Star Citizen 3.24.2 Is Trying To Avoid Another 3.18 Situation | New Features & Ships

[@SpaceTomato]

01:18 lol "Chapter Title" oops...

[@vrnorwaynorway6048]

Chris Robert is the biggest liar ever to make a video game, funny how all SC youtubers just ignore all the lies to push more shipsales

[@IvoGrissom]

All good, video was still very comprehensive. Love the quality SC coverage!

[@CitizenScott]

Fire your editor 😜

[@afterthought3746]

can't handle that. had to stop watching the video because of it 🤣

[@mastercheif878]

@@vrnorwaynorway6048 stay mad

[@svgPhoenix]

I have gone splat on the ground so many times because of the altimeter. Changing the readout to not use sea level is one of the most exciting things for me behind the Zeuss and MFDs

[@loIipz]

I don't even use it, I just scan neurotically so I can see where the ground is at night haha.

[@0PsychosisMedia0]

​@@loIipzor just go into 3rd person and land like normal.....

[@polblanes]

@@loIipz I do the same thing, because there's no night vision mode or something that automatically pings every half a second xD Honestly I have no idea how they've gone for so long without night vision stuff in a game where half the time you're flying in the dark.

[@detrix42]

I will still go splat-boom. Rarely do I look at the altimeter.

[@polblanes]

@@detrix42 we really need nv solutions x)

[@oserix]

No critique of your comments @spacetomato, but as a developer who has been a dev for 24 years, CIG has real version control and code design problems. We as customers shouldn't know so much about their internal code organisation. This just tells me they haven't designed their code in a sufficiently modular / decoupled way. The vibe (and it is a vibe, since I can't checkout the code and have a look for myself) is that their codebase is so big and so complex and co-dependant, that they rely on release branches as a compatibility platform for new features can be added to that branch. This doesn't mean those features will work on their target version, it simply means in isolation on an older code base, they work- mostly. They will still need to be functional, integration and end to end tested in their target version. If that sounds like I'm saying the testing isn't very useful, it is because that is exactly what I'm saying it is. Simplicity takes design and skill. Complexity is the default state when you have no clue. CIG's branching strategy is obviously complex. I'll leave it at that. /rant over

[@kmcm0]

@@oserix and 3.24.2 on 4.0 base code makes 0 sense with semantic versioning.

[@historyman9436]

@@kmcm0 Its mostly because they promised that 4.0 would be THE pyro and THE Server Meshing Patch. If they push a 4.0 without either, because *techncially* its the correct version number, they cause a MAJOR PR issue.

[@beny9360]

I wonder how much of the CryEngine is still in there. I’m mulling over your comment wondering about how branching would work with a game engine, or with their cloud based network stack. I presume you’re talking about something akin to git branching strategies.

[@b5fan504]

That is how altimeters work. all altitude's are relative to sea level. Height above ground (AGL) is a separate data point and should be in SC as well as IRL.

[@CyphDragon]

Not exactly true - _barometric_ altimeters are relative to the pressure they are configured for. Radar altimeters, however, aren't relative. Most modern jetliners have both types of altimeters and switch between them as appropriate. It's pretty easy to imagine a case in the future that barometric altimeters have been left behind for radar/lidar altimeters, because a) there is no pressure in space, b) the atmospheric density on different planets would likely also be different, which would require a recalibration of the system on every planet, and c) the ports used for baro altimeters are actually pretty fragile, and likely would not be a good option to be used on space-going craft. Far easier/cheaper/more reliable to have a downward-facing solid-state radar altimeter that doesn't require anything but power than the complex and fragile analog baro system that's used in aircraft...or even something more advanced than either concepts.

[@b5fan504]

@@CyphDragon true and you're on the edge of being pedantic and I love it. But the reference is sea-level or, ASL.

