'we weren't booing you, we were booing the shenanigans'. I love watching Shorbagy even if he isnt the most likeable player, but I found his comments last night to be misjudged. They both got a standing ovation at the end of the match FFS.

[@BurgerGangTV]

Shorbagy is so dislikeable.... such a perfect ambassador for Redbull...

[@jj9749]

Maybe he would prefer the Egyptian library atmosphere

[@gedofgont1006]

Elshorbagy acts like he believes he should be number 1 because of who he is, not because of his squash. I like watching him play because of the chance he'll be rolled over by someone he clearly thinks is beneath him. Farag is an altogether classier act and a better player to boot.

[@Engmazzouz]

I wish I can like this video 1000 times

[@jakobdonskov]

This is some quality commentating along with quality squash. So entertaining. Keep it up, guys!

[@the_luggage]

Seems absurdly draconian not to give a player an injury timeout for cramp. Not the referee's fault, he has to follow the rules, but I'd suggest the rules need changing. We've all been denied seeing a potentially great third game here...

[@joshwhite3339]

Their reasoning is that cramps are a result of "a lack of conditioning", so it'd be unfair to your opponent who has put in the work to tire you out to the point your muscles are cramping, to give you a break and rest up. The problem with this is that muscle cramps are kind of a weird, poorly understood phenomenon to an extent. It's hard to pin down exactly what causes them, things like electrolyte imbalances are thought to be a cause, but there are plenty of examples of people getting cramps for no discernible reason. Seems unfair to just assume that the cramp is occurring due to a lack of conditioning, when it certainly seems like there could be different underlying causes

[@ewallt]

It wouldn’t have mattered as he’d only get 3 minutes, not enough time to deal with a cramp.

[@Sam-zq4yx]

I agree, although players can fake cramps quite easily just to get a timeout at an important moment

[@dboko]

@@joshwhite3339 Especially in a best out of 3!

[@FDeroo]

@@Sam-zq4yx They can as easily fake torn ankle or muscle injury. We've seen breaks for players falling hard on the floor quite often. I don't really like the reasoning behind "Cramps = bad conditioning" because that can be said for a lot of muscle injuries, but only cramps avail no timeouts.

[@SoundHumility]

Faraq trains at high speeds on court... I can see how he is able to retrieve... Dessouky is the only one that can keep up with him and Mohammed and also Mormen has a chance of beating him but as not sure elshobagy is fit enough to beat him now.... his the fittest in Squash at the moment and the best mover

[@DG-qv8ge]

"it's not a cramp" while cramping to death 🤣

[@uetel1120]

Why is this tournament the best of 3games match?

[@essexa777]

Dessouky looking very good, shame about injury but i think he was on to beat Faraq, lucky boy Ali! third game 2-1 you can clearly see he pulled a muscle on lunge!

[@choogengnian2799]

ghosal is awesome

[@michelinman666]

And another thing, Farag complaining about crowd noise was not aimed at the majority there watching, but the top balcony of lagered up city boys just there to get pissed and pay zero attention to the game!

[@gautamanyt]

What's this about? I missed this in the recordings.

[@gedofgont1006]

You'll always get those types at big events. They're like flies on dog shit; they just can't help themselves!

[@RobCaulk]

did the video quality go up during this tournament?

[@squashtv]

We’re using a slightly different kit than we usually do. We had a few teething issues on day one, but hopefully all looking good now :)

[@gedofgont1006]

@@squashtv Coverage from the quarters onwards has been top notch!👍🍻

[@ismailbarrada68]

Mr fantastic :))))

[@raps55]

I dont know who to support...Saurabh Ghosal is from my country but Shorbagy is my idol😅

[@tomp2785]

Best of three in the quarter finals. What a crock.

[@cookesam6]

13:32 the signature shot from marwan.... a regular hit followed by intended interference

[@thatellipsisguy8984]

sam urai 12:15 for me, especially after he hit Mosaad...

[@CheapHomeTech]

You are suffering from socially induced cognitive bias.

[@M0odez]

13:55 exact same shot from Lobban complete with a full shut-out? Notice Marwan realises it's a loose shot fairly punished and moves on without a word.

[@CheapHomeTech]

@sam urai "13:32 the signature shot from marwan.... a regular hit followed by intended interference" Two issues that stand out. 1. When your opponent hits something to the center of the court so you don't have to leave the T do you have to clear the T without delay after hitting your winner? 2. If this is Marwan's signature shot does that mean Marwan dominates the game so much so that he is often hitting the ball from the T for winners?

[@stevehughes1510]

I think in the last tournament Mohamed El Shorbagy was allowed a 3 minute break without an injury whatsoever........bad luck for Dessouky this time around that he didn't have the same referee...........it's a little simplistic to say that I know but we've seen some very questionable refereeing just lately on the tour.

