Star Citizen: Idris VS Kraken - Capital class monsters

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[@lawofthewestgaming]

ADDENDUM: I didn’t include the “IDRIS K” in this comparison, but still it should have at least been mentioned at some point in the video. It's not a standalone version of the IDRIS, not like the M or the P, instead it’s the result of an upgrade kit that was offered during the last holiday sale only to IDRIS P owners. It increased its anti fighter capabilities by swapping out the four remote turrets for an automated point defense system, it replaces one of its gun turrets for an single anti ship missile turret, and included a size ten laser beam weapon that’s mounted where the rail cannon would normally go.

[@whowhowhowhowhowho8139]

how many merlins you could have inside adris 40? I don't think people knows truly what those small shots can do in groups of 3

[@AuzzieWithAGun]

thanks now i have to get both i cant decide lol

[@Outland9000]

To be honest, if your running a carrier and you need to fend off a boarding party something has gone very *_VERY_* wrong.

[@DragonLord247]

@@Thoreaux ​ actually with what theyve said hes right on an ATV they mentioned in the future you should be able to control the artificial gravity on your ships landing pads. So all it would take is for the kraken to move a bit and the boarders are just floating around.

[@UNSCPILOT]

And really, it could be a trap, you might "play dead" and let them get in close before unloading and shreading their boarding party

[@PH03NIX96]

@@Thoreaux Gonna take a lot more than a couple seconds to get 20 dudes off a Valkyrie. By then the Dual S8 Turret already killed everyone.

[@PH03NIX96]

@@Thoreaux Animation to get out of jump seat then filter 20 people through small doors and off the ramp. About 10-20 I'd say and with that bow gun tracking you'd be dead as soon as you touched down and became stationary. Far better idea to disable the gun first.

[@PH03NIX96]

@@Thoreaux Doesn't need to land? Let's say the turrets for some reason can't hit your drop ship because they're shit for some reason. Put the Kraken in a spin and thrust in any direction and your entire plan goes out the window. Then you're stuck with 20 guys in cold space needing evac.

[@errickjijon9618]

Over a year later and I still watch this from time to time. Love this video. So good

[@pandoranbias1622]

You know some mad lads are just gonna CRAM this thing full of Merlin's wherever they can find them and turn it into a heavy carrier.

[@GuyFromJupiter]

Haha, I've done that with an 890, or least as much as I can before they all despawn. I managed to fit 9 in the hangar if I remember correctly, and actually on the elevator where it could raise and lower properly. Then you could land probably 12 on top of the closed hanger and 4 or 5 in the cargo bay. I think at worst you could fit 24 Merlins into and onto the 890, so I can hardly imagine what an actual carrier would be able to handle.

[@themanhimself9286]

15:22 "If you pull the trigger on this, you are ruining someone's day, somewhere and sometime."

[@damon3488]

💀💀

[@weardcute]

Here I am trying to go to sleep and you drop this absolute bombshell

[@Cogzed]

Ditto.

[@lawofthewestgaming]

MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

[@Cogzed]

LAWoftheWEST Gaming 🤣

[@emotionalsuccess]

This guy's voice is actually paced! It isn't a constant stream of mind numbing facts and info that only the youngest and freshest minds can absorb. Thank you from a 40 something!

[@KoboldHeart]

Coming back to this video after finally acquiring a Kraken yesterday! I'm excited to watch the Kraken portion of this video again to oogle some more over it.

[@DayLateGamerWill]

I challenge your Kraken to a fight with my Idris!

[@thehuubster]

Please form a bomberwing of eclipses to live on your kraken... They would be able to take on any other ship lol.

[@MrGunBrothers]

same just turing this fleet week

[@cric3754]

I really hope we get away from the "hitpoint" damage model it would be really stupid to blow up a ship because you hit the janitors closet 8000 times...maybe a component HP system would work better.

[@martinchab1]

I think they already said that they are working on this, haven't looked up for a long time, but i remember something like this, they just need to finish the component work and all.

[@celchronicles]

Well from past experience such as War Thunder, component HP/physics simulation does not guarantee a better experience.... A lot of the time it's about the gaming experience rather than realism....

[@biohita]

Well, the janitor's closet probably has lots of chemicals stored 😂

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

Well, it is already there to an extent. The main issue is the fact that armor isn't active right now. Damage is way higher than what it will eventually be because there isn't any mitigation applied to it, plus the intention is that ships will suffer catastrophic failures instead of instantly exploding. These systems are present in the game already, but cannot possibly be activated until server side OCS is implemented because without it the tracking of all the data would be impossible to sustain.

