Star Citizen | 9800X3D Review

[@theamericanaromantic]

This man’s Lorville muscle memory must be off the charts.

[@crispy9175]

Do you think we could get CIG to make him the official Mayor of Lorville?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

I think I could do it blind at this point!

[@theamericanaromantic]

@@tenpoundfortytwo Doing the lords work, thank you

[@crispy9175]

@@tenpoundfortytwo hey, where did Tenpoundfortytwo the name come from?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

@@crispy9175 it's just a completely made up random name- no lore I'm afraid!

[@Planum.]

The video I've been waiting for since 9800X3D is released. Thanks !!

[@chriskaradimos9394]

same

[@hisfatness522]

5800X -> 9800X3D upgrade for me! CPU already in my hand and just waiting for motherboard and ram that comes tomorrow. I appreciate the dopamine-inducing benchmarks!

[@xxjacktheladxx]

Oh wow. Me too. Already installed. Im on a 3080 and the frames are not massively higher. BUT the minimum frames are so much better. The game is now butter compared to the 5800x rig. Its been a long wait....

[@vinz134]

The same for me, on a 4090, and i especially noticed the 0.1% way better than my old 5800x3d

[@DeviatorBytes]

i hold on with my 5800X3D until AM6 with Zen 7 in 2028.

[@Xaveth]

@@xxjacktheladxx I have a 5950x w/ 3080 and considering the upgrade. What did you do with your previous MB, CPU, and RAM? eBay them?

[@tazb5307]

I just did this upgrade 5800x 3200mhz 32g ram and 3080 ti TO a 9800x3d 6800mhz ram (i didnt know better at the time) and my 3080ti and I LOVE IT.

[@athanoskerensky6778]

What ppl aren’t mentioning about the 7800x3d to 9800x3d upgrade is the current price of the 7800x3d on the used market. I sold my 7800 for $450, paid $75 to upgrade to the 9800 that runs wayyyy cooler and is unlocked for OC.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

A good point!

[@vulcan4d]

You sold for a good price. I see it sold for $500cad and the 9800x3d is $670 CAD + tax. That is a huge difference for a small performance boost.

[@Mre942]

In my country a new 7800x3d cost 450usd 😅 the 9800x3d goes for about 570usd in store

[@FrietjeOorlog]

9800X3D is sold out everywhere or costs 650 euro at shops. Who needs scalpers when shops hike prices themselves...

[@Mre942]

@@FrietjeOorlog I saw that backorders in sweden will arrive 12th december right now.

[@Sitarow]

Thanks! Keep at it. 😊

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Thank you!!

[@CaspersGhost618]

Think im just gonna hold tough and let CIG cook for another while before upgrading to the am5 platform. Running on 5800x3d 7900xtx 64GB 3600ddr4 Hope you feel better 10£ thanks for all you do!

[@klm2fm4]

That’s kinda how I feel. 5800x3d with a 6800xt with the same ram here. Built it as a kind of tribute to amd/am4 and the best of what I could afford/find. The 9800x3d does get me excited about a new pc in the coming years however

[@CaspersGhost618]

@@klm2fm4 man I just downloaded the update for live and I was getting a solid 70+ FPS at micro tech while on the train, the optimisations are tremendous!

[@CaspersGhost618]

@@klm2fm4 upgrading from a 5800x3d to a 9800x3d would give improved 1% lows, I find the game to be running great with the new update 😃

[@lukehawkins5011]

what sort of fps are you getting at 4k with that setup? unsure if i should go to the 9800x3d, currently on a 3900x and just wondering if i should get the 5800x3d for a step up.

[@CaspersGhost618]

@@lukehawkins5011 I don't have a 4k monitor only playing in 1440p everything maxed, that said I've seen GPU usage spike to 99% on occasion but mostly it sits around the 70% mark, when I did upscale to 4k the GPU is maxed out and I was seeing relatively similar frames,. The new update that came out saw me 70+ FPS while standing on the train at new Babbage going between the stations, its glorious

[@ImreBertalan86]

Thank you for including the Ryzen 5 3600 in the charts as that is the comparison I would be coming from

[@iamthesentinel584]

Heck yeah, this is what we've been waiting for. Great video as always, and we're glad you're feeling better!

