I realy apreciate not just sticking with the "HA HA Italy bad" meme but actualy pointing out that they were simply not ready for a war when they were draged into it.
@Thebiolizard5906 ай бұрын
@@baroku94Germany made all members of the axis sign the "pact of steel" essentially saying if anyone attacks or is attacked the other members must also declare war. Hitler kept musolini under the impression that war wouldn't start till at least 1946-48. He thought he had more time so was completely unready for war
@FuelDropforthewin6 ай бұрын
I am familiar with Italy's performance during WW2. and WW1 for that matter. It was honestly embarrassing. Yes they were *hopelessly* unprepared, but they did not let that stop them going on the offensive. The fact that they had to get bailed out of the invasion of Greece that they started by Germany really showcases that (note that Hitler very specifically told Mussolini not to do it and he did it anyway), since at the time Greece was an absolute mess which was arguably even worse prepared for war than Italy. Mussolini bears a huge part of the blame for this, as his ego repeatedly dragged italy into fights they could not win and got them slaughtered. Not to the level Luigi Cadorna got them slaughtered in WW1, I grant you, but that is a high bar to clear. Few commanders in all of history can compete with Luigi for throwing away the lives of their troops in suicidal offensives. The number of unforced errors Mussolini made during that campaign are worth noting. One of which was starting his offensive in October. October, for context, is the middle of Italy's harvest season. That means that Mussolini had the choice of either conscripting his workforce for his military campaign (thus dealing a significant economic blow as he would lose out on a major portion of the year's harvest due to lack of manpower) or sending the young men to work the fields (thus weakening his military due to loss of a major portion of his conscripts). Italy was on the offensive. They could have delayed until after the harvest to avoid making this choice. Greece was not in a position to attack them at the time. The Italian military was not inherently incompetent. even the much memed upon tankettes make sense when you consider that most of Italy's land boarders are through mountain passes where heavy tanks are completely impractical. However, their leadership in general and Mussolini in particular were either comically incompetent or grossly negligent, routinely neglecting logistics and morale and rendering their army inefficient from the top down.
@ordinaryrat6 ай бұрын
@@FuelDropforthewin Essentially all of the Italian generals (except for a few like Giovanni Messe) were purely hired for ideological loyalty. Mussolini had essentially wanted to make a loyal army but it would have been too much of an investment on Italy's generally weak economy (that was still recovering from the great depression) to make a strong one (when there was no war in the near future). Similiar to other dictators, loyal generals tend to lie about the situation to make it seem better than it actually was. Mussolini probably didn't know the full extent of the situations with the Italian forces until they were essentially out of the war (not that anything would probably have been done at that point anyways.
@DrHouseMusic6 ай бұрын
Sounds like something an Italian would say
@onkotonkoblu6 ай бұрын
Bro, le doppie dove le hai lasciate? Comunque non penso che dire che l'Italia era forte, sia poco controversiale oggi, capisci?
@spoork6 ай бұрын
This is like doctor doofenschmirtz actually taking over the world and stopping Perry
@namethefifth73156 ай бұрын
Tri state area*
@user-bn5df6hl1d6 ай бұрын
fuck it perry - we doin this lmao
@inconvenient-antifascist6 ай бұрын
@@namethefifth7315 Beat me to it
@rustyblade-zr6ph6 ай бұрын
Behold! My compitence-anator!!!
@spoork6 ай бұрын
@@rustyblade-zr6ph he should have made that
@MunchKING6 ай бұрын
18:20 When he said "if you want to see what would happen, like this video", the like counter went up while I was watching it. Timing.
@FelipeTempestad176 ай бұрын
What if japan didn't attack the USA and focus on helping on operation barbarossa from the other side
@ericfaz14276 ай бұрын
It probably depends on whether or not the Battles of Khalkhin Gol are mandatory or not.