[@constantinamundsen2487]

It will come to a version close to the end of 2020. The Core Tech Feture is called "Physicallized Ship Component Damage". Basically, you have to go through the shield, then the hull, and then you can damage any subsystems of the ship. also you are already able to interchange some systems to expand your ships capapbilities. this will be the core aspect of upgrading ships later on once the game comes to beta in 2021/2022.

[@mellowbear6817]

The thing is, the Idris M has its fighters as a complement to its missiles and heavy weapons, were as the Kraken operates as a light carrier, and therefore, its main weapon is the fighters it carries. Youre, technically, not comparing two ships in the same category. Nevertheless, great video.

[@minutemanstarlines7301]

I wonder how many merlins can fit on/in the kraken....that'd be one hell of a hornet's nest

[@UNSCPILOT]

Well, if an 890j can handle 14, I'd say it can hold a irresponsible amount of merlins

[@nikklaren]

I mean you can fit like 5 on the top flight deck of the 890j, that would be one hell of a sight to see. *shoots the kraken leading to 100+ merlins taking off and intercepting* "I think we just shook the hornet's nest sir"

[@kujiko88]

Release the BEEEEEEEES

[@joaquinandreu8530]

That would be the US Navy aproach. And it would work better than just 4 Buccaneers

[@tobedone4079]

I think your only limitation will be getting Crew and merlins...

[@thomasthepaladin103]

I love the clip with that dude just sipping on his coffee while a couple ships come that think they have the upper hand lol.

[@karsonkammerzell6955]

"DRAKE Interplanetary: You'll go down fighting because you have to." How hardcore dedicated to weight/space management must you be that the two constant features in your ships are no escape pods and more guns? Lol.

[@UNSCPILOT]

I do kinda love that aspect of them, that dedication to firepower, even if my only Drake ship is a Dragonfly Yellowjacket

[@joshadams5602]

Well given that it's "secretly" aimed at pirates, that's kind of understandable. No pirate is really going to want to be captured.

[@joaquinandreu8530]

@@joshadams5602 Jeep Carriers designation in WWII was CVE. Their crew said that it mean ""Combustible, Vulnerable, and Expendable"

[@sawbones0158]

It’s a tough call, I really like the idea of the kraken being a mobile base.

[@Grenadier-]

Yeah, I think a lot of orgs are going to look into getting one. It's a great mobile HQ, has decent cargo, capable of repair and rearming ships. If your looking for a fight, I would %100 go for the Idris. That railgun it mounts is a dedicated ship killer through and through. Though i think the kraken is going to be slightly more popular because it really needs it's fighters to do damage while the Idris had less but more powerful weapons. And it's hanger is big enough to fit some fighters or a shuttle or two. I am willing to bet the Polaris is probably going be the defacto ship for orgs though

[@XBullitt16X]

@@Grenadier- You said idris twice haha, think you meant the kraken when you said "the idris is gonna be slightly more popular but needs its fighters"

[@Grenadier-]

@@XBullitt16X you saw nothing

[@Huma270490]

Also, their hability to deploy numerous ships, with the two medium size ships on the deck ( that looked by the images more like 3 to me if you're imaginative) can infrese BY FAR the ofensive capabilities or exploration, etc. Imagine a Kraken with 3 retaliators and 6 ships too protect those bombers... That Idris would need really good shields and armor to hold that punch.

[@KHamurdik]

Now capital ships fights are implemented in game. Ship-to-ship docking is on the way. Ship-on-ship landing is already implemented with the Carrack. Unfortunately Kraken is not in the roadmap, but If CIG wanted they would be able to make this fight real this year.

[@lystic9392]

The Kraken takes wayyy too much commitment for me. But I can't say I'm not intrigued by the idea of standing inside that bridge watching ships come and go to make use of your platform. It's pretty fricking cool.

[@maxp.4987]

As someone who's been semi-following the development of the game, I love your comparison videos. So well written and informative.

[@bbusigful]

I hope someday someone will make movies with Star Citizen as a platform.

[@steampunkskunk3638]

Chris Roberts tried that with Wing Commander... It did not end well.

[@killerparticles5839]

@@steampunkskunk3638 that was over a decade ago. As you can clearly see, technology used in creating Star Citizen has improved alot and will continue to. I have no doubt in my mind it will be the only game to be almost indistinguishable from real life.