[@arenomusic]

Very glad I got the 7800 when I did, all thanks to your recommendations. Great soundtrack, as always.

[@CitizenScott]

Great, great, great, great video. Maybe not the most hype/best news, but your honesty and pragmatism is a always a appreciated. Keep it up!

[@KildalSC]

Super grateful to have such a knowledgeable and resourceful individual as you in the Star Citizen community. I hoped my pc would last 7 years when I built it, which was 6 years ago, even with only 16GB RAM it still runs SC fine. If SQ42 was launching in 2025 I would probably build one for that, but now I'm hoping this sales period next year will be a nice time. I don't know, do you others who enjoy having a high end PC like to build a really powerful one to last for many years and probably have no resale value, or do you constantly update to new components and sell the old ones? I see the usual retailer here in Norway (Komplett) has started experimenting with a monthly cost instead of upfront, where you can return the product for a newer one every 24 months, you at least don't have to bother with selling privately that way.

[@GamerPlayzGames.]

Thanks for the video, im planning on get a build with this CPU this helps alot. Not gonna run 20 fps anymore!

[@captain-hooked]

I've just installed my 9800x3d system upgraded from an 5800x non x3d and the performance difference is night and day with the same video card (3080). So I'm very impressed, but likely would have been equally impressed with the 7800x3d. They are both basically the same price so I have no regrets and am very happy.

[@cpt.tombstone]

Great video! I did a big, audible "ouch" when looking at the main thread performance from Pyro, that is indeed rough!

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep it's pretty crazy! Guessing that is some sort of bug!

[@TheMinistry-SC]

Amazing work as always, thanks for this one!

[@Ucra12]

What an absolutely fantastic, no bullshit showcase of the different CPU's, I have a 7800X3D I bought a couple of months ago (Upgraded from a 3600x > 5800X3D > 7800X3D) and this convinced me to wait for the next AMD offering some years down the line.

[@thewordywizard4389]

Thanks, been looking forward to this

[@JSmith73]

Great review; I'll just wait for specials to upgrade my 7800x3d - not in a rush right now though. 4090 also, will skip the 5090 gen most likely.

[@fooook92]

Been on AM4 since 2017, same mobo, 3 different cpus (1700, 3800x, 5800x3d), will always love this platform!. I still find somehow "difficult" to upgrade, playing at 3440x1440 with an 4080 will give me a nice jump, but maybe not so much. So I'm actually thorn on what to do. I'll probably wait the release of 9900x3d and 9950x3d, cause I also use my rig for editing and compositing, so more cores will be useful for sure. Thanks for the tests!

[@Cletus_Tokes]

Am building my own PC at microcenter soon. Just got my 9800x3D and am getting a 4080 super, DDR5, allll the gooods! So excited

[@bl4ckcore]

Thank you for taking the time to do a review! You are really helping the SC community in a big way with your channel. Have you thought about the performance with overclocking? The 9800x3d seems to be suitabale to do so. Would be interesting to see if the frames keep on increasing or if there is a diminishing return. Edit - i am talking about manual overclocking and not pbo

[@echo5827]

Just got rid of my 7800 for it. Definitely worth the extra $100, especially when $1500 GPUs are coming out in a couple months. Ill take 10%

[@moonraker2634]

Thanks for the review, appreciate all the efforts to bring us your findings. On optimisation, generally you get that towards the end of development cycle (avoiding duplication of effort). What should make the biggest improvement to performance will be fully functional Vulkan drivers including proper multi-threading support etc. If they focus on anything right now it's that. Especially (and hats off to you for testing current builds :) given current state of the game. Given the results and general good reviews for the 9800X3D for gaming generally, it suggests further improvements available for the CPU when Vulkan/ optimisation arrives.

[@Omaricon]

Missed you at citcon unfortunately. But amazing video as always! I'm rocking a 3950X, so I think it's time to get on the 3D bandwagon and get a 9800X3D.

[@adrien_iller]

Great video. I just want to call attention to your comments about CIG and performance optimization and say that I totally agree. I'm glad CIG seems to recognize this.