@Nomsyyyy6 ай бұрын
the only major change would be the war lasting longer, no matter what japan would have to declare war on the west due to severe lack of resources and embargos
@FelipeTempestad176 ай бұрын
@@Nomsyyyy well, it seems you lack the imagination, without Japan triggering usa maybe they stayed out of it for years and that would give time to operation barbarossa without a powerful D day, and also Stalin having a 2 front wars in Siberia would not be fun for him
@Nomsyyyy6 ай бұрын
@@FelipeTempestad17 i think youre someone whose history knowledge only comes from hoi4, even before ww2 the second sino japanese war was going on. during the second sino japanese war several close calls came with american vessels shipping to china in turn already damaging relations. the reason japan struck in 1941 was due to a severe lack of rubber, steel and oil. without these they wouldnt win the second sino japanese war as it was in a stalemate. all that would happen would be the war lasting longer and maybe just maybe a victory in stalingrad due to having less resources to put against the germans. no matter what the allies wouldve went in on japan or vise versa. please learn your history * EDIT fixed a minor spelling mistake *
@ordinaryrat6 ай бұрын
Literally nothing would change. The soviets always had a pretty large force on the Japanese border even at the worst points of Operation Barbarossa. The Japanese were always tied up in China and I don't think they could even break through the soviet line.
@obrien42175 ай бұрын
One thing you could`ve mentioned as well is that Mussolini was extremely convinced that the Italian Industry was better as it actually was. That was one reason why he did not really devalue the currency, as he said it "does not represent a strong Italy", unlike other countries, like France, after the Black Friday incidence. This hindered a strong industrial grow and thus, grow in military strength.
@Themanofunoriginal6 ай бұрын
What If the German officers had opposed the funny mustache man? (Like would they really bring back the democracy or return the Kaiser or even keep the power for themselves)
@MWSin16 ай бұрын
Interim military governments have a historical tendency to interpret the term "interim" very loosely.
@AnimeFreak40K6 ай бұрын
Return of the German HRE would be baller!
@nightspawnson-of-luna49366 ай бұрын
@@AnimeFreak40K Especially if it means Kaiserin Victoria Louise... namely because I've been asking for that one every time he does this
@AnimeFreak40K6 ай бұрын
@@nightspawnson-of-luna4936 Oh, I have too! My 4th bullet/suggestion is exactly the HRE w/Kaiserin Victoria!
@reddits206 ай бұрын
DNVP
@Zekk115 ай бұрын
I love how you are explaining the historical context behind the situation!
@ovca4105 ай бұрын
21:56 Italian tankettes were built to be effective fighting in harsh terrain like in Alps. You definitely won't make 20 ton tanks to fight in narrow Alpine passages.
@doubledouble4g3792 ай бұрын
I was thinking they might be used as cheap armored cars - mostly an inexpensive boot to use against demonstrators, but that makes more sense.
@Augustus_Imperator6 ай бұрын
There are more focuses to help pacify Ethiopia, like "topple Amhara rulers"
@lolnou42195 ай бұрын
This series is abt historic realism, not gameplay
@FilipBurovski6 ай бұрын
What if Spain joined the axis?
@ackbarfan55566 ай бұрын
Or; a better interesting option, what if the Republicans won the CW, Spanish Democracy survives, and then they join the Allies?
@SIRO_GLYDER6 ай бұрын
After the civil war, Spain had little to no industry, manpower and also quality equipment so it would likely be a speed bump for the allies
@XochiCh6 ай бұрын
I'll expand on tis and ask "What if Spain joined the Axis and took control of Gibraltar?" Would that mean that the Siege of Malta and the african campaign would be easier for the Axis?
@jessie-24146 ай бұрын
Well, spain was pretty weak after thier own little civil war...
@killgaet62536 ай бұрын
They'd be crushed, as they were extremely weak after the civil war, which would open a new front for Germany and Italy.
@smokey58355 ай бұрын
i really like this video because you elaborate on the changes and differences from irl italy to your playthrough. nice vid man!
@YannaTarassi6 ай бұрын
Austria calls for aid! ...and Italy shall answer! Wait, really?!? Shockingly, yes.