[@ZackSavage]

if FrankieOnPC ever rises from the dead

[@jugganaut33]

They did make the start to a Star citizen movie that looks semi decent. It was welcomed so much by the creator they hired him and killed the mini movie. I’m certain at 4K in later releases it will be possible to create great movies or series like RVB.

[@begobolehsjwjangan2359]

Go look for combined forces , its a great fanmade movie with starcitizen assets.

[@cypher1o1]

Man I just imagined a small strike team landing planet side from the idrises argo then calling in fire support to clear a area to land the idris and unloading the main ground force

[@BreandanOCiarrai]

Honestly, I want to combine the two- use the Idris as the primary core of a small fleet with a pair of Krakens as pocket carriers to deploy bombers, interceptors, and Cutlasses.

[@philfedorowick]

by the gods.. think of the operating costs.. my inner bean counter shudders at the thought

[@Lem0nsquid]

kraken seems more functional in that it can serve more roles at a higher efficiency/ease of use

[@avidian888]

The Idris might be the stronger ship in an initial attack but I’d much much rather have a Kraken for my org, due to the cost-effective nature of the Drake ships and their versatility. The Kraken also will perform very differently, depending on what ships it carries and how well trained their pilots are, so it makes it a fully skill-based carrier, while the Idris-M and its heavy shielding, armor and that huge rail gun at the front will get you a good result, no matter how good you are.

[@DayLateGamerWill]

I am here after the "2950 IAE Day 6 - Drake Interplanetary" to help justify my purchase of a Kraken lol

[@ketaminewomble2562]

How much did it cost?

[@SMhydra]

@@ketaminewomble2562 around $1600 for the kraken personally i snagged me an idris i prefer frigates

[@ketaminewomble2562]

@@SMhydra I’ve gone for the Perseus recently, I think it’s cheaper because it’s only a concept at the moment, it might end up being worth a grand when it’s finally made

[@SMhydra]

@@ketaminewomble2562 probably perseus also needs far less crew

[@silasstarr433]

I come back to this video regularly just to drool over the Kraken

[@kgiese17]

You really bring these concepts to life, thank you.

[@drewflatt]

I always enjoy seeing your videos come up on my feed! Thank you for them.

[@stephenadkins616]

I could see a Kraken as a temp base platform while a pioneer is deploying planetary infrastructure.

[@spiralviper8158]

The music at the end fits so well with these giant ships

[@joaquinandreu8530]

The Kraken is an equivalent of a WWII CVE or a Cold War Control Ship like the Principe de Asturias. It can be very well be a good escort ship for convoys, giving them the chance to scout in advance or it can make up hunter killer groups.

[@stormnet7836]

That cargo bay looks awesome to add in a couple of even more fighters... Double the figters, double the enemies wrecks floating arround.

[@raizan1]

Just stumbled upon your video and I gotta say your detail and explanations are the best I've come across , You have my sub , and I will be watching more of your videos thanks for making them

[@vescovinator]

If these 2 titans were to fight( and damn that would be awsome) I my theory for optimal uses of each are as follows: Idris loads 3 super Hornets because the Idris is a big game hunter and its point defense isn't the best. If the battle is in an open playing field the idris should close distance to where its S8 guns can engage reliably so it isn't just relying on the cannon. If not an open playing field then just get in there and brawl. Reason later comming in Kraken half. For the Kraken if it can mount a large ship on top then the retaliator bomber. 3-4 Hornets, and the rest are the small ships with big gun (forgot the name). How the kraken fights: in open. Launch fighters and boogie. It does not want to be in range of the rail cannon. (Calling the irdis weapon a rail gun is like calling a rocket launcher a bottle rocket). Let the fighters do the fighting basically how a modern day/ww2 carrier plays. In a closed terrain is similar. Try to not let the idris get a clear line of sight because it has the better guns and wants to get on top of you. This is imo feel free to post alt idea

[@blacksheepboyz]

Storytime and education all at the same time, thank you for this.

[@DarkMatter13377]

Tactically speaking, the major downside to the kraken is its vulnerability to ambush. 3 retaliators or eclipses with full size torpedoes ambushing from above would not only damage the landing pads but all ships docked there this reducing its response capability. The Idris has the advantage here of holding its ships internally, so even if it can hold fewer ships they are more protected. Just my 2 cents. Love both though!

