St. Vincent Breaks Down Rock N' Roll Subgenres | Audible

[@kimmorgan379]

Shout out to Sister Rosetta Tharpe! Definitely one of the coolest rock guitarists. She blazed a trail...

[@Sandpiper1893]

I waited long enough to hear her take on Punk Rock. She was on point. The bands she mentioned were before her time. Just shows she is well-versed and in tune with her craft. Huge props.

[@dms8504]

Hmmm i disagree there i think that one she got slightly wrong in her timing and bands. Punk really began mid-70s or arguably before depending on what you classify as ‘punk’. Also she mentioned more hardcore bands than punk.

[@machinesworking]

Sure, punk is simple, hot take. There were plenty of complex punk bands and simple metal bands, and folk bands with stupid lyrics.

[@lasjok3r97]

​@dms8504 She's not off, that was and is the birth of punk as a genre. 60s garage rock from Louie Louie to the MC5 is proto punk. History will remember it from the movement that came after. Just like most metal heads will claim it started with maiden and metallica, but the virtuoso-style heavy blues style we've come to know as metal had been around for years.

[@paulfitz6614]

She's a beast, of course she has a ton of musical knowledge. Huge fan.

[@audible]

SO talented! 🎼 ✨

[@smelltheglove2038]

The fact she was “blown away” by the idea that you live rock and roll tells me she isn’t as knowledgeable about rock music as she pretends to be.

[@LordRykard9376]

​@@smelltheglove2038Complete idiots love her for some reason

[@JP51ism]

Annie is so eloquent & her speaking voice (aside from her singing voice) is so mellifluous.

[@audible]

She's so talented. 🧡

[@GrinGillis]

@@audibleat what? Certainly not music.

[@GrinGillis]

Unaudible that is what this woman should host. Her song are just that.

[@Project_2501]

@@GrinGillis Exactly! This comment section is just as clueless about what metal and rock'n'roll actually is as Annie herself. She claims she "lives rock'n'roll" but is a walking cliché of a pop artists with pseudo-opinions about metal, which everyone who truely lives rock and metal despises! Claiming metal would be "flirting with darkness and the occult" is just percfectly describing what pop is currently doing and at the same time not understanding that Metal is playing with darkness and the occult as a tool to shock and create awareness, not because they "flirt" with ot or actually believe in that stuff, it is a huge over-exaggeration. No member of Cannibal Corpse is actually into what sey singing about. Annie is an industry victim, nothing more.

[@guaitxican]

I love this woman so much

[@ottolettuce]

i need her to release a new album omg

[@equinox6690]

You excited for her new one??

[@hausu3163]

We did it

[@superE1113z]

Wish granted, my friend. 😄😃😉❤️👌🏾

[@williamfranz9872]

Yes! The trick is so many ideas have been visited. Originality is a challenge.

[@samansun]

What an intelligent, knowledgeable woman!

[@edzep11]

"Hot funk, cool punk, even if it's old junk. It's still rock and roll to me" - Billy Joel

[@audible]

🔥 🙌

[@diodelrio]

She is like a imaginary sister to me. Love her so much.

[@elizabethsnyder902]

Same

[@cheesecakelasagna]

A twin who's older than me. Idk how that even makes sense but it feels like it. 😅

[@gestapoid]

Her high intelligence is evident in her music and interviews. Looking forward to the new album!

[@audible]

🧡 🙌

[@no_wrong_notes]

I am the same age as Annie. When I was growing up I absorbed guitar playing into my world, it was everything, Nirvana songs ringing in my head. I only wish I would have made more clear goals, dreamed a little bigger and kept at it. She has earned every bit of her carved out position in Rock N' Roll and reaches masses. I have so much respect for St. Vincent and love her musicianship. She is definitely a living legend and I will definitely be going to another one of her live shows...the best!

[@jergervasi3331]

Great video. And she's such a nice, warm person in "real life", too. Love her.

[@ChromeDestiny]

"Rock should keep provoking the generation that came before. I'm not talking like breaking noses but yeah, make 'em throw up!" - Grace Slick

[@matthewoberton1830]

St. Vincent is Queen.

[@Handles_are_garbage]

You're thinking of Brian May

[@matthewoberton1830]

@@Handles_are_garbage No sir. Annie is the Queen of modern day rock and roll.