@lolloblue96466 ай бұрын
Addis Ababa: Falls two months before real timeline Game timeline: *goes fuckywucky*
@WilhelmsRepresentativeКүн бұрын
How do you bold letters?
@lolloblue9646Күн бұрын
@@WilhelmsRepresentative you use asterisks before and after what you want to make bold
@WilhelmsRepresentative23 сағат бұрын
@@lolloblue9646 thnx
@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo6 ай бұрын
All I know is that in any playthrough where I reenact the Rome Protocols, Germany can't even get through France.
@BraxdonSillyman6 ай бұрын
Difficulty: impossible
@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer19336 ай бұрын
Whaf if King Gustav V of Sweden decided to make Sweden an absolute monarchy again, all because he wanted to return Sweden to the good old days of the reign of Charles XII at the start of the 18th century?
@AnimeFreak40K6 ай бұрын
Putting these ideas out there, because I'd like to see the historical commentary take: - What if the Kodaha Faction succeeded in taking over the military and pulling the Emperor into more direct control? (Japan Monarchist/Non-Aligned path) - What if Poland, despite all odds, was able to get its act together and either resist the Germans or, perhaps, ally with them against the Soviets? (Poland cedes Danzig, goes fascist or something else entirely...having Wojtek lead the way would be extra hilarious) - What if Italy brings back the actual Roman Empire (not the 'Greater Italy' that this video did, but the actual Roman Empire. Extra points for it to be lead by the the Pope) - What if Germany somehow, through some wild twists of fate, somehow manages to bring back the Holy Roman Empire? (not sure if you've done this 'hidden' path yet for Germany or not)
@Giuseppe_199417 күн бұрын
My great grandfather fought for Italy in WW1 and my grandfather in WW2. My father immigrated to America from Melilli Sicily in 1959.
@nikolozgilles6 ай бұрын
Alternate history: Operation Unthinkable, aka an Allies-Comintern war after WW2
@spacemarine34826 ай бұрын
Allies get stomped by the soviets and can only win by dropping their limited number of nukes on military formations
@joelfilho26256 ай бұрын
@@spacemarine3482lmao The idea that the soviets would "stomp" the combined forces of the allies is a child's fantasy at best. The massive industrial base of the USA, as well as the existing navies of the Allies (including UK, US, captured japanese and German fleets) would make any Soviet attempt at naval superiority futile. The soviets would have to keep significant garrisons all over their shorelines to not risk an allied naval invasion, even if only temporary. Even being charitable and assuming a Soviet offensive could overrun the allied armies in mainland Europe, anything across the water would be a huge challenge, not to mention that the allies had a far superior Air force in comparison, meaning that traditional bombing campaigns would be on the Allies' favor, damaging Soviet industrial base and people's war support without much means of counter by the red air force. The only significant risk would be the development of Nuclear weapons by the soviets, but even then, in the early years of post WW2 they were tactical weapons rather than the Destructive MAD weapons they would become in later decades, meaning even if they managed to appropriate the materials and technology to develop nukes during a war against the allies, they still wouldn't be a master key to end the war.
@spacemarine34826 ай бұрын
@@joelfilho2625 Ya no while not nearly as vast the Red Airforce still would have been more than a match to disrupt bombings for at least a few years before attrition would take it's tool. As for the Allies they would be stuck trying to sell a war that no one would have wanted while the soviets just got another massive propaganda line of the western capitalists traitors are finally coming to destroy the revolution after an attempted genocide. Also the soviets don't need to worry to much about the naval situation considering their is no trade or objectives for them to purpose that require one other than an invasion of the UK which they would recognize as impossible. You also vastly overstate the capabilities of the Western armies the soviets had a father greater number of men and far more experienced formations. All the soviets need to do is take France and the war becomes unwinnable for the allies as the populations get tired of the war and unrest begins to build.
