What if Italy Sided with The Allies in WW2? (The Stresa Front COULD Have Happened)

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What if FACIST ITALY sided with UK and France? That could have happened
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@stakuyi
@stakuyi 8 күн бұрын
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@tsamoka6496
@tsamoka6496 4 күн бұрын
Hi Stakuyi! If you think it'd be worth it, I think a playthrough of the Youjo Senki Redux mod would be fun to see. Please? It would really make my day. =^x^=
@viggoforster
@viggoforster 9 күн бұрын
What if Trotsky couped the USSR?
@Stuff_can_be_nice.
@Stuff_can_be_nice. 9 күн бұрын
I was just gonna say that
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 9 күн бұрын
How?🤣 HoI4 works on althistory logic where there IS a plot inside USSR. But Stak tries to make realistic scenarios and thus there is no plot to exploit, only incompetence and paranoia.
@piyo744
@piyo744 9 күн бұрын
@@TheArklyte there was a plot inside the USSR; the question isn't "was there a plot", but "how extensive was it?" and to that it's really hard to say. undeniable proof of a plot against the central committee in the USSR relies on two things: the personal correspondence of trotsky (which, as proven by a series of letters between himself and his son leon sedov that were confirmed to be legitimate by independent french investigators, lays out that a trotskyist anti-government bloc was formed and created in the government to start working against it in secret) and reliable testimony, the latter of which is far less common than the first. at the very least multiple factions formed to oppose the government and _some_ engaged in wreckage, but there's no proof that _most_ engaged in wrecking nor even that most wanted to overthrow the government. one's also gotta take into account that the absolute worst of the yezhovschinha was done _by_ yezhov without orders from the central committee or even the supreme soviet, which is ultimately why he was purged in 1938 and replaced (although the government's knowledge of yezhov's actions is debatable at best). if you want my take, i think the plot existed and had plans but it wasn't nearly as large as the government thought. it wasn't going to overthrow the government, but it was a threat; a threat whose explicit purpose was to start a second revolution. it wasn't large nor terrifically dangerous, but it existed and sabotaged the USSR to at least _some_ extent.
@nathanplays5514
@nathanplays5514 9 күн бұрын
@@TheArklytethat’s true, Trotsky had about 0 support in the ussr, everyone supported Stalin over him (because Stalin bribed them with positions early in his political career), and also because Trotsky had no way of realistically getting back in the ussr.
@scyobiempire4450
@scyobiempire4450 9 күн бұрын
edit: the ‘new1930’ is set in (shockingly) 1930, under a year after Trotsky’s exile. if strict realism is a barrier, this mod may work. not sure if it’ll need console commands or not as it is relatively easy (original comment below) more realistically would be right opposition with cooperation with the left into return democracy to the party *however*, Trotsky USSR is very fun with the free war goals and uprisings behind enemy lines
@MARK-gp9hb
@MARK-gp9hb 9 күн бұрын
We did it guys, thanks to everybody who voted for this scenario and to Stakuyi for making this video
@privatecanook
@privatecanook 9 күн бұрын
Brother has had his peace
@nonverbalpie8151
@nonverbalpie8151 9 күн бұрын
HOORAY!
@thedeadlydevils9130
@thedeadlydevils9130 9 күн бұрын
We did it, WE DID IT ATLAST
@jackthorton10
@jackthorton10 Күн бұрын
Huzzah!
@BORLMBK
@BORLMBK 9 күн бұрын
What if the Saarland offensive was an actual offensive? (What if the allies attacked at the start of the war instead of barely pushing in and maintaining defensive positions then leaving?)
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
Mmmh they weren't ready for a full scale war in our timeline, they would have gotten crushed. But say they got more prepared in this new timeline then Germany wouldn't get a chance, that front was guarded very lightly and with enough preparation from the allies they could have got to the rhine, idk how things would go from then though, probably a stalemate over the river
@mik3ehrmentraut
@mik3ehrmentraut 9 күн бұрын
Germany would've taken more time to take poland having now to move troops to the rhine. Possibly a new trench earfare would be born Italy would not join as it would see germany's strugle in the war
@thatoneguyiii1003
@thatoneguyiii1003 9 күн бұрын
What if the allies won the battle of France? (Everything up to 1939 is historical, but the Allies take react to the German push in the Ardennes and don’t get encircled at dunkirk)
@commissarkordoshky219
@commissarkordoshky219 9 күн бұрын
You mean - What if France's general staff wasn't incompetent?
