Staked Castle Nuts are NOT permanent

[@project86xero]

As soon as I saw you bump that geissele reaction block up against the wrench I decided I wanted one. Genius!

[@stephenyip826]

I just use any ar stock to a similar effect

[@chipsterb4946]

I agree - what a cool alternate use of the tool. In another video he mentions the Botach receiver extension block which looks like it could be used the same way.

[@49erssuckbutt]

yep I just ordered one myself

[@Chronix74]

As an amateur in AR's. your channel has been by far the most helpful. Thank you Sir.

[@ecay]

I already knew most of this information but I still watch things like this because there's always something I can learn in these type of videos and you don't disappoint great video! Keep up the good work

[@ChristianConservativ]

The "Sriracha Hot Chili Sauce" gave him the power to bust the staking loose!

[@edberrios3679]

I hope your wife feels better soon.

[@YorktownUSA]

I genuinely found this helpful, because I was wondering how easy it would be. Thanks.

[@AshleyCardona-rg5gc]

thank you for your time and content; god bless you and your family and loved ones, you are a blessing to the 2A community sir.

[@fun2916]

“Staked castle nuts are not permanent” It’s sad many don’t know this 🤦‍♂️

[@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919]

I learn something every time I watch your content! Thank you brother

[@JR-pj8pz]

you scratched the shit out of the buffer tube. im sure the owner will be pissed about that.

[@enluzenment]

The real trick is finding a sure fire way of the extension not clocking when tightening the castle nut. I put a stock on and try to time the extension a couple degrees past bottom dead center. Then, when tightening, I put counter force on the tube by way of pressing my torso against the stock. It will still inevitably move a bit but hopefully not more than a couple of degrees. Sometimes I can get it to dead center first try, other times it takes a couple go's at it. The LMT extension tube is the best way I have found to get around that issue. They manufacture a tongue into the threads which will pin itself against the retainer pin, not allowing the tube to rotate past center when tightening. It's a Godsend if you get frustrated with crooked receiver extensions, just wish they made A5 length.

[@UnforgivingDemon]

BCM does a awesome job staking as well.

[@SchooloftheAmericanRifle]

Agree

[@Vk-vd1xs]

Sturmgewehr556 you are correct

[@rogervasquez7640]

Agree and its bitch to break off.

[@DARisse-ji1yw]

Poor guy sounds like he has the Covid ... Needs a shot of "antiseptic". . Aged in oak....

[@Vk-vd1xs]

D.A. Risse aged in oak 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@williamboulanger3639]

Thank you for all the great information you give us, I hope and pray you and your family feel better . A big thanks to your wife for when she can video for you . You still did fine !

[@SchooloftheAmericanRifle]

Thanks William

[@mr.matthews67]

I've been watching your videos all day and that is the second one from SOA that has been clocked off to the side.

[@matthewbeaver5026]

Good to know in the beginning I knew I would want to change endplates. Now that I know this and have my endplates to install I will definitely be doing some staking

[@mrgauges9065]

Removed one recently, mine would not budge until I used a tiny flat head screw driver to pry out the displaced material. Then it came off easy. Good indication of how effective staking is however

[@bmphil3400]

It's just extra insurance that it won't loosen during the vibration of shooting.

[@thisishowitsdone4254]

New to your videos and loving it buddy. Castle nut is the first thing I grab when someone says "my rifle feels kinda loose"

[@stealthisdkey]

Great video, thanks

[@demandred1957]

As a machinist I can confirm. Just makes it harder to take it off. Even if you smashed some threads, depending on how hard the nut is it will just reform the threads on the way out. Now welding on the other hand...lol

[@johnpoole8321]

I'm learning very nicely from your tricks. Thank you very much.

[@Whitesp44]

I agree with some comments, like to get that reaction block. I have an older Olympic Arms "LE Carbine" . That castle nut is staked like Thor drove a spike into the end plate. I cannot get it off. I'm sure a gunsmith could but damn that's not going anywhere. Good video, thanks.

[@MrEpeeFencer]

I really want one of those Geissele reaction blocks, but the $200 price tag is ridiculous.

[@EverythingisFire]

Is that Corona price hike or was it always that much? I cheap-ed out on a 'Reaction Rod-like' tool from Brownells.