[@CyphDragon]

@@b5fan504 you miss my point...let me try simplifying. Can you answer these questions? -How would a baro altimeter work in the vacuum of space? -How would a baro altimeter work in environment with different atmospheric pressures at their sea-level equivalent? We already have technology arguably better than fragile baro altimeters, and have for decades. Current aircraft procedures, including references to ASL, were written when baro altimeters were the state-of-the-art, and haven't been changed because they're "good enough" and the aircraft industry as a whole generally reacts to new technology incredibly slowly...most GA aircraft still use leaded fuels ffs. Pretty sure you would be yelling about "MAH IMMERSION!" if our magic single-stage-to-orbit spaceships needed to be filled up on 100LL AvGas instead of hydrogen...but that is as widespread in modern aviation as baro altimeters and ASL reference points. I'll also note that current commercial aircraft rely on *radar* altimeters during take-off and landing, when knowing your altitude accurately is critical, not baro altimeters. Whatever the display is labeled, doesn't really matter. It's easy enough to change "ASL" to "AGL" or reinterpret the "s" to mean "surface" rather than "sea." Why would we ever imagine magic space ships would still be using technology that is already outdated and (slowly) being replaced?

[@Lord_Kantor]

That's actually a very good point about testing the 4.0 code base before SM comes online....because then when 4.0 comes it'll e mainly sm that we will be testing but already on a hardened code base.

[@justalex4214]

3.18 open ptu wasn't released in december, wave 1 was. I still remember this cos a buddy of mine purchased a month of subscription specifically to be able to play it. Open ptu came in february iIrc

[@ronelicabandi9706]

When ever I hear the surname Camacho the person that comes into my mind is President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho.

[@anferFFmax]

Only Camacho we'll ever need!

[@badbutton5869]

Brawndo! It's what the plants crave!

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

@@badbutton5869 Buy _why_ do they crave Brawndo?

[@arenomusic]

@GhostOfSnuffles It's got electrolytes

[@anferFFmax]

@@GhostOfSnuffles It has electrolytes!

[@maebusgaming7913]

So excited for the polaris.

[@Maddock_]

7:16 lmao the Terrapin with the heckin strobe light in the middle

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

We made it all the way to 3.17.5 before we got 3.18.0. If I remember correctly 3.17.5 was the 2952 IAE patch.

[@TimAyro]

7:47 I haven't heard the term Machinima in a decade. I aged so fast when you said that. 8:30 As a real world airline pilot, that's normal. MSL is way more useful than radar altimeter. We only use radar altimeters for landing since it's difficult to intuitively know where your wheels actually are when they're like 50 feet behind you and 30 feet below you.

[@CyphDragon]

Disagree with your 2nd point. It's only more useful today because of the way aircraft procedures are performed...which were written before radar altimeters were commonplace or reliable. Given that this is a space game, in the future, and we're visiting planets that aren't Earth, baro altimeters probably got ditched a long time ago, for spacecraft at least. Radar/lidar would likely be far more useful, given there isn't some new technology (perhaps alien in origin?) that's replaced even today's state-of-the-art. How would a baro altimeter work on a planet/moon with limited or no atmosphere? It wouldn't, so obviously a different tech is being used in our magic single-stage-to-orbit spacecraft...

[@warezit]

🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00:01 *🚀 Star Citizen 4.0 Soft Launch with 4.0 Code Base* - Introduction to the soft launch of Star Citizen 4.0, which is not the full version but uses the 4.0 code base. - Similar approach to previous updates like 3.18 and 3.17. 00:01:07 *🔄 Update Approach and Stability Goals* - Discussion on the approach to stabilize 3.24.2 and transition smoothly towards 4.0. - Focus on server meshing and backend technologies, differences between server meshing and PES. 00:03:19 *⚙️ Testing and Stability Efforts for 4.0* - Efforts to ensure 4.0 is stable by having extensive testing before the potential December release. - Addressing past issues with 3.18, highlighting the need for larger-scale player testing. 00:05:12 *🔧 Early Feature Testing with 4.0 Code Base* - Early use of the 4.0 code base for widespread testing, aiming to gather sufficient data at scale. - Potential features being tested early, including server meshing and technical previews. 00:06:07 *🛠️ Upcoming Features and UI Updates* - Summary of new features and updates coming in 3.24.18, such as UI improvements and new ship capabilities. - Mention of updates to character customization, audio, and ship altimeter functionality. 00:09:20 *🛰️ Ship Updates and Engineering Features* - Updates to ship systems like radar, HUD, power management, and life support in preparation for 4.0. - Changes in ship behavior and preparation for galactic view in star map. 00:10:43 *🎮 UI, Weapons, and Cloud System Updates* - Arena Commander frontend UI updates, new weapon introductions, and game controller improvements. - Enhanced cloud systems over AR Corp and potential GPU-based scatter system entry. 00:11:53 *📊 Summary of 3.24.2 Testing and 4.0 Preparation* - Summary of features in testing for 3.24.2, most aiming to prepare for 4.0. - Discussion on the quality of life updates and the focus on improving the end-of-year major release. Made with HARPA AI