[@Chris_KAy]

We should probably also consider radarsize, capitalships are probably the first noticing you at every time

[@aguspuig6615]

honestly i think its a mistake to make the shields of the kraken not cover the landing pads, balance aside, how cool would it be to walk arround the ship while a fleet battle goes on arround you, and you can see the shots bouncing from the shield on top of you

[@naemek9675]

The pads will be covered but only to a certain height. So let's say 5 meters. The cutlass black is 11.5 m in height so the krakens shields would only cover half of the cutlass.

[@waterfalls4540]

Agreed! Total BS! Skip this ship and go for something more like Galactica, which has internal hangar for fighters.

[@aguspuig6615]

@@naemek9675 see but it would only make things more complicated, you could put tanky ships on the kraken and use them as shields. I prefer the idea of the shield going quite high, so even if your ship is exposed as long as the shields hold youre fine, it would really add a sense of power level that would make grinding for the ship more fun, once you have it, a few pirate fighters cant touch you, even if youre exposed, thats the ultimate flex and the type of cool detail this game thrives on

[@DecemberSeraphim]

They could make every pad protected by its own shield. 2 size 1's for each the small pads and then 2 size 2's for each medium pads It'll be also ideal because small shields can regenerate faster !

[@DrakeHurley]

Yeah I agree, would be sick!

[@thatrebeltrooper7306]

the idris hits me with so many old wing commander vibes. I friggin love it.

[@RakasansLegacy]

Damn excellent video Law. Good to see you again, Stranger. Can't wait to fly the Kraken :)

[@NP907AK]

I love love loved this episode. Listened to it 3 times.

[@nerfedgod]

Good stuff. The Kraken and the Idris M are 2 of my favorite ships, I'm really happy to have them both available to play.

[@Archmage9885]

They're both awesome ships, but I can't decide which I like better. I think the Kraken looks better, and it can carry more ships, but it's dependent on those ships for utility like a med bay. The Idris carries fewer ships, but has a med bay and many other utility rooms built in.

[@nerfedgod]

@@Archmage9885 We have a couple of Krakens ready for launch. We also got other ships to support them, like a Apollo Triage for portable med bay. We're planning to fit one of the Krakens with Fighters and Bombers and the other with Salvagers and Miners. One makes money, the other protects. Now we just need 100 NPCs....

[@IntenseDarknessable]

All I can do is watch these amazing videos, keep 'em coming! One day I'll be able to afford the game and one of these ships

[@vicegaminguk]

Love your ship reviews dude. Thanks!

[@Haegemon]

The Kraken is clearly a made with a pirate base in mind.

[@fmartingorb]

Awesome video, I think the K package for the Idris is a nice upgrade. With it I think you will need to upgrade the power generators. But it gives it a nice edge vs The Kraken

[@tadecker82]

Every time I look at one of these, I see something that makes me think there's going to be a LOT of variants of the Kraken. For instance, it looks like the medium landing pad deck is just sitting on top of another 4 small landing pads. This makes me think that there may be Kraken variants that have the stock 4s/2m configuration, a 4s/4s configuration, and a 2m/2m configuration, at the very least. The 2m/2m option would be a boon for mining guilds using 4 Prospectors, being able to carry supplies for long trips, and having plenty of space for mined cargo.

[@martinschemmel84]

if npc crews are a thing in the future that is necessarily needed, it would be nice to actually have a crew management system where you can skill them up for different areas and buff the different stations that way, but I would hope that they are always supportive and not replacing a players spot. like I said.. buffing some stats like being able to faster fix some systems while without a player the repair process is possible, but rather slow.

[@Archer-1453]

I love the idea these two ships competing arouses. An aircraft carrier versus what is essentially a destroyer. One’s obviously more intended for direct warfare but I can see a Kraken beating an Idris, even an Idris M, with a fully staffed outfit. Having 6 escorting craft (more if you manage to finagle a merlin or two into it’s cargo hold) as well as all the manned hard points with a competent pilot is hard to beat, even with something as powerful as a MAC.

[@lunamaria1048]

You cover these amazingly.. You have a new subscriber

[@yerok2345]

I loved the video. Very professional. Thank you

[@RaidnAlexander]

Alright, when both ships are in, I'm looking for a Kraken crew to fight my M crew. Let's go :D

[@XeroCreator]

Oh hey, I saw you in game a while back, along with 'OMG SUCH A FAN' This is a great video!

