Vocal Coach Reacts! Jinjer! Perennial! Live!

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[@badm0t0rf1nger]

Jinjer are (so far) the only band who employ extreme vocals whose music I've spent actual money on. Tatiana drips integrity- I 100% *believe* her when she's up there doin her thang.... & that means I'm sold, to the point where they are my favourite current band. :)

[@kirstenbakker839]

Maybe spend some money on old Opeth albums? Blackwater Park, Ghost Reveries & Watershed are amazing.

[@paulorovisco2108]

Same here, I found this band one year ago and It become my favourite band, they are all great musicians, if you see interviews with them they are all so humble and true, no egos here

[@Hollow_Vamp]

Scar symmetry/solution .45 for me for Christian avelstams insane range, for the perfect clean and growling vocals, jinjer has been my favorite since then though

[@Rodzilla5332]

Check out Spiritbox.

[@leviathan3630]

soundgarden makes a solid second...

[@jen.g.]

She has said she can’t explain how she does it. She says she thinks of it like she has two different throats. Anyone coming into the comments to correct you should calm down. Love seeing you return to Jinjer, by the way! 😊

[@j.f.fisher5318]

naw, this is spot on. I feel like that "2 throats" feeling suggests false cord growls.

[@Fenthule]

I'm going to have to agree, two throats feels right. I can do her screams pretty much identically, and they definitely come from two distinct different places. that transition she does several times in this song is actually a lot of fun haha. It's like I'm switching the wind coming from my diaphragm from the back towards the front, but there's like a middle section where it achieves almost no sound, so you kinda have to learn to jump it? It's incredibly difficult to explain. I'm actually in the process of getting gear together to start recording audio and maybe eventually video, maybe I can try and explain it better then lol

[@russvasquez9571]

Sorry to tell you, you haven't seen the best one yet. "Pit Of Consciousness" (Live In Kiev) will show you a little more about her vocal talents.

[@jimmorris67]

Like to see that for sure

[@magshype]

nah this is her best performance live imo, she done it all including a bruce lee kick at the start.

[@Dark__Thoughts]

She couldn't tell you, as she does not know herself, since she's self taught.

[@MLuxemburg]

I love Perennial! Always love Jinjer! I see others have said that Tatiana doesn't know how she does it. Thank you for bringing the fantastic genre twisting music of Jinjer to more people! Hope you'll keep trying more Jinjer songs, the band is fantastic, her singing incredible and I love her lyrics! ❤🖤🤘

[@jeffwellman8347]

For another great live performance react to "Who is Gonna be the One" (Live, Napalm Records)

[@RockDocNeal]

Hey Sam, great reaction. I've become obsessed with Jinjer and another similar female-fronted metalcore band, Spiritbox, since I discovered them 3-4 months due to their fantastic songwriting and musicianship and the incredible vocals of both Tatiana from Jinjer and Courtney from Spiritbox. I haven't checked out your other videos yet, but if you don't get a chance to talk to Tatiana in person, you should check out the long interview that Elizabeth Zharoff did with her on her channel The Charismatic Voice. It's very interesting and because Elizabeth is also a vocal coach, she gets into some of the "nuts and bolts" of Tatiana's vocal technique. Plus, it lets you see what a nice person Tatiana is.

[@darinhusk366]

Welcome to the Jinjer Journey. I saw them live in Baltimore, USA, on 27 November, and they were just as incredible as these videos show. Thanks, and cheers!

[@crhu319]

Her snake-like then puppet-like stage moves here are outstanding.

[@randalljones4370]

"Float like a Land Jelly Fish" I think I sense a new t-shirt logo has been born.

[@SSTVocalCoach]

Don't make me pull out my drawing tablet... :)

[@jeffm1896]

Love your reactions, your sense of humor, and your accent!

[@goncalocarvalho4917]

you explained it perfectly in the begining

[@casandralorensen4910]

My favorite performance is Pit of Consciousness live in Kyiv.

[@andersstromqvist2211]

many have tried both Beth Roars and the The Charismatic Voice have had interviews with Tatiana on youtube so she is no stranger to that. She always say that she does not know how she does it and that she just do it. And if she do not do it for a while she needs to relearn. But yeah she have many practice houers but do not know the mechanics. both those interviews are great and i higly reccomend them. I think you can se with many "growlers" that they adjust the volume with the mic placment keeping it close to the mouth with lower sounds and farther away when they are louder

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I'd add suggesting Loudwire's video interviews with both Tatiana and Courtney LaPlante in their "How ___ Learned to Scream" series.