@piyo744
@piyo744 9 күн бұрын
i stand by my take that this should've been what happened. the ardennes offensive should NOT have worked
@baileybrute5486
@baileybrute5486 9 күн бұрын
Signal boost
@noonespecial9704
@noonespecial9704 9 күн бұрын
​@@piyo744Never would've happened if the French invaded as soon as poland was invaded
@piyo744
@piyo744 9 күн бұрын
@@noonespecial9704 right, but what i mean is that the ardennes offensive _should not have worked_ because it was a really stupid idea
@ZoggFromBetelgeuse
@ZoggFromBetelgeuse 9 күн бұрын
There was a whispered joke (Flüsterwitz) going around in the 3rd Reich at the time: "My Führer, Italy has entered the war!" "No problem, we'll send a division to crush them." "No, no, they have entered the war on our side!" "Damn, this will cost us at least three divisions!"
@CVC174
@CVC174 9 күн бұрын
Average original funny comment in 2024:
@SketchG
@SketchG 7 күн бұрын
​@@CVC174Hey the joke was funny
@gabri-immortale
@gabri-immortale 7 күн бұрын
Fake british propaganda because they were salty of losing to italians with no guns lol
@redshirt0479
@redshirt0479 9 күн бұрын
What if instead of supporting Austria-Hungary, Imperial Germany took the opportunity to try to take its germanic lands? WWI or similar mod of course. Been really enjoying these alt-histories, especially since they go so much into the logical set up unlike most others.
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
In great war redux you can actually do that and it's incredibly easy to capture Austria. And also you can reform the holy roman empire if you do.
@guycrew3973
@guycrew3973 9 күн бұрын
Why’d they ever do that? It’s not a good look to destroy your only ally for land
@Gemoron
@Gemoron 9 күн бұрын
What if Germany would have never broken the Molotov-Ribbentrop-Pact (non agression treatie between Soviets and Germany)? Viewed from the side of the soviets, if possible
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 9 күн бұрын
Eventually Stalin would have broken it. Neither of them ever intended for it to last, Hitler just beat Stalin to the punch. Though if Stalin starts it, there’s a chance his “great patriotic war” rhetoric fails because the people don’t have a reason to side against Germany
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
​​@@ntfoperative9432 the ussr was a very unstable state at the time, you could say that ww2 helped it become more stable. If Stalin declared First there wouldn't be enough propaganda that could convince say the Baltics or the Ukrainians to fight, and many russians would probably sway to the germans too. Perhaps the ussr could win still, but with waaaaay greater losses and much more discontent among the population of the union, perhaps the soviet union would dissolve way before 1991 in this timeline due to the discontent and general independence sentiments across the union
@theoutlander1411
@theoutlander1411 9 күн бұрын
@@ntfoperative9432 From what I've seen, Stalin admired Hitler and he likely wouldn't have broken the pact seeing Hitler as an ally against Capitalism.
@heiskanbuscadordelaverdad8709
@heiskanbuscadordelaverdad8709 9 күн бұрын
A lot of things would need to happen for that to be possible first one big part of nazi ideology was their opposition to communism and their desire for the lands in the east as living space second the nazis would need an alternative avenue for expansion maybe focusing on Scandinavia and maybe southeast europe and even then the Soviets would had need offer a lot of their resources specially oil to Germany at low and reliable prices
@elseggs6504
@elseggs6504 9 күн бұрын
​@@theoutlander1411 Translation: He was waiting for Germany to fight in France so he can attack them while theyre distracted
@georgebettasso1395
@georgebettasso1395 9 күн бұрын
What if Mussolini wait a little longer to declare war and not going to war on June 10, 1940 but wait until 1942.
@JacobFraps
@JacobFraps 9 күн бұрын
At this time the usa, had already invaded north Africa from vinchy France, using both fronts the Italians would likely be crushed in libya in 1 month.