[@mur4s4m3]

Once we get more news from RTX 5000 series, I'll consider an upgrade. Thanks for the video about it :)

[@thPrisoner]

Thx for the in-depth review.

[@illgottengains1314]

Phew! Thanks for that mate, no upgrades necessary.

[@Swatmat]

been waiting for this!

[@snaggletoof1927]

Would love to see the R5 7600X3D be included in these comparisons. Still, I appreciate the time and effort you put into all that you share with the community!

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Unfortunately I don't think it will end up going on sale over here!

[@FredrikNaevisdal]

Thank you so much, I was considering buying it, as I have saved up a long time to get my "Star Citizen" computer, but it was really sad to see the FPS on Pyro. I undertstand their explanation, but it makes me consider continuing to wait for and hope for a breakthrough in hardware.

[@kicker758]

I jumped from a 10900k to the 9800x3d and brought in a gen5 storage. No complaints from me on the performance increase. Glad to be back on a amd platform again!

[@nathanforrester5140]

Thank you for the video! That is about what I was expecting watching the other reviews. I have a 5800x3d / 3080 in my system now. I can play the game fine. My little girl really wants to play with me so that has me thinking about building a new system so I can upgrade the family computer with my current parts. I will just go into wait and see what the prices do mode. Perhaps this spring I can do something.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

No problem! Yeah I thinking waiting to see how prices change into 2025 is probably a very good idea!

[@arthurdent6690]

Same here. daughter gets the 3600/2080S rig from the son. son gets 5800x3d/6800xt rig from me, i build a new 9800x3d/8800xt. a citizen family is born 😂

[@nathanforrester5140]

@@arthurdent6690 upgrade that 3600 to a 5700x3d and you all are set

[@RichardYoung-o1b]

Thank you for making this video. Currently running a 5800x with 6700xt gpu. Thinking I should probably upgrade the gpu first since that will be transferable when I eventually make the platform change. Especially since they said at citizen con they would be making changes to shift some of the load off the cpu to the gpu.

[@philipm5043]

Thanks. Just upgraded to the 9800x3d from the 5800x.

[@jimashby43]

Wow, I must have missed the 10k subscribers 😊 CIG has to improve something, only a percentage of the people that bought the package could play. Thanks Dave.

[@janosaldroun6560]

Just watched to see where my 5900X stacks up. I'll probably be building a new computer next year so just trying to ease back into getting my head around where things are at. Lots of things will change by then but it's always good to have perspective.

[@egore51]

In a very weird spot with my setup at the moment. Running a 3080 and 5800X3D. For all other games the CPU is still easily enough, overkill even, making a 50 series card (when available) the logical next upgrade. But.... I do play a lot of star citizen where the 3080 still isn't really being pushed at 4k with dlss.... Making the 9800X3D very tempting.

[@asog88]

Id never say its worth an upgrade from a 7800x3d, but from anything else? Yes

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yeah I think that's probably a good summary of it all!

[@mimo.46.]

Yeah from my humble 5800x, i think its massive upgrade but the price of the cpu is so all over the place. I'll wait and let the price settle at normal standards.

[@asog88]

@ that’s a good idea. I have a 7700x and I got it because it got me into amd5 componentes, but with a prebuilt was $600 cheaper than if I’d gotten a 7800x3d. I’m just not sure if I’m going to wait for the 9800x3d’s piece to go down or for the 10800x3d to come out lol

[@asog88]

@ It’s a 20-30% gain in every game so long as your graphics card can spit out the fps so I’d say it is if you’re ok getting what’s basically a whole new PC since you’ll need a whole new motherboard. I would not upgrade JUST for the cpu from an intel, but if you’re already upgrading, this is definitely the way to go

[@ictr3ma255]

@@asog88 you must be joking if you expect 20-30%fps gain in any game just by upgrading 14900k to 9800x3d, considering the fact that single core performance is way lower in amd

[@SpaceShortsYT]

I have a 5800x3d / 4080 Super system and a 7800x3d / 4090 system. *I dumped the 7900xtx because of the vapor chamber issues I suffered. The 9800x3d / 5090 - is a generation I plan to skip this time. 9800x3d is clearly faster, but it's not enough to chase the upgrade at this point. Moore's law's insight into the 5090 MSRP has also made me consider skipping that GPU generation with my recent refreshes. I'm good for now! Love the work you do, my systems are 100% SC dedicated. I need to stop being lazy and tune my RAM, but I do not think it makes a huge difference with these x3D chips :)

[@BestShifty]

I´m currently on a 5800X3D and as that system is basically topped out I´ll most likely end up getting a 9800X3D sometime next year when I´m building my new rig.