[@ALive-ti9ri]

Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev will REALLY blow your mind. Like seriously

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Love how great this video is for showing off the technical aspects of her skills both clean and growls. Some folks are suggesting Pit Of Consciousness in Kiev which focuses a bit more on her growls including her low growls which you haven't heard yet. As to volume, yeah usually growls tend not to be very loud per Mary Z for example it is mostly the mic giving the volume. Usually she's growling straight into the mic. But for example at the end when she's really pushing hard to finish as strong as possible she's holding the mic a few inches from her mouth.

[@seanemery6019]

Not being a vocal student, I really enjoyed your take on this performance. Tati is amazing. I absolutely adore her clean vocals, and her screams bring me to other places. The band members behind her are an absolute menace in their own right.

[@vicktoryscreech]

When I was young my brother and I would spend hours trying to figure out how to scream without hurting our throats (spoiler, we never did lol) We use to listen to so much metal and scremo music this takes me back. Absolutely wild to hear you explain how the screams works. very cool

[@upilnarutoo4996]

😮 OMG super power vocal 🤘👍

[@brunocallado5196]

Hello Sam! Please bring more Jinjer to the channel, they're awesome and we can't get enough of them! I would suggest "Vortex" and "Wallflowers". Greetings from Brasil!

[@Karma66]

You just listend to the present and future of Metal.

[@gparish6766]

You cut off her outro... it has a bit of context about who she is as a person when addressing her fans. Great reaction. Listen to Who is Gonna Be the One Live, you'll love it.

[@frankh9600]

Yes, and he missed Tati being out of breath. But fantastic educational reaction

[@leonelsjanofwipper3418]

I'm a live sound engineer and there are other live videos where it's getting fairly close to feedbacking. The mic is cranked up quite a bit. So yes, I think you're right in saying she isn't as loud as some people might think.

[@Dark__Thoughts]

Some videos do have a bit of feedback in them.

[@mendronesg]

I dont see the problem with that. It has to sound good, right? They're making Music

[@Badabinger]

@@mendronesg No one said it was a problem. You're re reading into it. Pointing something out does not make it a problem. Also no one is perfect, not even Tatiana or other people we're fans of 😊

[@caseyrogers573]

I have to say, as a linguist I really appreciate your focus on and knowledge of vocal anatomy.

[@adwood201]

There are several interviews with Tatiana where she discusses it at some length.

[@onthatdirtroad]

Listen to the words, she is growing back from the ashes of her life. At the end that is her growing back like a tree, not a jellyfish. So, she is getting up from below the ground towering to the top all strong and proud. How do singer/dancers do both?? Practice.

[@barefootalien]

Interestingly, Tatiana herself believes she has a limited time being able to scream before she wears her voice out with it. I find that interesting because literally every vocal coach who's ever watched her is convinced she's doing it in a very healthy way, and that she can make an entire career out of it easily. She's already done it for something like a decade, professionally.

[@ZERXERZANZIGER]

Please check out the one take if you get the time. 😉

[@michaelz1387]

Emotional growl - very good!

[@rjstandsforrapjin]

💜💜

[@paulorovisco2108]

See their performance live: pit of consciousness in kiev, whos gone be the one live, and I love Captain clock live

[@j.f.fisher5318]

A bit about false cord growls, though this is just a theory but it seems to explain things fairly well. The way you describe false cord growls with everything relaxed is definitely how some false cord growlers do it, for example Angela Gossow, and I'd recommend her iconic performance of Nemesis live in Tokyo for reference. However, Angela beeaks up her vocals so she only sings 2-5 syllables at a time, because that technique lets so much air blow through so fast. Also Angela's abbs look like a body builder's because she needs that physical power to blast as much air through her open false cords as possible. By contrast, Tatiana sounds like she's doing false cord growls and based on her saying she feels like she has "two throats" one for clean and one for harsh vocals this seems to back that up even though being self-taught she doesn't know exactly what she's doing or at least not how to articulate it. My suspicion is that she must be partly closing her false vocal cords or she wouldn't be able to get such long sustained growls, such as the long single growl at the end of Pit Of Consciousness live in Kiev. Though I wouldn't be shocked if she was using a combination of false cord and fry screams.