[@chuckj4001]

Imagine if the next patch only focused on bug fixes, how many players would come back and then they drop 4.0 to test it with a bigger player base. It feels like they just pump out content and visuals but address next to no game breaking bugs

[@ironwarr]

Problem is that it's very rare only one cause for a bug, so if you fix it and then release content it might reappear again, making fixing it a large waste of time when they're in the content release phase of the development. Besides, even if you fix all the bugs it's not much of a game until server meshing, so there's that. We won't be seeing a change of direction in that regard until they reach a feature complete state, as much as it pains me to say, but it's the truth and we have to live with a buggy game for a couple more years

[@realnerdethan]

Great video SpaceT! Always helpful info in your content.

[@pirateradio8420]

I remember 3.0 vividly... it was a total mess, so I'm glad to see they are trying at least to make such a monumental patch as stable as possible by pre-loading as much as they can in 3.24.2 I am still bracing myself for the potential of 4.0 having some major issues, and at the same time I am very excited and get the feeling they are using some lessons learned to make this transition as painless as possible.

[@rhetor4mentor13]

it's a delight to have daily SpaceTomato videos, I'm addicted!

[@CBadger]

It's going to be good playing 3.24.x all the way up to 3.24.9¾ as they stabalise 4.0 for a Very SoonTM release. CIG mockery aside. I am very excited about the next few months of Star Citizen, albeit staying realistic with expectations.

[@MightyMe001]

Thank you once more for all you r great work you put into these reports. But most of all, I could listen constantly to your deep relaxed and wonderful voice. Honestly, ans I mean this truly as a compliment for you: have you ever thought about doing podcasts in the style of an App like "Calm"?

[@prismodon]

I think the Zeus is more corais sized than cutlass sized. It's more of a MSR competitor than a Spirit Competitor. RSI still doesn't have a Cutlass / Spirit sized comparison.

[@aedanmckee8698]

Are caves ever going to go procedural, it kind of sucks going through the same cave.

[@theonefrancis696]

Nothing will be procedural, the infrastructure is barely keeping itself together as it is.

[@ironwarr]

caves are intentionally hand crafted because its a fixed location on every planet, no reason for them to be procedural, would create too many inconsistencies

[@DanyF02]

NIce updates. Personally I just can't wait for them to update the connie, again... and finally remove those dumb struts that are exactly where you're looking when piloting.

[@CitizenScott]

Why would they take the time and energy to launch the new codebase in isolation if 4.0 is coming Q4? To me this reads like they know 4.0 is nowhere near ready so they're separating whatever they can get in ASAP before meshing. Not a bad thing at all in itself, actually a great idea to pre-test this stuff, but also not exactly confidence inspiring for the actual 4.0 timeline at this point.

[@hawkzulu5671]

At some point 3.24.2 is going to open up to the waves and then 4.0 will be in Evocati hands. Having 3.24.2 already using the 4.0 codebase means theres alot less stability testing that has to happen because alot of the code will already be in. The next phases of server meshing testing and things like 'pyro playground' can happen on builds that already have 4.0 code base.

[@CoWilco]

Great video

[@NotUnymous]

Just watched the ACG stream and he literaly needed 15 minutes constantly hitting a redeemer to destroy it. It was completly static. No real chase, dodges or anything fun was possible. Im not gonna lie, it was the epitome of boredom. 2000k player is nice. But what are they good for if fights are THAT boring. We realy should push this topic so that CIG understands how important it is and fix it asap. A space game without thrilling spacefights realy is a no go

[@DJB10T1C]

Just waiting for the other systems to be added dude, 6ou have bo idea what the mechanics and gameplay is gonna be like until everything they have planned is working together. The current game is missing alot of.mechanics so it's not what the game will actually be like. Just be patient -_-

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

2:40 - is that Pico Pico Pico valley? Where does that come from? Anyone know? Probably some SC video by CIG themselves, but link?