[@m118lr]

A LOT of stuff from Geissele is WAY OVER-priced

[@johnphillips222]

I am not sure if it is the covid price, or the reaction block is twice as good as a couple years back. I paid $99 for it a few years back.

[@HuntEthical]

The Geissele block used to be 100 bucks. The second covid kicked in it jumped to 200 bucks. Maybe something else is going on behind the scenes but once that happened I got super turned off by Geissele. I love their triggers and rails, but what the hell makes them think the reaction block is worth 200 bucks when its especially only good for milspec tubes? My opinion is save the money and get the KZ. So far it has held up just as good as the geissele and is 60-70 bucks. Just my .02.

[@kanaka118446]

@@m118lr especially their magazines and trigger assemblies

[@stevewhisperer6609]

Good video. Hand staker here. I always stake 'em.

[@justmeva]

Thank you for explaining this: it cleared up a lot of confusion on my part.

[@ramzankadyrov6035]

My Stag castle nut looks exactly like that. Double staked.

[@ghosthk2935]

Great info Sir, thanks! I want to get a good wrench. Which one are you using in this video?

[@CharlesD4rwin]

love your videos! Blows my mind, however, that someone would drop their firearm off with someone for this kind of basic work.

[@jackieeastom8758]

Guess I need to break down and stake my castle nut! Been waiting until I got my bench made (should be finished today) and installed my vice. Thank you for your time and information.

[@StrideResearch]

Absolutely LOVE Forward Controls Design

[@occamsrazor1285]

In auto mechanics, we stake axle nuts (they hold the drive axle in the wheel hub to transmit the rotational energy through the axles, to the hub, and to the wheels via the lugs). Just takes a little extra torque from an impact wrench to overcome the clamping force. No big deal. The purpose of staking is a mechanical method of preventing fasteners from rotating due to vibration. At least, an additional mechanical way. The primary way is proper torquing of the fastener, but there are instances in which an additional load needs to be placed on the fastener. That's when you typically use split washers (which "bind" the threads together to attempt to prevent rotation). And the chemical way to do this is thread locker. I'm no engineer though, so if the firearms engineers decided to use staking, there's a reason for it. Stick with it.

[@YourMothersHouseChillin]

I never seen a staked castle nut on any vehicle. They always use Kotter pins through them.

[@mrshort2379]

great content awesome info: I like the aesthetics of that castle nut do you know if it is a SOLGW castle nut? or different a brand?

[@Fly4aWhiteGuy]

Oh, great! You made me look at my lower abd see that my stock & vrip are not aligned 😕🫤 Now my OCD forces me to take it back apart. 🙄 At least it gave me an opportunity to properly torque it to 35 ft-lb. I'm just using blue loctite and proper torque w/o staking it. I'm also going to torque stripe it & keep an eye on it.

[@m118lr]

I hope THAT ‘timing’ of the receiver extension is not the ONLY reason he’s “destroying” the SOLG factory job. Looks perfect to me..and EVEN IF it’s slightly off, it’s SO close as not to be worth it IMO. (But It is what it is..)

[@bakedandsteaked]

I've never noticed such a thing and have never heard anyone complain about it. But sure enough, I checked my ARs and almost all of them were clocked off center. But like I said, I'd never even noticed it before and I sure as hell don't care about it now anymore than I did before lol. Just thought it was funny. What a strange thing to send your gun to an armorer for.

[@JT.45]

The owner probably gives his gun to someone else to clean after firing 20 rounds.

[@tommcfarland5368]

Thank you! Happy Holidays!

[@jasonwheat5242]

I'd like to see a video of the tools you use, brand and where to get them!

[@itsmegator1019]

He has done countless videos on his tool collection.... quite a few are custom tho

[@josephstein18]

Awesome video. Would love to see you do a buffer tube install and staking video. I had issues getting them perfectly straight too.

[@icantsaywhat]

You should show how you properly stake the castle nut /end plate . If you have showed it in another video before which one . I’d like to see how to do it properly and I’m sure you do it with the same attention to detail you do everything else . I can’t think of a. Enter place to see it done properly

[@SchooloftheAmericanRifle]

I will in a separate video. I'll show several tools and methods.

[@icantsaywhat]

Thanks for the reply’s. Keep up the great videos

[@xCaPz]

@@SchooloftheAmericanRifle you still gonna do this?