@georgebettasso1395
@georgebettasso1395 9 күн бұрын
@@JacobFraps well no because if Italy would have waited for two years. If will be different in 1940 the a Italian navy out number the British royal navy 3 to 1.
@JacobFraps
@JacobFraps 9 күн бұрын
@@georgebettasso1395 true true but At this point USA was in the war which would make that null, also its the Italian navy were talking about hehe
@georgebettasso1395
@georgebettasso1395 9 күн бұрын
@@JacobFraps well that the problem when Italy 🇮🇹 declared war too early and was unprepared for modern war at the time in 1940. Still if the U.S. was to invade North Africa their still a lot of issues the Italian Air Force, Navy, then the Italian Army would have been more better equipped and trained, when the war broke out in June 1940 Italian Army still had 17 divisions that were under 50 % ready. That needed to be equipped, trained, organized.
@JacobFraps
@JacobFraps 9 күн бұрын
@@georgebettasso1395 no I mean the usa had control of north Africa already in 1942, libya would be a 2 front war for the Italians. Giving italy time too prepare would also give the allies more time too prepare, resulting in the exact same fate
@axolotl_ink
@axolotl_ink 9 күн бұрын
What if Sweden wasn't neutral during ww1
@JedidiahPang
@JedidiahPang 9 күн бұрын
Don't forget what if sweden joins the axis in ww2
@obiwankenobi7306
@obiwankenobi7306 6 күн бұрын
@@JedidiahPang thats quite unlikely due to the continued pressure Sweden received from both the allies and Germany alike. A more viable scenario would be something along the lines of ''What if Sweden defended Finland against the Soviets?''. In this scenario Sweden declares war against Soviet Union to defend Finland.
@xdesai
@xdesai 9 күн бұрын
What if Poland accepted German demands and invaded the Soviet Union by their side
@mik3ehrmentraut
@mik3ehrmentraut 9 күн бұрын
The axis would've lost anyways, but russia would've had far more losses
@balinthehater8205
@balinthehater8205 8 күн бұрын
​​​@@mik3ehrmentrautbritain and france would not have been pulled into the war though, which means germany would not declare war on the americans in 1941 because they would not be cobeligerents. The germans would not have needed to garrison the western front, would not have taken the casualties from western/northern europe and there would be no bottomless pit of resources that was rommel in africa. In short, the soviet union would be doomed. No lend lease(at least not on a massive scale), no extra fronts and with the polish military on the axis side.
@mik3ehrmentraut
@mik3ehrmentraut 8 күн бұрын
@@balinthehater8205 well, if the allies don't get involved (unlikely) then yeah you are right
@korgalis
@korgalis 7 күн бұрын
germany would do to poland what they did to czech republic.
@Ashie690
@Ashie690 9 күн бұрын
What if the Little Entente protected Czechoslovakia against Germany in the Munich Diktat?
@jimbecker95
@jimbecker95 9 күн бұрын
What if France expanded the maginot line?
@mik3ehrmentraut
@mik3ehrmentraut 9 күн бұрын
Would've helped to repell the germans for some months, but due to the budget focused now on building forts rather than upgrading rhe army, the french would still fall. (A maginot line in the nord wpuld take more than 3 years tho)
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
The Maginot line is a very complex subject, it was supposed to continue into Belgium, but Belgium was against it as it was a neutral state, then the purpose of the Maginot line changed, it was supposed to convey the German forces through Belgium, the french expected them to attack it. But they weren't expecting blitzkrieg tactics so the french army got crushed, then the government surrendered.
@cassu6
@cassu6 9 күн бұрын
@@mik3ehrmentraut I don't think so. French had more than enough money to keep their army upgraded. They just didn't know how war in the 40s would be fought. I don't think the German forces could've ever punched through the maginot if it covered the whole front. Also it would've given the allies so much extra time to mobilize and learn.
@mik3ehrmentraut
@mik3ehrmentraut 9 күн бұрын
@@cassu6 well, the french army in 1939-1940 still didn't use radio for coordination, had a poor military staff organizzation as well as having politcal/internal problems. Even if they managed to make a new maginot, new ways would've been found. Either a breakthrough throo the switz alps or, an invasion coordinated with the luftwaffen of strategic points of the new maginot. Either way, the terrain near belgium made any fortifications 10x more costly due to forests ecc.
