SS14 - Zombies Explained

[@Liltenhead]

I randomly realized today that I never covered how zombies work.

[@DylanLamont]

Thanks

[@cainprescott4937]

Well, now you have.

[@Alkair7]

you forgot to add you can pry open any door as a zombie

[@Clown_the_Clown]

It's so dumb you drop your headset now. It used to be that once a bunch of people were infected you'd hear a bunch of "Uuuuuuuugh..." on the radio. It was really funny.

[@Archangelm127]

I agree it was funny, but I think this is better. Helps prevent metagaming.

[@VirtualKota]

For roleplay reasons I like to think the "virus" is the reason your character starts preparing for something, putting yourself in strategic areas, etc. It's kind of insane that a virus has gotten that advanced, but it IS the future, and the virus might even be a bioweapon itself.

[@MehnixIsThatGuy]

Not unreasonable, in real life the Cordiceps fungus can effectively mind control insects to get them in the ideal positions to spread its spores for after it has killed them. (Well, it technically just puppets them i think, which may be worse).

[@batman6429]

reminds me of the chrono legionaires from ss13, they come from the future, sent by nanotransen to eliminate something that's a major threat to the timeline.. but i think the virus doesnt fit in that category hahah

[@otaku2082]

It's pretty logical, actually. Many common deseases that we have today trick your nervous system into preventing virus from being exposed to bad conditions and/or helping it to be spread as efficiently as possible (like fear of water with rabies). We could just tell that virus awakes a deep sense of emergency in target, forcing it to collect equipment and be in certain spots. Eventually, the subjects becomes severely paranoid and aggressive towards other people, usually right before complete transformation. Yeah . . . Here's a little rant for yee.

[@noelka8134]

​@@MehnixIsThatGuyyup, that's not mind control, that's body control, and mind os probably still there untill the end. Though it's not like ants are very intelegent and/or self-aware.

[@shroomer3867]

Toxoplasma gondii makes mice not perceive cats as threats and actually makes them incentivized to come towards them. This is because the target is the cat where the infection can grow. Humans infected with Toxoplasma gondii display higher signs of entrepreneurship, and the correlation P value in the studies indicated that it was not a coincidence. In other words, it is definetly possible for a disease to directly influence your behavior, in lesser quantities in humans, but with time it is safe to assume that more severe and controlling diseases like the one in the game could be a non-zero chance of ocurring, of course it'd be small for it hit everything to make a zombie, but still...

[@alasdairsinclair916]

There is forth way for zombies to spawn. Artifacts. My first RD round was on a station with 3 people. And I got turned into an initial infected by the artifact I was working on. I was like "it's just not sporting with this few people." So I set sci's doors to emergency access, locked myself in one of the artifact testing chambers, and told QM to buy a laser gun. When they showed up, I told them what happened, and turned. As planned, they took me out before I could break down the door. It was a nice little RP moment, but poor QM spent the rest of the round trying to research cloning so they could try to bring me back.

[@Liltenhead]

wait what, that's a real thing?

[@nonagon9192]

​@Liltenhead ive also seen foam events have the zombie chem more then once

[@alasdairsinclair916]

@@Liltenhead If it was higher pop, I would have loved to try and re-trigger the arti in a crowd of people. It was quite the introduction to RD for me, including the fact that I late joined into sci's doors being hacked and electrocuted because an ice anom spawned in med and no one else had access to the APEs.

[@ДИО-т4ы]

If you fill a zombie with cognizin, it will be able to speak

[@ДИО-т4ы]

5 units will be enough

[@kyokonull]

"you get ambuzol but no ambuzol plus" he says, hovering over ambuzol plus nice video as always. ive seen zombies maybe 3 times in 80+ hours so far so it's neat to know more about them

[@fernando47180]

yeaaahh... yeah, it happens

[@veziusthethird]

the most useful tool for a zombie is the fake death action when you're crit on the ground, since it displays that your eyes are dead and lifeless people think you're actually dead but you're still in crit so you get back up and can catch them off guard REALLY easily. I was a zombie during a round one time and i got back up THREE TIMES against the same people who kept falling for it. Very overpowered.