[@GalaxyStranger01]

You just know someone is going to put an Idris underwater...

[@platiuscyndar9017]

On my way! But yeah, at least to some depth spaceships should be able to withstand underwater. Considering Shields that depth could potentially rise considerably.

[@Cooli167]

I would remind you that Airtight =/ Water tight. Space vehicles qnd submarines have Different structural integrity meant to combat different things. Space vehicles are designed to keep air in, while being able to withstand certain forces going out of atmosphere. Subs are meant to keep water out, while being able to withstand the force of thousands of pounds of water at certain depths That said combat spaceships might have a better chance than the our space shuttle.

[@drac08624]

I can imagine the ways my org could use a kraken that would fit our lore/ business model

[@Naviss]

One minor but kind of important thing is between the two ships when it comes to fighting, is the Idris has it's own life support system for the bridge.

[@nanosoldierthenetherlands5817]

this is a long time ago i seen sutch a calm video. i loved it thanks

[@MrStubbs8157]

As chris roberts said: A kraken would do certain missions better. I would guess it is more for civilian type of missions and when in a battle with military ships as you said, it needs to stay away...but only the 2 medium sized ships actually can be really dangerous in wounding an Idris as the rest of the small sized ships cann really penetrate shields or later on the armor. It is made to send out some ships with quick rearm, repair refuel mechanics and mainly for its capital ship gun....which is pn both ships the only real nasty weappn to face against as another capital ship like a javelin as well. A bengal is probably far too heavy armed to tackle. As CR said in an interview: A 1vs1 would end up nadty for a kraken for sure. It isnt meant for such heavy duty military grade approaches. You would probably be even waaaaay better off against multiple enemies with fast ships of medium to large size + fighters. They wont really endanger an idris but it would also have a harder time than when a kraken lauches an equal amount of ships. So: Kraken can really tackle other capital ships. Idris isnt that good of a multipupose base for your ventures...especially on a planet...the kraken sound much more fun in that regards to setup an adventire weekend with your org getting exploration and gathering done in multiple magnitudes. And it probably is cheaper to run as you deal with consumable of normal grade...while I dont want to know how much missiles or railgun shells cost per firing 1 round. ;)

[@helloitsjay38]

I wonder how many eclipse/retaliators the kraken can carry?

[@LeifPalmin]

Very nice, thanks for your work.

[@timborghinitube5457]

Dude… your videos are phenomenal. ‘Very pleased to have discovered your channel today!

[@lawofthewestgaming]

Glad you like them!

[@timborghinitube5457]

@@lawofthewestgaming I hope ya don't mind, but my game wouldn't load during the middle of my stream today, so I used a couple short sections of this video just to quickly showcase the greatness of this game. I hit some debris because I am a noob and the stream went straight downhill from there lol

[@lawofthewestgaming]

I don't mind. No worries.

[@meeturmaker636]

Really love your videos, hope you make more!

[@JoseMoreira-vo8cu]

Thanks again sir! Keep up the great work!

[@CrimPEClimbing6690]

thanks for the info. good video as always!!

[@patrikg.6320]

I love the Idris, I hope I can get on one as a crew member.

[@marksullivan964]

It would be interesting to see an addendum to this to include the Idris-K (P with upgrade kit)... Heck, even the M can use some of the upgrade kit to perhaps provide better small ship defenses?

[@Lexekon]

Useful guide, I am interested in learning how they will handle component upgrades on these ships, as will they be customized like the 300 series, or will it be in game only?

[@Agent-yc2ii]

Great video. Keep up the good work.

[@arash9518]

the idris especially with that ramp reminds me of Acclamator from starwars

[@SamLowry_DZ-015]

Good to have you back

[@sirsneakybeaky]

6 miners, 1 large escort, and 1 runner. Some hornets for backup Can have one group running selling runs. Drake in orbit And 6 miners making bank and depo at the kraken

[@sirsneakybeaky]

If youre really loaded as a group idris M as a escort, kraken for ultity and have them grouped

[@voorheesjason3161]

Your vids are incredibly informative. Brilliant channel my friend. Hope to bump into you, in the Verse 👊🏻🎃👊🏻

[@embermonarch5477]