[@velocitymg]

Moving from AMD 5950 and 6800xt with a 34” va 1440 screen to a 9800x3d and 7900xtx and a 4K 34” oled monitor. Cost me two years of work bonus and some overtime but man I am excited to put it together once the motherboard finally arrives.

[@ondowmosa6283]

Native frame generation would be so welcome to have along this new chips that this game would stop being perceived as a performance behemoth and maybe it can be more accessible to newcomers.

[@Dano_TSN]

any thoughts on where the MicroCenter Exclusive 7600x3D slots in to these results?

[@rhadiem]

5800x3D/4090 owner here... was thinking of upgrading but until SC is in a place I play daily, I won't spend more money on it. Definitely looks like there are gains to be had, for a whole new MB/RAM/CPU though. But CIG needs to optimize the cities better. Just imagine when basebuilding will hit the planets. Thanks for the numbers.

[@TheDude50447]

The biggest difference to previous generations is that the 9800x3d can actually be overclocked without cooking itself due to the 3d cache now being below the ccd. Since the game likes clock speed this can be a significant factor for a purchasing decision. If you leave it stock you wont gain nearly as much. The correct ram and settings for the infinity fabric are as important as ever.

[@outofgravity4785]

Great Video!

[@astromonkey2]

I'm upgrading because its been a bit since I last heard positve things said about a CPU release. That, and I built my last PC in anticipation of the Fallout 4 release so I think its time.

[@1jbrady]

Great video , would you have some recommended settings for best quality with performance ? As this seems to change depending on the patch

[@vaughnuhden]

Thank you for your videos

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

No problem!

[@zorikh779]

Not sure if you live near a micro center, i'd guess the 7600x3d would just be abit lower than the 7800x3d. Was just checking if you'd agree or not :D tyty for all your videos LOVE THEM!!!!

[@FullFledged2010]

I'm curious about the ryzen 9's Like the 9950x as SC loves multicores now with vulcan ^^

[@goname31]

Did you test the 4.0 PTU on EU servers? It was night and day performance wise with USA. Mayde due to the low number of players on the shard thou

[@philipm5043]

My only question is how did the 5800x3d's performance get worse as time went on: 0:35 ----> 0:43

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Game got harder to run! Lorville's rework didn't help performance!

[@echo5827]

That x3d turbo mode (assuming same as mine because it looks like gigabyte auorus bios) disables SMT so just 8 cores but it does seem to boost single core performance by a bit. Obviously games like SC that have a good amount multithreaded it sucks

[@luapseirffej]

I'm on a 5800x / 3090 for the last four years and I'm happy with that for about another six years. It's fun to theorycraft about what tech will be around in 2029.

[@KbcBlade]

Upgraded to 9800x3d from a 5900x. Safe to say the performance increase has been incredible.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

That's a great upgrade- enjoy!

[@Tainted-Soul]

Thank you very much looking at the reviews the 9800x3d looks great. but in SC we are not using all cores and threads so even if the 9950x3d comes with 2 CCD's with V cache it wont make much difference until all the CPU cores are used. I'll will be keeping my 7800x3d for 2 more years I think when zen 6 comes out with a new IO chip this may help improvements, or not LOL they did say that we would be able to use all our cores so that would help dont you think ?

[@spacecaptain8561]

I honestly wonder how intel core ultra performs with Star Citizen. Even just to see if it's worse than previous chips

[@AngelicStreak]

Thanks. I hope you're gonna test its 16-core cousin when they release in a few months! I hope the 3D cache will be available to all 16 cores.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yeah if they put v cache on the whole thing I'll check it out!