[@noelka8134]

In my experience everyone just continues to kick zombie even after they're dead. Now i understand why they're doing this, lol.

[@foob916]

Actually, it is possible to bring a player back into their human form after they're zombified, you just need to clone their zombified corpse.

[@Liltenhead]

Cloning basically doesn't exist. And if a zombie outbreak is bad the round is pretty much guaranteed over.

[@Ilya_Abitov]

Zombies can open airlocks with alt+click

[@Liltenhead]

Oh yeah I forgot about prying.

[@andrewgreeb916]

Yeah it's very useful if you are a lone zombie, in a group many zombies can tear down doors faster

[@mikakuhn958]

The Zombie kit contains one ambuzol plus pill and three ambuzol pills.

[@Liltenhead]

You are correct, I missed the plus pill.

[@Pascij]

Once i was infected, i got to medical for treatment, and there were so many dead body cause of an accident by a gas leak, i turned, imidiatly got the dead captain and the others, we formed a 10+ zombie army olin secounds, we overrun the station in less then 10 min, awesome luck. XD Some people were impressed, others got super angry and sayed "zombies are the worst gametyp". I personally think its super fun if both partys play it good.

[@Arandomhunter]

Fun tip for initial infected players: The key to winning is both reflective vests and speed boots. Lasers are the primary way of taking you down, so being able to sidestep that is very powerful, and speedboots will help a LOT when you need to close the gap to infect somebody, considering how slow you are and how usually they can just walk backwards and shoot at you easily when your numbers are too low.

[@ps3moira]

Power gaming? Never heard of the term

[@Arandomhunter]

@@ps3moira you’re the initial infected, it legitimately tells you to prepare.

[@Arandomhunter]

@@ps3moiraIt’s initial infected. It tells you to prepare and gather resources. This is just the most effective way to do it.

[@creatorbot0056]

Remind me of one round of zombie. Apparently once a paramed enter chem with me and one sleepy chem. And barricade the main door. It prob be good to assume he a zombie cause he turn next to me and bite me. But manage to run away to maint and come back to make antidote. Praise dylo to slow down infections.

[@taagoallas3336]

Brainsss...

[@NalyKalZul]

Captain, no brains..... said local clown.

[@fernando47180]

Shoesss...

[@kyokonull]

Liiiight...

[@sadhoovy2740]

Woah just noticed that around 0:48 you get a text popup mentioning that "You feel entirely alone"

[@шарнирус]

what does this popup mean?

[@BattleToast32]

Ahh, zombie rounds some of my favourite, I love running around and away from the hordes, plus barricading yourself and holding out till death is fun. There were also a few times where I faked death, got up, and infected three people before dying, which resulted in two turning in front of no one and spreading further.

[@notloopers1110]

something that confuses me is what is the LORE reason why the hell people who know they are infected are trying to cause chaos to doom the station instead of getting the treatment for their infection

[@Liltenhead]

I think the "lore" is something akin to unitology in dead space.

[@Volcano22207]

@@Liltenheador cordiceps like simtoms

[@awdsqe123]

I like to imagine that they are sent as living bio-weapons, sacrificing their lives to annihilate the station.

[@Clone0401]

very very small thing, zombie blood is not the only necrotic reagent, both romerol and necrosol have the necrotic descriptor but the chances of those just lying on the ground is pretty damn rare with how expensive those reagents are

[@urlrighthere]

Doesn't know for sure but I saw nukies hypo most of the crew undercover. I assume you could mix romerol with water to get more romerol

[@Jackrost01]

I have one round as infected enginear. I and two others persons go to corridor into small room with AME. They both start construction and I have devil plan. I quickly setup AME in such patern that it become maze and transform. They both don't have a chance to run from quickly. Than whole engi section was fallen very quickly.