@GothPaoki6 ай бұрын
This operation didn't happen because England and US didn't have the means to make it happen. The plan was based on nuking 200 Soviet cities with 300 nuclear bombs. There was absolutely no way they could accommodate such a large scale nuclear operation. It's not as if they chose not to do it,they couldn't.
@imperiumoccidentis73516 ай бұрын
@@spacemarine3482 Soviets could barely handle Germany by themselves, let alone the US + UK.
@TheArklyte6 ай бұрын
Aka Italy abuses alliance with Germany to get its demands and then DOESN'T join the war until 1944 and even then only on Allied side? Because that's what a competent choice on italian part would be.
@TheSkyGuy776 ай бұрын
It would be Italy pulling an Italy from 1915 😂
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen37366 ай бұрын
Thank you! That myth needs to die.
@thecrazydestructoniz6 ай бұрын
@@TheSkyGuy77Bruh that’s not what happened in 1915,study more from books and less from memes
@danielefabbro8225 ай бұрын
Probably yes. Moreover Mussolini himself from a side was enthusiastic of Hitler, but at the same time he was angry, frustrated and repressed by the fact that Germany became the leader in the alliance. Mussolini rised Hitler as dictator. He was the master... (that son of a b...) So many of his actions in war and some initiatives such like that in Greece was made because Mussolini wanted to show that we Italians wasn't the Germans lacchè (servitors). But of course by not spending for war nor preparing the FFAA for the fight, they condemned our forces to submit to foreign initiative. Because that's a fact: Fascist Italy never put a single cent on financing WW2 efforts. Not even half of a cent. And that's give you the picture of the "competency" of the fascists on this matters. So in the end Mussolini had a series of complains against Hitler and the Nazi and historically speaking he tried to sign an alliance, an anti-nazi alliance, with the Britts. But of course Churchill refused because accordingly to him, we "invaded something"... the Britt talked about we invaded something and that wasn't legal... I mean, the biggest colonial empire on the planet had the guts to blame us of taking back Albania, a country that WE made and inhabitated since the dawn of times. 😮💨 Britts... ☕
@the_tactician98585 ай бұрын
@@danielefabbro822 Churchill was in power only from the 10th of May onwards, the Italians joined the Battle of France around 2 weeks later. I doubt the entire talks broke down in 2 weeks. Also the British issues were more with Ethiopia which by that time was an established state. See, Britain established its empire mostly on territory without centralized ruler, or land that was already colonized as part of war spoils. The only exception on this rule that I can think of is the Mugal Empire of India. In general, however, the UK followed rules that made a *casus belli* necessary, even if they stretched that definition to its limits, and the Fascist government of Italy had no proper *casus belli* for their war against Ethiopia. Hence the reluctance to join Italy.
@gamerjones19986 ай бұрын
I really like this story telling type playthrough keep up the good work
@robland32533 ай бұрын
1:10 a slight Correction, Mussolini wanted to go to war, his government however did there best to ensure that the military was all teeth and no tail (it had a lot of combat stuff, but little support staff) so that He would be unable to drag Italy into a war. Then he Dragged Italy into the war on the promise that it would be over very quickly…..
@traviscates37406 ай бұрын
This was a very good video Stakuyi, I have enjoyed your work before, but this one has to be my favorite one to date. I’ve pondered this question for a while.
@dancingbear18285 ай бұрын
Amazing. The mixture of high quality gameplay and the added historical information felt like an alt-history-documentation but with really amazing animations to show the changes that would’ve occurred.
@visyxl6 ай бұрын
Ah yes, a question i always wondered
@joaquinandrews29866 ай бұрын
This what if series is actually so interesting, I would love to see more of it
@Ghost_60124 ай бұрын
The fact this could've actually happened in our timeline is crazy. Italy had a lot of potential.
@juncheok85796 ай бұрын
0:26 speedrunners: october '36, take it or leave it
@hay46646 ай бұрын
It might be hard but 'What if Spain never had a civil war.'
@Theth36 ай бұрын
I love these videos. They give interesting gameplay while also showing me things in history I missed.