[@likearollingstone007]

I don’t believe in monarchy

[@midnight-2021]

The best guitarists in the last 10 years IMO are female. Anne Clark, with her alternate blend of so many genres in her music with her art experimental playing puts her as one of the top 3 recent guitarists. Samantha Fish is more traditional blues rock and she is a masterful guitarist, singer songwriter and IMO one of the 3 best newer guitarist in the last 10 years. Nita Strauss is the other top 3 guitarists with her great ability to shred the guitar with tons of notes like 80s guitarists EVH, Malmsteen, Satriani etc.

[@volpemarroneveloce5928]

i just love when she goes full nerdy

[@Vishnu6]

One of my favorite documentary series is the History of Rock n Roll

[@RobTackettCovers]

Annie brings up Jimi Hendrix Castles Made of Sand...I first heard that song when I was 6 years old in 1967...and there is this part in it that is right after the intro where he does this sliding around fade in at the beginning and then ends it on the root chord, but does a pull off from the 2 to the 1 (root) on the high E string (probably Eb string, though, because I think he had it tuned down 1/2 step)...then he hits these two same low notes, and for me, it always sounded like he went into some weird timing...until maybe about 4 or 5 years ago (I'm 62 now), I know why I felt like he did a weird time signature thing: it always felt like the two same pitch low notes started on the one, like 1 and...as in 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and, but then it came to me after all those years, it's just how he starts off the chorus...he sings "...and so castles made of sand...", when he sings "and so...", they are pick up notes...so it's 4 and 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and...so when I perceived that, I applied it to that intro, and found there is no weird time signature thing going on when he's playing that; It was how I was thinking it...I was thinking the two notes started on the one beat, but they start on the 4.

[@tobypoopoo2902]

How she described Folk is also how some people would describe Rap and Hip Hop. I wonder what she would think of Cicice's album "Letter Asian". It's wordy, lengthy but it is an electronic album and not folk. Maybe she might describe it as elastic. 🤔

[@wankertanker1813]

Long time ago I've seen folk as a genre, among others, someone gave to describe Rage Against The Machine

[@wankertanker1813]

Genres are all kinda blah blah blah anyway. It's all music

[@ziweiyuan]

Rap does more than hold up a mirror to society...it holds up a tape player and recycles other people's songs, except with some dude doing a rhyming sprechgesang over it about butts.

[@mikestevenson576]

She just broke down the big rock genres so clearly. Yet at the end of it, I don't know what category Bruce Springsteen is in.

[@sunsp.t]

Bar Band Rock and Roll with an 80s Pop production sound, you could call it proto-Stadium Rock.

[@mikestevenson576]

@@sunsp.t That's a brilliant name for it. But I do have to ask: is bar band rock truly what Rosalita and Thunder Road and Born To Run are? Can't help but wonder if it understates Springsteen's revolutionary nature, even though I obviously can't describe it. I know when he broke in '75 it sent a shudder through the industry and was greeted by the public with a certain amount of initial bewilderment as befits something very new and different.

[@mikestevenson576]

@BallisticEvents LOL! Brilliant.

[@relentlesseducator]

Springsteen is very folky

[@mikestevenson576]

@@relentlesseducator Great point, Mr. P.

[@markymarco2570]

Rock is a genre, rock and roll is another.

[@christopherreily1895]

Only Annie can speak so eloquently and then absolutely melt your face off with her guitar.

[@tresjordan982]

That was great. Only thing I could add would be Funk/Disco and Prog !! As SV talked about Folk I thought about how it was like Punk in a way. Basic 3 chords and a message!

[@jimdukeproject]

You’re one of the only ones as me I’ve heard to relate metal to classical. It is very close and sometimes as intricate.

[@MikaelLewisify]

I can’t think of a single metal song that’s anywhere as intricate as anything by Bach, Beethoven, Hayden, or Chopin.

[@chetsenior7253]

Metal is classical and surf rock combined.

[@paulriddle7818]

Alot of the great metal bands in Europe have several members who were classicly trained and it shows. Folk Metal, Symphonic, metal Death metal, Deathcore, etc...

[@paulriddle7818]

@@MikaelLewisify Symphonic, Black, Death, Deathcore

[@stoatystoat174]

Folk "A period of time when people were writing these thoughtful, wordy, quotidan but also grand songs right." Quotidian - Having the characteristics of something which can be seen, experienced, etc, every day or very commonly

[@louduva9849]

Big book report vibes. Love Annie.

[@vixyvelasquez9898]

My favorite rock genres: punk , new wave, ska , classic , alternative . Some indie rock and some metal . 🖤🖤🖤🖤😎

[@aprilsofia1306]

Castles Made of Sand?!? Oh, yeah, Annie! Tell it, sister!

[@johnnyosgrillhideaway7247]

Mesmerizing.