[@luggyschmuggy]

i wish melee with zombies would work though melee is just not an option when you are a human lol

[@Jedai_Games]

I wish 90% of any threat on station can't be countered by cargo launching half of the crew to space and waiting.

[@Yushe_]

I became an initial infected for the first time a couple of days ago and it went incredibly poorly because the majority of the other initials decided to turn into zombies in the brig/attack the brig. So obviously they all died because security has all the weapons to deal with them so I just panicked and decided to infect all 3 of chef's cows, Alexander and then attacked botany which I got two people. But it was too late at that point security was too high on alert and we were cornered fast.

[@NalyKalZul]

You: I don't need to explain.. zombies. Me: which kind. Original dawn of the slow walkers? Or the world war z tidal wave ones. Perhaps the more british movie depicted zombies, who even bij resident evil variants. Are goddamm the flash like in termd of speed and agility and superman strong to run though most obestacles. When your concrete bunker, is paper to them. Like there are some flavors you really dont want meet. Like It smells your fear leaking out of your tiny space station, due its reality bending supersenses. And leaps of nearby planet, to crack that spaced lunchbox that though they be safe up there.

[@Volcano22207]

First infected hideing makes realistic sense considering the closest thing we have is cordasepes

[@agostonpahi3816]

also you can turn critters to zombies, sooo if you are on cargo buy a fuckton of monkeyboxes kill them put the corpses in a box bring em back to the station and turn them all to zombies

[@SlippedZ]

This gives me a good idea to do during chem. (also you can make remoral! It is surprisingly easy and can be used in a foam bomb. Just saying)

[@Arraydeess]

I believe injecting initial infected blood into someone doesn’t give them the virus sadly. I was an I.I. doctor and was trying to infect people that way.

[@CrazzyJ-iw5rc]

I dont know if this has been patched, but zombies can feign death while in crit just like the living. Might be an exploit, but I used it once to spook the hell out of a secoff. Only really works once though, they usually magdump you after you get up again XD

[@ScopedogTC]

I once revived like 4 times by faking death as an infected sec dog. It was dark, so nobody would see me until it was too late.

[@SkyTheAvali]

Can't you revive a zombie back into a player via cloning?

[@Liltenhead]

Yes but cloning basically doesn't exist.

[@cainprescott4937]

(read: it technically exists, but as it is right now you're not going to see it in the course of most regular rounds)

[@SkyTheAvali]

Frontier and Delta-V both have cloning , id imagine most servers or at least a good chuck would@@Liltenhead @CainPrescott4937

[@rubles3143]

They really need to buff zombies, they're so incredibly weak, have yet to see them win more than once or twice. Once security catches wind of zombies and spots one, it's game over for zombies. Security will arm themselves to the eyeballs in guns and bullets, and stand in riot shield lines mowing them down. Zombies need to be able to resurrect from the dead, or spread disease easier. My bet is infect easier AND resurrect if not damaged enough. Maybe make it so being on zombie blood, ingesting it, or being right next to one for too long (when not on internals) will spread the infection. And before you say it: Yes I know initial infected are supposed to sabotage and kill BEFORE turning, BUT this never happens. There's always gonna be someone else who gets initial infected and just immediately pops it in the kitchen or something, taking a couple people down before having everyone get shredded by Security, ruining everything.

[@ScopedogTC]

Medbay is the best for those sudden zombie outbreaks. Blackouts too. Things ramp up too quickly and no one can respond quickly enough.

[@sentinel-wraith9060]

If you were to theoretically inject somebody with zombie blood from the floor, would it infect them in SS14?

[@Liltenhead]

no

[@Archangelm127]

@@Liltenhead Working Jani, I was told that mopping it up without the Jani biosuit on would infect me. Was that correct?