[@SchooloftheAmericanRifle]

@@xCaPz yes. Thank you for the reminder

[@xCaPz]

@@SchooloftheAmericanRifle No problem, would love to see how you do it. I almost have all the parts to build my first AR.

[@vincenta.1677]

Nice brother 👌

[@nypuno]

dang, i wanna 3d print something like the reaction block now. I always slip off the castle nut ahha

[@2of2DCH]

Check out the Forward Controls Design JCW, it has a lip which sits over the edge of the castle nut to help prevent the wrench teeth from jumping.

[@theia1653]

Was never meant to be permanent, just to prevent the castle nut from loosening. Being able to break the staking with slight firm torque is pleasant to work with. Colt's machine double staking is insanely secure.

[@rcairnut]

I always learn something! Thank you sir.

[@loquat44-40]

About reuse of the castle nut. Even if it did line up with the old staking position, if there was no a replacements available due to legal restrictions or end of all commerce in such items, with a dremel tool or a file or other tools new notches could be made. I know that is not the sort of gun assembly that is advocated here, but people must always be conscious of workarounds due to necessity.

[@Sparks68]

Making a castle nut permanent is why Red Loctite was invented. Just stay arm's reach plus 3 feet away from a gunsmith or armorer when they try to remove it for some reason. Better yet, don't even be in the same building. The best staking tool is the Tango Uniform you demonstrated from Echo Zulu. Proper torqueing to 40 ft-lb is the first step to keeping a castle nut secure.

[@justmeiswear]

I’m loving how consistent you are with dropping videos lately. You still did a good job without your wife 👍. Keep up the good work!

[@cbremer83]

Leverage is an amazing thing.

[@Jordan-ql6tm]

Appreciate this video brother

[@Bad666Moon]

My buddy has a BCM complete lower and they do some pretty aggressive staking as well. I don’t know what they use, but the dimple is square instead of round.

[@ssjwick]

Just took mine off a brand new DB15 without a vice grip like you've got... had to use a hammer and some Ju Jitsu tactics. Let me say, i'm proud to be American.

[@TheMightyCookieShow]

I got a little tactical sling attachment that I was going to take and remove the buffer tube and install on my rifle but then I discovered that the same thing could be done using a clamp so I'm just going to go with the clamp I don't really see any reason to be disassembling my rifle any further right now I don't have some of the stuff I need to do it anyway so why do it

[@ncal08]

Thanks for teaching us!

[@smkymtnsaws163]

Great information!!!

[@blackbeard5273]

My Geissele super duty has amazing staking, best ive seen this far.

[@seanokeefe703]

I had my hand crushed and arm injured in Houston and a few Drs I had and an imaging center I used had a corporate office that was part of Radical Firearms , was wondering if they are well known and what the quality is ? I saw the manufacturing and showroom while I was at the corporate medical office.

[@Sometimes_Always]

I used the smallest punch + hammer and tapped the nubs back down.. It was still a pain to remove but I was able to do it with just the armorer's tool...

[@CircaSriYak]

Hot sauce is critical, no shop should be without it.

[@EarthAltar]

I like that armorer's wrench. With the Magpul wrench you have to remove the stock.

[@m118lr]

Agreed. The Magpul wrench was (IS in my case) waaaay over-hyped...

[@EarthAltar]

@@m118lr It's a great wrench. I would say overpriced for sure. You can often find them at a very deep discount. I would never pay MSRP on one. There are other options that are just as good or better for less.

[@philyamascunt7518]

What wrench is he using?

[@chloedemeter5473]

He's using a Tapco brand wrench here.

[@2fathomsdeeper]

@@EarthAltar Magpul wrenches also don't fit pistol tubes.

[@glockguru9]

I would like to hear your opinion on a topic. I have a question about the Voltor A5 rec extension tube. I have a silencer and wanted to know if using a A5 rec extension would be beneficial or should I just use a heavier buffer and or buffer spring to slow cycling? I’m currently running a H3 buffer, standard spring, on a Daniel Defense MK18 10.3” barrel. Ejection pattern with current set up suppressed is about 2 O’clock.

[@barryd.thomassr.9156]

What brand Magazine well Block is that, looks Adjustable for Fit.

[@ashleydaniels1851]

How about that permanent scratch that you put on the buffer tube when the wrench slid down it.