[@AngelicStreak]

@@tenpoundfortytwo Well, if they don't, it's going to be worse than 9800X3D in SC. Unless they optimize for 16 threads, rather than for cache.

[@boatoflol]

Gonna upgrade from a i7 6850k to the 9800X3D, GPU is the 3090 atm, 5090 in Jan probably. Will I get some serious fps gains?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

The cpu should make a big difference! I'd see how the 3090 is doing before picking up the 5090- the 3090 is still pretty powerful!

[@DualsPortvet]

I have two pc's both 5800x3d builds. I'll be building a 9800x3d to replace one of them. Here's hoping Black Friday or Cyber Monday will help with some good deals.

[@pxkqd]

Just bought one (along with whole new PC). Going 2700X/RX580/16gb => 9800x3D/RTX4080S/64gb. Hoping that will bring the game from barely playable at 1080p to best performance available at ultra-wide 1440p.

[@anon4662]

If you do test the Intel Core Ultra 9 CPU please do so with the 9000MHz or atleast 8600MHz CUDIMM ram, since it is the only platform that supports that high ram speeds atm and could make quite the difference in SC

[@stormwolf3255]

Do you have a recommended AM5 motherboard to get the best from the 9800X3D (without going totally mad budgetwise)? Also seen a lot of reports recently of SC gobbling more than 32GB RAM when available... do you think 64GB will be the new normal for SC in the next couple of years?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Unless you go crazy budget they should all perform pretty much the same. Hardware unboxed has some am5 comparison videos that might be worth checking out! I think if you're wanting to future proof it's worth considering 64GB of ram, but I didn't really find a great reason when I tested recently: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYTddHakZ66qgdUsi=PUAER0iNW_oZM5rr

[@brockoala2994]

Which mobo would you recommend for 7800x3d and Star Citizen?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

I don't tend to get too deep into motherboards, but the general advice is that you don't particularly need the high end board. I'd recommend coming over to the discord to ask for some help (plenty of people there who know more than me!). But also hardware unboxed does some good MB comparison videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKWrgIKvjL6cn8U and kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3-VmJ6YgrZlnNU

[@brockoala2994]

@@tenpoundfortytwo Thanks a lot! Love your vids! May I ask another question, how does the 14900k compared to the 7800x3d for Star Citizen? At my place they have the similar price, but the 14900k is cheaper for me because it doesn't need a new mobo.

[@beatthebest6812]

im still on AM4, 5800x3d. If im not able to push 120 fps anywhere and need frame generation to get a stable 120 frame rate on 4k with a 4090. Im not going to pay for an upgrade. I will wait until either CIG optimizes, or AMD/Intel releases something new that does it. aslong as stuff keeps working im staying on 5800x3d.

[@Shibaki89]

Looks like 9700x is not a bad choise, right? And still cold / good price! And at 3440x1440 i saw now diff?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep it's looking like a good option!

[@Amomferatus]

I'm currently running a 5800x paired with an 7900XTX, was waiting to see how much the 9800X3D would cost for a future proofing build. It would be a huge boost for me, generally in Stanton I get around 50-60 fps, but haven't been to Area 18 or Lorvile since 3.24.0 dropped, mainly cause the game was in a really bad state, even the good places were bad. The game has gotten better, just me travels haven't taken me to those cities, will have to check them out.

[@NOOB666X]

i am on a 5800 X3D and 7900 XTX with WQHD and i can Wait for AM6/9900 XTX (hopefully) and 4K

[@winterjfw]

Love your reviews, but 13th gen i9 for the win!! No e-cores issues, just works. Can you test it?

[@Twidgyt]

I'm planning out my first gaming desktop after four years of gaming laptops; the plan is AM5 with a 4070 ti super and a 9800x3d but when i put it in pc parts picker the price was $480, now it's $630 and I'm starting to wonder if i should go with a cheaper non x3d just to start gaming and grab the 9800x3d when the prices get more reasonable. Any suggestions?