[@leslieviljoen]

I wonder if controller improvements will put all the control stuff in one place. It's pretty mad right now. Every time they update my throttle gets killed.

[@RedDwarf1]

Is that how an explorer is supposed to be? You don't say!

[@Buk86]

i cant wait for 3.25 😂

[@theonefrancis696]

When you realize that they will likely roll back to 3.18 saying "it's basically 4.0 but better"

[@hanswurst9866]

I am astonished repeatedly at how good of a SC KZbinr you are. Nothing else is this informative!

[@EE-STUDIOS]

Yay, radar altimeters! 🎉

[@FieldHoodGaming]

Wasn't the Perseus supposed to be released as well? Since it was shown in Citizencon last year

[@MILSPECMOM]

It's called laying a foundation for future updates/upgrades it's not rocket science so not sure why citizens are so concerned?

[@SpaceTomato]

I'm not concerned, more excited! Just trying to inform folks who aren't following closely.

[@JamestheKilljoy]

People are stupid. Thankfully we have Space Tomato who explains stuff in a logical and concise way. Easy to digest info

[@Giliver]

People are justifiably tired of waiting. It makes sense why it's taking so long as well. Both can be true lol

[@JamestheKilljoy]

@@Giliver absolutely. People tend to think only in extremes these days

[@JollygreenFullSteam]

They've been laying a foundation for 12 years.......................

[@jeremyanderson6395]

I dont think CIG has ever truly recovered from 3.18. Something about the game has just felt off since then. Took forever to get out and now every update feels rough.

[@albertoj.tomates2553]

@@jeremyanderson6395 why everybody talks about 3.18 like it was the Vietnam war

[@LucidStrike]

You've just forgotten the pre-3.18 alpha was worse. That's all. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@thegeneral1955]

​@albertoj.tomates2553 You had to be there son, you had to be there.

[@madmechanic7976]

I really miss 3.17 it was fun.​@@thegeneral1955

[@Kakeyoro]

Hey Tomato, can confirm that Radar Altitude DOES work on all the ships now. It's great. BUT there's a slight slight caveat. It doesn't necessarily go to ZERO when you hit ground. It feels as if it measure the distance of your cockpit/bridge to the ground. So maybe you'll hit ground at 3m.. .Or maybe 4m on uneven terrain. So you'll need to know your ship to be prepared for that... (RECLAIMER). But nonetheless... it does definitely work reliably. I think I noticed it coming on at around 1000m above ground. It's not on all the time at all altitudes.

[@arenomusic]

Current airplane altimeter: 7,500-15,000m max altitude Futuristic quantum tunneling warp travel equipped space ship altimeter: 1000m max altitude

[@Kakeyoro]

@@arenomusic I think you misinterpreted what I said... radar altitude in SC stops/starts displaying at around 1000m. Above that, you have regular ASL altitude. Ironically to your statement, quite a few modern aircraft can only measure through barometric sensors. Radar altitude is reserved for more advanced aircraft. EDIT: just checked with the new build. It's at 500m when it activates.

[@hawkzulu5671]

@@arenomusic ^ radar altimeters are like terrain avoidance devices. A cessna cruising at 8,000 feet or a 737 cruising at 35,000 feet are using their barometric altimeters - why would you need a radar alt - nowhere near the ground

[@MrGadfly772]

This is going to sound petty, but I really wish they'd add an aging slider to the character customization.

[@swetzel227]

"The corsair pilot is losing some gun access" aaaaand just like that there goes my daily flyer... awesome!!!

[@BizzMRK]

relax it is still a stupidly high dps "explorer ship" even solo, it just won't be able to solo out-dps a fully crewed Polaris (pre-upgun) anymore. Having a ship with 10k pilot dps was a massive mistake to begin with and they should have never released it that way in the first place.