@Roboshirt6 ай бұрын
Communist Cambodia playthrough hoi4
@Noah-lq9ki6 ай бұрын
No please no
@tomikasza51986 ай бұрын
This is not the search bar xd
@Eelainer6 ай бұрын
Monthly population -1000%
@Kindnesso26 ай бұрын
No
@Irish_republican6 ай бұрын
Take the khmer rouge pill
@MrSweetPhilly5 ай бұрын
I love your channel. I would like to see a run through with Italy joining the British. Not just the English, but the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish too.
@Sidsidsidsids6 ай бұрын
As Italy, after knocking out Ethiopia in mid-March, I like attacking Turkey to get their steel, and in turn Romania's oil. I've done it late 1936, with the war for Romania usually taking until 1938 to complete, but I never have to fight the Allies before the start of WW2. Getting troops onto the shore in Romania is difficult, so I sometimes wait until I form my own faction and have Bulgaria's help. Every time I try to get Russia's oil, I can never push them far enough and I get bogged down, and I'm terrible at navy stuff, so my fleet gets ravaged by the French and British. Still learning so many things about this game!
@STRAKAZulu6 ай бұрын
We need that possibility explored: how bad would Operation Barbarossa go for both the Germans and the Russians, with Germany being stretched even thinner, and Russia not having the Lend/Lease Act supporting them.
@alexthedemon22035 ай бұрын
They were literally caught with their pants down when the war broke out
@marceloforce0026 ай бұрын
Video 14 of asking stakuyi to play as the Katzenartig Imperium in equestria at war It is an april fools collaboration between the devs from EaW and the devs from the stellaris mod Gigastructural Engineering, the nation is the kingdom of abyssinia, you play as Kaiser Kattail, who has just arrived from another reality and attempts to take over the world utilizing his knowledge of mechanized warfare and megastructures to give his empire a gigantic edge. (for his focus tree to show up, you have to enable it at the game rules menu at the bottom)
@Axel_the-Axelotl6 ай бұрын
Yes
@abuBrachiosaurus6 ай бұрын
This is the first long form video of yours I've watched, really interesting video, learned a lot alongside some awesome HOI4 gameplay
@mrronron73285 ай бұрын
I love how you're describing everything you're doing, somehow the game sounds so much better thx to you
@SiameseTankist5 ай бұрын
8:06 Japanese and Italian tanks are actually pretty good against nations with no antitank weapons or no tanks at all. Early Japanese tanks actually performs well in China until Allied aids started coming in like Soviet tanks, British AT rifles, and US cannons. Though better tanks were planned for production (P40 and Chi-Nu), both nations lacked the industry to produce it in large enough quantity.
@thechickenwhisperer2999 күн бұрын
Man I love the commentary so much, it actually taught me a lot. Please keep it up 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@thomasbishop34946 ай бұрын
Stak you probably know better but if I'm remembering correctly, Italy not being ready is a massive understatement and the 1942 date might be incorrect. In William L. Schirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (which I HIGHLY recommend everyone read) Schirer mentions a communique between von Ribbentrop and his Italian counterpart (who's name escapes me at the moment) where the Italians were very concerned about Germany's timeline because they estimated they'd be ready for war in 1952! I don't remember if von Ribbentrop ever mentioned this to Mr. Moustache but I do remember when reading that, that a lot of things started to make sense when it came to Italy's performance.
@Chaiserzose6 ай бұрын
Ribbentropp is by far a biased source, like almost all german generals post-war memoires.