@thomasgatley624
@thomasgatley624 9 күн бұрын
What if the October Revolution never happened? (But the February Revolution still did)
@randomacronym3628
@randomacronym3628 9 күн бұрын
What if Greece held against the German invasion in 1940?
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
Literally how though?
@mik3ehrmentraut
@mik3ehrmentraut 9 күн бұрын
Germany and italy would've sent more troops to fight the greeks Germany would delay barbarossa by 1 year Greece would fall due to it's inferior industry not able to maintan the war effort Italy and germany would fall before, in the start of 1945 due to attrition suffered to conquer and garrison a stronger and better greece
@guycrew3973
@guycrew3973 9 күн бұрын
@@mik3ehrmentrautyou think Greece could delay Barbarossa for an entire year?
@ordinaryrat
@ordinaryrat 7 күн бұрын
@@guycrew3973 If Greece held against a German Invasion, I don't think Germany would ever launch Barbarossa lol. It would be such an embarrasing loss that HGasChamberGuy would probably fully restructure the German Army.
@GamingTillLate
@GamingTillLate 9 күн бұрын
What if Japan went plan north & in a pre WW2 Bismarkian move, incited the USSR to attack them and subsequently get dog-piled by the Anti-Comintern Pact?
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
This one's really interesting, i don't think japan had the necessary strength to fight both china and the ussr though, they would lose that very badly
@GamingTillLate
@GamingTillLate 9 күн бұрын
@@giulianopisciottano8302 I've always thought if I were Japan, I would have tried to sign a peace with China just for a few provinces after a year or two
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
​@@GamingTillLate i dont think china would have accepted, remember that there was a nationalist government in charge at the time (not many remember that chiang kai shek was as much of a dictator as mao)
@guycrew3973
@guycrew3973 9 күн бұрын
@@GamingTillLatethere’s no way in hell that the Japanese would do that and i doubt the USSR would declare war stalin was horrified of getting dogpiled also the Japanese will never do that they’d see as dishonorable
@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 8 күн бұрын
Attempt 9: (Using the Great War Redux again) What if Italy honored the Triple Alliance and eventually joined the Central Powers when WWI comes around?
@treyangle3909
@treyangle3909 9 күн бұрын
What if the Soviet Union collapsed into several smaller states in a civil war?
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
You mean like during the second russian civil war in game or during the first one? Because during the first one it did collapse into smaller states, but they were quickly recaptured by the Soviets
@Fanstic10
@Fanstic10 9 күн бұрын
What if Bulgaria won the Second Balkan War? (GreatWarRedux)
@mrnorms
@mrnorms 9 күн бұрын
What if the Moroccan Crisis started WW1?
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
Good one
@mrnorms
@mrnorms 8 күн бұрын
​@@giulianopisciottano8302Thx
@slime5182
@slime5182 9 күн бұрын
The Strassa Front is in the base game, and you can even do it as both France and Italy, I think you can also do ir as England but I'm not sure on that part.
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
You can't but you can form a faction with Italy if the uk is fascist
@glauberglousger956
@glauberglousger956 9 күн бұрын
You can definitely do it as France​@@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
@@glauberglousger956 as France yes, but I wasn't referring to them, I was referring to the UK
@kingslothii8557
@kingslothii8557 9 күн бұрын
What if France didn't treat World War 2 as if it was going to be another World War 1?
@Dolphin_7084
@Dolphin_7084 9 күн бұрын
What if Tannu Tuva refused being annexed? (Must start in 1936)
@JackdawMiles
@JackdawMiles 9 күн бұрын
What if King Edward refused to abdicate?
@PsychKenn23
@PsychKenn23 9 күн бұрын
I enjoyed this what if concept. I'd add that at the end Italy would more than likely ally with Spain. Once the European democracies didn't have "mustache man" as a spooky threat they'd start to see the fascist regimes in a more hostile light. It would only make sense that the other big fascist state in Europe would align with Italy, especially given the aid given during the Spanish civil war.