[@1014p]

Why is staking the castle nut a standard? Mine have not moved at all being not staked. Granted .224 if pressure applied tightly does loosen, not under firing. TNW is not staked and probably about 400-500 rounds solid and can not loosen by hand. I have known no person who built their own as well to have mentioned castle nut moved. So far no gun smith has ever been able to explain why this is done. Also so far no case they have seen of an issue being not staked. I am not looking for the answer being because the manual says to do it. If reasonable ill follow it; but between torque spec, options like loktite, or spring washers options exist. Seeming to be a set in way mentality as opposed to practical reason.

[@Daniel-qr1zf]

That staking was beautiful. I wept. ...and I thought I was o.c.d. 😅

[@dandexinventor]

Good know along with a few other hundred things you have shown! Thanks.

[@DEVNER-bq8jj]

What do you call that tool with 3 locks that u pushed against d wrench? Thanks..

[@tipsygamer9244]

Subbed just for the Sriracha!!!! love the content.

[@Fly4aWhiteGuy]

Should the reaction block be clamped in the vise?

[@pizzasteakphocheeseburgeri2965]

I can appreciate one's meticulous attention to detail but I have ran my ARs to the ground without issue. The only issue is that I am too lazy to clean my own weapon and if a malfunction happens, well - thank the training

[@shaquileoatmeal7365]

Awesome to know, thanks man

[@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6014]

I gaulled the buffer tubes threads taking mine off recently because I needed to fix something stupid I did on my first build from inexperience. It all went back together ok and seems solid even though those couple threads are gone. Is this something I should worry about replacing the tube on or dont worry about it since the other threads are holding it together? I think in my inexperience I had loctited the threads and that's what caused the screw up. I'm a little more knowledgeable now after a few more builds and a lot more research but that first build is my baby

[@oscarrodriguez2169]

Can you show us in a video how to do the buffer tube alignment , i been having trouble with my buffer tubes that are not straight

[@Warhorse556]

If you ever made a jig for replicating the square staking Colt and BCM use, you'd forever be my hero.

[@johnphillips222]

For a mere $188 you can get the proper tool to make that square staking. Look up HK Buffer Staking Tool online, and you will find it. Yes, I made the leap and made the purchase. Everybody wants to produce the staking quality I do ...until they see the price. With the HK tool in hand, it is possible to field fabricate the staking tool. I made an impact staking hammer press and a support fixture to get the staking perfect. I used the copycat die to properly time the staking to always be square.

[@UnforgivingDemon]

@@johnphillips222 Are you happy with your purchase?

[@johnphillips222]

I am happy with the HK staking punch. The price was steep, but I like the look of the square staking. The HK staking punch does NOT work with the steel Magpul ASAP receiver end plate. It is too hard. I probably shouldn't say this, but it is the truth. I use the Geissele receiver tube reaction block when tightening the castle nut to 40 ft-lb. I loosen the castle nut and torque it, again. I don't stake the receiver end plate, unless someone asks me to. I am OK with someone staking it or not. The torque really matters, and anodized aluminum threads are weird the first time the theeads mate. I hope this helps.

[@johnphillips222]

If you want to field fabricate your own HK style staking punch, the dimensions are 0.116" by 0.074" with a beveled cut on the 0.074" face to help displace material into the castellation while keeping the punch vertical (in a jig or by hand). A donor punch, like the nail set or some air hardening drill rod both work well. I hope that the dimensions help.

[@jacktothefuture3554]

@@johnphillips222 Thanks! I'll definitely be making one.

[@steveninaz9576]

Thank you Sir

[@50calprepper]

During assembly, if the extension is Canted like that , would backing the nut off and rotating the receiver counterclockwise and re tightening, would that work? Or am I thinking incorrectly?

[@SchooloftheAmericanRifle]

You are correct.

[@Vk-vd1xs]

Now let’s see your staking 🙏👍

[@frogchaser]

yeah my DD castle nut was staked in 2 spots and was easy to get off

[@931PORSCHE]

Sooo am i hearing slight bit of blue lock tight to help make it a more temp permanent torqued castle nut?

[@Bad666Moon]

I will lay the case for staking, but I’m done arguing with the “good enough” or “works for me” people who will argue against staking. The loctite guys are great as well. That may keep the castle nut in place, but it doesn’t stop the receiver extension from loosening with it.