@federicomarchesini92564 ай бұрын
There is a passage that is interesting in this sense: the "molibdeno list" (it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_del_molibdeno unfortunately it's just in ita or Spanish), where italy was asking an incredible amount of materials to Germany in order to enter in the war with them. Of course it was an excuse to avoid the immediate entrance. When Italy entered Mussolini was actually convinced that the war was basically already won, and he was worried about entering to late to get something
@alexnannetti70953 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it was Galeazzo Ciano,I think Ribbentrop did a bet with him too about Poland not joining the Allies
@Oscar928392 ай бұрын
0:18 proceeds to have a 5 year old do much better lmao
@mukundhashok84866 ай бұрын
@Stakuyi I have a new one for you: What if Finland joined the Allies instead of doing the Continuation War? (Winter War will still occur)
@TheOx19934 ай бұрын
you are very knowledged on historical accuracy and it is much pleasure following you!
@midnightblitzer4 ай бұрын
Wow this video was actually very well narrated and designed. Love it!
@keybladerift52956 ай бұрын
Really loved how you did this one!
@SethBennion6 ай бұрын
9:11 I usually just form IEA. It completes the mission, and if you refrain from calling them into wars, you don't have to waste time, effort, and resources defending them. Basically, you don't have to worry about anything that goes on in East Africa for the entire rest of the game, which is really handy.
@Jimmy_killyАй бұрын
3:25 suffering from success
@tobias55046 ай бұрын
What if Austria Refused the german ultimatum and joined the Allies
@cpdangertv38686 ай бұрын
The allies would abandon them
@bakomusha6 ай бұрын
@@cpdangertv3868 Yep! the UK and France had no intention of actually living up to their geantees and threats, and where shocked when mustache man and fat boy called their bluff.
@simonnachreiner83806 ай бұрын
They basically did and got overthrown by their own people. The allies wouldn't be able to do anything and wouldn't even want to. One: appeasement was still the order of the day. And two: while the Austrian government was taken out by a coup it was very much one by popular support. When mustach man went into Austria, it was originally to set up a German friendly puppet state. However upon his motorcade being met with cheering Austrians welcoming him with tears in his eyes he was moved into annexing them outright. This was against the will of his advisors who were vehemently against outright annexation fearing that with it being directly prohibited by the treaty of Versailles would provoke an immediate war with the allies.
@yaboikindabored98315 ай бұрын
@@simonnachreiner8380 True, from what I remember the Germans wasn't really planning into fully annexing Austria, but it had really popular support from the Austrians
@jacobcaldwell78806 ай бұрын
Love these vids keep em coming!!!
@dannydacheedo15926 ай бұрын
4:02 You were right the first time. I think around 3/4 of the Italian economy was in the public sector during Mussolini's reign
@Brazaiden6 ай бұрын
Loved the voice crack at 7:30
@GregMcNeish5 ай бұрын
Just getting into these videos on your channel (found you through history shorts), and I absolutely love the premise of this series. If you haven't already (I'll look after commenting), please do make a video where a competent Italy defends Austria from German expansion. That's a fascinating what-if.
@artunkansu44614 ай бұрын
In late 30's and all of 40's, Italy was in a dire situation economically, industrially and militarily. Whilst the whole world was mining/using more than 1.5 billion tons of coal per year, Italy only had 3m tons of coal to exctract per year. That goes for aluminium, chromium and petrolium. Anything thats actually needed to supply a war machine was lacking. Only their navy was somewhat ready for a war of this scale but even Regia Marina also lacked sufficient oil. Italy could never be ready for such a conflict with the lack of resıurces they had.
@armjnoarlerto46375 ай бұрын
it's actually so good to hear someone that actually knows how things have gone in our country back then
@ILikeHistory14445 ай бұрын
This is the most intelligent hoi4 player I ever saw
@KhanWolf956 ай бұрын
New scenario: What if Sweden did something?
@semajniomet9815 ай бұрын
`14:55 Are you willing to go into that alternate timeline?
@Maxuras5 ай бұрын
31:40 The US would immediately let the Pacific fall into the background. Now they clearly had their vision what Japan needed to be, that included protecting China and (more importantly) the East Indies. ... However, when Germany announces, that it now owns Canada and a beaten and broken Canadian government says: "It's okay, what other choice do we have?", The US declaration of war would not wait even 8 hours. They would immediately rush into Canada to prevent what absolutely happens every time I play Germany ;-) and German troops cross the Atlantic.