[@ekkosangen]

@@Archangelm127 It would be good RP to get the biosuit, but zombie blood doesn't have the CauseZombieInfection effect which means you won't be infected if you get the blood on you (or even if you ingest it)

[@Archangelm127]

@@ekkosangenThanks! I'll use that to freak some people out. ;)

[@cainprescott4937]

Do note that while it will not infect you, ingesting it WILL deal Toxin damage.

[@АлександрПропусков]

Hello, can you tell how can i spawn zomvie AI? I'm administrator at my local server

[@shauntexas6964]

very useful information in this

[@Medic.2]

how to create?

[@enverpasa8567]

Can ya make a video about how to make a working non-shittle shuttle with atmos and everything?

[@Jedai_Games]

I think it have not so much sence, because 90% of engineers any ways will build shittles.

[@Archangelm127]

@@Jedai_Games In my experience it's cargo that builds shuttles. I mainly work Engi and I've never seen anyone do it.

[@Jedai_Games]

@@Archangelm127 what about shift task?

[@Archangelm127]

@@Jedai_Games I have no idea what you're referring to. As far as I'm aware, Engi's job is: 1. Get power up 2. Get air distro flowing and waste venting 3. Fix shit around the station as it gets broken by antags, greytide, and Sci. 4. (Optional) Get bored and turn our break room into a bar.

[@Jedai_Games]

@@Archangelm127 that funny paper with green stamp from Central Command that said that you should build a shuttle... It one of three possible variants, other beings artifacts and zoo.

[@quietwhisper]

Ok but why not just syringe the blood out of the body Okay maybe bleeding the body is a bit faster I take that back

[@Liltenhead]

Syringe's should probably have a doafter for sucking up liquids from the floor. It's too fast.

[@quietwhisper]

@@Liltenhead I've been using a syringe and bucket to clean potassium puddles in science lol

[@donk8961]

I kinda like zombs, the only thing that grinds my gears is how much some people care about “winning.” Spacing Evac, attacking shuttle control consoles, or even attacking plasma canisters. I get trying to do good, weaving to avoid shots and even taking cover, but using meta-knowledge to rush down escape pods is pussy ego-gamer shit. They’re making the whole round boring by not chasing survivors.

[@Doktor930]

Can you explain how improvised shotguns work?

[@Acoyph]

Can't do anything with them anyway? They can be cloned. Edit: I played a round on DeltaV where we had early zombies and most people got cloned back.

[@Liltenhead]

Cloning doesn't exist in 99% of wizden rounds. And it certainly wont exist on an initial infected round since the zombies already would have started long before salv can get all of the parts.

[@elliottprehn6342]

Babe wake up new zombie tutorial just dropped 💀 I remember when zombies was 25% likely and people would preemptively riot

[@Tory-JJ]

BUT THEY CAN'T WHAT!? CAN'T WHAT!

[@My_Wizard]

I am a surgeon

[@agustron2479]

The zombies are the worst antag. OH WELL WE START A NEW SHIFT, OH BOY THIS WILL BE FUN. OH shit that is a zombie, AH NO NO, fuck well now im a zombie,okay soo lets infe- WTF CAN I DO TO A MAN WITH A FUCKING SMG THAT DOWNS ME IN 2 SECONDS?!. Yep its time to go other server

[@YTDeletes90PercentOfMyComments]

Have you never played a zombie game with player controllable infected? It's kind of fun being an "extra" to a story and your real strength is your metaknowlege, however for some reason metagaming as a zombie is frowned upon in ss14 (ie chewing on generators).

[@88b13]

I liked OLD overpowered zombies

[@cfif126]

мазгии..

[@Werddrewtv]

What is this like Day 96 or 97 of asking Liltenhead to unban me in his comments

[@sean7221]

STAY BANNED FOREVER!

[@VirtualKota]

Stop begging lol

[@Werddrewtv]

@@VirtualKotaCheck day 73

[@SnaxMang]

Am I missing something? We can see you.