[@MartinB034]

@@BizzMRK The problem I have with that change is that it makes no sense for the co pilot either. You get control of a turret so limited it makes it almost useless. You do not control where you are facing and you have what, a 75 deg arc of fire at best ? And who's controlling the top turret? What they could have done is remove the two wing guns, lower the size of the 4 front ones and give the co pilot's turret bigger guns. And we all know it was never really an exploration ship 😉

[@Power5]

@@BizzMRK the original concept sales showed how tongue in cheek that explorer part was. DRAKE makes pirate ships, but they cannot say that in sales material in universe lore. Also the ship had actual FIXED weapons to get those s5, before MM and the new gimbal system with no size penalty.

[@good_speed_0h]

CIG is trying to give us something to calm down from the pressure & heat that they will! Be receiving this month at Citizen Con

[@timeflex]

I still remember 3.12. Gosh, it was good. I remember playing for 6 months without a wipe or serious problems. Yes, crashes, yes, lags, but nothing too dramatic.

[@SpaceTomato]

That was the first persistence patch, right?

[@timeflex]

@@SpaceTomato Yep, indeed it was.

[@jeremyanderson6395]

3.12 was beautiful.

[@hawkzulu5671]

were all the planets, moons and space stations in back then?

[@timeflex]

@@hawkzulu5671 Not sure about all, but there were plenty. Including Levski ;-)

[@benthomson1132]

8:30 OH THANK GOD

[@AthosRac]

TALK about the corsair nerf!

[@massimilianodistefano9792]

CAVE MAPS! THANKS GOD! 90% OF THE TIME I WAS THE FKIN MISSING PERSON IN THERE 😭

[@brianc8840]

Does the drake cutlass black get the toilet back yet.

[@Grandpa_pc]

Imagine 10 new concepts a year and only seeing 1 come out. Insane.

[@eyestonedaniel]

I'm not gonna spend a single dime on this game if that Corsair change goes through

[@Lisa-Azra_Broad]

Thanks for your hard work

[@kookiespace]

The fact that space is green now is kinda stupid xD

[@YuubiZ]

8:44 that's how an altimeter works in real life. It shows you the distance in feet from sea level.

[@ErikLiberty]

A radar altimeter tells a pilot how high the aircraft is above the ground. Unlike a barometric altimeter, which measures altitude relative to sea level, the radar altimeter sends radio waves to the ground and measures the time it takes for the signal to bounce back, providing a precise measurement of the aircraft's height above the terrain.

[@YuubiZ]

@@ErikLiberty I didn't know those were a thing! Thanks for the info. I was just thinking after posting that maybe he meant a sonar type radar like ones put on boats to find the sea floor. Makes sense that higher tech planes would have it too.

[@arenomusic]

Our ships have gravity generators but still use that weird vial filled with blue fluid your grandparents used to tell when a storm was coming to give you an altitude readout

[@YuubiZ]

@@arenomusicyou're totally right. I'm just saying your altitude indicated on that readout is from sea level. They'll need an R Alt or some "distance to surface" readout. It'd be weird to read all the time though since it'd constantly change as you move even at level flight. Could confuse players.

[@cos4779]

Stop it, I can't be hurt again haha

[@Vertexnine]

Space, would you be mad if I made a channel called Space Cucumber, where I'm slightly less optimistic? I love the game as much as you but I think CIG needs a but more criticism ...

[@vulcan4d]

There was not suppose to be anything after 3.23 except 4. Sounds like they are portioning out 4 into 3.24.x. incrementing that first digit is a lot of work.

[@theonefrancis696]

What about 3.24.2.5.2.4?

[@MoonHowlerGaming]

I expect a 3.18 situation for 4.0. Stuck in PTU in a miserable state for the entire Christmas holiday.

[@spacesteg159]

Well you probably wont be seeing Corsairs anymore

[@rodahtnov]

They all will be exploring... exploring nothing as its a ship that has no exploration capacities, as the thing it is designed to explore is the cargo bays of other ships and settlements. The nerf is making it useless on its size and function (fake gunship made of paper but with heavy weaponry by drake for pirates)

[@2ferone86]

I'd hazzard a guess that most game hours are Not spent in multi crew gameplay, yet they keep pushing players to multi crew. Show me the data. 🧐 Also they are nerfing the Corsair to sell more Zeus and calling it balance or some nonsense 🙄

[@motorheadabega]

PTU needs to be pulic or not at all. I will test if they let me. Otherwise nothing to see here. Almost made it into tech-preview last night, except was still dowloading when CIG pulled the plug. Time wasted when I could have been playing live.