@scavenger62686 ай бұрын
One also has to remember that Italy was largely agrarian with its industrial base purely owned by either state-subsidized corporations or artisanal style workshops with a handful of specialists. Italy simply does not have many areas in the country to sustain the resource intense needs of industry despite its wealth of manpower among the Axis powers. Oh and Britain also preemptively blockaded their economy before the war to prevent imports of goods that could make that happen from annexed territories.
@tobias55046 ай бұрын
What if Mexico joined the Axis at the start of the war in Europe.
@SharpenOneAnother5 ай бұрын
America, who has told European powers in the Monroe doctrine to not create (any more) allies in South America and North America, would have probably immediately invaded Mexico or launched a coup. (Which is why it didn’t happen in rl)
@PersonOfEarth1175 ай бұрын
Mexico would occupy British Belize, leading to Winston Churchill spontaneously combusting and the UK surrenders to the Axis.
@DinoRicky2 ай бұрын
@@PersonOfEarth117ya obvi lol
@allenellisdewitt6 ай бұрын
I'd love to see you explore the Italians being competent and standing up to the Germans, yah
@mercator796 ай бұрын
definitely would like to see that final scenario you proposed as a future video. Basically carry the save game further and see what happens. Maybe not as Italy or you'd be bored but both USSR and Germany would be interesting to take on
@spartanhawk76376 ай бұрын
Yessss, we want more of Stakuyi Caesar. I need to see you rebuild Rome in Crusader Kings next.
@bretthaskell5773 ай бұрын
It is always fascinating and entertaining to see you follow these rabbit holes. Also: Is it just me, or does Bulgaria spike World Tension by mid-1938 seemingly out of nowhere?
@shadowfox23006 ай бұрын
funny moustache man screws over funny hat man and the funny boat man didn't have to worry about either of those two only thing we were missing was the funny magic man
@jakobpetersen80576 ай бұрын
What if Turkey was persuaded to picked a side (very early in the war)
@Mtt9344 ай бұрын
In my playthrough with italy it happened, Iran and turkey sided with the axis. In Africa i was able to land troops from the north and wiped out uk from egypt and the Suez channel (blew it just afterwards), then germany started an offensive in Russia from Poland, while me with turkey and Iran started an offensive from the South (more a position war just to distract troops while germany was advancing) in two years we conquered moscow, in three soviet union was no more. Very interesting run that was.
@BlackBanditXX6 ай бұрын
This is a very interesting alternate history. Well done!
@BigSchim4 ай бұрын
These are definitely really good "what if's" for HOI4. It's all well and fun to do the funny things decisions let you do for all of the nations but I really liked this style where you're feeling out where they might have gone next in our world not just the videogame world because it's easy from some decision tree.
@lagaudet6 ай бұрын
pov me watches stakuyi become mexican arms dealer has to do work few hours later goes back to video sees new video YIPPEEEEEEEEEEE
@johnkerich8766 ай бұрын
You forgot to talk about how the manufactory was very customized and hand created. They did not use assembly line processes. So everything took forever to was very expensive and in small quantities.
@notagooglesimp87224 ай бұрын
During the lockdown this was my favorite way to play. Also playing as Spain and joining the Axis.
@paulmurray34596 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this one, where we see where different decisions could have resulted rather than using exploits. : )
@MolemanITA3 ай бұрын
As an italian, i would say that there was also tactical incompetence. In North Africa were transported 100k men, without the logistics to support them. They were almost all captured. Africa theater needed smaller, faster forces. Trying to invade Greece from the mountains border with Albania, hoping that Greece just give up, was a disgrace.
@Veronika77775 ай бұрын
Very interesting alternate timeline. Thank You, that was fun. 💜
@theinquisitor81123 ай бұрын
"NATIONALIZATION! No, wait --" Lol, love it.