[@gedofgont1006]

I don't whether you spotted it too, but Fares briefly clutched his thigh after a lunge in the front right corner, a point or two before going down on the floor. He should have 'done an Elshorbagy' then and asked for an injury time out. A fit and properly conditioned Dessouky might well have taken that final game. Tough call for the ref too.

[@stevehughes1510]

@@gedofgont1006 Thanks for that Nick I didn't see Fares clutch his thigh. Yes it is tough for the refs with the players when injuries happen...….on it goes one way or the other, but that El Shorbagy thing the other week was a shocker...…..no interference whatsoever form his opponent(can't remember who it was unfortunately) and even with the replays the ref gave him a 3 minute injury break...…..I laughed and laughed, made a complete mockery of the rules. A prime example of a player conning the ref.

[@fern6114]

They drink beer in the crouwd I love that sport... but the door jesus Great olympical sport !!

[@dzulazmimutalib7226]

Farag sure glad dessouky was injured. He struggles through out the match with dessoukys strength, pace and game pattern. So not like farag just standing there watching his opponent on the ground suffering.

[@CheapHomeTech]

Marwan was very disappointing. I was so hoping he would make Loban make all sorts of noises.

[@alric8]

Is the sound delayed at some points or am I tripping?

[@jimmorrison4291]

I was tripping and the sound seemed fine, although that unicorn was getting on my tits.

[@thatellipsisguy8984]

Jim Morrison it’s there for all Lobban's games, you should be used to it by now...

[@CheapHomeTech]

@@jimmorrison4291 Wish I spoke your language and understood "that unicorn was getting on my tits". In the meantime I'll go listen to the Doors when music was real: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaWrgaamncxsrsU

[@MattMarshallUK]

@@jimmorrison4291 Name checks out

[@hamaja18]

Canary Wharf - Men Tournament (an historic one): Best of 3 games. CIB Black Ball - Women Tournament (Parallel tournament of Canary Wharf tournament) : Best of 5 games. I think something is wrong...

[@CheapHomeTech]

Oh, so Canary is men only and CIB is women only. Did not know that it was a parity thing. Guess totally not a parity thing due to the best of # thing.

[@hamaja18]

@@CheapHomeTech What? I only want all tournaments to be ''best of 5 games'' I don't care if it is played by men or women. Anyway, men have better physical condition that women. It is biologic, i'm sorry.

[@CheapHomeTech]

@@hamaja18 Yeah, but I commented earlier on another thread about how sexist it was to be having a woman's only tournament. I didn't realize this was a men's only tournament. That both of them are played at the same time probably on purpose. I personally don't watch women play because I'm in it looking for inspiration. As you rightly pointed out women just don't have the physical ability. That's why all the top world running records and such are all much faster on the mens side. I prefer the best of five. With a day rest between matches so the older more gifted players can still compete.

[@ahmedyoussef4147]

@@CheapHomeTech no man cib black ball is womena and men and cib black ball men is in december

[@CheapHomeTech]

@@ahmedyoussef4147 Thank you. I should learn more about what matches are what so I don't waste everybody's time.

[@souLNostia]

Might well have looked like cramp, but we don't know, simple as that.

[@essexa777]

we do know it was not cramp did nobody see it at 2-1 third game , the lunge pulled a muscle in back of leg, watch it

[@tomg2578]

I don't understand why he couldn't claim 3 min injury time out??

[@sportseditzzz4529]

tom g I think because if it was a cramp you have to continue you can’t take a break.

[@simonbernhardt4982]

Yeah, cramp isn't considered an injury so no injury break.. quite silly

[@abdiver12]

Does anyone know why Mohamed El Shorbagy won't be playing in any Egyptian events in the coming months?

[@Sam-zq4yx]

Military conscription

[@abdiver12]

@Ryan Kim1 I see, thanks. I wonder why he's the only Egyptian player doing this and if this will prevent him from returning to Egypt for the rest of his life.

[@arawyn9974]

@@abdiver12 just until he turns 30 not for the rest of his life

[@abdiver12]

@@arawyn9974 Oh I see, thanks! I can't say I blame him.

[@kenyanexpat]

Did Farag serve in the military?

[@thatellipsisguy8984]

Why is Sarah-Jane Perry sponsoring this event? Would’ve thought she’d at least support a women's tournament...

[@CheapHomeTech]

She likes to see matches that will inspire her?

[@CheapHomeTech]

Elias was complaining about Momen taking such wide stances. One foot practically on the T and the other in the corner basically blocking Elias from getting to the ball. Sure many top players like The General and Beast have done this when they needed to squeeze a few unfair points but it does not make it right. Unfortunately the judge and commentators don't see the obvious that Elias was pointing out.