[@Sparkk0]

I got a 5800x3d and let me tell you why I wont upgrade. Its still a wicked cpu for a good price. And I appreciate the hardware videos and support enthusaists that want to do that sort of thing but lets be real here, CIG need to optimize the game. The game is really unoptimized and it requires a lot of work. Typically if you get a mid-range to high-range build you'll get 40-100 fps for Star Citizen, but you'll fly in every other AAA optimized game. Hope people keep this in mind. In addition, it doesn't matter what CPU you have if CIG have server problems.

[@mndeg]

i have 5800x3d and ill get 9800x3d if it drops to about 350

[@Sparkk0]

@@mndeg Sure and you need to budget for a new mobo too. Which means either you pay to get yours swapped out or you take the time to do it yourself.

[@Gregoses]

do you test in the same patch for every CPU?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep!

[@yawnbox]

can't wait for the 9950x3d, especially when streaming and recording in 4k, discord, at the same time. would be sweet to see testing with all that

[@rhadiem]

Yeah if both chiplets are faster and X3D'd that may be the new king.

[@blublublabla4545]

My 5950x/3080 will be my system for years to come. Thank you

[@The1Mischief]

Ayyy same CPU with a 3090. Once my 4k gaming dips below 60 fps with DLSS, I'll upgrade. Either that or something dies

[@BLACKPANTHERFIGHTER]

Same , 5950 X , with a 3090 kingpin. Still manage to get over 170 FPS in arena commander . At this point, it's the game Engine and CIG , that has to start doing something. But hey , the sales department is more important .😅

[@VillaoviGaming]

So would you say that 9800X3D would be currently best choice for upgrading PC if you have 3 year old computer? Or should I wait bit to see whether Intel has something it's sleeves? I have been running intel computer quite some time, because intel has worked so reliable so I have been a bit hesitant to change to AMD.

[@brockoala2994]

How about the 14900k on DDR5 6000+? I think it would do similar or better than 9800x3d, is that the case?

[@sascha9213]

Im planing on upgradig my 5700x and zotac 3080ti with 32 GB ram to a completely new system. Do you think it enough to get the current best thing (9800X3D and 4090 with 64 GB DDR5) or should i just wait and get the 5090 when it comes out?. Thank in advance for the advice.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

What resolution do you play at? The 3080 ti is still pretty powerful, so I'd probably get the other stuff first and see if you even need the new GPU!

[@sascha9213]

@@tenpoundfortytwo Im playing at 4k, but tbh even if Turn the Resolution to 1080p it makes no change.

[@daweitao2668]

@@sascha9213 That's because you are CPU bottlenecked. I'd do what Tenpound suggested, get the 9800x3d but try it with the 3080Ti (and DLSS) first and see how you feel about performance after that.

[@cyranobuckminster1970]

I just purchased a 7800x3d/4090 system in October. I gambled that the 9800x3d wouldn't be head-and-shoulders faster than the 7800 and I appear to have been correct. I won't be upgrading any time soon.

[@Sutex0sofar]

I'll upgrade when a working version of SC 1.0 happens, the 11800X3D :)

[@Wombatzone31]

I have an AM4 5800X mated with a Tuff 3070 and 64GB of ram. I average 55fps at 4k with it dipping to 38fps (still get 15fps to 23fps moments), I monitor everything in my system and have noticed what the cpu and gpu handle seems to be inconsistent in game. Some days I'll log in and gpu working at 80% - 90%, cpu at 35%... then other days gpu and cpu at 96% - 99%. I've been almost considering a 5950 just for the extra cores.

[@The_Noticer.]

Is that 5800X3D in your tests running 4450mhz consistently? Also, note that DLSS/FSR costs upwards of 10-15% cpu overhead. In this game, I'd definitely advise against using it...

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep I believe it's maintaining that clock speed! Yep good point about CPU overhead!

[@The_Noticer.]

@tenpoundfortytwo it needs curve optimizer for me to actually do it, thats why i ask.

[@FlatMoki]

what aboput the 9900x for streamers?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

It will perform about the same at the 9700x in SC. I'm no expert on streaming at all but I've found the 7800x3d to be fine to stream with as long as I'm using the GPU to do the encoding.