[@AtomSplittingScience]

I’m willing to bet new ships in the same role as all the ships they nerfed recently will come, be better than the ships they nerfed Instead of adding features I’m sure they will waste our backer dollars by reworking ships for the 3rd or 4th time instead of having the gameplay ready for said ships so they can rework them again when they realize the ship can’t do what its supposed to for the role.

[@MrAbram94]

SC will be a dramatically different expirience in the next 12 months - Chris Roberts opening speech Citcon 2023😂

[@vulcan4d]

Or they will talk about Pyro and how that is coming.....again

[@Anonnymouse53]

I think at this point the project is just so complicated and difficult to test at scale. I'm glad they are starting to find their feet using tech-preview branches, etc & are getting comfortable with pushing stuff out the door. It's interesting that they can at this point basically rely on content creators to very rapidly communicate their cadence to players. Player backers are often very insistent on them running a more stable live service, personally I'd be much happier with them moving fast & breaking stuff. So long as they are actually moving Fast & communicating.

[@alexanderskillen5537]

I won't play until I see some massive changes in the MM flight model. I'm not smart or a real PvP guy but the flight just feels slow and intentionally limited

[@SpaceTomato]

That's a good call! No point playing something you don't enjoy.

[@FDF-i6z]

Nice that you don't want “other” streamers to use your videos as information to create content to react to, but you use that same streamer's information as the basis for a video! Gotcha! Hypocrisy really does grow!

[@TheJamster1234567]

When will they add the ability to earn rec back into star marine? Playing that has real no point besides simple fps among friends

[@TheGaryinWales]

I wouldn't say it's been a lackluster year at all. Given we don't have server meshing yet, they managed to put out some great updates in the already full server. Credit where credits due.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

Yeah agreed.

[@AtomSplittingScience]

Population has dropped 90% since the beginning of the year so not sure what full server your on

[@TheGaryinWales]

@AtomSplittingScience firstly, each server only holds 100 players, so easy for a server to hit max population. But I was referring to the servers not being able to handle more content. It's better this year since PES, but server mem is maxed out. There is a lot of stuff they can't add to the game because there simply isn't the server memory for it. That's what happens when you try to run a game like SC in a single server per instance.

[@Brigadier_Beau]

@@AtomSplittingScience Player levels always drop over the summer and leading up to Citizen Con. Then they pick back up. It's the ones that stay through thick and thin that will be here to the end.

[@nicholascoker7212]

The problem with ptu testing is that as far as I remember it requires a download of a sepparate SC game...and given that sc is over 100gb. .yeah I'd rather stick to the live version rather than have to give up even more of my limited storage

[@dimitrirouge5568]

a problem of 15$ .... 100gb today of ssd. where yo need a computer of 500$ to enjoy it's just a non sense to write it.

[@SolarWindsRider]

If (when) 4.0 will break, it won't be because of the beards, or new displays, or acidic caves. So testing this stuff now won't contribute much to 4.0 stability. It will break because of meshing, and Pyro-specific bugs. What they're doing now is likely just trying to deliver at least something. So that in Dec they can say "ok, 4.0 is not ready, but look, we gave you some 4.0 content nevertheless".

[@Maddock_]

still a funny name for 3.25/26

[@misapheonix]

Really wish they'd just stick a loading screen in the jumpgate, just so we can finally have some bloody content, while they stare at code and try to figure out Server Meshing. If this was polled it would probably do very good.

[@nikelon8227]

With what they're doing to the game and how they're treating players there won't be much playerbase to force into testing...

[@robertlee1497]

3.24.2 Should have come out to the P.U. on Friday the 27th of September, 2024. 4.0 Will come out to the P.U. on the 15th of January, 2025.

[@LuluGamingDK]

yep.. i'll say it again.. 3.24.2 is a Code ground work patch to get ready for more 4.0 stuff and the push to 4.0 PTU! I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL!!!

[@SpaceTomato]

It seems they are prepping!