So I've gotten interested in whether I can make something totally independent of any structures. Key requirements being fuel and resources for repair, then just utilities. Here's what I came up with: - Kraken as Mothership - Prospector (small) for Mining - Expanse (small) for Refining - Vulture (small) for Salvage (optional) - Cutlass Black (medium) for Cargo/Combat/Dropship - Freelancer MAX (medium) for Ground Operations - - Ursa Rover - - 2x ROC - - 2x Dragonfly Leaving the internal bays of the Kraken either as unable to function as standard hangars OR carrying 2 fighters for defense Plus 1-2 spare small pads for defensive fighters or other utilities

[@fromaggio7654]

Imagine doing smuggle runs while having a fleet of cargo ships and these guys escorting

[@strikerfett6624]

I love some parts of the Idris especially the brig but the kraken has four big ball point turrets

[@urmom5835]

i wonder if you could use a kraken as a mobile station for use in newly explored regions, having players transfer credits to land and fuel up (maybe even sell ores to you before you have to go back inland for a supply run)

[@Hairyloft]

Great vid, damn wish I had the Kraken

[@jonathanmcelveen9569]

Kraken is a little bit shorter and fills a very similar role to the LHD-1 USS Wasp, my old ship. :) So interested in getting one. . . Edit: Crew size is way smaller. As is the fighter craft compliment.

[@andredionne8522]

good video. Last year they sold the after market kit for the Idris P. Maybe in another video you can include this kit. I'm thinking that only when we will see it in game that we will really know more about this after market kit for the Idirs P

[@BlazinNSoul]

I wonder how many ships I'll have to trade in to get this lol. 🤔 Good review here once again. As I appreciate your detailed explanation here. Now the question is which one to go with. :b

[@panzr110]

Hell yeah. Awesome video.

[@GuyFromJupiter]

It does show a cutty sitting on top of the kraken, but there seems to be plenty of space there. I wonder if you'll be able to get a connie or corsair on top?

[@eramires]

Perhaps the Kraken would be a ship to stay behind other ships, a fleet of Krakens behind the first line of defense would be the way to go, launching and recharging/repairing fighters and bombers. Like a support line.

[@fanmccrafty9006]

I really hope you do one when the next big cap ship comes out to compare the 3 of them together. And other one between the Polaris, Hammerhead, and maybe the Odin if that ends up being a thing!

[@fanmccrafty9006]

And I also agree with others here. I really enjoy your thoroughness on the topic, the cadence of the video, and the general way you go about comparing various facets of the ships. Thanks for all the effort you put into these, every video I watch is enjoyable. It just makes me more excited the more videos I watch. And I've seen this one many times, good stuff man. Keep it up!

[@inigomontoya6968]

This makes me sometimes wonder if I should've melted my Polaris and upgrade to the Kraken. The extra utility of the the carrier is extremely appealing.

[@therealdontclickme]

Kraken is like a jack of all trades, but the Polaris is mostly just a one trick pony

[@SauloMogi]

Thanks for sharing this video bro. U r good! ❤

[@SpaceSpuddd]

Picture a org tasked with removing pirates from a planet. with 1 Idris and 1 Kraken rolling up. you now have the capacity to launch an offensive that can be sustained in space, in orbit and on ground. if done right you could have battles going for hours!

[@jorjkordaal]

Looking forward to seeing what the game’s bigger guns are going to be like. We’ve already seen the Hammerhead tearing apart some decent sized ships...and those guns are half as big as the Idris’ main battery, or the Javelin’s.

[@martinschemmel84]

the Idris should have a kind of pulling system by which all fighters can be auto ejected in an instance without colliding . I could imagine this to be done with a floor mounted pulling system like with aircraft carriers or simply by tractor beams if you want to keep it simple. possibly tractor beams would be a smart way of a hangar management system where an operator can even change the order of ships while landed and take over the parking of incoming ships

[@NetAndyCz]

I really wonder whether there will be situations where Idris will make profit running cargo... Especially the P variant can have decent cargo capacity and its ability to land on planet and rather good defence (compared to dedicated cargo ships) might make it quite good for some specific scenarios. Also it might be a surprisingly good smuggling ship for similar reasons.

[@harbinger8208]

Thanks for pinning the K info.

[@KalijahAnderson]

Just discovered your channel with this video. Awesome presentation. It was organized and put together very well. This video was particularly relevant to me since I own 4 idris (m, p, p + k) and a Kraken. I wonder how those 5 ships put together would hold up against my 2 Javelins. Anyway, have a sub and a like. I look forward to more from you.

[@Luredreier]

Wow...