@blackrain711
@blackrain711 9 күн бұрын
America actually joined the League of Nations with Teddy Roosevelt in charge.
@interficere4129
@interficere4129 9 күн бұрын
5:22 Yup, he deleted the entire fleet, not just a BB XD
@vraptor313
@vraptor313 9 күн бұрын
What if America went down the Monroe Doctrine
@bolieve603
@bolieve603 8 күн бұрын
Came here to say this. What if America just stuck with economic progress and stayed totally out, then tried to expand it's sphere of influence in the Americas, perhaps annexing Panama and Cuba
@vraptor313
@vraptor313 8 күн бұрын
@@bolieve603yes this is what I was trying to say but was not creative enough
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 9 күн бұрын
it's funny, but Mousolini is way more similar to the focus descriptions than you'd think, especially before the second word war
@michaelreadman8493
@michaelreadman8493 9 күн бұрын
What if Joseph Chamberlain's idea of an imperial confederation between the British empire and it's colonies had actually occured?
@markmarano913
@markmarano913 8 күн бұрын
Thank you Stak! I've been waiting for the chance to find out more about the Stresa Front - I mean I could have researched it for myself, but that wouldn't have been as fun as seeing it demonstrated through HoI4!
@wariorwolf
@wariorwolf 9 күн бұрын
Speaking of mass chemical warfare in Ethiopia (5:59), what if that happened in europe during WW2? Germany had huge stockpiles of Sarin and the UK stockpiled Anthrax, so in my eyes it's more surprising it didn't happen.
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
The big H man got hit by gas during the first world war and swore to himself to never use it in battle as he knew the pain and horror by first hand. That's mainly why it was never used really, A.H. Was just really against it.
@wariorwolf
@wariorwolf 9 күн бұрын
@@giulianopisciottano8302 True, but this is alt history. He was confronted with many horrors of war during ww1, but he came back in love with war. Only the gas scared him. So what if it didn't?
@semajniomet981
@semajniomet981 8 күн бұрын
Apparently Churchill REALLY wanted to fire off chemical weapons against Germany, but his generals disagreed with him.
@kingsimp1072
@kingsimp1072 8 күн бұрын
Thank you so much ive been dying for this
@nonverbalpie8151
@nonverbalpie8151 9 күн бұрын
OMG IT'S HERE!!! Thanks for delving into this suggestion that I and others have frequently requested. I always found this what if scenario highly fascinating and wanted your take on it and if it could've still happened. Again, thanks and I hope you have/are having a good time in Europe.
@leggit1454
@leggit1454 9 күн бұрын
What if the Britain and France stood up to the remilitarization of the Rhineland?
@Neptunes_Bounty
@Neptunes_Bounty 9 күн бұрын
A suprisingly wholesome timeline.
@DonArturo69
@DonArturo69 9 күн бұрын
What if South Amerca had more participation in WW2?
@danc3488
@danc3488 Күн бұрын
It's incredible to me the possibilities that would've opened up if Moustache Man had been assassinated before the war started. Wow.
@Oscifer11
@Oscifer11 9 күн бұрын
With their help, it would've taken only one year longer.
@adamklaits6379
@adamklaits6379 8 күн бұрын
What if France actually tried with their invasion of Germany in 1939 and tried to help Poland?
@bettaking4862
@bettaking4862 9 күн бұрын
What if Poland sided with Germany to only stab mustache man later in the war?
@redeyeczletsplay3235
@redeyeczletsplay3235 8 күн бұрын
What if Czechoslovakia would have resisted the Germans?
@Eterna7Plays
@Eterna7Plays 8 күн бұрын
This would be a good one.
@memesoldger1874
@memesoldger1874 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for doing this Stak! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR SO LONG
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept 8 күн бұрын
... given just how shafted Italy felt at Versailles? Yeah, that takes seriously extreme alien space bats to happen.
@Flying_kiwiYT
@Flying_kiwiYT 9 күн бұрын
FINALLY I have been asking for this for almost 2 MONTHS
@vetrovladwindmaster1724
@vetrovladwindmaster1724 8 күн бұрын
These videos are so amazing
@teadrinker1632
@teadrinker1632 9 күн бұрын
What if the Maginot line was expanded to cover all of Frances eastern boarder?
