Nothing can ever top Heil being robbed of that win over Lewallen for me, because there's nothing even remotely difficult/arguable about the call. He so incredibly clearly won the match.
@genghiskhan7041 Жыл бұрын
Bad refs. Seems like that's all the NCAAs has anymore: bad refs.
@talex3844 Жыл бұрын
@@genghiskhan7041 you can’t say bad refs - the mat ref asked the table workers to run it off. This was clearly the NCAA being dirty - refusing to own up to a blatantly obvious mistake. DUMB.
@kristianfagerstrom7011 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, being robbed of olympic gold is obviously nothing in comparison....
@mikeymoss6281 Жыл бұрын
@Kristian Fagerström much lower stakes obviously... It's still a worse call in a vacuum. It's the dumbest officiating decision I've seen in any sport. It's so outrageously clear.
@genghiskhan7041 Жыл бұрын
@@kristianfagerstrom7011 International reffing is probably even worse than college. Jake Herbert, among others, got screwed over and over again by international refs.
@tylergoodwin3546 Жыл бұрын
Both times the NCAA messed up screwed a small school team and rewarded a higher profile one. Horrible for the sport
@tylergoodwin3546 Жыл бұрын
The guy that won the bronze in the first video actually had MULTIPLE matches with extremely suspicious calls going in his favor. One of the matches was against Frank Gomez and Cael was interviewed and stated how horrible it was. He had another where they changed a call at the last second in his favor and then this one.
@tylergoodwin3546 Жыл бұрын
Hence why the crowd is booing. They all watched olympics refs fix matches for that guy. Big scandal
@kieranmcguire5470 Жыл бұрын
Brian Realbuto went to my club lol. John Degl's Iowa Style Wrestling in Somers, NY. Realbuto is the best we've ever had
@CarolinaBlood704 Жыл бұрын
Next Controversies: Johnny Hendricks vs Ryan Churella (2006 NCAA Finals) Beau Mantanona vs Michael Gioffrey (2022 CIF Finals) Luke Lanno vs Nick Menditto (2007 NJSIAA Finals) Edit: Bonus Points: Starpoint Wrestling s*xual assault
@consciousstream5036 Жыл бұрын
Joe Rau V John Stefanowicz, Olympic Trials finals match 1, 2021
@rustygray5058 Жыл бұрын
The incorrect score is the most baffling to me. You would think that literally anyone could say to the scoring table "hey, the score is wrong" and they would do a quick double check. And it's not like they appealed the next day - it was pointed out immediately, before the erroneous overtime began. It's not like the ref called it wrong - the scoring table just neglected to put it on the display. It's appalling to think that whatever amateur has been thrown on the scoring table could have more impact on the official score of the match than the referee does.
@clim007citycollege Жыл бұрын
More controversies please… super informative
@gimptf9273 Жыл бұрын
I was told by a Mongolian wrestler friend of mine that the display is a cultural thing. They take their clothes off and hand it to the officials- which means you robbed me- take everything else I have.
@bayasgalantsogtgerel3346 Жыл бұрын
As an actual Mongolian I have never ever heard of such blatant bullshit of a lie spew out from someone’s mouth. The coaches were heavily criticized for their misconducts in Mongolia.
@gimptf9273 Жыл бұрын
@@bayasgalantsogtgerel3346 Not going to get too far into this. I didn't say it was a generally approved thing in Mongolia. I was just saying what I was told by another Mongolian wrestler about what it meant. You did see the coach take the clothes and offer them to the official, didn't you? What else might it mean?
@bayasgalantsogtgerel3346 Жыл бұрын
@@gimptf9273 like I said, I’m a Mongolian who has lived their entire life in Mongolia and we have no such traditions or anything of the sort of stripping our clothes off and offering our them to make a statement about how someone robbed them of something. In fact it was even an unwritten rule for thieves and robbers to not steal clothes and a person’s horse as it was there mean to get home and not freeze to death since Mongolian winter’s can reach -40 Celsius in winters. I can assure you there is no Mongolian that would ever bother to make such a blatant lie of a statement when it is widely known that not even robbers would take your clothes. If you wanted internet brownie points you should have made a better lie on a subject you were more aware and knowledgeable of.
@gimptf9273 Жыл бұрын
@@bayasgalantsogtgerel3346 Call me a liar all you want. It happened. (That a Mongolian wrestler told me that) And again, I ask you to think about what you're saying given that the coach did exactly what he did. It must have meant something to him. You haven't come up with a better explanation. And just so you understand my relationship with Mongolian wrestlers- the FILA (now called UWW) World Championships were held in Madison Square Garden in 2003. I worked the head table with the computer operations (I did similarly at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta). In the run-up to the tournament the various country teams found places to stay and train. It just happened that the Mongolians trained at a private Benedictine school in Newark, NJ (St Benedict's) where I knew the coaches/AD and headmaster since the 70s. After the games the Mongolians were very impressed with the school- so much that they sent several wrestlers there that were graduating HS around that time. One became a multiple time D3 champ and at least one more became a D1 All American. I became friends with a number of them. When I saw the situation I contacted one of them (I think on Facebook) and he told me what it meant.