[@2fathomsdeeper]

Sometimes locktite has it's place. On my pistol build, my wrench wouldn't fit over the tube. I had to use a single lug spanner wrench that I couldn't use the torque wrench with. The tube is cut out for the buffer retainer, so if it rotates, it's only going to move a degree or two. So locktite there will be fine to hold the castle nut. She's still tight at 500 rounds. In life, many times you do what you have to do, not what you'd like to do. In GW I, I had to replace takedown pin detents with filed down pieces of coat hanger, as I couldn't get parts through the supply line. They worked very well, and survived until after the war, when I finally received my parts. It wasn't what I'd like, but it was what I had to do!

[@zebfox011]

I have never staked a castle nut and I've never had any problems.

[@luckygunnerx30]

I wish more people staked castle nuts. Locktite is not JuSt As GuD and neither are the damn ratchet nuts. Those things are garbage. Staking is free and bombproof

[@S13hunter]

Have you tried the PWS Ratchet Castle nut and End plate before?

[@xanimosityxgaming2664]

Don't. It's designed for a SINGLE USE not on and off.

[@daviddixon9598]

Been building AR's since 1980 and never staked one yet.

[@newb781]

I’m new to this so forgive my ignorance. Why is staking better than Loctite?

[@user-oi8sq6ci8j]

That's why I always stake my castle nut with loctite.

[@frithsteadfarm904]

Couldn’t you push the stock up against the A R wrench and get the same affect

[@ericward9159]

Good idea, almost dropped 200 bones on that damn tool. Thanks for sharing that.

[@jharrison6557]

The factory staking on my IWI ZION looks identical to that.

[@collinjones311]

So, I am currently running a POF renegade plus. It uses a steel castle nut, but a 6061-T6 alum end plate. I staked it but was wondering if the alum is strong enough for the staking to do its job properly under somewhat harder use. Granted it is only preventing vibrating loose, am I over thinking it?

[@claudiodominguez.]

What's even easier is a ratcheting castle nut, on off, on off, no muss, no fuss.

[@CoryHobbs2178]

I just got done installing an Vltor A5 on my truck gun and did some really nice looking staking to it. It's actually fairly easy. This was only my second time and everyone says it looks perfect.

[@Nylonscheme]

What did you use to do it? The special tool or a punch?

[@blargblarghonk]

I'm the caveman that breaks staking. Just ask my ball joints.

[@ZERO_42069]

You got a lot of cool videos and tools

[@tavelkyosoba]

what's the difference in breakaway torque between a staked castle nut and an unstaked castle nut?

[@11C1P]

@@HolyShitAccess Have dozens of build & have never staked them with no problems. I put locktite on a couple of my 1st builds but don't even do that anymore.

[@tavelkyosoba]

@@11C1P That's why I'm curious. The castle nut is functionally a jam nut, jam nuts are used to lock fasteners in lieu of other methods. Doubling up on locking methods seems...odd.

[@mikecollins8241]

​@@tavelkyosobaclassic example of a solution to a non existent problem, becoming a "must have" trend 😮

[@snakeinthegrak8969]

That amount of leverage far exceeds anything that would make that nut come loose because of use.

[@HonkeyKongH]

Good tip with that reaction block! But I can’t believe someone who owns a SOLGW rifle can’t change a damn endplate..........

[@Multra]

Probably a safe queen.

[@otetechie]

I’m a big fan of KAC staking.

[@SchooloftheAmericanRifle]

There's a reason they don't.

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

@@SchooloftheAmericanRifle What does KAC do?

[@americanmilitiaman88]

Just takes a little more elbow grease to get the nut loose. It wont come loose from normal use

[@sheanthesheep3680]

Is there a reason to replace the buffer tube periodically? I have a lower with 8k rounds I replaced the bolt catch, the mag release and the fcg. Just curious.

[@versoarmamentcompany]

Great video

[@ericward9159]

Would adding a little red loc-tite be overkill?

[@netflooder263]

Should castle nuts come staked from the factory? I've noticed that some pricier ar's don't come staked when more budget ones do?

[@prodigydrummer]

My M&p pistol came staked from smith and Wesson

[@brunothehumble]

I've always found it interesting that people say to always stake the castle nut for fear of it coming loose and yet the only ones I've ever seen come loose were staked. they were also terribly abused but that isn't the point.