[@guillaume6525]

Great video ! I run on AM4 with 5800x3d. I just upgraded from a 3090 to a 4080 and it's already night and day for me as I play in 4K. I was wondering if I should pull the trigger and continue to upgrade my rig toward AM5 with a 7800x3d or 9800x3d. Tough call indeed. Granted I will get about 15 to 20 fps more in main cities, but the extra cost required for that upgrade doesn't seem to be worth it in the end. How long do we spend in main cities before flying somewhere easier on entity counts anyway ? I think they just need to optimize their game and as you shew on your last clip in Pyro the best gear can't do much vs a game in alpha state which is not yet optimized ! I will try to keep cool with Black Friday ! :D

[@TheArchpharaoh]

I'm still running the 3900X! Looking forward to the upgrade to 9800x3d

[@TheGlassSword]

I am abit on the fence I actually got my 7800x3d for $290, but delayed my Pc build for months due to various reasons now I’m wondering should I get the 9800x3d now and use the 7800x3d to another project

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Hmm interesting one, that's a good price for the 7800x3d. You might actually be able to sell it for more if you decide to get the 9800x3d!

[@TheGlassSword]

@ true the original plan back in June was get 7800x3d +new MoBo etc. then around March start ITX build move 7800x3d and replace Main PC with 9800x3d. But it’s so late so I’m just thinking now

[@XiXGoldeyXiX]

For me I dont think it's the right time to upgrade from my 3080 and 5800X3D. My system is okay-ish, and as you pointed out late in the video, a lot of the poor performance is on CIG's end with how they release unoptimized builds with heavy logging etc. My plan is to keep my current computer until the next generation of RTX cards, and then buy a brand new computer with the best hardware available which *should* be good enough to run both SC and Sq42. Hopefully that's not too naive!

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

I'm glad you're resisting! That system is still very decent! Waiting for SQ42 is a good idea!

[@LucidStrike]

Unless the 5700X3D fails to hit a locked 60 by 1.0, I'm sticking with it. CIG isn't even nearly done optimizing, and frame gen / AFMF breaks through CPU bottlenecks, nevermind that I'll be GPU limited at 4K. It's just too much bang-for-buck to upgrade from without more compelling reasons. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep that sounds like a good plan!

[@tristan4491]

I thought the only major difference between the 7800 and 9800 was the structure for heat?

[@Arclight-n1w]

The 9800X3D has provided the smoothest experience I've ever had in Star Citizen. PBO + 200 Max Clock -40 Curve Optimizer 48 GB DDR5 8400 2100 Infinity Fabric It's a shame that the 285K was a disappointment for gaming. A well overclocked 14900KS can still contend with the 9800X3D in some games, but at insane risk of degradation or just an overwhelmingly high power draw. Maybe if the rumours are true, they'll put the IMC on the compute tile with the 385K. The 285K has a 77ns roundtrip latency for the IMC, whereas Raptor Lake and Lunar Lake have a 55ns latency.

[@LucidStrike]

8:00 Tbf to AMD, the 9800X3D is WAY better than the 7800X3D at productivity tasks thanks to the new version of V-Cache. So in THAT sense, it's not quite like 14nm+++++, but I get your meaning.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yeah a very good point!

[@admiralsc1]

Here we go!

[@fefernan87]

on which motherboard where the 9800X3D tests made? Great content!

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

I want to say the Gamers Nexus ran into problems testing their 9800X3D on a 670 board. They switched to a 870 board and the problems went away and the performance tests they had done improved. I don't know what motherboard you tested with.

[@tresnugget]

X3D turbo mode on Aorus disables SMT and optimizes some RAM timings

[@impuls60]

In the future when the game is fully multithreaded the 9800x3d will increase its lead because of a way higher wattage budget. 72w vs 120w now, and oc 72 vs 150W overclocked.

[@jollygreen4662]

If Intel new CPU sells 200$ cheaper. Would it be worth getting?

[@SpaceDad42]

Need to test in cockpit where the MFDs push performance.

[@-TheGreatEscape]

Soo, i'm upgrading from an i7 7700k. Should i get the 7800x3d alone for $520 with taxes, or the 9700x in a bundle with 32g of Ram ( cl36 ) and a motherboard for $570 with taxes ?