[@dabarnes12]

Every musical genre that had survived , did so with the help of a fashion movement.

[@goatuscrow4135]

Intreresting

[@charlesalunni1930]

She's so INTELLIGENT: just a Pure Beauty

[@audible]

🔥 🙌

[@darinbauer8122]

[@aninhamft]

A great video from Professor Annie Clark

[@algarcia4422]

Adorable.

[@djratino]

Grunge and alternative weren't covered. I was wondering why?

[@vixyvelasquez9898]

Is ska considered rock ? It wasn’t covered either . And also indie, classic rock and psychobilly

[@foljs5858]

Because alternative isn't a genre, and grunge, well, they had so more basic stuff to cover. Grunge came on the tail-end of rock as a dominant mainstream music force

[@iluvj50]

I dig St. Vincent but I think she's wrong in describing Chuck Berry as a Rockabilly artist. While there are Country elements in his music he is primarily a Rock and Roll artist (some would argue THE Rock and Roll artist).

[@johnsilva9139]

Yes definitely THE Rock and Roll artist, and I also thought she miscatagorized Buddy Holly as Rockabilly.

[@raynance8105]

Couldn't disagree more. Chuck and Buddy are quintessential old rockabilly to me

[@myflatlineconstruct]

You preformed Bad Penny. I respect that. Benefit of doubt it wasn't a stunt and came from mutual enjoyment of source material.

[@QuinStifler]

Very nice to hear METAL be given the respect it deserves and even imply that it is the MOST modern genre that embodies the R’n’R spirit! Yes, it’s a lifestyle, just as most of Art is for me, as a pro visual Artist. We don’t just create ‘angry music’ to be pretentious or “woke”, we express OURSELVES! Progressive ideals suit Rock and Roll best. 🤘 ✌

[@jaipr529]

Well.... Folk has been around for centuries. It's traditional music that differs in every country and culture and is passed on by oral tradition. Some folk songs played today go back centuries. Rock 'n roll is bearly 70 years old. Simon and Garfunkel and Bob Dylan were a modern American interpetation of a particular kind of Western folk music.

[@gustavomanzano1145]

it´s sort of concerning that not more people have made this comment... also the idea of rock n roll as a way of life is so vague it´s meaningless, l hardly think Carl Perkins and Rick Wakeman would share much

[@kenjones3715]

So GOOD

[@seanohalloran384]

Cool artist and a very talented guitar player. Annie’s always pushing the envelope too. Kind of like an American PJ Harvey. Great video!

[@audible]

We are so happy you enjoyed it, Sean! 🙌

[@beammeupscotty1955]

What about Prog?

[@5stardave]

Rock & Roll is a subgenre (spinoff) of the Blues, not the other way around.

[@citrine65]

Sister Rosetta Thorpe!!

[@jmason61]

My favorite folk singer is Tim Hardin, but not too many people know about him

[@johnsilva9139]

I think he performed at Woodstock.

[@MrInebriati]

Annie describes it all so well!

[@audible]

She is so talented! 🧡 🙌

[@MrInebriati]

@@audible yes does

[@FrankieC200]

Add...The Clash... Queen.

[@MykCypher]

What's Trinity doing back in the matrix?

[@ziweiyuan]

I was really hoping they'd throw in post-punk, to see what she has to say now about David Byrne.

[@marlin6668]

Well… it’s official. I’m in love with Anne.

[@goatuscrow4135]

Pretty good, although simplistic, enjoyable.

[@erikheddergott5514]

Bo Diddley always said R&B means Rip Off and Bullshit. Little Richard was the greatest Rock‘n‘Roll Singer. Fats Domino was the quintessential Rock‘n‘Roll Piano Player.

[@ultrafelps]

love you annie

[@Genny-Zee]

I love that she loves sleater Kinney

[@reghunt2487]

People get mad at me when I say R&B is a type of Rock music.

[@jimdukeproject]

I don’t think you can mention glam rock without including Genesis. Peter Gabriel was the incarnation of his songs through costume.

[@donyoung7874]

Wasn't he more prog than glam?

[@salinzauto]

...and she needs to make all these different style albums

[@buttoneer63]

Talking to Annie, I'd ask why no mention of Mark E Smith or the Fall regarding folk?

[@Handles_are_garbage]

Well, I can think of a couple of reasons off the top of my head: 1. You can't talk about literally all the bands when making a video like this, 2. Despite any arguments you might have, the Fall are post-punk and not immediately associated with Folk. Bonus point: Frank Sidebottom's version of Hit the North, while still not Folk, is more Folk than the original.