@Grampa_Swood
@Grampa_Swood 8 күн бұрын
France actually has an option in their tree for the Stresa Front, so you'd have to tag switch between the nations.
@aderader3920
@aderader3920 7 күн бұрын
What if war didnt actually break out in Europe until 1943, when the Italians and the soviets would be much more prepared.
@harmonicadude4732
@harmonicadude4732 9 күн бұрын
What happens if the Spanish civil war happened earlier and ended sooner. Then Spain joins the axis and goes in on France from the south.
@cheererobinson475
@cheererobinson475 7 күн бұрын
What if Australia was a power during ww1 and ww2? Like what would happen if the British built up Australia to be a bastion of British control in the pacific or Asia, or what if Oceania was united under British rule by a war with the Dutch and the territories given to Australia, or something along those lines.
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen 7 күн бұрын
Many people don't realize how different Mister NatSoc German Mustache Man and Mussolini were. They were FAR from natural allies like many people think.
@Burritodude227
@Burritodude227 9 күн бұрын
After so long, it finally happened
@Mr_Godmode
@Mr_Godmode 8 күн бұрын
What if the Ottomans survived after WW1 (they still lost it but weren't beaten afterwards) (6)
@undercoverboomer9692
@undercoverboomer9692 9 күн бұрын
This is one of the most interesting series on yt low key
@Crptokid111
@Crptokid111 Күн бұрын
It’s you from the YT shorts! No idea you had a HOI4 channel! So pumped to watch your videos
@mattister2575
@mattister2575 9 күн бұрын
I’ve been scrolling for hours thank you for having an appealing title
@wolfking9776
@wolfking9776 8 күн бұрын
My brain is fried first time reading the title is what if Italy sided with the aliens in ww2? lol
@Bagel121
@Bagel121 9 күн бұрын
A New Bagel Empire is formed in Germany during the interwar period
@detachedobserver
@detachedobserver 8 күн бұрын
Week 5 of asking @stakuyi to play Communist Hippogriffia in HoI4 EaW: Basically everything is mostly straght-forward, but I should notice that in case of losing North Zebrican War - Hippogriffia will get one of bad endings. Also you SHOULD be nice, otherwise Posada get depressed and commits nuclear self-un-aliving with 5 possible quick endings after that. In theory you can spare scientists for sweet-sweet bonuses only if you don't take other unethical options. Also side-note: Macawia does NOT affect on outcome, but if chose to get a puppet, they'll get a nice custom flag and also if you spare Razorbeak, she'll get amnesty at the end with a fun event. The last thing: No, you won't declare war on every nation, but you get a bunch of bonuses with new project of deep-penetration bomber(you need super-large airframe for that) and you need to justify on all supremacist nations(you get a discount on that too) until there will be left none and then press an event in the decisions. DO NOT USE H-BOMB!!! I REPEAT - NO ACTIVE THERMONUCES OR YOU'LL GET A SEMI-BAD END!!! It's a long run, but it's so op!
@Mr_Godmode
@Mr_Godmode 8 күн бұрын
What if the Qing survived (2)
@dominiccwhitaker
@dominiccwhitaker 9 күн бұрын
What if the allies kept going and waged war on the soviets immediately following WW2 like Paton wanted?
@mik3ehrmentraut
@mik3ehrmentraut 9 күн бұрын
Lot's of deaths and big booms (nukes) Either an allied victory or a treaty
@dominiccwhitaker
@dominiccwhitaker 8 күн бұрын
@@mik3ehrmentraut it’s the specifics and the longer lasting effects of that which fascinate me most about that. Especially considering the plan involved rearming the Germans immediately.
@BlackBanditXX
@BlackBanditXX 6 күн бұрын
Operation Unthinkable, Let's GO!
@CommanderKraft
@CommanderKraft 9 күн бұрын
What if Czechoslovakia rejected the German demands?
@Collin790
@Collin790 9 күн бұрын
1 Hour Special of What if Operation Unthinkable occurred after WW2 probably by using RT56
@poisonmgaming3705
@poisonmgaming3705 8 күн бұрын
What if the soviets struck first following the Munich conference.