[@TheHilarious91]

Nevertheless his shots were too loose and the opponent earn the right to take space

[@CheapHomeTech]

@@TheHilarious91 It's a grAy point. When a player plants his feet far apart and doesn't clear out immediately so his opponent would have to damage him it's not right. Some players never do that crap and always keep their feet together. Others, many world number ones, keep their feet together unless the points are crucial and then they start spreading them taking up space for far too long daring their opponent to hit them. Like Momen did. Elias was perturbed because he did not want to get involved in that type of crap. Unfortunately most people don't even recognize this style of trickery.

[@gedofgont1006]

@@CheapHomeTech It's not trickery or gamesmanship, on Momen's part! He's perfectly entitled to play his shots in any way he likes. He plays many shots low down, from a wide base; that's his style. It's up to the opponent to work out his own way of countering. Elias didn't like it because he was being outplayed, that's all. The non-Egyptians need to get wise and toughen up, like Coll has done and Makin is starting to do.

[@CheapHomeTech]

@@gedofgont1006 The toughen up solution here is to come to physical blows. Plow through your opponent. Hit him with the ball. Hit him with the follow through of the racket. Perhaps all three. Normally Momen is just like Elias. That is damn fast and clean. Momen is obviously having a hard time. Very rare for him. It looks like he resorted to this tactic and then quickly quit doing it. Coll and Makin are certainly tough. I think there are many very tough players though. Court awareness that Gawad and Farag show give you more bang for your buck though.

[@gedofgont1006]

@@CheapHomeTech Yes, the Egyptians seem to have just that bit more guile and court craft generally. Remind me never to come and play at your club!!😂

[@thetruthwillsetyoufree9209]

The way Shorbagy played the man and not the ball is unworthy of a No 1.

[@fredoavec10o]

Well, his brother is not number 1 but he is used to as well lol. family affair :)

[@kennyg1358]

I think just a misread in the moment. I don't recall seeing that kind of thing from him before.

[@oggie01329]

Who did Momen beat in the previous round?

[@remcovandijk279]

Selby.

[@robeybryant]

Have to say, I hate seeing Marwan playing.. hitting mosaad in the last round, then nearly hitting lobban this round. He really has no class

[@CheapHomeTech]

He's one of the cleanest players there ever was. Don't be one of the lemmings. Stand tall, don't listen to the herd, and try to judge him fairly.

[@famkee]

@@CheapHomeTech You must be living in the world of dreams.

[@CheapHomeTech]

@@famkee There is certainly a group out there that dislikes Marwan. Hates him actually. I haven't seen what started it. However, I see these people constantly harping on him now when he is the one who is playing more cleanly than his opponents. If you have a clip of something that will prove me wrong I'm up for learning. I make lots of mistakes. I suspect though I'll be the one teaching though. Please prove me wrong!

[@petereedy6092]

As a former professional referee, I would have stopped play at 12:15 and cautioned Marwan for dangerous play (Rule 8.13.4 When the striker turns, the Referee must always consider whether the action was dangerous and rule accordingly") I know these players have great control, but for me that was a dangerous (and probably intimidatory) shot

[@CheapHomeTech]

@@petereedy6092 "8.13.4 When the striker turns, the Referee must always consider whether the action was dangerous and rule accordingly." I saw Lobban hit the ball to the center and realize it was a blunder and then he stayed out of the triangle to the front wall. Marwan did not take advantage of this and do anything dirty. He played clean and hit the front wall directly. Now follow yesterday's game. Same scenario but Marwan's opponent played dirty. Here I would have stopped the game and strongly cautioned Mosaad for dangerous play. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYLVdGiApq6Ej5Y Notice however the crowd did not make any noise. The double standards and hatred towards Marwan disgusts me but people like robeybryant are blind to it.

[@CheapHomeTech]

Why didn't Dessouky ask for three minute medical?

[@tan116A]

It is shameful. The referee should NEVER debate a player about his own body, or tell him what injury he has. Doesn't matter if it's a cramp or not. If a player says he needs medical attention, you gotta give him that. And yes, it could have been a cramp, I am not denying that. Dessouky could be lying. But if the refs are given so much liberty, a time will come when a player has a legit injury and the referee's annoying argument can prove to be costly. Better to allow the players a benefit of doubt than to tell them what their own body is feeling. I don't need to add that such arguments between a match makes the ref look very petty and it is just not a good experience for any viewer, in the audience or on KZbin.

[@Benj-p5w]

fed up with only egyptians...at least i hope new faces will show up more often like Dessouky...i dont like farag s fake modesty

[@squashoe]

2 comments. #1 can anyone confirm it was a cramp? I really hope so as I really like his game. #2 best of 3 changes the game. I think the attrition is one of the things that sets squash apart and makes it so great....I’m not a fan of 3 games