@molok14803 ай бұрын
never did I expect to learn history from hoi4 beyond what country was what and where
@connor72724 ай бұрын
Dude I love this type of video. Doing shit ingame that realistically could have happened with competent leadership
@kristofevarsson690310 күн бұрын
That Yugobania double-whammy was super tasty. Loved that.
@isaacgriffin56906 ай бұрын
I love this format. Great video! It be great to see the alternative if Italy resisted Germany in Austria.
@vewaddell5 ай бұрын
I hate playing Italy. That said, your approach of describing historic events and alt history potentials was very compelling. I enjoyed this video so much that I may even try to play Italy again based on the understanding you’ve provided. Also, you’ve got a new subscriber. I look forward to more videos like this - less meme buttonology and more insightful background. I hope this style gains you many more subscribers. Well done!
@relupo24464 ай бұрын
why do you hate play Italy?
@inductivegrunt946 ай бұрын
Simply by being prepared Italy became a serious powerhouse. What if the US abandoned neutrality in the late 30s? Like maybe caused by the Sino-Japanese War, the Spanish Civil War, or the Invasion of Poland.
@Azarian7715 ай бұрын
To pacify ethiopia regularly you need all the help you can get to generate enough compliance it's not an easy task, you need to put the resistance law on civilian administration, put anti-resistance spies in their territory, do the amhara rulers focus and also the emperor of ethiopia focus alongside developing ethiopia and clicking all the development decisions and only then you barely get above 60% but I have fun doing it and I hate having to deal with puppets in HOI4 so i always do it anyway xd
@joaojonito37643 ай бұрын
Love this series
@oloingseachy6 ай бұрын
This was a brilliant video, so glad you picked that comment!
@leserb92286 ай бұрын
I have a game idea! What if Yugoslavia fixed its problems before the war? It is best done through the disolusion and reunification path of the focus, where you can cheese it by letting the little puppets go down their own focuses for some time before reunification.
@eragonenfrancais13426 ай бұрын
I'm not gonna lie, I saw you and I was like "oh look the lame guy with a cool wife is making hoi videos!" and watched it just to check it out, but it's really good!! keep it up
@themedic3666 ай бұрын
Man I am really liking these videos
@sebastianthompson80363 ай бұрын
Great video it's like a documentary with HOI love it
@niknitro87514 күн бұрын
I can't believe he didn't think about retaking Konstantinopel.
@nicolazanini59024 ай бұрын
21:50 actually, Italy officially joined the war in 1940, when France seemed to be falling. During this time Mussolini effectively talked also with the Allied, but seen the way the war was going, he tried to get on the winning side and join in the War against France... And the rest is history..
@Chance-tv2jn6 ай бұрын
What if the republicans won the 1936 greek elections and brought back the mengali idea, establishing themselves as the beacon of democracy in the balkans.
@Mario_With_a_D4 ай бұрын
As Italian I imagined the map at the end of the video many times, since I was a kid and studied this historical time for the very first time, since I was a kid I said to myself: what if Italy was not beaten in Ethiopia?
@hjphantom669311 күн бұрын
I played (more or less lore accurate) competent Italy. That meant joining the axis and being more far competent than Germany. Then immediately having a a revolution once Germany starts loosing against the soviets, joining the allies and getting more territory out of WW2 even though I technically didn't do anything to help.
@Serpico24063 ай бұрын
Me, an Italian reading the title of the video. "I do love fantasy"
@mikepowell86114 ай бұрын
How can this be a new Roman Empire without Constantinople? It's right there, beckoning.
@sahilhossain82045 ай бұрын
Ah yes the resurgence of Pax Romana Invicta be like 🇮🇹🇲🇨🇸🇲🇻🇦 🗿👌😎👍:
@Nichalio51915 ай бұрын
This dude makes also content while giving us history lessons I mean props dude
@FuelDropforthewin6 ай бұрын
What if Italy was competent is the ultimate counterfactual alternate history.
@Lordvorius6 ай бұрын
I love this style of video. Please do more HOI4 alt-history lessons!