@bayasgalantsogtgerel3346 Жыл бұрын
@@gimptf9273 like I said prior, I’ve never heard of such a tradition or an act of stripping and trying to give their clothes to the referee’s or judges as an act to exemplify that you have stolen everything from me. The coaches were heavily criticized for their misconduct and the wrestler even stated later that he felt a bit embarrassed for what had happened that day(he never specified what exactly made him embarrassed but we can all come to the same conclusion on that). All in all, I want to say is that Mongolia or Mongolian wrestling never had such a tradition of stripping down so either you are lying out of your teeth’s or that supposedly Mongolian wrestler has no idea what he is talking about.
@rosstrent1877 Жыл бұрын
I'm #TeamMongolia on this one.
@StaleMates Жыл бұрын
Same!
@TOGGGAA1 Жыл бұрын
They made fools of themselves lol….
@djangojilderda4583 Жыл бұрын
I dont. if you start celebrating mid match and just disrespect your opponent like that you deserve to have it taken away from you
@Testosterooster Жыл бұрын
@@djangojilderda4583I guess the last 5 seconds mean mid match.
@metou3072 Жыл бұрын
James green is from 10 min from my house. He is a great example of a human being and I am proud to be in the area he came from
@eraserhead8548 Жыл бұрын
I knew the Mongolians did that, I didn’t know the crowd loved it. Hahaha
@GrugginNClubbin Жыл бұрын
Would you not?
@eraserhead8548 Жыл бұрын
@@GrugginNClubbin I did. I just wasn’t aware the crowd did. Hahaha
@philipdepasquale8687 Жыл бұрын
Remember watching most of the event live. There had been a couple super sketchy decisions by officials. I was cheering the coaches on too. The protest was bigger than just this match.
@eraserhead8548 Жыл бұрын
@@philipdepasquale8687 oh, for sure I wasn’t trying to knock the coaches. I absolutely love it when coaches fight for their athletes , but I will admit I did not watch it live.
@salvadorromero9712 Жыл бұрын
@@philipdepasquale8687 Why is everyone in the comments so solidly on the Mongolians' side? This looks like a good call; athletes should not be allowed to evade engaging so blatantly as the Mongolian did, literally taunting that he was doing. Almost daring the officials to the point of disrespect, let alone disrespect of his opponent. To justify the coaches' behavior and have people actually cheer them on with this behavior, I would think it would take one hell of a wronging, and it doesn't even look like they were wronged at all.
@genghiskhan7041 Жыл бұрын
That Mongolian dude was clearly ripped off.
@SaltyArmy Жыл бұрын
Sammie The Bull Henson was one of my favorite wrestlers growing up. I grew up next to Clemson University and remember him winning just before Title IX hit us hard. Miss that guy! Dude is still a beast and love watching his youngest making bigger strides as of recent collegiately as well! Side note: great video as usual! Maybe J'Den Cox missing weight for the last Olympic Games could've definitely been on this video as well. Also, you could probably add a 💩 ton of Russians who've gotten caught with their Steriod Program; but then again...knowing that federation; I'm sure the majority of information you'd attempt to find would be dug in deep. Also, you might've been able to add the Nolf/Hidlay NCAA Match where it had the very controversial call that allowed Nolf to go onto win it all. Obviously, there's people on both sides of the fence with that one, along with pretty much any 'controversial' decisions. But yeah, as far as American Freestyle/Folkstyle' News goes: the 2-3 that stick out in recent memory are J'Den missing weight, Valencia basically falling off the planet after his off the mat issues, & the Nolf 🆚 Hidlay match just a few years back. Regardless, awesome content & well done! Best sport on the planet! 👏
@genghiskhan7041 Жыл бұрын
I remember when Ian Miller got cheated. Damn shame.
@garrysekelli6776 Жыл бұрын
I still think that hulk Hogan defeating the Iron Sheikh was the most amazing wrestling match ever.
@scottsmith8486 Жыл бұрын
First video I've watched of yours, subscribed.
@billthebutcher2 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd love to see something on the myriad Cary Kolat controversies.
@tylergoodwin3546 Жыл бұрын
flowrestling made a documentary on it
@carlosramirez3733 Жыл бұрын
Y’all gonna go missing with this one haha the NCAA finna be upset
@stationq16 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe you guys aren’t at least at 100k
@StaleMates Жыл бұрын
Agreed!! Thank you!
@CarolinaBlood704 Жыл бұрын
Yet.
@dinocollins720 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video; thanks!
@misterbeeps Жыл бұрын
2:00 The Mongolian coach was 100% right here. 100%.
@daytonasayswhat9333 Жыл бұрын
Right about what?
@TheUSMCBELL Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content man!