[@malenurse51]

smart is sexy. sexy is also sexy.

[@claudio130]

No mention of prog/symphonic rock!

[@Sbannmarie]

AUDIBLE keeps charging me although I cancelled weeks ago!!! SOS someone help.

[@musicaldiscovery1434]

She left out the one sub genre that no one has ever adequately defined or explained the meaning of to me: "Alternative Rock". What does that mean? What makes it "Alternative"? Alternative to what? Isn't all music that isn't "Rock" an "Alternative" to Rock? Who are the most famous "Alternative" artists, and why is their music considered that?

[@gustavomanzano1145]

In times when the notion of cultural appropriation is so sensitive it seems rather odd to have Rhythm and Blues as a subgenre of Rock... Folk is also bizarre...

[@GrinGillis]

This lady music is unlistenable. Future cat lady.

[@raddastronaut]

Although not totally accurate. What as described blues not RnB. Rockabilly could be described say Brian Setzer, though Chuck is still awesome. That’s said this is still an intelligent talented person right here.

[@jamespriest9658]

love u more than love is, stop forgetting Jen Turner

[@dbmorton1114]

And garage rock?

[@tovarisch2788]

Always room for argument, but Chuck Berry wasn't rockabilly. Early Elvis, yes; Carl Perkins, yes.

[@johnnyrocker7495]

She's trying her best to be cool. FFS, how can you mention Rock n Roll or Rockabilly and omit Elvis?

[@Harrier_DuBois]

what about folk-metal and jazz-punk?

[@Grumpyoldgeezer]

Id like to donate towards to her to buy a clue

[@vincenteoppolo9025]

Chuck Berry ….rockabilly…. Lol 😂

[@johnnyrocker7495]

Exactly. Add to that the fact she fails to mention Elvis. Clearly she hasn't a clue.

[@samday6621]

Growing up through 70’s, and 80’s there was a lot of pushing back and confronting the ridged stereo type. 70’s (a lot of homophobia) saw guys wearing makeup and flowing material, and the 80’s saw the gender deconstruction by emphasising androgyny.

[@ronaldhoshizaki5866]

Do the Beatles fall into a subgenre categorization?

[@relentlesseducator]

British Invasion

[@Handles_are_garbage]

Pop

[@60zeller]

Alice Cooper did it before Bowie.

[@morizenfoche]

never heard of her, but I do know she needs to immerse herself into rock-a-billy a bit more. The examples given can be found on any vending machine marked rockabilly-pop

[@bestversion8159]

she's good at sucking the fun out of rock and roll

[@tharveytucker1]

I feel like chuck berry wrote the same song dozens of times

[@0oo00]

Young woman in suit: obvious expert. DEI 🤣

[@gorehound1313]

Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly are not Rockabilly.

[@tomasschiappacassi2401]

Elaborate pls I'm not from the US

[@bobmanners8624]

Annie reminds me of a female David Byrne.

[@audible]

This is such a great comment! Thank you for sharing. 👏

[@johnnyrocker7495]

She reminds me of a female Alan Partridge.

[@bobmanners8624]

@@johnnyrocker7495 The Steve Coogan character!?

[@bobmanners8624]

@@johnnyrocker7495 OR Alan Parsons?

[@TheJoern]

Sorry but Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly aren't really Rockabilly.

[@submandave1125]

To mention Rockabilly without Carl Perkins or Jerry Lee Lewis is near criminal.

[@submandave1125]

@@johnnyrocker7495 "Baby Let's Play House" is mandatory rockabilly. Pretty much pull anything off the Sun studio stacks in that time frame.

[@Anacridhaze]

Keep that gate fellas.

[@submandave1125]

@@Anacridhaze I don't think that word means what you think it means. If I said my favorite fish was the whale and you said "but whales aren't fish," would that make you a ichthyology gate keeper? Nobody here has the ability to stop anyone else from giving their opinion on what's Rockabilly, nor has anyone even suggested anyone not do so.

[@Anacridhaze]

It’s not a word it’s a phrase. I am well aware of what it means. It’s a great starting point to argue with strangers in the internet about inconsequential things. 😂

[@ceyhuncankaya331]

I have never seen anyone on earth explain the concept of Punk more ignorantly. The lower class picking up their arms against the oppressive upper classes??? Even if Punk wasn't dead before, it's definitely dead of grief now.

[@lasjok3r97]

And what about the 2nd part of that statement that perfectly describes punk? The anti establishment ethos also meaning talent is not a requirement to have a voice.