@khmil_0
@khmil_0 9 күн бұрын
Finally! Been waiting a long time for this video.
@steelsightsman
@steelsightsman 9 күн бұрын
I could see another war breaking out over Romania; with the breakdown of the Italo-Soviet treaties.
@ANUBISseyes2
@ANUBISseyes2 9 күн бұрын
What if France didn’t discontinue their invasion of Germany at the start of the war?
@DevixianTheOriginal
@DevixianTheOriginal 9 күн бұрын
Not my choice, you're choice, I WAS LITERALLY THE DUDE WHO PITCHED THE IDEA IN YOUR COMMENTS!
@roach8676
@roach8676 9 күн бұрын
Do "What if Russia was competent in WW1"
@juicebox6581
@juicebox6581 7 күн бұрын
That's a crazy what if. The idea that Italy would ever go against hitler....wild....oh wait...
@facumod1932
@facumod1932 9 күн бұрын
Im unsure if you only do ww1 and ww2 videos of what if, but i could ask what would happen if the spanish empire never fell?. Based on the pax hispanica mod of victoria 3, that mod where instead of a british rule, the spanish were the biggest colonial superpower of their era, napoleon never betrayed spain in this timeline
@zecorezecron
@zecorezecron 9 күн бұрын
What if Hitler declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor? It's not like the Japanese were any help in Europe, and it would at the very least confuse the Americans.
@lawmannewman
@lawmannewman 8 күн бұрын
This was my choice! No idea what it was before but sounded super interesting! Great choice lol
@stello8745
@stello8745 9 күн бұрын
Itd be interesting if based off this, the soviets instead exerted pressure on Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, and maybe even Greece. This could lead to an interesting war between Italy and Russia. I could see the allies being a third member of a war in either a 3 way war or as a dogpile on either communism or fascism .
@adamhitchcock1203
@adamhitchcock1203 9 күн бұрын
I always wondered what is Italy hadn’t joined the axis. Especially given the animosity between mustache man and megalomaniac mousalini
@TheBlasphemite
@TheBlasphemite 8 күн бұрын
Alternate history always interests me as a history buff.
@user-iz2ii9se3i
@user-iz2ii9se3i 8 күн бұрын
What if Mexico joined World War One, with the central powers.
@chadpemberton3687
@chadpemberton3687 4 күн бұрын
Hey Stakuyi I had recently found your channel and have greatly enjoyed your hoi4 alternate history videos. I think I have one for you to try. What if Germany continued to back China instead of Japan?
@TylerTNF
@TylerTNF 4 күн бұрын
What if Poland accepted germanys demand for Danzig and the corridor and enacted a NAP and independence guarantee? The dahlerus deal
@glauberglousger956
@glauberglousger956 9 күн бұрын
5:20 That's... Not a battleship hull, but considering the Panzerschiffs definitely break a few treaties while their battleships of the time didn't Fair enough
@obiwankenobi7306
@obiwankenobi7306 6 күн бұрын
What if Sweden instead of just sending volunteers and equipment, actually helped Finland defend itself against the soviets? What im trying to say is, ''What if Sweden joined the winter war to defend Finland?''.
@MeLikeSushi
@MeLikeSushi 7 күн бұрын
17:56 what most of us fail to understand is that Mustache Man was not actually that much of an idiot. He had painted an image to he's people that he was a man of peace and a declaration of war to Austria seems very unrealistic to me. Also he would recognise the fact that he's country was not ready for war yet and if a war on Austria would happen it would happen a lot later.
@nolifealan9746
@nolifealan9746 9 күн бұрын
I was always suggesting this one I'm glad to see it
@gemberkoekje
@gemberkoekje 3 күн бұрын
What if the Polish ultimatum was accepted by Poland (or forced upon by the allies), say as an even more extreme form of appeasement by the allied forces?