[@naiitabolsen819]

maybe i can live on your javalin, my super hornet and me are the as powerful as 10 thousand suns

[@Luredreier]

@@naiitabolsen819 "Your Javaline"? He got 2 of them as *well* as 5 Idrises, jeez... Also, a thousand suns... You have no idea how powerful those are, do you? :-P

[@self1sch]

What a humble brag lmao

[@KalijahAnderson]

@@self1sch actually more of a suggestion for a future video from him. Though I can see how you would see it that way.

[@KenditTV]

woah.. owning a kraken looks so much fun ngl, imagine you landed on a friendly JT and make urself a repair/refuel station! Role playing is gna be so much fun that way !

[@damascus1111]

What if I just cover the Kraken with Ballista's? Fighter screener/ High Powered Glass canon?

[@danmoore4503]

If its possible to tow it up there safely why not. That is actually a realistic solution, I think the US and other countries have experimented with the idea of loading mobile missile platforms onto the deck of a ship. The only obstacle I can foresee to that is that they may not allow ground vehicles to be secured to the top. It will be interesting to find out.

[@Chris_KAy]

@@danmoore4503 it should work, considering that cargo is loaded directly on the landingpad wich "should" include transporting vehicles towards the ships on top, or rovers etc would be useless... im not sure about how long a ballista is, but maybe they will design the elevator exactly towards that kind of "balance", it would be kinda logic to lets say: ok everything that you can push into a cutless is okey and everything above is not. the issue i see, especially with hurricanes and ballistas is their lack of shieldpower and they mentioned a couple month ago that the shield of the kraken wont shield the ships on top, so you wont be motivated to let them stay there if you go to battle, i could also imagine the same sort of innactivated weaponsystem they do on port olisar etc.

[@GarlicAvenger]

Everyone: "How can i choose between them..?" Real galaxy Brain players: "If this game ever comes out of alpha into full release - I'm just gonna join/organise a big corporation/guild/clan and instead of choosing, we'll work our way up to having one of each as dual flagships of our fleet, with full compliments of fighters and medium ships, supported by Starfarers and maybe a transport corps with Hull C's and/or caterpillars... idk. One day we might get a Javelin or the Bengal - if it's ever available for purchase..."

[@asmkalrizion7078]

I’d like to know if the carrack’s “self sufficiency” means it can grow food or if you’ll need to fill the cargo hold with the supplies you’ll need

[@tlove21]

ASM Kalrizion grow food, good one

[@asmkalrizion7078]

tlove21 ?

[@NarrowDipShit]

Kinda want a largecapital stealth ship, something with the same role as Normandy from Mass Effect

[@pdbsstudios7137]

i expect to see some festival / big party like motorstorn arctic siedge, lots of cars, dune bugys, rovers Lamborghinis

[@tuckerodonnell9269]

The kraken and 2 cats is still a good idea for long range exploration

[@Calitanah]

Very, very nice. I love that video !!!

[@dashelwest5739]

I love Drake ships

[@nikklaren]

same, they have a very firefly like aesthetic that I just keep gravitating towards and I will most likely be a drake flyer

[@dashelwest5739]

@@nikklaren Yes! I love the utilitarian approach!

[@legonick357]

I think combat at the scale that will include capital ships will be occurring all around planetary systems and include multiple POIs. In this regard, I think the two carriers will turn out quite equal in performance where the Kraken is more suited to supporting a fleet in indirect combat by serving as a mobile deployment center, repairing ships and providing fire support wherever necessary; while the Idris is more favorable in direct fleet engagements with superior anti-capital firepower but not as well-suited to supporting the other vessels in the fleet with the choked flight deck and smaller carrying capacity. Also, I think the Kraken will end up with cheaper operating costs and higher potential to earn income outside of combat (even the base variant, not even considering the new Privateer). This will help offset any losses to the org during confrontation, and be more friendly to smaller groups who can't field a full capital lineup for every fight. This game won't be Eve Online, hot-dropping a capital ship force will be rarer and much more difficult due to crew requirements, fuel considerations, and subcap support necessary to keep everything running.

[@Patrick73787]

So are we going to see the Kraken in game before the Idris and Javelin as UEE ships are locked until Squadron 42 release???

[@faaborgs]

I'm so looking forward to seeing the Kraken in-game. The Privateer seems to offer just what I want from Star Citizen. I have a question. The image you show a 1:35 "KRAKEN The making of a Monster", did you make that or should it be available somewhere? I have not been able to find it, and I would love it on a poster.