@salvadorromero9712 Жыл бұрын
So much in the Miller Realbuto controversy would seem to hinge on the interaction between the officials and the Kent State coach. But unless they outright ordered him to sit down, and he basically said, I'm complying with your orders but I'm doing so under this additional protest; I know have a right to protest this decision and I'm being denied it and I protest that in addition--I the ultimate person to blame, certainly from Miller's perspective, is none other than the coach. It is one of the foremost responsibilities of a coach to pay attention to the match, to notice a rule violation or questionable call against his athlete, to protest on behalf of his athlete in the correct and timely manner, to know what that manner is and what his rights to protest are, etc. From his own testimony he was not sure what happened, and seems to rather have been waved off to sit down by the officials. However assertive they were, he certainly took it meekly and without making a stink otherwise he would have said so. He wasn't sure anyway and they said it was OK and he took that and was convinced to sit down. Whatever doubts he had, they plus his testicle size did not combine to make it something he was going to be confrontational over. It is certainly appropriate for a governing body to give coaches and/or athletes the ultimate responsibility to protest, and to make their failure to do so decisive, setting things up that way and avoiding the difficult and unsatisfying matter of reversing and unraveling things after the fact. Of course the officials were also in the wrong to have flubbed the call in the first place, and to have unprofessionally waved the coach off. But everyone should be aiming their contempt at the coach rather than demanding the result be overturned or even suggesting that the rules were bad for not permitting such a thing (as the timer rule was indeed a bad one that needed to be changed in the future).
@Slapthematwrestling Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another excellent video
@StaleMates Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching it!
@pryhosm Жыл бұрын
How did Kolat not make this video?
@BJJ808 Жыл бұрын
Last video braddah was right, I woulda launched the medal back at the people
@TheNotbadphonedaddy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for using a quote from one of the most overlooked, underappreciated, & underrated writers of our time. Mark Palmer. He no longer writes due to illness, but he was one of the best. Great human being on top of it too.
@daytonasayswhat9333 Жыл бұрын
Who?
@TheNotbadphonedaddy Жыл бұрын
@@daytonasayswhat9333 One of the best writers in amateur wrestling. That's who.
@daytonasayswhat9333 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNotbadphonedaddy lol. I didn’t know amateur wrestling had writers.
@TheNotbadphonedaddy Жыл бұрын
@@daytonasayswhat9333 websites, magazines, newsletters, ect. Some of these publications have been around for close to a hundred years.
@Kennelly414 Жыл бұрын
Love the video. My favorite yet and great info about the Mongolian Team. Do the Joe Rau robbery next please, still feel bad for the man and his story should be told
@daytonasayswhat9333 Жыл бұрын
Three year ban? Seems way excessive.
@joedirte1029 Жыл бұрын
So he’s the Swedish Cary Kolat.
@briannagaytan1528 Жыл бұрын
What about Rau’s retirement match?
@consciousstream5036 Жыл бұрын
Joe Rau Vs. John Stefanowicz, match 1 of 3. Olympic Trials 2021. Worst robbery I have ever seen. Cover it.
@chuckbarber8792 Жыл бұрын
Cary Kolat being robbed, repeatedly
@jacklunardi2136 Жыл бұрын
Love this vid
@StaleMates Жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in!
@zaalrottunda2804 Жыл бұрын
Ncaa is exactly how id expect a gov bureaucracy to run: completely incompetent and devoid of any remorse or responsibility
@Brucelee-pv6uf Жыл бұрын
Whaat was they thinking ???
@blumpkinspicelatte45802 ай бұрын
They should have had the Gia Sissaouri/Tom Brands match from the 1995 worlds on here. Gia got screwed on that fleeing the mat call. He should have won gold that year.
@_Moses44 Жыл бұрын
That's how they prepare to take down city wok too
@Pwnulolumad Жыл бұрын
lol at the coach stripping
@herbthompson8937 Жыл бұрын
That dude should've started acting like a Khan, the judges would've given him a W
@AldershotDave Жыл бұрын
Uzbekistan doesn’t have a silent “Z”! 😮
@krozz1 Жыл бұрын
They did Mongolia dirty ... Those refs should be banned for life and shamed
@enriqueshockwave Жыл бұрын
So basically ncaa sucks
@rachaelgravitt790 Жыл бұрын
😢
@laurbster2680 Жыл бұрын
brenden schuab
@socalastarte6727 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the Ian Miller match and thinking the better wrestler won. Miller was completely gassed and got outclassed in the 3rd period and OT by Realbuto. It definitely sucks for Miller, but he didn't even know what the score was, he simply was unable to stop the late scoring barrage by Realbuto. The good news in the Heil v Lewallen match is that nobody got Covid cause all the officials and coaches were wearing masks so they were "extra safe"
@rachaelgravitt790 Жыл бұрын
😂
@danieltrottier8599 Жыл бұрын
MASK......😆😆😆
@marcusrefsland7731 Жыл бұрын
Never new this
@StaleMates Жыл бұрын
Now you know!
@marcusrefsland7731 Жыл бұрын
@@StaleMates yeah big thx
@aryanjain8872 Жыл бұрын
@@StaleMates now he new😂😂
@n1mand Жыл бұрын
So...you lose because of refs and thats your fault?:D