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer 12 сағат бұрын
Honestly, with how Nationalistic Poland was at this time I could see them aligning with Italian Interests. Definitely if the Italians support Hungarian claims in Slovakia which Poland uses to claim territories too and the Italians are all for it Meaning we could see a more "moderate" Southern-Eastern European focused Axis led by Italy instead of the extreme Nazi-Led Axis
@user-bl4ie1bv4c
@user-bl4ie1bv4c 9 күн бұрын
What if the allies gived the land that italy wanted in WW1
@mik3ehrmentraut
@mik3ehrmentraut 9 күн бұрын
Fascism would still rise due to internal instability Italy would side with the allies like in the video
@XHU524-OFSET5
@XHU524-OFSET5 9 күн бұрын
Yea, I really wanted to see this!
@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja
@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja 8 күн бұрын
I didn't vote for the Stresa Front as other options were more interesting. If you watch Hoi4 content, you usually are well enough versed in WW2 to know what the Stresa Front was.
@Dutch_Man68
@Dutch_Man68 9 күн бұрын
What if Bulgaria won in both balkan wars, and world wars (if allies in ww2)
@GunGoBoom
@GunGoBoom 9 күн бұрын
What if Operation Market Garden succeeded? This could be done by putting more effort into paratroopers. It was designed to bring the allies to Berlin by Christmas, which would result in a larger Western control over Europe than Soviet
@Astuddd
@Astuddd 9 күн бұрын
I’m hyped fr
@Onebadterran
@Onebadterran 8 күн бұрын
What if Brazil had imperial ambitions to conquer south america?
@TheJonnyjoh
@TheJonnyjoh 9 күн бұрын
Is this one of the only ways how the holocaust could've been prevented?
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 9 күн бұрын
It was already in full swing, there would be way less deaths though. There are a few way it could be prevented though. If AH died during the first world war (but we don't know maybe someone worse could have taken his place, someone like goering or Himmler), or if the people of Germany voted differently, if AH was kept in his prison, if Hindenburg didn't suddenly die, if the Versailles treaty was less harsher, if the Versailles treaty was way harsher, if Germany got help rebuilding after ww1, if the Weimar constitution was written by competent people and didn't have holes as big as a Whore Vagina. Lots of possibilities really
@TheJonnyjoh
@TheJonnyjoh 8 күн бұрын
@@giulianopisciottano8302 But didn't the holocaust only start in earnest in 1941? Yes, the germans did discriminate against the jews and slavs since 1933/34 and the nazis did start segregating and deporting jews with the invasion of Poland (September 1939), but (according to wikipedia) the systematic killing of interred jews started only after the invasion of Poland ("Final Solution" starting in late 1941). Since in Steves Simulation the Second World War never really happened and AH even died before Poland would've been invaded in our timeline, doesn't that mean that the holocaust never really happened? It's also worth to mention that, according to a 2019 paper, roughly one third of all jews killed during the holocaust died between August and October of 1942. I unfortunately couldn't find any reference to numbers of jews killed per year, to see how the kill-rates were before or after this peak, but since most sources only start counting after 1941, I can only assume that the systematic deportation and murder of holocaust victims only started after that.
@deplorabledegenerate2630
@deplorabledegenerate2630 8 күн бұрын
My suggestion is the same thing in this video, but Anschluss still goes through. Reminder how much the French and British public did NOT want another war and that how much German tampering there was in Austria's decision to join the Reich is hotly contested. Many Austrians DID want union with Germany. Since things would turn out very similar if a war broke out over the Sudetenland, appeasement will continue until morale improves/all hell breaks loose.
@CodyMacArthurFett
@CodyMacArthurFett 9 күн бұрын
What if Stalin invaded Europe? (Basically the Command & Conquer: Red Alert 1 scenario.)
@tacomeister4130
@tacomeister4130 9 күн бұрын
What if Belgium knew about the blitz (video two of asking)
@Ltolli06_
@Ltolli06_ 9 күн бұрын
What if the soviets attacked first? Basically instead of germans breaking Molotov-Ribbentrop the Soviets did?
@string_fellow_hawk
@string_fellow_hawk 8 күн бұрын
Lack of History teachers that students connect to is causing the rapid decline in knowledge of the subject . Then add propaganda that can lead to not trusting what is written. Thanks for the videos, hope you enjoyed the trip. ❤❤
@joshualoganhoi4
@joshualoganhoi4 9 күн бұрын
Marshall Balbo in particular was quite Anglophilic.
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