[@purpleir]

💯

[@gwen-bleiz8141]

💙❤ 💛

[@Scurr7]

You should check out some Angela Gossow as the mother of female harsh vocals, best experienced live: ARCH ENEMY - NEMESIS (LIVE IN TOKYO!)

[@impulse4079]

I believe her technique is some kind of personal spin on traditional false chord engagement. Her highs are with the same technique, with sometimes higher frequency to give the higher pitch. If I recall correctly, Tatiana doesn't find fry screaming easy and has trouble with it.

[@travesty-studios]

Some metal vocalists can do screams that sound like the other technique, it's hard to tell sometimes. I think vocalists that's generally use false chords, will mix in a fry, but not base their scream on the fry technique. Some vocalists do just use both Edit: false chords screams tend to be really loud, actually. Vocal fry screams usually don't hit as hard. I had a vocalist that didn't put much effort into his scream and he still had the ability to wake me up from a different room while recording in a (mostly) soundproofed room.

[@YearZer0777]

Cool reaction and analysis but I feel your mic volume is low compared to the music. So I find myself adjusting volume throughout this video. Just thought I'd let you know ✌

[@SSTVocalCoach]

Noted! thank you for letting me know :)

[@horsehollerer]

@@SSTVocalCoach You and Tatiana both need louder mics, then. What a couple of silly quieties! 🤣🤣🤣

[@murderhobo4964]

I think you would love the newer song wallflower by jinjer amazing display of her vocal control

[@Nemendril]

Tati and Floor are one of the greatest of our time

[@RandomBeing]

Tatjiana actually sometimes does interviews with youtube reactors, you could ask :D

[@dennypayne]

LOL you managed to pause almost every time at the junction of growls to cleans (or vice versa) and missed all of those moments except the one. Thankfully you did catch the best one and were able to comment on it, but I would suggest that you begin rewinding 10 seconds each time you pause so you don't continue to miss things like this.

[@Unown7]

Please React to Lunod by Ben & Ben, Juan Karlos and Zild performed in the Pool

[@xandoppelsauger5039]

Se que las voces guturales no son una técnica que lo enseña un vocal coach que yo sepa ,es un estilo vocal que se usa solo en género del metal...Empezó con pink floyd ,y se que aprenden a cantar solos este tipo de estilo por supuesto.No se si existirá alguien que hoy en día sepa enseñarlo.Se que hay solo una mujer que si enseña .

[@petethorley5998]

This is a man that needs to ne introduced to Lorna shore 😁

[@danielmrtns]

12:10 Yeah, good luck with that. She said in an interview once that she learned her technique by “going out in the cold in Ukraine and screaming at cars”.

[@Maca494]

the worst part is she doesnt even know how she does it herself...she learnt to do it by trial and error by herself so she is completely unable to explain what she does or what parts or her throat she uses or anything ahahah she is cute and magnificent like that XDD

[@yukmy4913]

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[@Serevg]

She wan't tell you how to do it, its a rezult of years of trying. She wan't tell you how she sings clean either. There is a few very good vocal coaches on youtube who definitely can tell everything about extreme vocals, Kardavox Academy for example.

[@crhu319]

Fairy Voice Mother (any Tatiana reaction), Julie Nilon (see her Angela Gossow reaction)

[@alanlawrence6576]

please please please check this one out it's very short i really want your option Diana Ankudinova at "ShowMASKgoon" - "Can't Help Falling in love" please do this for me ps.she just doesn't sing she uses her voice as an instrument

[@ameliabond5244]

When’s the next Hamilton reaction?

[@test-em7kz]

Check out Diana Ankudinova - Can't help falling in love

[@fproulx1]

I think you steal great vocalists explications.

[@alwaysprepared]

Dude. When you pause the video rewind a few seconds before resuming. You missed so many great transitional points in this video...

[@amandabyrne8914]

Can you react to Jin from BTS new OST called Yours

[@scuppernog1]

All jinjer songs are great. Tati is the Queen and as such, don't cut her off again dude, uncool. I didn't cut your video off short, that would be rude.

[@catheald]

You sure you couldnt pause it a few more times? Ruining a good song

[@ICEMANKENNYTV]

I just found your channel and I don't mind how many times you stop the video and I like your commentary but you completely ruin the flow of the song when you don't rewind five or ten seconds when you continue. It's really annoying and I can't watch anymore. I will not sub for that reason only...