[@Starlord-7T7]

Still not liking that corsair nerf thing. I love that ship. It’s really what got me loving star citizen. Oh well

[@arenomusic]

They added control of those guns to an extra seat on the Polaris bridge

[@HELiXDzn123]

I really hope they give the option for msl altitude in preparation for control surfaces. I want to be able to trim and fly straight and level without having to worry about drifting in altitude

[@fenrar9777]

If this 2 gun Corsair update is a thing I am going to be literally heart broken. Its what got me into the game and it just seems........pointless. The co pilot is ALREADY needed to use the remote turret!? So now what we can only use SOME of or front guns or the remote turret? Whats the point.

[@PvtDamion]

Actually make sense; having a patch without major changes to (core) systems (although the MFD changes are a biggy), but does give CIG feedback to stabilise the codebase and improve upon, before adding game changing additions

[@Tentacl]

9:25 so explorers take lobotomized friends to push a button to fire front facing guns they can't control? C'mon man, a little less boot licking would go a long way. You just don't criticize even this ridiculous nerf?

[@rubentaiartinger2640]

Just hopped in .2 to test athmo friction: bucc +100 km above arc max boost nav speed 900 m/s i very much dont like this :-(

[@melandor0]

What are you talking about there's no Atmos friction at that height?

[@GeorgeFloyd2]

corsair nerf is disgusting

[@teboneshenanigans2910]

Point point point 4 point point 2 point 9 point 10point forty six thousand one hundred and ninty nine. That's as far as I could follow before I got tired of the point.

[@MrScooter1287]

You know, I don’t comment much, but it’s pretty telling who you are as a person where you deleted one podcast with a KZbinr who you disagreed with, and essentially called him a racist with no evidence, virtue signaling your way to the high ground and perpetuating cancel culture. Then, not once, but in two videos you don’t even name the streamer, SaltEMike’s, in where the CIG dev posted that information. If I had to guess, it’s also because you disagree with his opinion too.

[@NordlightStudio]

What happened? Can you explaine please? I really like both.

[@Mullins23]

Stop pushing "biggest patch yet" with every few patches. How many times have we seen CIG say x, y, and Z would be in a patch only to deliver X.

[@AlleniumProductions]

It's too late. Players have left in droves. Don't believe me? Look at your friends list and your orgs. No one is there anymore. It's going take a lot more course corrections at CIG before it gets back to get the player counts back to what they were a year ago.

[@DJCroBar]

So really it's 3.99

[@SpaceTomato]

3.99.9

[@NTC_Transport]

I hate to tell you, but real world altimeters are calibrated to sea level (ASL). That's why Air Chart Maps have minimum altitudes marked and ALL airports show their altitude. If CIG changes this to show altitude above ground level (AGL) you are going to find that flying low will make your altimeter even MORE useless, as the altitude changes so fast, flying over a hill, mountain or canyon at speed, that you can't react in time and crash. Good luck! (you'll need it) Personally, I only use the altimeter to tell me if I'm high enough to use the Quantum drive or not. Otherwise, I fly by the seat of my pants, but then, I've been flying flight simulators since 1983.

[@Oh_Foe_Sho]

Have you flown the Zeus MK2?

[@Styx-Lo]

I also love listening to content creators use the in-game pieces. It's kind of a flex to have game music so dramatic and varied that people WANT to make mini movies with it

[@caseycooper930]

With the update to 4.0 base work what are the chances of some sort of wipe for 3.24.2? Obviously I'm expecting a wipe for 4.0 that's not what I'm asking

[@tje.o.a5477]

I'm curious on how they will address larger cargo ships like the Hull E. Best way I can think of is them allowing us to transport entire grids, so that we can completely fill a hull E in as little as 10-30 minutes, which is FAR better than 1-3 hours.

[@Frostmire]

Laying the ground work for a truly monumental game to propel the next possible golden era of gaming. just like WoW coming out the wood work back when tech was just getting started.

[@jrddoubleu514]

Don't bite the bait.

[@Belvayne]

Feels like 3.24.2 is basically a 4.0 pre-patch

[@Bailey-k2j]

The woke character customizer is so cringe. 🤮🤮

[@AgentXRifle]

Look at their staff

[@arenomusic]

Non-white hairstyles - so WOKE!