[@lasjok3r97]

Not to mention the preface that "punk means so many different things"

[@TimSmith-hf3ix]

Female Bowie

[@Jones11733]

Hi beautiful

[@darrylgoodwin7947]

Eh. Sounds like she read the first paragraph of Wikipedia on each genre

[@andeeramone89]

R&B is bs You just named all Rock n Roll artists

[@PhatLvis]

A riff can't be "iconic." Only Imagery is iconic - i.e., a person or thing whose Image is famous, usu. to the point of being emblematic. (The word Icon, in orginal Greek, Means image.) In addition to being the most overused word on KZbin, "iconic" is also the most MISused. Misusers seem to think the word means simply "widely known," "instantly recognizable," "memorable," etc. But just as flavors, scents, ideas, emotions, bodily sensations, et al. can't be iconic, neither can Sounds (songs, beats, bass lines, riffs, etc.). No one (hopefully) would ever think to speak of "iconic ice cream flavors," the "iconic smell of sulfur," Marx's "iconic theories," the "iconic bliss of first love," or the "iconic pain of a toothache." Misusers do seem to understand, intuitively, that Iconic has some inherent relation to the human sense of sight - to the exclusion of the other senses referenced above. For some reason, though, misusers appear to unconsciously stipulate a special exception for the sense of Hearing - so that, in their minds, "iconic' can properly apply to the products of precisely Two human senses, namely sights AND Sounds. This error has spiralled out of control due to the KZbin Feedback Loop, wherein video-makers parrot and propagate eachother's mistakes. Indeed, if the word meant what they seem to think it means, we could call this rampant case of misuse an Iconic Linguistic Error.

[@5stardave]

This is the 2020s, words have fluid meanings. People also might be misspelling "iconic" when the mean "Icahnic" as in Carl Icahn.

[@DDubGuitar]

Chuck Berry = Rockabilly? Nein my dear, nein! In the words of the immortal maestro John Winston O'Boogie, "if you had to give rock and roll another name, you could call it Chuck Berry" (paraphrasing).

[@chetsenior7253]

Genres is such a boring thing. Pass.

[@Project_2501]

Why exactly do we listen to a pop artist talking about "living rock'n'roll" when she's obviously not, but couldn't actually be more of a Hollywood pop cliché? Guess for the same reason why non-rock'n'roll artists get introduced to the rock'n'roll hall of fame. The music industry is a joke. "flirting with darkness, flirting with the occult".. no, that is actually what pop these days is about, metal is mocking this as a cliché, using is as an hyperbolic exaggerated tool to shock and raise awareness, not because they actually believe in it (unless you're burning churches in Sweden). This just shows that she has absolutely no clue what she is talking about.

[@ninjabiatch101]

I personally argue that since Black Sabbath were technically formed around the same time as The Rolling Stones, that Metal isn't a subgenre of Rock, and that it is it's own convergent genre.

[@louduva9849]

Bad take.

[@ninjabiatch101]

@@louduva9849 Care to explain why?

[@wankertanker1813]

It's all guitar music, man. Preferably not sponsored by bud light

[@kimberleybeissel747]

Hmmm, no… Stones formed in 1962, Sabbath in 1969. The rapid changes in rock music in those 7 years was huge. Cream were a major influence on Sabbath and others. Check out “Sunshine of your Love” and Hendrix’s “If 6 was 9” for two examples from 1967 of songs and styles that influenced Sabbath. 🤘

[@ninjabiatch101]

@Kimberley Beissel I had read that the garage band that would become black sabbath started in 62, which is where my logic comes from. Though feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken. Because I'm far from a classic rock scholar. Lol

[@MagichourManila]

…and then, there’s VU

[@charlietrots2890]

so she's a spokesperson, now, hawking a product?

[@jamessmith-xy1yf]

biche we believe in you. now work hard!

[@RoscoPColtrane17]

Other than the dumpster, where does Creed fit in?

[@Russiancase]

this thumbnail gave me hickups

[@mr.orange8205]

Prog rock?

[@iansmith8783]

But prog, the best subgenre, doesn't exist? 😂

[@folkalchemy]

P*rnHub colors in the thumb nail, cmon Audible respect your saints and Vincents 😉

[@johnnyrocker7495]

Chuck Berry is Rockabilly?!!! WTF, lol. I switched off then. Hipster BS.

[@blesseins4658]

Don't agree with this perspective ...cos' first , you forget to express Led Zeppelin , and when you look back in time , what stands the weather ...you just realize the foggy stuff is a puppet show ...and also Gong and some others gave atmospheres fromother spaces ...sorry to desoblige ...!!!