[@Bailey-k2j]

@@arenomusic dreads are so nasty. 🤮🤮

[@zacharypump5910]

They need to give up on server meshing

[@ryanc2893]

The Corsair is NOT supposed to be an explorer lol. It was very tongue-in-cheek called an "eXplOrER" during concept and release. More like 'Explore that Ships Cargo haul' was the true intention from Drake, but they couldn't say that. If you don't believe me, go back and watch the concept vids.

[@Venhili]

**All ships are subject to change** Besides that, it's not like the Corsair isn't capable of being a good piracy ship, it just means you need at least 2 other people to make full use of it

[@Power5]

@@Venhili 3 and that rear turret is controlled by the same person who is now controlling the chin weapons. Opposite ends of the ship opposite vertical fields of fire. One he has control over for where to shoot and when to fire, the other he has a few degrees of control over where to shoot and when to fire. Would have rather seen it just get s4 weapons to take some punch out of it. They removed the gimbal size debuff and are confused as to why the corsair is being used by so many people. Now has less pilot firepower than the $50 cheaper taurus which is also more maneuverable and has more hull HP. Wonder how long till CIG is confused as to why the connies are getting so many kills. When will those co-pilots be charged with pushing the fire button from their seats next to the pilot? Give right lower gun to the right co-pilot and left lower gun to the left co-pilot. Pilot gets to keep control of both upper guns.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

"Lackluster year"? Are we even playing the same game? The freight elevators fundamentally changed every aspect of the cargo handling in the game, it's like a completely different experience. That alone was bigger than anything introduced in 2022. Persistent hangars is a feature that people have been waiting on for half a decade! And it, too, also fundamentally changes the logistics of loading your ship, equipping your toon, and heading out. Everything is so much faster having an Nursa in the corner to repair light wounds or top off food/drink in between cargo runs, and having ships or vehicles on standby ready to be deployed makes things waaaaay faster than usual. Plus, having a crate with pre-kitted equipment makes re-gearing up so much faster than before. I don't even see how people can call that lackluster???? Plus, the distribution centres have added whole new ways to play the cargo loops and the combat loops, and the inclusion of NPCs that now venturing outside and around the bunkers adds an entirely new element of tactical challenges to the game. Plus, the new hunting missions are extremely fun and add some much needed exploration to the game along the planetary surfaces that wasn't there before. That's not even mentioning things like the new ATLS and the overhauled Star Map that makes searching and QT'ing to places so much more intuitive and convenient. It's such a HUGE boon being able to just search for the destination instead of fumbling around in the old Star Map. It seems like content creators get stuck in their own little echo-chamber of negativity sometimes without looking at the big picture. Compare the features that were included this year compared to the last two years and this year brought in a TON of stuff. I'm not even sure at this point what would make content creators NOT think a year is lackluster. Even if 4.0 slips into 2025, this year was pretty significant in terms of content, missions, stability, and fundamentally changing how the logistics are handled from a player-to-player and player-to-group standpoint (i.e., group hauling, group combat, etc). Oh yeah, and I completely forgot about Master Modes...

[@Halengar-o7]

as a long time backer i see that we are getting both expanded gameplay and the jesus tech server meshing.

[@GothKazu]

500th like 💪🏿

[@RicoZaid_]

o7

[@SpaceTomato]

o7

[@Grandpa_pc]

Don't expect anything different from this company. CIG is scamming gamers.

[@XeroJin84]

3.24.2 will be the best patch ever. Game will be so balanced, fun, and not tedious at all. They should have just released server meshing with it since it works. They've learned their lesson and they won't make the same mistakes as 3.18. Can't wait to buy all their newest ships.

[@AgentXRifle]

😂

[@XeroJin84]

​@@AgentXRifle I thought I would get more likes from the white-knights since I'm saying everything they say.

[@AgentXRifle]

@@XeroJin84 even they seem to have quiet down a lot recently. My friend plays this game religiously and even he stopped due to it simply not being fun anymore… we just gotta give it 2 more years…

[@justarandomdude1925]

o7

[@SpaceTomato]

o7

[@Yorky117]

o7

[@SpaceTomato]

o7